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Camacho Barrel Aged
OLeary65 Offline
#1 Posted:
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Does anyone have any comments on which cigar they prefer, American barrel-aged or Nicaraguan barrel-aged?
izonfire Offline
#2 Posted:
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OLeary65 wrote:
Does anyone have any comments on which cigar they prefer, American barrel-aged or Nicaraguan barrel-aged?


Perdomo Barrel Aged Maduros are spectacular.
Not Camacho, but definitely worth a try.
One of my favorites
clintCigar Offline
#3 Posted:
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I've got all of these shipping out tomorrow. Lookin forward to them.
izonfire Offline
#4 Posted:
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Oh, yeah, and thanks a ton for burning down the whole F'n city of Chicago way back when.
What the fucque were you thinking? You knew what that cow was capable of! Yet, you did nothing. NOTHING.

Just sat back and waited for the inevitable. You shoulda killed that cow the day you got it. You know that, don't you?
You know how much heartache, pain and destruction you caused? Do you even give a fucque???

Hope you're proud of yourself!!!
You can take that fine barrel-aged stick and shove it up your azz!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cursing
OLeary65 Offline
#5 Posted:
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Geez, I'm sorry.
OLeary65 Offline
#6 Posted:
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Thanks. I'll look for it.
izonfire Offline
#7 Posted:
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OLeary65 wrote:
Geez, I'm sorry.


Oh, That's OK OLeary.

Lost a portion of my family in that fire, so I'm a bit touchy.
But as long as you're sorry, I'll let it go.

Enjoy your smokes!

Herfing
Pudding Mittens Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 08-15-2016
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izonfire wrote:
Oh, yeah, and thanks a ton for burning down the whole F'n city of Chicago way back when.
What the fucque were you thinking? You knew what that cow was capable of! Yet, you did nothing. NOTHING.

Just sat back and waited for the inevitable. You shoulda killed that cow the day you got it.

Hey, that cow may have been a relative of mine! You never know!
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gummy jones Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 07-06-2015
Posts: 7,969
ive had about 7-10 american barrel aged. they are one of my buddy's favorite cigars.

definitely wasnt bad but not something i decided to track down.
midmofan Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 04-25-2014
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The Camacho AMERICAN Barrel Aged is a great cigar. IMO the best current Camacho out there. It is rich, dark, and complex with great tobacco and different evolving flavors throughout. Changes constantly during the burn and burns great. Now, at no point smoking it do I ever think: "That tastes like bourbon." It doesn't, but the aging sure imparts an amazing flavor.

One of the best things is that - unlike a number of other Camacho offerings - this one has (so far) remained as good as the OR. I have noticed no drop-off in quality or flavor. Hope this stays the same.

The Nicaraguan ones, not so much. They are good, but milder, not as flavorful or interesting.

I have not had the Perdamo barrel aged, but plan to soon.
izonfire Offline
#11 Posted:
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
Hey, that cow may have been a relative of mine! You never know!
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Shhhhhhhh!!!

Tryin to get OLeary to take the rap on the whole thing.
Then we can finally clear your family name.
No more hiding or threat of the slaughterhouse.

Nothing but endless green pastures, cud sammiches and candela smokes for you from here on out! Drool
jespear Offline
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OLeary65 wrote:
Geez, I'm sorry.


I went to Hospital Corps School in San Diego with a David O'Leary, back in 1971.
He said it was his grandmother's cow that started the fire . . . Think but then gain, I suppose EVERY O'Leary claims that.
delta1 Offline
#13 Posted:
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I've had both of the Camacho Barrel Aged cigars, and thought the American was better than the Nicaraguan...both good cigars...that said, I didn't think either was so good that I bought more than the first fiver of each...there are other $5-6 cigars I like better...
midmofan Offline
#14 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
I've had both of the Camacho Barrel Aged cigars, and thought the American was better than the Nicaraguan...both good cigars...that said, I didn't think either was so good that I bought more than the first fiver of each...there are other $5-6 cigars I like better...


You can get them for cheaper than that if patient around here or at other sites as well.

Also just ordered several Perdamo bourbon barrel aged singles of different styles from a certain PAGE, to see how they compare. Got those for $3.74/$3.87 each free shipping. Not bad I don't think when buying singles.
delta1 Offline
#15 Posted:
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yah...$5-6/fiver is kinda the regular auction price for a fiver at the other auctioneer place...
delta1 Offline
#16 Posted:
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whoa...just took a look around...something has driven the price up for all sizes of both the American and Nicaraguan Camacho Barrel Aged cigars...
lance4824 Offline
#17 Posted:
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I like the American but I have not had the Nicaraguan. It is a different flavor but full of flavor. And there's some on Monster this morning
midmofan Offline
#18 Posted:
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Robusto size (my favorite for this cigar) 10 for $45 including shipping at the Tenskie place.
midmofan Offline
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Just had one of the Perdamo Bourbon Barrel Sun Growns picked up from the Tenskie place. It was a very good smoke. Not as strong or as intense as the Camacho, but far more complex and flavorful than any other Perdamo I have had. Lots of lovely great smelling smoke, perfect burn, great draw burned a good long time. Nutty, a bit of spice at times, some natural sweetness, coffee and cocoa pop up in the 2nd half. Unlike the Camacho, there are times where I could definitely pick-up the bourbon-ish flavors, although it was often more like a port wine than strong bourbon. At under $3.90 a cigar as a single with shipping, it was well worth it and I recommend people check it out.

That being said, if had to choose only one, I still prefer the Camacho American overall. It is stronger, darker, denser with more powerful complex flavors (interestingly though, with the Camacho American, at no point do I ever think: "There's the bourbon flavor!"). However, if I was wanting a lighter smoke, or something I did not want overpowering my food or beverage, than the Perdamo would be the choice.
USNGunner Offline
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midmofan wrote:
Just had one of the Perdamo Bourbon Barrel Sun Growns picked up from the Tenskie place. It was a very good smoke. Not as strong or as intense as the Camacho, but far more complex and flavorful than any other Perdamo I have had. Lots of lovely great smelling smoke, perfect burn, great draw burned a good long time. Nutty, a bit of spice at times, some natural sweetness, coffee and cocoa pop up in the 2nd half. Unlike the Camacho, there are times where I could recognize true bourbon-ish flavors, although it was often more like a port wine than strong bourbon. At under $3.90 a cigar as a single with shipping, it was well worth it and I recommend people check it out.

That being said, if had to choose only one, I still prefer the Camacho American overall. It is stronger, darker, denser with more powerful complex flavors (interestingly though, with the Camacho American, at no point do I ever think: "There's the bourbon flavor!"). However, if I was wanting a lighter smoke, or something I did not want overpowering my food or beverage, than the Perdamo would be the choice.


Thanks for sharing midmofan! And for the leads. Applause
pacman357 Offline
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#19 Dammit. Now I have to...nope, must resist. BTW, the Perdomo ESV 91 maduro and the red cello maduro Reserve used to be some of my favorite cigars. Not sure if I have any left, but man, those were good. IIRC, when I met Nick at his business in the Miami Lake (Lakes?) area several years ago, the Lot 23 maddies were just coming out, and Nick was pretty excited about getting what sounded like his first sizeable shipment of bourbon barrels in for aging wrapper. Sounds like he's put them to good use. Had one of his personal blend smokes in his office with a Cuban coffee. OMG, I begged him to sell me some of his private blend (a maduro, which is what he tends to do best). Hands-down one of the best 10 cigars I've ever smoked, and I've smoked a bunch of them. Thick smoke, chocolatey, rich as can be. If someone could persuade him to make those in sales volumes, I'd be all over them. I'd easily have scored that cigar a 97 out of 100.
Pudding Mittens Offline
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pacman357 wrote:
Had one of his personal blend smokes in his office with a Cuban coffee. OMG, I begged him to sell me some of his private blend (a maduro, which is what he tends to do best). Hands-down one of the best 10 cigars I've ever smoked, and I've smoked a bunch of them. Thick smoke, chocolatey, rich as can be. If someone could persuade him to make those in sales volumes, I'd be all over them. I'd easily have scored that cigar a 97 out of 100.

You may want to try his "Factory Tour" cigars in the maduro-wrapped version. I bought a box of them about a year ago, but haven't gotten around to trying one yet, however I hear they're fantastic. They were only made for people taking the tour, then he decided to sell them (in limited quantities) on the open market.
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izonfire Offline
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pacman357 wrote:
#19 Dammit. Now I have to...nope, must resist. BTW, the Perdomo ESV 91 maduro and the red cello maduro Reserve used to be some of my favorite cigars. Not sure if I have any left, but man, those were good. IIRC, when I met Nick at his business in the Miami Lake (Lakes?) area several years ago, the Lot 23 maddies were just coming out, and Nick was pretty excited about getting what sounded like his first sizeable shipment of bourbon barrels in for aging wrapper. Sounds like he's put them to good use. Had one of his personal blend smokes in his office with a Cuban coffee. OMG, I begged him to sell me some of his private blend (a maduro, which is what he tends to do best). Hands-down one of the best 10 cigars I've ever smoked, and I've smoked a bunch of them. Thick smoke, chocolatey, rich as can be. If someone could persuade him to make those in sales volumes, I'd be all over them. I'd easily have scored that cigar a 97 out of 100.


Damn!!!

To a maduro junkie like me, sounds like a dream smoke...
pacman357 Offline
#24 Posted:
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#22 Might be worth a shot. However, these were Nick's private stash. I got a tour of the place and didn't see another sign of it. Even got one of the earliest boxes of the Lot 23 maduro. Nick was having the boxes re-done because the originals were too dark (the box, not the cigar), and I had to ask to purchase that, as they weren't in the humidor out front. Whether that's the same thing he gave out at factories, I couldn't say. The smoke I had in Nick's office had a very dark wrapper on it, although they were clearly Nicaraguan puros. It's always hard to tell from pics, but the pic I'm seeing here, the factory smoke wrapper looks about two shades lighter. IIRC, he had one fairly large humidor or box, the smokes only came in a torpedo about 6x52 or so, maybe 6x54. I've never been one for coffee with cigars, but the Cuban coffee was amazing with the smoke. I got the feeling that Nick got asked to sell some many times before, and he just wasn't budging (not a complaint, I wouldn't dis a man who gave me one of the best cigars I've ever smoked). I think that *maybe* if one of his kids needed a kidney and I had the only match, I *might* have been able to get one then. My wife, who doesn't smoke and was sitting with us, even commented on how good it smells. That's rare.

#23 If you're a maduro junkie, a kidney might just be worth the price. I don't even know if he still makes them, as tastes change and this was 2003 or 2007 (the latter, I believe). I'll try to pick up a factory smoke some day to compare, but when I got to smoke one from his own stash, I got the impression the yield for the blend was extremely limited and they were only shared by Nick in person. One wrapper, one vitola, and only one box in sight. Plus, if he still likes them the way he did back then, I doubt he'd cough them up without having (a) a bigger yield, as they are for sale at many places, and (b) a bigger price tag. Look at the price of the Edicion del Silvio. That is the most expensive regular production smoke I ever saw from Nick and they are good, but cost almost twice what the factory smoke runs. Perhaps if you were to give him a holler and drop in on him...worked for me. Not worth another 6000 mile round trip (we were on our way down to Key West), but worth the drive up from Little Havana if you're kicking around there.
midmofan Offline
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Well, fired up the Perdamo Bourbon Barrel Maduro last night. Very powerful Maduro flavor right from the start. Salty Dark Chocolate, heavy tobacco, a bit smoky (I assume from the Barrel Aging). Burned perfect and straight and great draw.

Unlike its Sun-Grown cousin, however, it never changed or evolved in any way. How it was on the first puff was exactly how it was about an hour later. It had very good Maduro profile right at the start for sure, but I did start to get tired of it by the end. This was the 6 x 54 size and, for me, that was just too much of the same thing. If they made this in a smaller size, something a lot shorter or even petite-corona, then this would be a great smoke. As it is however, I much preferred the Sun-Grown version. With the Sun-grown (and the Camacho American) the cigar is constantly changing, giving you different versions on its theme throughout.

So my verdict on the Bourbon Barrel smokes

#1 Camacho if you like a stronger, yet still complex, cigar that is very good, but where you never really "taste" the bourbon
#2 The Perdamo Sun-Grown. Great also complex and interesting cigar but lighter and milder. With this one you CAN taste what must have come from the Booze Barrel.
#3 The Perdamo Maduro. Very good but a one-note wonder
#4 The Nicaraguan (Rum Barrel) from Camacho. Just not a lot there.
USNGunner Offline
#26 Posted:
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midmofan wrote:
Well, fired up the Perdamo Bourbon Barrel Maduro last night. Very powerful Maduro flavor right from the start. Salty Dark Chocolate, heavy tobacco, a bit smoky (I assume from the Barrel Aging). Burned perfect and straight and great draw.

Unlike its Sun-Grown cousin, however, it never changed or evolved in any way. How it was on the first puff was exactly how it was about an hour later. It had very good Maduro profile right at the start for sure, but I did start to get tired of it by the end. This was the 6 x 54 size and, for me, that was just too much of the same thing. If they made this in a smaller size, something a lot shorter or even petite-corona, then this would be a great smoke. As it is however, I much preferred the Sun-Grown version. With the Sun-grown (and the Camacho American) the cigar is constantly changing, giving you different versions on its theme throughout.

So my verdict on the Bourbon Barrel smokes

#1 Camacho if you like a stronger, yet still complex, cigar that is very good, but where you never really "taste" the bourbon
#2 The Perdamo Sun-Grown. Great also complex and interesting cigar but lighter and milder. With this one you CAN taste what must have come from the Booze Barrel.
#3 The Perdamo Maduro. Very good but a one-note wonder
#4 The Nicaraguan (Rum Barrel) from Camacho. Just not a lot there.


Thanks for sharing that. Great help. Applause
pacman357 Offline
#27 Posted:
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#25 Polite golf clap. Nice review. I have a fiver inbound of churches on the maduro Perdomo, but it sounds like it isn't the same as Nick's stash. That cigar just floored me, from start to finish. BTW, if someone is looking for a good, strong maddie, the Camacho triple mad used to be pretty damned good. Haven't bought one in a long time, but if they are consistent, that was always a reliable maduro with a good punch to it.

A also used to favor the LA Barrel Aged. It seems like it has a niche audience now. You can still buy them on retail, but they don't seem to be actively being marketed much of anywhere. Smoked my first one sitting outside the Philly airport on the way back from my first Cfest. Even at the end of a weekend where I'd smoked tons of cigars, the LABA really hit the spot for me. Medium body, sweet but not sugary. Damned good smoke, and you can probably pick some up on the cheap if you keep an eye out. I actually broke down and bought some of the LA barrel aged copper preferidos when they came out, but the entire box of 10 is napping until I get a bit healthier and can enjoy them. They are NOT cheap, but if you can find one, might be worth a try.

LGT to LABA singles. Good way to pick some up on the cheap to try (although I prefer the belicoso, which got a 92 rating and #14 on the 2008 CA Top 25). https://www.cigarbid.com...el-aged-robusto/3246548/
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