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MACS Offline
#1 Posted:
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I've been fighting this tooth and nail since they came out. I love to read books. Real books with pages to turn.

With that said, many times I have to wait for the damn things to come out in mass-market paperback because I don't want the hard covers. In fact, since I almost never read a book twice, I usually buy new and donate them. I suppose buying a "book" on the kindle is much cheaper than going to the store or ordering it off amazon and waiting for it... and nothing to dispose of.

What say you folks who have one... should I just get one? Is it worth it, at $109?

RAM? 8Track, if I recall... you have one. Do they last? Pros and cons?

Help yo brutha!
delta1 Offline
#2 Posted:
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I've borrowed Diane's Kindle when she had a book she thought I'd like...average cost of books is a few dollars less than paperbacks...

I prefer reading an actual book...holding the tablet makes my wrists sore, especially the left one which had surgery to fuse a couple of broken bones...hard to read outdoors during the day...more eyestrain from the glare and lighted display vs no glare from paper...

I don't read much anymore, due to floaters in my good eye that sit right at my reading focal point...but I prefer real books.
Sunoverbeach Offline
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I've had one for a few years. Currently the Paperwhite model. Pros are lightweight, smaller real estate demand compared to physical books, and with an unlimited subscription ($10/mth), a lot of free titles to choose from. Also good battery life. I can get a couple weeks of reading (2-4hrs/day) before battery runs down.

Only con for me really is, as you mentioned, lack of physical page turning, smell, etc associated with books.

All in all, I'd say it's worth it. And that's coming from someone who's a big fan of print. Several volumes on the shelves (value more sentimental than financial) and a few thousand comics as well.
CelticBomber Offline
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I tried to use one but I just prefer a real book. There's something about a reader that seem's.... sterile? Not to mention the extra strain on your eyes if the screen is bright. Would make my life 100 times easier since i read a lot! I have tons and tons of books because once I read it... it's MINE! I also reread everything. When I moved the worst part was the boxes and boxes and boxes of books. My Garage is floor to ceiling boxes of books..A Kindle would really help out but I just can't do it.
MACS Offline
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^^Apparently the Kindle Paperwhite is just like reading off of paper.
RMAN4443 Offline
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I borrowed my SIL's because she insisted I try it out before I signed off on it....I hated it, no page turning, small ,bright, no new book smell, no actual book to hold....just didn't like it....besides, I also enjoy my trip to the library every week or two.
MACS Offline
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I've been texting my niece and nephew. They both have one and like it. Josh says I can hold 2000-3000 books with the 8GB model, the leather case makes it like you're holding a book... and it turns the unit off or on when you open or close it. Nicole said the paperwhite model is exactly like reading off paper, and doesn't bother the eyes... can be turned up or down in brightness, too.

Add in the adapter and I'm out the door for $240 (because I don't want the bundle with the damn ads, and I want the brown rustic leather case which is, of course, $20 more than the damn black, red, or other colors).
dstieger Offline
#8 Posted:
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I got used to it pretty quickly. I particularly like that I can check out most any book electronically from the Library for two weeks
MACS Offline
#9 Posted:
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Paperbacks are $10+. E-books are $4 or less and I ain't gotta wait for the damn paperback version or delivery.

Seems like I am almost convinced to do it.

Edit: holy crap the kindle edition of the book I am wanting right now (which doesn't come out in paperback until September) is $17!! What in the actual fk?
Ram27 Offline
#10 Posted:
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Sorry MAC'S can't help you out. Amazon maybe running July sale?

Good luck.......🙄
Cereal City Cigar Smoker Offline
#11 Posted:
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I have an Amazon Kindle app on my Nexus. Have a dozen books on it which I have yet to read.Not talking

If you have an iPad you might try the app first. Think

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MACS Offline
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I do have an iPad around here somewhere... gathering dust.
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I don't read much, at least not for pleasure. Always reading journals and stuff for work, and reference books for fixin stuff.

But the wife reads a lot. She had the original kindle up until a year or two ago I got her a new paperwhite and she's used it a lot. Never any issues with either except the OR that got left out in the rain while camping.
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MACS wrote:
Paperbacks are $10+. E-books are $4 or less and I ain't gotta wait for the damn paperback version or delivery.

Seems like I am almost convinced to do it.

Edit: holy crap the kindle edition of the book I am wanting right now (which doesn't come out in paperback until September) is $17!! What in the actual fk?


Library.

At least our county library let's you download kindle books for free. Pretty good selection of current books. Not so much for older stuff that wasn't originally published in ebook form.
dkeage Offline
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danmdevries wrote:
Library.

At least our county library let's you download kindle books for free. Pretty good selection of current books. Not so much for older stuff that wasn't originally published in ebook form.



So much this. A library card is free...
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RMAN4443 wrote:
I borrowed my SIL's because she insisted I try it out before I signed off on it....I hated it, no page turning, small ,bright, no new book smell, no actual book to hold....just didn't like it



Agree 100%, pages are weird and if you're like me and only like to stop after a chapter it is a pain to figure out how far you have. Also used it for text books and was even worse experience. I will never buy one again, prefer the real deal by miles.
MACS Offline
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I do have an iPad. I suppose it would be wise to try the app first to see if I like it. It appears to be free to download...

Of course I have an old iPad and whataya know... not compatible with it. My phone is too damn small for my old ass eyes.
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Kindle app is free for your phone or iPad; I’d give it a try there before taking the plunge. If reading from the screen bothers your eyes, the paperwhite May be the way to go, but if it’s no biggie and just a price & convenience issue, I’d stick to the iPad.

I’m a book-in-hand gal to my dying breath, BUT...I find myself using the kindle app a LOT more than I originally anticipated. Started out with my favorite study Bible on my phone, looking things up during the sermon on Sunday morning. Then I found a few free books that looked like interesting quick reads and downloaded them on the fly, and I t was even more convenient when I was able to pick up where I left off on the bigger screen of the iPad. Lately, I’ve been enjoying the *usually* much lower prices for kindle versions, and the instant gratification factor of the electronic version; a coworker recommended a book to me, and I downloaded it on the spot and was able to start reading it that day.

Travel convenience is a tossup, for me. I can carry several thousand books in one, thin device, and I always have my phone with me so I can read there, but the electronics aren’t so great in bright sun or near water. The paperwhite screen may do a lot better in the sun, but I still feel safer leaving a paperback lying on my beach chair while I go splash in the pool than I do an expensive electronic device. For a book I’m REALLY into, I find myself downloading it to my kindle app, then picking up a supplemental hard copy somewhere along the line.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
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I have 3 kindles. I like them.

A 2nd gen 9.7"
Original Fire HD
HD 10.

The old 9.7" with e-ink display is the easiest to read by far. The new paperwhite screens are just as easy to read maybe even easier. Yes, it really looks probably as close to paper as you can get with a digital screen.

The og fire is great for its size, very convenient. Color screen isn't the easiest to read in bright light (reflects) but for things like webpages and cookbooks with photos, it' works well.

I use the HD10 mainly for watching movies out in the yard with a cigar.

All of mine are the add-free models. Costs a bit more up front, but I think it's worth it.
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I fought it for years. I have probably 1000+ paperback books waiting to be read. My dad kept saying I needed a Kindle, but I didn't go for it. Well, he bought me one & I will never go back to paper. I love it. I'm a truck driver & I often read before bedtime, but the light inside the truck is pretty dim. The Kindle provides its own light source. ++++ :-). Robert
frankj1 Offline
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can't...make...myself...be...mean...
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#22 Posted:
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Frank, he said kindle, not knish...
frankj1 Offline
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have you been lurking?

8trackdisco Offline
#24 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I've been fighting this tooth and nail since they came out. I love to read books. Real books with pages to turn.

With that said, many times I have to wait for the damn things to come out in mass-market paperback because I don't want the hard covers. In fact, since I almost never read a book twice, I usually buy new and donate them. I suppose buying a "book" on the kindle is much cheaper than going to the store or ordering it off amazon and waiting for it... and nothing to dispose of.

What say you folks who have one... should I just get one? Is it worth it, at $109?

RAM? 8Track, if I recall... you have one. Do they last? Pros and cons?

Help yo brutha!


Good luck. Had one crap out after about 5 years. Bought another entry level model about 5 years ago, and I should have upgraded to the Paperwhite version. Those (from the reviews) have easier readability, better lighting and glare screens. They download qucik and the battery life can go a couple weeks. All your books in one place.

I'd like to buy an upgraded on, but other more compelling things begging for my bankroll.

Pull the trigger.
8trackdisco Offline
#25 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I've been texting my niece and nephew. They both have one and like it. Josh says I can hold 2000-3000 books with the 8GB model, the leather case makes it like you're holding a book... and it turns the unit off or on when you open or close it. Nicole said the paperwhite model is exactly like reading off paper, and doesn't bother the eyes... can be turned up or down in brightness, too.

Add in the adapter and I'm out the door for $240 (because I don't want the bundle with the damn ads, and I want the brown rustic leather case which is, of course, $20 more than the damn black, red, or other colors).


The adds (at least for the model I read) just pup up after you stop reading it for a bit. They aren't pop up adds which happen while you are reading. Little to no effect on the reading experience.
MACS Offline
#26 Posted:
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My brothers have spoken...

Got the paperwhite model, no ads, the charging adapter, and the brown leather cover. It arrives Monday.

Damn technology and stuff...
8trackdisco Offline
#27 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I do have an iPad around here somewhere... gathering dust.


I don't enjoy reading off of the Ipad. There is a Kindle app. Not sure why- I just don't.

I have turned into a book collector, in the sense I've got 40 books downloaded which I haven't started. Only so many hours in a day. Cut the Netflix cord for the summer. More chances to get outside and read in the hammock.
8trackdisco Offline
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dkeage wrote:
So much this. A library card is free...


In GB only the homeless people go to the library, because it is always filled with homeless people.

No homeless in my Kindle.
8trackdisco Offline
#29 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
My brothers have spoken...

Got the paperwhite model, no ads, the charging adapter, and the brown leather cover. It arrives Monday.

Damn technology and stuff...



Applause

Nice splash!
Whistlebritches Offline
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TCEQ,Texas Commision on Environmental Quality,has recently released several manuals thru Kindle available on IOS.I've been steadily upgrading my licenses for about 3 years and these manuals are handy during the testing phase and invaluable during the board phase,which I am in now.That being said the manuals run $125 to 375,after trying one on the app,$17,i've bought two more in paperback,right at $300 combined.The manual itself is so much more handy when I'm in the plant with time to prep for the next board.I'll stick with paperback
Gene363 Offline
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Been using the Kindle app on my iPhone for a couple of years, love it. Even my old azz eyes can read it just fine and the phone is always there when I have to wait or have a spare minute to read. The Kindles looks nice, but I just didn't want to manage another device.

I too like paper books. You can get used/almost new copies easy on Amazon and eBay. I'll read them then gift them to friends and family. You can also share your Kindle books.

I've also done years of tech support for my wife, a truly voracious reader. She started reading books on Palm Pilots then iPods, now her iPad, using various reader apps, file formats and Mother F'ing copy protection schemes. We have a crap ton of purchased book files now unless garbage when the device/app/company failed. The Amazion Kindle system is about as stable as you're going to find. My wife has the $10 per month unlimited plan and it is saving me a lot of money as well as avoiding headaches with reader/file changes.
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I just use the Kindle app on my phone... Works reasonably well... That way I don't need a second device.

I prefer a real book, but have gotten to where I'll only buy a real book if it's a hardcover I want to keep... Otherwise they pile up
CelticBomber Offline
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I had no idea you could connect to your local library and checkout books...... I wonder how good it would be though... I read a lot of the Classics. No idea if they've been converted to E Books. Going to have to take this Paperwhite a bit more serious I think.... if it works out I could donate a TON of books. Or maybe setup a table at a flea market and get enough to maybe get a decent box of CC's! Now I'm really intrigued!
8trackdisco Offline
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I do most of my reading on the 500 threads.
JadeRose Offline
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I tried readin once. Didn't care for it
Sunoverbeach Offline
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Haven't looked in recent years, but when I first got it you could download a ton of classics at no cost, i.e. Stoker, Dickens, Poe, Doyle, etc.
tailgater Offline
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Kindle paperwhite (or whatever it's called).
Had it for several years, right after they came out.

Pros:
Adjustable font size. No need to worry about glasses, etc.
Read at night without a light. It's back lit and adjustable.
Read at the beach with no glare like most tablets.
Carry many books in a small device.
Library users can download over the internet. No visits to the library and no worries about returns.
Instant delivery. Buy a book online and you have it immediately.

Cons:
Easy to forget what you're reading. When you have a real book, you see title and author everytime you pick it up. On the Kindle the page opens to where you left off.


I still like the "feel" of a real book, but it's easy to get used to. I have a cover for it, and that makes it easier to hold and read (plus it protects the screen).



Gene363 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
Kindle paperwhite (or whatever it's called).
Had it for several years, right after they came out.

Pros:
Adjustable font size. No need to worry about glasses, etc.
Read at night without a light. It's back lit and adjustable.
Read at the beach with no glare like most tablets.
Carry many books in a small device.
Library users can download over the internet. No visits to the library and no worries about returns.
Instant delivery. Buy a book online and you have it immediately.

Cons:
Easy to forget what you're reading. When you have a real book, you see title and author everytime you pick it up. On the Kindle the page opens to where you left off.


I still like the "feel" of a real book, but it's easy to get used to. I have a cover for it, and that makes it easier to hold and read (plus it protects the screen).





Good points, especially the cons. If you read books with illustrations, in particular maps, it is difficult to refer back to them while reading. I read a lot of books about WWII so maps are really handy references. With a phone or tablet you can have a map up while reading.
victor809 Offline
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Celtic, getting Kindle books from the library works really well.
You have to load another app to go through the checkout process (app varies by library). If it's a popular book you may have to place a hold (just like real books they only have x number of "copies") and then when you get it, you only have a month or whatever to read it....

Works well and is free
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victor809 wrote:
Celtic, getting Kindle books from the library works really well.
You have to load another app to go through the checkout process (app varies by library). If it's a popular book you may have to place a hold (just like real books they only have x number of "copies") and then when you get it, you only have a month or whatever to read it....

Works well and is free



Thanks, after everything said about the Paperwhite in this thread I've pretty much have to get one. Book storage is a serious problem for me. One question though, is it only Ebooks or can it play audiobooks as well?
victor809 Offline
#41 Posted:
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I've never tried an actual Kindle. I would test out the Kindle app on your phone first. Works fine for me.
Sunoverbeach Offline
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I don't see an audio port on mine but don't know if that's changed with later models
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https://audible.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4539/~/how-do-i-read-and-listen-to-a-book-in-the-kindle-app%3F
MACS Offline
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
I don't see an audio port on mine but don't know if that's changed with later models


No ports, bluetooth wireless connectivity... so you may have it, but you'd need wireless headphones to use it.
Sunoverbeach Offline
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Bah humbug on wireless. Buncha voodoo spirit chit
MACS Offline
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Received my order today. The "adapter" was a waste of money... it's just a USB plug and I have a few of those already.

Already downloaded a book. I'm off to read in bed... gotta get up early.
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Good call. I love real books. I don’t like the kindle app on the tablet (too heavy) or on the phone (too small). The paperwhite kindle is perfect. Pros: I can take dozens of books on vacation and on the plane. I can read in bed and not wake the wife. I can sit outside on the patio, read and smoke a cigar in the dark. Also, the light on the faux paper is less harsh than the kindle app on the tablet/phone.

I suspect that you’ll like it.

And, yes, I also buy books on occasion.
victor809 Offline
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Try running it on the phone with a black background and off-white lettering. I find that's pretty easy on the eyes at night
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victor809 wrote:
Try running it on the phone with a black background and off-white lettering. I find that's pretty easy on the eyes at night


I did until I bought the kindle - now I’m even happier
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#50 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Received my order today. The "adapter" was a waste of money... it's just a USB plug and I have a few of those already.

Already downloaded a book. I'm off to read in bed... gotta get up early.


Your latest review, Shawn?
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