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bs_kwaj Offline
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BigGrin

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DrafterX Offline
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True... true... Mellow
zitotczito Offline
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Like it.
Gene363 Offline
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Exactly.
victor809 Offline
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Meh.... not much different than 3 years ago when the entire republican field was running on "Hate Hillary Clinton"

Same sh%t different sandwich.
opelmanta1900 Offline
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Same sandwich... They just use a different spread...
dstieger Offline
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Where's Cliff? I fully expected a 500 word diatribe about how that isn't representative of dem candidate platforms.

Thanks for the brevity, Victor
izonfire Offline
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Feels that way...
Whistlebritches Offline
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Just one more reason the dems get their azz handed to them...…….and they damn well deserve it
CelticBomber Offline
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Just one more reason the dems get their azz handed to them...…….and they damn well deserve it



And the Republicans don't? Nobody is covering themselves in Glory. They are both equally flocking us over.Trump getting elected is the most embarrassing result this country has ever seen. And just to beat you to it I don't think Hillary is any good either but, this guy is an embarrassment of historical proportions. At the very least I doubt you'd have ANY other candidate if they had won praising the leader of North Korea or Russia. Trump wants to BE Kim Jong Un or Putin. In power for life just for powers sake. It's not like he even has some vision he wants to execute. He just wants to execute the free press and any detractors. I mean that literally. I honestly believe that if he could get away with it reports would start disappearing. I can only imagine how he felt when the Saudi's got that Washington Post reporter. Arguing over which turd is more polished is pointless.
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Border security, check, booming economy, smaller check, better trade deals, check, infrastructure, smaller check, hate Trump, massive check. I fully expect Trump to win the next election, check.
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We've had presidents of this country who owned people... Actually owned people... The way you own a car or a horse or a book... And trump is what you're most embarrassed by?
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Great comment Dave, speaks volumes about you.
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Opel. I do hate Trump, but the massive check was about the Democratic party. They are imploding with Trump hate.
DrafterX Offline
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Clinton had sexual relations in da oval office... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
Clinton had sexual relations in da oval office... Mellow

yeah. but he did bad stuff too.
DrafterX Offline
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More than we want to admit for sure... Mellow
izonfire Offline
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AOC and Omar are a gift to the Republican party.
Speyside Offline
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What, no love for Bernie and Lizzy? I think they will help the Republicans the most. We don't need another socialist for president. Obama was bad enough.
izonfire Offline
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The corruption on Wall St is outta hand. Frank’s right about Warren on that issue. But there’s everything thing else that comes with her. Why can’t there be any moderates.
bs_kwaj Offline
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izonfire wrote:
Why can’t there be any moderates.


Because everybody is afraid.

d'oh!
tailgater Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
yeah. but he did bad stuff too.


Her name is Hillary.

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tailgater wrote:
Her name is Hillary.


It's been a looooooooong time since he's done her...
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
We've had presidents of this country who owned people... Actually owned people... The way you own a car or a horse or a book... And trump is what you're most embarrassed by?



Sorry thought I was clear about this. YES Trump is the most embarrassing result ever. Oh and stop acting like Trump is the one who came in and made all these great things happen. He didn't. They happened inspite of him and the government. How many staffers have had to jump on their sword or outright ignore him to save him from himself? People have owned slaves from the beginning of time up until this minute. There's only one super shady reality TV star elected President. I wonder what you guys who defend Trump would have said if Obama had a CLOSE friend named Jeffrey Epstein that he used to party with all the time. Anyone else remember those creepy photos that popped up a few years back with Trump and some young girls at one of these parties? If you can justify a Trump presidency you can justify ANYTHING. Claiming you care about the issues? Just stop. What you really care about is you picked a side and now you want that side to win, no matter what. At the same time you want the other side to lose, no matter what. Congratulations, you're exactly the kind of "informed" voter both sides want. And the song plays on...
DrafterX Offline
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Hillary lost... Mellow
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victor809 wrote:
Meh.... not much different than 3 years ago when the entire republican field was running on "Hate Hillary Clinton"

Same sh%t different sandwich.


Completely untrue. Hilary ran on being hilary, while Trump ran on the things that (gasp) he after being elected accomplished
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izonfire wrote:
AOC and Omar are a gift to the Republican party.


Love
steve02 Offline
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CelticBomber wrote:
And the Republicans don't? Nobody is covering themselves in Glory. They are both equally flocking us over.Trump getting elected is the most embarrassing result this country has ever seen. And just to beat you to it I don't think Hillary is any good either but, this guy is an embarrassment of historical proportions. At the very least I doubt you'd have ANY other candidate if they had won praising the leader of North Korea or Russia. Trump wants to BE Kim Jong Un or Putin. In power for life just for powers sake. It's not like he even has some vision he wants to execute. He just wants to execute the free press and any detractors. I mean that literally. I honestly believe that if he could get away with it reports would start disappearing. I can only imagine how he felt when the Saudi's got that Washington Post reporter. Arguing over which turd is more polished is pointless.


As compared to Obama who bowed bowed bowed to Muslim leaders as a sign of respect
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CelticBomber wrote:
Sorry thought I was clear about this. YES Trump is the most embarrassing result ever. Oh and stop acting like Trump is the one who came in and made all these great things happen. He didn't. They happened inspite of him and the government. How many staffers have had to jump on their sword or outright ignore him to save him from himself? People have owned slaves from the beginning of time up until this minute. There's only one super shady reality TV star elected President. I wonder what you guys who defend Trump would have said if Obama had a CLOSE friend named Jeffrey Epstein that he used to party with all the time. Anyone else remember those creepy photos that popped up a few years back with Trump and some young girls at one of these parties? If you can justify a Trump presidency you can justify ANYTHING. Claiming you care about the issues? Just stop. What you really care about is you picked a side and now you want that side to win, no matter what. At the same time you want the other side to lose, no matter what. Congratulations, you're exactly the kind of "informed" voter both sides want. And the song plays on...

You have me confused with someone else...

But thank you for clarifying your stance... Slavery bad, trump way worse than slavery...
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steve02 wrote:
Completely untrue. Hilary ran on being hilary, while Trump ran on the things that (gasp) he after being elected accomplished


If you believe that is true at this point there is absolutely nothing I could show you to make you believe otherwise.
DrafterX Offline
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I guess we should give Biden a chance... he said he was gonna cure cancer if elected... Mellow
opelmanta1900 Offline
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What's he say the cure is, molesting little girls?
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DrafterX wrote:
I guess we should give Biden a chance... he said he was gonna cure cancer if elected... Mellow

Did he say Mexico was gonna pay for it?
DrafterX Offline
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Former Vice President Joe Biden made another stunning campaign promise, this time to cut prison incarceration by "more than" 50 percent... Think
Phil222 Offline
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Seems that 94 crime bill has come full circle...
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steve02 wrote:
As compared to Obama who bowed bowed bowed to Muslim leaders as a sign of respect

waaaay worse to bow than to be OK with the murder of a journalist
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
You have me confused with someone else...

But thank you for clarifying your stance... Slavery bad, trump way worse than slavery...




We've had presidents who owned slaves. Yep. Was it right? Nope. Did we change it? Yep. But, here you are, defending a guy who's said he respects and has shaken hand's with Kin Jong Un. A man who's enslaved a country. Concentration camps, mass starvation, turned children into informants against their parents, every conceivable evil you can perpetrate against human beings this guy has done. YOUR guy shook hands with this man. YOUR guy plays right into this guys hands. Do you know what North Korean T.V. said about Trump? That he was a man who recognized the Great Leader's genius and that the American's were coming begging because America is a wasteland and wants North Korea's help. He helps Kin Jong Un kill more people every time he treats him like a equal, like someone to be admired. He strengthens his regime. On the other hand you have Putin. A Multi Multi Billionaire who's never had anything but a government job and salary. I didn't know Russian government jobs paid so well. Most American's don't know this but Russia had it's own 9/11. Four apartment buildings exploded killing everyone. Except only 3 actually exploded. In the basement of the 4th building people rushed in to look for survivors. They found the building wired with explosives..... explosives that still had Russian military markings and serial numbers. Suddenly the Russian military appears, the explosives disappear and it was "terrorists". Putin just had his boys interfere in our elections. They just subverted our Democracy. Attacked what we supposedly hold most dear. "Thank you for your service" rolls of the tongue easily but Putin just spit on every American wearing the uniform sworn to defend our Constitution and he's Trump's best bud. Because he's Trump's best bud you don't mind ignoring that.

Putting that up against Jefferson and friends and the whole WORLD who owned slaves at a time when it was thought to be right and a religious duty to own slaves. I'll go with Trump as the worst any day of the week. At least Jefferson tried to add slaves to the Constitution and end the practice. Trump's idols want to enslave the world. But, hey, the economies picking up a bit so that's okay. Oh and those slave owners laid the foundations for the country you love. Is it your argument they were worse than Trump? The guys who created the United States of America?? They're the worst?

The system you guys spend so much time going back and forth on is rigged. It's rigged because WE allow it to be rigged. Conservative.... Liberal... two sides of the same coin and they keep that shiny coin spinning so that everyone is so busy fighting with each other no one notices what's really going on. Today's liberals revel in every failure of the right to get anything done even if it will help some people. Today's conservative's do the same exact thing. You guys love mentioning how just mentioning Trump brings the liberals to a frothing rage. Kinda like a few years back whenever a liberal mentioned Obama. He want's to be King. He'll never leave office. He's not a citizen. Okay he's a citizen but where's his long form citizenship..... second verse, same as the first! A little bit louder and a little bit worse.....ugh.

Edit: BTW I'd like to make it clear this all isn't directed personally just at you Opel. I've never met you and I'm sure you're a nice guy. You just made the comment that allowed me to respond not just to you specifically but to everyone in this mess defending Trump. Also removed a comment that could have been taken as a personal insult.
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steve02 wrote:
As compared to Obama who bowed bowed bowed to Muslim leaders as a sign of respect


Umm I didn't defend one thing Obama did. He was no better than all those that came before. But, no where near as bad as what we have now. Sorry straw man but no courage granted here. I guess it's back to the yellow brick road for you.
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So much hate against the country you're supposed to love and defend. .. sad... Mellow
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CelticBomber wrote:
Umm I didn't defend one thing Obama did. He was no better than all those that came before. But, no where near as bad as what we have now. Sorry straw man but no courage granted here. I guess it's back to the yellow brick road for you.

Speaking of which...
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It's much easier to just hate everybody... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
So much hate against the country you're supposed to love and defend. .. sad... Mellow



Sort of a nice try...
DrafterX Offline
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I can do better... Mellow
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Speaking of which...


But, you didn't... speak of... anything?
opelmanta1900 Offline
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I didn't have to.... You spoke to you for me...
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You're a little all over the place cb...

First, you defend the ownership of slaves by past presidents under the banner of "everyone was doing it"...

Then you accuse me of defending trump...

The you lambast trump as the worst president ever because he shook hands with a bad guy (only bad if you don't subscribe to the "everybody's doing it" excuse you've already leaned on)...

Then you accuse me of being duped by a rigged system in which both sides of the same coin are equally evil...

Then you go on to say the trump side of the coin is much more evil than the other side...


"Sorry straw man but no courage granted here. I guess it's back to the yellow brick road for you."
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DrafterX wrote:
I can do better... Mellow


I appreciated the effort.Beer
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
You're a little all over the place cb...

First, you defend the ownership of slaves by past presidents under the banner of "everyone was doing it"...

Then you accuse me of defending trump...

The you lambast trump as the worst president ever because he shook hands with a bad guy (only bad if you don't subscribe to the "everybody's doing it" excuse you've already leaned on)...

Then you accuse me of being duped by a rigged system in which both sides of the same coin are equally evil...

Then you go on to say the trump side of the coin is much more evil than the other side...


"Sorry straw man but no courage granted here. I guess it's back to the yellow brick road for you."



Are you straight up insane? Where did I DEFEND the ownership of slaves. Your bias has affected your reading comprehension. That's got to be the dumbest thing you've ever typed. I didn't defend it, I said it happened, and it happened everywhere, from the beginning of time up until this moment it has existed and still does. Let me get right on that whole breaking the laws of physics thing so I can travel back in time to yell at Jefferson and company. Bad slave owners BAD. You've got to be F'ing with me. You just have to.

You calling Kim Jong Un a "Bad Guy" is like saying Stalin and Hitler were just misunderstood. And it's not "just because he shook hands with a bad guy. You are deliberately GALACTICALLY oversimplifying my reasons. That was simply one reason I mentioned, out of MANY reasons of why I think he's the biggest goof this country with Russia's help, has ever played on itself. And that reason alone is enough for me. By casually calling Kim Jong Un a "bad guy" you just casually ignored generations of rape, torture, murder, slavery, and extortion on a global scale. The concentration and slave camp system in North Korea would make the worst Nazi ever born pause for a moment and rethink his position. That's who Trump ADMIRES and there are tons of people who think Trump is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Outrageously oversimplifying my position based off one statement is called setting up a straw man argument. It's the textbook definition of one.

I didn't accuse you of being duped by anyone, I didn't accuse you of anything. I specifically mentioned conservatives and liberals. Again reading comprehension is your friend here. The two sides of the coin are liberals and conservatives, I was quite clear, not Trump and not you. If you put yourself on one side or the other that's not my problem.

I even went out of my way to say this was not aimed at you personally and edited one comment because it could have been taken as being directed at you personally. I mentioned it in case anyone had read what I originally wrote and misunderstood what I was trying to say before I rewrote it. Again reading comprehension. I defended slavery, look at the balls on you. Pointing out that it exists is defending it now.... Jesus Christ on a pogo stick..... the best part is when you quoted me back to myself and thought you were being clever!


Best troll ever A++ would recommend to a friend.

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Haw many infrastructure weeks have there been lol?
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Well, it's been awhile since Fatty Fat Fat has sent a rocket over Japan into the Pacific... Mellow
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