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Armed Antifa nut job lobs Molotov cocktail
ZRX1200 Offline
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At a Tacoma Washington ICE facility, burned a car down....

And got his ass shot dead.

Most reports won’t use the word Antifa even though friends described him as such, and that he was probably intending to commit suicide by cop.

Antifa folks are calling him a martyr
usafvet509 Offline
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Good riddance. One less scumbag polluting the gene pool
Burner02 Offline
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Sounds as though he got his just reward.
DrafterX Offline
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Wait, i thought antifas were the good guys.. Think
Speyside Offline
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No place for people like that In this great country. Send them to Cuba to see how they love living in that great communist experiment.
Mr. Jones Offline
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SCREEEW ANTIFA...

THEY ARE MILLENIAL ANARCHISTS LIVING OFF THE TEEET
OF SOROS AND COMMIE "SOFT" MONIES brought over by fishing boats and Russian oligarchs to little known tarmacss all over south Carolina and Maine ( via nova scotia : " the new Normans Cay" )
delta1 Offline
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he would have been a hero to some if his firebomb burned a bunch of illegals...
DrafterX Offline
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Mellow
ZRX1200 Offline
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Who wants illegals to burn?

I thought the only party burning stuff was Democrats and crosses. You know, before lynchings
teedubbya Offline
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CROS got burned too?
DrafterX Offline
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Pretty sure he was born that color... Mellow
Speyside Offline
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Rather, he is a hero to some because he bombed a car at an ICE facility.
teedubbya Offline
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CROS did?
tailgater Offline
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delta1 wrote:
he would have been a hero to some if his firebomb burned a bunch of illegals...


Cynical speculation at best.

But you might as well keep up your MO and state it as if it were fact.

frankj1 Offline
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wrong is wrong.
DrafterX Offline
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At least he didn't replace the American flag with a Mexican one.. Mellow
Speyside Offline
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Hey now, Tail is aware that he is seldom if ever wrong, even if can't see that. Typical for an ultracrepidarian.
Speyside Offline
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Thought I would throw that out there so IZON learns a new useful word for the day.
izonfire Offline
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Speyside wrote:
Thought I would throw that out there so IZON learns a new useful word for the day.


New. But not useful.
But thanks for the edumacation
izonfire Offline
#20 Posted:
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I prefer instead “talkin out yer azz”
delta1 Offline
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here are some people who may have enjoyed seeing some illegals burn....

https://www.propublica.org/article/secret-border-patrol-facebook-group-agents-joke-about-migrant-deaths-post-sexist-memes


sometimes stuff doesn't come outta my azz...
dstieger Offline
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Poor delta....more fiber, maybe
delta1 Offline
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here's a direct quote from that article:

"And in early 2018, federal investigators found a raft of disturbing and racist text messages sent by Border Patrol agents in southern Arizona after searching the phone of Matthew Bowen, an agent charged with running down a Guatemalan migrant with a Ford F-150 pickup truck. The texts, which were revealed in a court filing in federal court in Tucson, described migrants as “guats,” “wild ass ****bags,” “beaners” and “subhuman.” The messages included repeated discussions about burning the migrants up."
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delta1 wrote:
here's a direct quote from that article:

"And in early 2018, federal investigators found a raft of disturbing and racist text messages sent by Border Patrol agents in southern Arizona after searching the phone of Matthew Bowen, an agent charged with running down a Guatemalan migrant with a Ford F-150 pickup truck. The texts, which were revealed in a court filing in federal court in Tucson, described migrants as “guats,” “wild ass ****bags,” “beaners” and “subhuman.” The messages included repeated discussions about burning the migrants up."



Are all of your fellow campus cops across the nation saints like you?
teedubbya Offline
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Are you suggesting there is a community of campus cops that want to do similar to students or just minimizing blatant racism by diverting for whatever reason?
DrafterX Offline
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The self-proclaimed Antifa militant who was killed Saturday by Washington state police as he attacked a local Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center was seen in a recent CNN program that critics say glorified a radical, left-wing movement.

Willem Van Spronsen, 69, sent a manifesto to friends the day before the assault in which he wrote, "I am Antifa," and now he is lionized by members of the leftwing group as a "martyr."

He also appears to have been part of a May 5 episode of CNN’s “United Shades of America” with W. Kamau Bell.

The heavily promoted CNN show featured Bell explaining the “Redneck Revolt,” which he identified as gun-toting liberals who defend the Second Amendment and seek to battle the “alt-right” and neo-Nazis.

Bell called them “good guys,” going to a gun range with members and even questioning why “more white people” don’t share their viewpoints.

One of the men featured on the CNN special appears to be Van Spronsen -- who was armed with a rifle and incendiary devices when he launched his assault on the Northwest Detention Center in Tacoma around 4 a.m. Saturday, according to the Tacoma Police Department.

Employees reported Van Spronsen was throwing 'incendiary devices' and setting vehicles on fire and the first officers on the scene said he was carrying flares. He allegedly was trying to ignite a propane tank when he was confronted by the officers, who opened fire. The Pierce County Medical Examiner’s office said he died of multiple gunshot wounds.

CNN did not immediately respond to a request for comment and a request to confirm that Van Spronsen was featured on the network.
Film at 11... Think
gummy jones Offline
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crazy people do crazy things
gummy jones Offline
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politicians exploit said people when expedient to their cause
dstieger Offline
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No problem finding very fine f ing numbskulls on both sides.....ten minutes of any cspan call in show will tell you that
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delta1 wrote:
here are some people who may have enjoyed seeing some illegals burn....

https://www.propublica.org/article/secret-border-patrol-facebook-group-agents-joke-about-migrant-deaths-post-sexist-memes


sometimes stuff doesn't come outta my azz...


OK, fine.
You obviously meant a small fringe extremist group.
Sure.
You go with that.

Boy, do I feel silly.







tailgater Offline
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gummy jones wrote:
crazy people do crazy things


chicken or the egg?

DrafterX Offline
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Not sure Bloody had anything to do with it.. Mellow
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tailgater wrote:
OK, fine.
You obviously meant a small fringe extremist group.
Sure.
You go with that.

Boy, do I feel silly.









That group was actually like 10,000 members.... There's about 20,000 border patrol officers...
so... maybe not a small fringe extremist group?
tailgater Offline
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victor809 wrote:
That group was actually like 10,000 members.... There's about 20,000 border patrol officers...
so... maybe not a small fringe extremist group?


10,000 is a lot.

Please strike "small" from the description.

Thank you.


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tailgater wrote:
10,000 is a lot.

Please strike "small" from the description.

Thank you.




One could argue not "fringe" or "extremist" if it's membership is 50% of the border patrol employees.

Now I don't know what the breakdown of border patrol officers to "friends and family" was... so maybe it's only 25% or something.... but I have trouble seeing it as fringe.

(I'd be more likely to call it "small" since I don't think of 10k as a large number of people for the population of the country)... but that small number of people had an inordinate, and not fringe presence within a government agency. I believe the head of the agency was found to be part of the group.
tailgater Offline
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This is a fun conversation and all, but we both know that Delta was being more generic in his original comment. I'm just bustin him on it. So we can stop the Clavinesque dissection.
Please.
For the luv of gawd.

izonfire Offline
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delta1 wrote:
here are some people who may have enjoyed seeing some illegals burn....

https://www.propublica.org/article/secret-border-patrol-facebook-group-agents-joke-about-migrant-deaths-post-sexist-memes

sometimes stuff doesn't come outta my azz...


If you look back, you'll see that it was not directed at you.
And I ain't be directin, just decipherin.

And if that still doesn't work for you -
3 large bean burritos and a fifth of whiskey.
MACS thinks it's excessive, but you'll have guaranteed flow...
izonfire Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Not sure Bloody had anything to do with it.. Mellow


Unless you're talkin about a tampon, man..
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teedubbya wrote:
Are you suggesting there is a community of campus cops that want to do similar to students or just minimizing blatant racism by diverting for whatever reason?


Would appear that I was asking Al a question.
ZRX1200 Offline
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You ever talk to a cop or doctor off the clock?

Nobody in a private FB group would say anything outrageous......

Did they actually BURN anyone ?
ZRX1200 Offline
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Glad to see gleeful My Little Pony boy check in.
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I've heard nurses in burn unites call their patients crispy critters. My understanding is that comments such as that are due to stress. Perhaps border patrol officers do much the same. I really don't know, but talk is exactly that, talk.
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Speyside wrote:
I've heard nurses in burn unites call their patients crispy critters. My understanding is that comments such as that are due to stress. Perhaps border patrol officers do much the same. I really don't know, but talk is exactly that, talk.


I think that kind of talk helps desensitize the situation so that they can cope and do their jobs effectively. Perhaps a bit of the same here
teedubbya Offline
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Or it could be more like what happened in the prisons in Iraq and the prisoners/immigrants are the enemy..

I like to think in most cases nurses are trying to help patients and gallows humor is a common coping mechanism. Maybe you are right and these folks emphasize and want to do good for the immigrants..,,, or they may despise them and are just being honest.

I respect the need to see the good. It’s possible it’s not there and your eyes are really seeing what they are seeing.
teedubbya Offline
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I know a few folks that were deployed to work the camps. I’ll have to get their take.
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These people in the camps that are in such bad shape, what condition were they in when they got there..?? After they arrive are they supposed to be miraculously clean shaven and disease free wearing new levies and nikes..?? Think
teedubbya Offline
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Drafter I’ve been talking to folks working the camps. I wish you could or would. I believe your attitude would change.

One of my close friends started crying when telling me about the things she saw. She primarily worked with the kids. My other buddy worked more with the adults.

You can be anti immigration and still be appalled at how we are neglecting our responsibilities once someone is in custody.
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tailgater wrote:
chicken or the egg?



wings
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If only Congress would have cut loose funds for the manufactured crisis at the border... we could have put up a few more of those million dollar tents and stuff... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
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I’m with you there. You see things are not mutually exclusive. Neither sides hands are clean.
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