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What Trump will never understand. What conservatives need to remember.
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Speyside Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Jul 29 2019, 9:17 PM EST
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E Pluribus Unum.
izonfire Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Jul 29 2019, 10:53 PM EST
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Yeah, but there are no golf clubs on that seal...
Phil222 Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Jul 29 2019, 10:56 PM EST
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Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto. Translation: I’m too drunk to taste this chicken.
tailgater Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 9:44 AM EST
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izonfire wrote:
Yeah, but there are no golf clubs on that seal...


Clubbing seals is illegal.
tailgater Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 9:47 AM EST
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Phil222 wrote:
Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto. Translation: I’m too drunk to taste this chicken.


Is that the real translation?
Because I got: A bunch of gays imitating Jackie Gleason grabbed illegal immigrant female genitalia.
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 9:53 AM EST
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To da moon illegal immigrant..!! To da moon..!! Mad
fishinguitarman Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 9:54 AM EST
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What’s a pubic union
opelmanta1900 Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 10:02 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Clubbing seals is illegal.


Just the babies I thought... Anxious
dstieger Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 10:22 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
What Trump will never understand. What conservatives need to remember: E Pluribus Unum.


Conservatives remember. Not about to guess at what Trump may or might understand.

Out of many...One. Thirteen colonies became one country. In fact, recent displays of the flag representing exactly that were decried as.....wait....RACIST!!
fishinguitarman Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 10:30 AM EST
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There’s racism? In this country???
Phil222 Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 10:41 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Is that the real translation?

I'm not sure. I saw it on a bumper sticker.
Speyside Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 11:31 AM EST
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Didn't say conservatives Dave, keep up. Said Republicans.
dstieger Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 11:40 AM EST
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My bad....no matter how many times I read the thread title, I read Conservatives
Speyside Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 12:32 PM EST
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Oops, thought I put Republicans. That's what I intended. Specifically meaning elected Republicans. LMAO!!! By bad.
victor809 Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 12:34 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
My bad....no matter how many times I read the thread title, I read Conservatives


Something subtly funny about this.
Buckwheat Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 12:39 PM EST
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Edere, et fumigant bibamus cras enim moriemur

Or

Eat, drink and smoke for tomorrow we die fog
Krazeehorse Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 12:40 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
Conservatives remember. Not about to guess at what Trump may or might understand.

Out of many...One. Thirteen colonies became one country. In fact, recent displays of the flag representing exactly that were decried as.....wait....RACIST!!




Seems like immigrants today are not necessarily intent on assimilation. So there goes the "one" part of the equation unless we want to adapt their beliefs and cultures.
Speyside Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 12:42 PM EST
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I was thinking about Trumps comments about Elijah Cummings and Baltimore.

During the beginnings of the civil rights movement Elijah Cummings stood tall, he was no pretender. He deserves our respect. Also the people of Baltimore deserve our respect. They are Americans.

Yet Trump disparages and the elected Republicans say nothing. I'm tired of crickets when it comes to Trumps disparagement of Americans who disagrees with him. I'm tired of his disparagement of American cities that aren't on his A list. I am tired of his disparagement of Americans who are different than him. Don't any of them have a back bone? Won't any of them say enough?
dstieger Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 12:56 PM EST
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Krazeehorse wrote:
Seems like immigrants today are not necessarily intent on assimilation. So there goes the "one" part of the equation unless we want to adapt their beliefs and cultures.



Been a peeve of mine for some time. I've posted here about it. If you suggest anyone assimilate, then you are racist, or at the very least disrespectful of other cultures.
We keep getting it pounded into our heads, that 'diversity is our strength' and little regard left for the 'one'...or unity
dstieger Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 1:04 PM EST
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Spey, I'm surprised that you find Trump offensive.

Trump is like an idiot. He is unpresidential and I gag a little every time he tweets. And while I won't defend him for saying stupid stuff, I don't recall him saying anything about Cummings...or Baltimore that I disagree with. When I drive anywhere in Baltimore other than inner harbor, I reflexively make sure the doors are locked and I roll up the windows....vast majority of the city is downright scary just to drive through
RMAN4443 Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 1:07 PM EST
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Krazeehorse wrote:
Seems like immigrants today are not necessarily intent on assimilation. So there goes the "one" part of the equation unless we want to adapt their beliefs and cultures.

Press 1 for Spanish, 2 for English.....d'oh!
dstieger Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 1:20 PM EST
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Having thought about it for another five full minutes....I do disagree with some of it.

I wouldn't put much, if any blame on Cummings directly. He's been here in Washington for more than a couple decades.

I have a philosophical difference of opinion with those who think that Congressmen and women are sent to Washington to 'support' their districts. Represent their constituents, of course. But too many in the Capitol are more beholden to their districts or their states than they are to the nation. I have always felt that their first consideration should always be 'what's best for the country'...not 'what's best for my district' -- so, if I don't want Cummings working specifically for Baltimore and Howard County, I won't blame him for the decrepit condition they're in. The last few Baltimore mayors, however....they don't get the same pass
DrafterX Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 1:36 PM EST
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Why didn't anyone mention what stated this whole thing..?? Cummins comments on the border crisis... somethin he knows nothing about but still attacks the President for... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 1:39 PM EST
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dstieg.... you're falling into what I would call a pretty common myth in america among conservatives.

You'd see it very clearly from some of our more rabid members... every city is a sh#thole, you're going to get hep walking on the streets etc... it's sort of an over-ripe version of the "white flight" from the 80s. I suspect it's the same people, just older.

Baltimore isn't bad. I walked through the worst areas of b'more late at night back in the 90s. I had a friend from florida who always would lock his car door whenever we would drive through certain neighborhoods, and I honestly thought he was being paranoid. I would ask him why the hell he was locking his doors, and tell him I thought it was ridiculous to think anything was going to happen.

Anyway... Is it great? No. But identifying cities like Baltimore or Detroit as somehow the worst parts of the US, is frankly... wrong. I was just talking to a pharmacist last weekend who went to school in the virginia/west virginia area, and he would describe these rural dr events he would participate in where people from deep appalachia would see the dr for the first time in a year or so... What he would describe seeing sounded much more like a third world country than anything in Baltimore... Yet certain politicians want to focus on cities.... especially the ones with a high population of people they don't like. .

The reality really is much less extreme than the politicians talking about it want you to think.

victor809 Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 1:40 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Why didn't anyone mention what stated this whole thing..?? Cummins comments on the border crisis... somethin he knows nothing about but still attacks the President for... Mellow


That's fine. the president knows nothing about it too.
dstieger Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 1:44 PM EST
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No mythology, Victor. My impressions aren't from Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. I am no stranger to American cities. I get to or through Baltimore many times a year. My impressions are first hand.
RMAN4443 Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 1:48 PM EST
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according to the World Atlas, Baltimore is #5 on the top 10n most dangerous cities in the U.S...

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-united-states.html
victor809 Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 1:52 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
No mythology, Victor. My impressions aren't from Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. I am no stranger to American cities. I get to or through Baltimore many times a year. My impressions are first hand.


And I lived there for 4 years.... before it became gentrified.

I'm not telling you it's super safe, or that every aspect of the city is safe. I'm telling you there are a LOT of different types of crappy, dangerous, 3rd world level parts of america. It's interesting to me that the ones that are always mentioned are the cities...

Hell... the only time I've been close to a shooting is in columbia MO. After years of living in SF, Baltimore, DC...
dstieger Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 1:58 PM EST
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Last 4 Baltimore mayors (all Democratic, of course):


Sheila Dixon - resigned after fraud, embezzlement, theft charges (and one or more convictions?)
Stephanie Rawlings-Blake - Riots on her watch, along with charges that she was not responsive to the riots
Catherine E. Pugh - resigned after it came out that she was taking bribes disguised as 'book sales'
Jack Young - only been a few months...he's got time
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#30 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 2:01 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
e. I'm telling you there are a LOT of different types of crappy, dangerous, 3rd world level parts of america. It's interesting to me that the ones that are always mentioned are the cities...
.


That's where the dems are in charge....not much sense in Trump attacking deplorable trailer towns
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#31 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 2:05 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
Last 4 Baltimore mayors (all Democratic, of course):


Sheila Dixon - resigned after fraud, embezzlement, theft charges (and one or more convictions?)
Stephanie Rawlings-Blake - Riots on her watch, along with charges that she was not responsive to the riots
Catherine E. Pugh - resigned after it came out that she was taking bribes disguised as 'book sales'
Jack Young - only been a few months...he's got time


Yeah.... and I'm sure if we pulled random small-town mayors we could find similar nonsense. What was that sheriff somewhere pocketing $$ meant to feed prisoners? (all perfectly legal)....

I'm not trying to "whatabout" any of this crap. I'm simply saying that people have an interesting preconception about cities like baltimore which they don't apply to the rest of the US. trumpenfurher has just been the most recent and visible.

Ironically, he blamed b'more being a sh#thole on the president back when Obama was the president. It's convenient that it's totally not the president's responsibility now.

And more amusing, he doesn't mention DC at all and take responsibility for that city... I remember in both cities seeing huge moving swarms of cockroaches on the sidewalks during some times of the year... probably the president's fault (eyeroll)
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#32 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 2:07 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
That's where the dems are in charge....not much sense in Trump attacking deplorable trailer towns


so you're saying his attack has nothing to do with the quality of life there, but rather his political opponents.

...

....

he's disparaging a city full of US citizens because he wants to score political points.

yeah... he's a real uniter.
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#33 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 2:10 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:


yeah... he's a real uniter.


I've been willing to jump in and argue against a lot of TDS-related positions....but I don't see even Drafter trying to argue that he's a uniter
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#34 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 2:16 PM EST
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heh.... I think I've seen him try that argument. But I can't remember, some of this stupidity just keeps cluttering my brain.
RMAN4443 Offline
#35 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 2:18 PM EST
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There hasn't been a "uniter" in the White House for quite some time...I'm sure I'm probably wrong, someone will be along shortly to let me know how dumb, stupid and moronic that statement is....any guesses on who that might be?Think
Krazeehorse Offline
#36 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 2:47 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Why didn't anyone mention what stated this whole thing..?? Cummins comments on the border crisis... somethin he knows nothing about but still attacks the President for... Mellow


Cummings was being a condescending prick when he interviewed the border official. Chastised him like a child, great theater but poor leadership.
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#37 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 3:00 PM EST
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Ya, i couldn't remember the border guy's name so i just President... figured it would go over better anyways.. Mellow
fishinguitarman Offline
#38 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 5:10 PM EST
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If Trump was NOT a United, why would the liberal polls say that he has a %50 approval rating?

Haters continue to hate
fishinguitarman Offline
#39 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 5:11 PM EST
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Uniter
izonfire Offline
#40 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 8:53 PM EST
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fishinguitarman wrote:
Uniter


You could have "united" your two posts into one by clicking the edit box on the upper right of your post instead.
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#41 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 9:11 PM EST
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Elijah is a corrupt politician who has made Baltimore a beautiful city and very safe! Stay on the plantation and make everything about race? It’s about the corrupt politicians who run every major city in America!! Open your eyes! Only the liberals and the media make it about race instead of fixing the problems!
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#42 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 9:16 PM EST
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GREG1922 wrote:
Elijah is a corrupt politician who has made Baltimore a beautiful city and very safe! Stay on the plantation and make everything about race? It’s about the corrupt politicians who run every major city in America!! Open your eyes! Only the liberals and the media make it about race instead of fixing the problems!


You can only say that if you're black.
Otherwise, you're a racist
GREG1922 Offline
#43 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 9:16 PM EST
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I feel sorry for you! Keep getting brain washed by the plantation main stream media! They have you right where they have had you for 50 years
izonfire Offline
#44 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 9:20 PM EST
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GREG1922 wrote:
I feel sorry for you! Keep getting brain washed by the plantation main stream media! They have you right where they have had you for 50 years


That was sarcasm Greggy.

Everyone has the right to criticize anyone else in my country.
People are trying to desperately take that right away though...
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#45 Posted: Tue, Jul 30 2019, 11:36 PM EST
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https://www.newsweek.com/rat-baltimore-proof-trump-supporters-1451775



https://www.rt.com/usa/465332-not-just-baltimore-rats/


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/09/25/baltimore-homicide-murder-rate-fbi-statistics-death-crime-killings/1426739002/


But I’m glad Victors experience matters more than someone here who’s actually believable and still travels through the city.....
Mellow

I also love how The Wire was so critically acclaimed, they weren’t racist.


frankj1 Offline
#46 Posted: Wed, Jul 31 2019, 8:14 AM EST
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should we invoke the C-Bid Law of Proximity?
fishinguitarman Offline
#47 Posted: Wed, Jul 31 2019, 8:14 AM EST
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I’m on my mobile... cant
ZRX1200 Offline
#48 Posted: Wed, Jul 31 2019, 7:06 PM EST
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https://youtu.be/NtN71nO_f9E
Speyside Offline
#49 Posted: Wed, Jul 31 2019, 7:15 PM EST
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Greggy, glad you personally know Cummings is corrupt and are informing us. Personally, I can't find even a whisper of corruption. Oh wait, little hands says so, so it must be true because he only lies about 3 times a minute.

I'd like to see things from your point of view but I can't seem to get my head that far up my azz.
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#50 Posted: Wed, Jul 31 2019, 7:25 PM EST
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Hehehe... 2 posts, I doubt we'll see him again
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