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Man O' War Puro Authentico
kyman84 Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 02-13-2012
Posts: 91
Hey all, I used to pop in here a bit a while back, mostly just lurked and bought cigars I didn’t need.

Anyway, I’ve recently been digging back into my humidors and I’m about out of the MOWPAs I bought back in ‘14 or ‘15. Just wondering if you all think they are still the same or similar. Still have plenty of others sitting in the box, but it seems like on the rare occasion I grab one, that’s it, and if I don’t, I’m kinda disappointed.

On another note, I grabbed an armada corona today, remembering that I didn’t really like them back when I got em, and it was pretty good.

Herfing
clintCigar Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 05-14-2019
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I recently smoked through their anthology sampler and I'm not a MOW fan. I had both the Puro Authentico Habano and Maduro and they were some of the better ones of the sampler. I think I liked the original MOW the best.
ZRX1200 Offline
#3 Posted:
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They age well.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#4 Posted:
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clintCigar wrote:
I recently smoked through their anthology sampler and I'm not a MOW fan. I had both the Puro Authentico Habano and Maduro and they were some of the better ones of the sampler. I think I liked the original MOW the best.

Do you mean the "Man O' War Anthology II" sampler with 12 cigars, including one each of the 4 side projects, etc.?

That's a great sampler. Cracked one open that I got in 2017 the other day and smoked a few, and yes the two PAs, both Maduro and Habano, were excellent. The original MoW was also excellent, you're quite right. Age does wonders for most of the sticks in this sampler.

I'm very happy that this one I cracked open certainly isn't the only one I bought back then. Being strong AJ cigars, I just knew they'd age well so I bought not just one, but a pretty good schittload of them. Today they're all 2 years aged, all lined up in several rows in one of the giant Sterilite tubs and resting peacefully, waiting to be enjoyed eventually.
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clintCigar Offline
#5 Posted:
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
Do you mean the "Man O' War Anthology II" sampler with 12 cigars, including one each of the 4 side projects, etc.?

That's a great sampler. Cracked one open that I got in 2017 the other day and smoked a few, and yes the two PAs, both Maduro and Habano, were excellent. The original MoW was also excellent, you're quite right. Age does wonders for most of the sticks in this sampler.

I'm very happy that this one I cracked open certainly isn't the only one I bought back then. Being strong AJ cigars, I just knew they'd age well so I bought not just one, but a pretty good schittload of them. Today they're all 2 years aged, all lined up in several rows in one of the giant Sterilite tubs and resting peacefully, waiting to be enjoyed eventually.
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Yup that's the one. Mine only had been stored around 2 months. Most of them had this really dry smoke with a sharp pepper bite. I guess I should have waited. Sad
Sunoverbeach Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2017
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Aging is not an option at your current rate Clint

Herfing
midmofan Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 04-25-2014
Posts: 916
The Puros are one of the few things I still buy regularly on Cbid -- there are often really good freefall deals that beat the auction prices.

I have not noticed any drop-off in quality over the past several years, unlike some other AJ items that don't seem to be the same as the OR.

However, I do think that smaller smokes are more sensitive to heat and humidity variations and, with the not-always-super-quick cbid processing and shipping, and them being mailed out with no humi-pack, I do think they need a longer period of humi-time before you smoke them.
clintCigar Offline
#8 Posted:
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Aging is not an option at your current rate Clint

Herfing

This is true. LOL
clintCigar Offline
#9 Posted:
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
Today they're all 2 years aged, all lined up in several rows in one of the giant Sterilite tubs and resting peacefully, waiting to be enjoyed eventually.
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Side question. Do u find the tupperdor's to be fine for long term storage? (5+ yrs)
Palama Online
#10 Posted:
Joined: 02-05-2013
Posts: 12,859
clintCigar wrote:
Side question. Do u find the tupperdor's to be fine for long term storage? (5+ yrs)


Depending on the temperature fluctuations within your house, Tupperdores will be fine. Iffin’ you have a wide swing, coolers might be better.
USNGunner Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 05-17-2019
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clintCigar wrote:
Side question. Do u find the tupperdor's to be fine for long term storage? (5+ yrs)


I lined mine with Spanish Cedar, 1/4 inch planks, veneer sheets, and used Spanish cedar trays to boot. Should have lots of character. ;)

I don't see why it wouldn't be good. It definitely seems easier to maintain long term. I'm curious to other thoughts as well.
izonfire Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 12-09-2013
Posts: 3,563
MOW Puro Authentico and the Maduro version are both very tasty smokes
delta1 Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
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I like the PAs the best among the MOW offerings. Both the Nats and Mads have been pretty consistent over the years, with the initial pepper blast varying from year to year....as pointed out above, they do age well...
midmofan Offline
#14 Posted:
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https://www.cigarbid.com...hentico-corona/3288290/

Gotten as low as $22.71 that I have seen. Can buy two and save on shipping.
pacman357 Offline
#15 Posted:
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Weren't the maduros supposed to be all CBL? I may be thinking of a Pete Johnson smoke. CBL leaf generally ages well (probably my favorite non-Cuban wrapper), but you have to have a good blend to start with. Well-aged crap is still crap. Going to have to go tub diving and find some of these soon. IIRC, I liked them pretty well, but it's been a while (no, I don't want more...I'm already starting to think of making trade lists to winnow down my stash, maybe update with some newer stuff for someone looking for aged stuff, like Perdomo2 maddies, ESV 91s (yeah, still have a bunch), Undercrown with a few years, etc.

Sorry for the threadjack. I need to do some inventory work. I'm sure I have at least one version of the MOW PAs somewhere here.
clickbangdead Offline
#16 Posted:
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I don't recall them being all CBL, believe that you're correct that it was a PJ smoke that was all CBL. And wow, ESV 91, that's a blast from the past, really liked those.

I recall really liking the PA's, was my favorite out of the whole MOW series, in fact I didn't really care for any of the others once I had had the PA. Lol. Didn't think the maddie was anything special though, just the regular agreed with me.
tonygraz Offline
#17 Posted:
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Never cared for them. May still have a few old ones around.
USNGunner Offline
#18 Posted:
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midmofan wrote:
https://www.cigarbid.com/a/man-o-war-puro-authentico-corona/3288290/

Gotten as low as $22.71 that I have seen. Can buy two and save on shipping.


I got some right at $23 per after reading this thread to try. Worse case they become Son-In-Law smokes. fog
Pudding Mittens Offline
#19 Posted:
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USNGunner wrote:
I got some right at $23 per after reading this thread to try. Worse case they become Son-In-Law smokes. fog

USNGunner, remember the standard procedure when you get new cigars and don't like them:

1. If construction is schitt, RETURN THEM, nothing can help that!

2. If you get the sense age probably won't fix the problem, RETURN THEM!

Otherwise, if you've gotten past steps #1 and #2:

3. bury them in one of your climate-controlled containers

4. forget about them for a long time (years, not weeks)

5. try them again!
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This is standard operating procedure for me and all my cigar pals, and for good reason.

As Yogi Berra might've said: Some of the time, that works every time! Herfing

(Yes, step #2 requires a good amount of experience and judgement, but you'll gain it with time!)
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William72234 Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 08-04-2019
Posts: 41
Picked up a 10 pack earlier this week,still waiting the to get here,i hear they really great sticks.
USNGunner Offline
#21 Posted:
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
USNGunner, remember the standard procedure when you get new cigars and don't like them:

1. If construction is schitt, RETURN THEM, nothing can help that!

2. If you get the sense age probably won't fix the problem, RETURN THEM!

Otherwise, if you've gotten past steps #1 and #2:

3. bury them in one of your climate-controlled containers

4. forget about them for a long time (years, not weeks)

5. try them again!
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This is standard operating procedure for me and all my cigar pals, and for good reason.

As Yogi Berra might've said: Some of the time, that works every time! Herfing

(Yes, step #2 requires a good amount of experience and judgement, but you'll gain it with time!)
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Roger that. Given I'm not sure what age will help or not help, If I get past one, I'll try one and go right to #3. There are some "Genuine Counterfeit Cubans" that a buddy of mine swore aged into good smokes Anxious down there now. I will add these to those and see what happens. Applause

Wait, you don't figure they'll breed do you? Think
tonygraz Offline
#22 Posted:
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I smoked some of those Genuine Counterfeit Cubans a few years ago and they were fairly decent without much more than a short nap.
USNGunner Offline
#23 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
I smoked some of those Genuine Counterfeit Cubans a few years ago and they were fairly decent without much more than a short nap.


Thanks for the intel, frankly I wan't overly happy with the idea but figured what the hell?

What's your definition of short Tony?
Sunoverbeach Offline
#24 Posted:
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I'd say 5'2" and under is fairly short
Pudding Mittens Offline
#25 Posted:
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USNGunner wrote:
I'm not sure what age will help or not help

Yup, it comes with experience. You have to run lots of these experiments over the years to begin to get a sense, while smoking a newly-acquired cigar, of what age likely will help and what it likely won't help.

Nobody can put it into words for you, it's very hard to describe. You have to learn it.

Part of the fun of the cigar hobby is that certain things and skills (like this!) simply don't come fast, and can't be made to come fast. They're non-transferable, so you have to walk the long path like the old guys already have.

Patience is enforced by the very nature of the hobby! Pretty cool I think.
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tonygraz Offline
#26 Posted:
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USNGunner wrote:
Thanks for the intel, frankly I wan't overly happy with the idea but figured what the hell?

What's your definition of short Tony?


A couple of weeks to a couple of months.
USNGunner Offline
#27 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
A couple of weeks to a couple of months.


Thank you sir. Much appreciated.
pacman357 Offline
#28 Posted:
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clickbangdead wrote:
I don't recall them being all CBL, believe that you're correct that it was a PJ smoke that was all CBL. And wow, ESV 91, that's a blast from the past, really liked those.

I recall really liking the PA's, was my favorite out of the whole MOW series, in fact I didn't really care for any of the others once I had had the PA. Lol. Didn't think the maddie was anything special though, just the regular agreed with me.


The all-CBL leaf cigar I was thinking of was in fact a PJ creation. La Casita Criolla. Not bad, but I cannot recall keeping many to age. May have some...sucks to have OCD and several tubs when I'm not regularly diving into them b/c of health issues. Hopefully I can change that some day.

Meanwhile, yeah, I do have some pretty good chit aging nicely. The 91 ESV maddie may be the best smoke Perdomo ever made, and I've enjoyed many of Nick's products. The red cello maduro reserve was pretty good, but if I have any left, it's likely just 1-2. One of my better buys was an accident...ordered 2 boxes of the first year Oliva V maddie on the mothership in 2008 (to my knowledge, the only year they were made with CBL wrapper). Someone in CS wrongfully told me my order got bumped, and my purchase was on hold. I bought two boxes elsewhere, then got word CS erred at the MS, so I ended up with 4 boxes. Still have a couple left. My God, what a great smoke, and with nearly a dozen years since they were rolled? Those and some special smokes (like HdMs I got at Whistler on my honeymoon in 1995) are guarded by chains, locks, Dobermans and some a-hole with a 12 gauge. Just waiting until my health clears so I can really enjoy them.
pacman357 Offline
#29 Posted:
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
Yup, it comes with experience. You have to run lots of these experiments over the years to begin to get a sense, while smoking a newly-acquired cigar, of what age likely will help and what it likely won't help.


I'll second that.

Connecticut Broadleaf, if properly fermented and aged, ages just about the best of any wrapper to my taste, but that only helps if the entire cigar is good in the first place. Sungrown Sumatra wrapper does nicely, too. For the brief time the missus and I had a shpo, I opened my first box of Oliva V Melanio. They had just hit, and I love nearly everything Oliva has made, so I took a flier. We'd been cataloging and pricing sticks with some age on them, nice barnyard smell. I opened that box of Melanios and got a snootful of that same barnyard smell, fresh out of the box. I ordered three more in a couple vitolas that same week. By the end of the year, one vitola was CA's #1 Cigar of the Year. Not saying I can always pick 'em, but when you get a trusted cigar maker and get clear signals that you have a wrapper that usually ages well, or one that has already been well-aged, jump. Grab some, enjoy some now, put the rest down for a nap. if you like them even more a year later, and they are still being sold, stock up. I cannot recall a cigar that improved with age for a year or two then went horribly wrong further down the road (although at some point, all cigars will get TOO old...but really good ones will take many years to fade).
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