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ZRX1200 Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 10:03 PM EST
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Making up non existent race cards while losing his mind and fight stereotypes with stereotypical threats?

Priceless to see the idiot get poorly set up and respond even more poorly.
delta1 Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 10:38 PM EST
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Sean gave him some love...
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#3 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 11:10 PM EST
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I heard where he really went wrong was when going against the family
Phil222 Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 11:17 PM EST
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You don't come to Las Vegas and talk to a man like Moe Greene like that!
Sunoverbeach Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Aug 13 2019, 11:23 PM EST
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I know it was you Fredo. You broke my heart!
CelticBomber Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 12:50 AM EST
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"But he was banging cocktail waitresses two at a time! The table's weren't getting their drinks!"
ZRX1200 Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 1:34 AM EST
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Ask Siri how old Chris Cuomo is
Burner02 Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 5:54 AM EST
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Heard he was going to be the first "Red Flag" case.
teedubbya Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 9:57 AM EST
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It was dumb. And I think he apologized. Rightfully so.

I don’t know what I’d do if I was confronted in the street a time or two or especially continually. I’d probably react badly at some point myself.

If the president encouraged folks confronting me and made it in to a fundraiser like he has I’d be even more pissed.

It’s funny the reaction is noticed (rightfully so) but no issue with the instigator who in my mind is a POS as is his orange leader.

I miss the days where there was an expectation of dignity and decorum with our President and we expected more from them than a two bit journalist. Times have changed.
teedubbya Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 9:59 AM EST
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I also fear attacks on the press will increase in the coming months.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 10:02 AM EST
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remember Maxine waters?
teedubbya Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 10:10 AM EST
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Not a fan of Maxine and I'm not sure what you are referencing. If its something to the effect of she did it too id say shame on both rather than oh... ok then
opelmanta1900 Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 10:12 AM EST
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Just assumed you didn't know who she was... You seem to think trump deserves credit for these little stunts, but no, this was mad maxines idea, to treat the other side this way...

“And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”
opelmanta1900 Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 10:13 AM EST
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#gobacktowhereyoucamefrom
teedubbya Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 10:15 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Just assumed you didn't know who she was... You seem to think trump deserves credit for these little stunts, but no, this was mad maxines idea, to treat the other side this way...

“And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”




She was\is wrong and should be held accountable. Trump is too. One doesn't nullify or justify the other.

Also one is the President of the united States and encourages this virtually every day on a massive platform. I'm not sure how frequently Maxine has done so on her smaller platform but once is too many. If I remember correctly though, Trump did begin doing these things prior to Maxine's comments. Again... who cares Maxine did not start it, nor did trump. Trump has perfected it though.

Do you always look for wrong from someone else to justify wrong from the guy you love? It's flawed logic.
dstieger Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 10:19 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:


It’s funny the reaction is noticed (rightfully so) but no issue with the instigator who in my mind is a POS as is his orange leader.




delta1 wrote:
Sean gave him some love...


Hannity wasted no time almost defending Fredo and calling out the instigator.....funny how not long after Hannity's post, Trump blasted anyone who came to his defense.

First a general broadside at Fox News...then Scaramuchi...now Hannity.....all's not well with the FoxNews/Trump lovefest. Saw one FN had one of their economics personalities on Martha's show last night being pretty negative about Trump, too

Might get a little entertaining
opelmanta1900 Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 10:21 AM EST
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Trump does not encourage this virtually every day... That's some drama queen stuff right there...

As far as one justifying the other, it certainly does... It started with constant public harassment of republicans - whether they were practicing softball or just trying to have a meal...

These are the new rules of the game... The libs can cry all they want now that the cons have caught on, but this is what they called for...
teedubbya Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 10:21 AM EST
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Didn't watch hannity last night. Good for him. Cuomo and Hannity have no love loss.

I have CNN, FOX and MSNBC programmed into my XM and tend to flip between them to hear what they are all saying. Somewhere in the middle is some truth.
teedubbya Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 10:25 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Trump does not encourage this virtually every day... That's some drama queen stuff right there...

As far as one justifying the other, it certainly does... It started with constant public harassment of republicans - whether they were practicing softball or just trying to have a meal...

These are the new rules of the game... The libs can cry all they want now that the cons have caught on, but this is what they called for...



Yes he does. He nearly every day tells his crowd to turn and look at the press. Then he calls them dishonest despicable people. And I am being kind... dont want to go pull his full diatribe or even explain how he turned fake news as a phrase. . It is pretty well documented in film the reaction of the crowd. It is part of his schtick.... unfortunately to some of his followers its not a schtick.

As for one justifying the other you would have to say you are justifying Waters words since Trump was doing it first. Same with the baseball practice. Look at the timelines. That said one absolutely does not justify the other and it needs to stop. It's childish logic and really pretty dumb.


And lib this, lib that con this con that.... it need not be the new rules... and I'd dispute who called for it. Trump is a new breed and has always been like this. Interesting that the rules have changed but its not on him although his entry seems to coincide with things.
teedubbya Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 10:29 AM EST
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I'm guilty of smirking as trump came up with derogatory names to call folks in the primary and accused folks of murder and other conspiracies. he was a joke and it seemed funny. Then it wasn't. What he is doing in that office isn't something I can justify or blame on others.

Then again Republicans are the party of personal responsibility.
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#21 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 10:34 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Yes he does. He nearly every day tells his crowd to turn and look at the press. Then he calls them dishonest despicable people. And I am being kind... dont want to go pull his full diatribe or even explain how he turned fake news as a phrase. . It is pretty well documented in film the reaction of the crowd. It is part of his schtick.... unfortunately to some of his followers its not a schtick.

As for one justifying the other you would have to say you are justifying Waters words since Trump was doing it first. Same with the baseball practice. Look at the timelines. That said one absolutely does not justify the other and it needs to stop. It's childish logic and really pretty dumb.


And lib this, lib that con this con that.... it need not be the new rules... and I'd dispute who called for it. Trump is a new breed and has always been like this. Interesting that the rules have changed but its not on him although his entry seems to coincide with things.

So trump entering the race and calling the news fake (which, news flash, a bunch of times it is) is responsible for the public targeting of controversial figures... But maxine, who actually literally called for the public harassing of controversial figures, she's not responsible...
teedubbya Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 10:38 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
So trump entering the race and calling the news fake (which, news flash, a bunch of times it is) is responsible for the public targeting of controversial figures... But maxine, who actually literally called for the public harassing of controversial figures, she's not responsible...



No I didn't say that. I blame both, you are the one that is giving one a pass. I clearly am not.

But assuming your logic and the person that did it first is most responsible, that lies clearly at the feet of your guy. Thats just a timeline question. I don't absolve either. You do. I'd never defend waters and give her an undeserved pass, there is nothing about her I like or would defend. I'm not sure why you want to do so for the orange guy.

And fake news is only one small part of his sh1t show. And you know that.
dstieger Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 11:03 AM EST
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And after all this...nobody is defending Fredo for having been compared to Cuomo?
teedubbya Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 11:36 AM EST
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Fredos dead man Fredo is dead.



Neither of the people involved here should feel particularly good about themselves....
dstieger Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 11:38 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Fredo is dead.


Everybody's misused him
Ripped him up and abused him
teedubbya Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 11:41 AM EST
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he broke my heart
teedubbya Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 11:44 AM EST
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You have to admit making up tshirts and fund raising off this is a class act worthy of our President.
ZRX1200 Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 1:41 PM EST
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Where did Fredo apologize?

CNN press release defended him.

Teedubya it’s not that I disagree with your general points of observation, but the context of public portrayal is exactly why people are upset with the press/left. If it hadn’t been allowed to get where it has you wouldn’t see what you’re pointing out. I’m NOT justifying I’m pointing out cause and effect.
teedubbya Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 2:01 PM EST
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Maybe he didn't say the words I'm sorry but this is good enough for me. He realized he shouldn't have done it and said so. Neither action is tolerable. Cuomo seems to know that.... my guess is the other guy doesnt

“Appreciate all the support but – truth is I should be better than the guys baiting me,” tweeted Cuomo, whose brother is New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and father was the late three-term Gov. Mario Cuomo.

“This happens all the time these days. Often in front of my family,” he wrote. “But there is a lesson: no need to add to the ugliness; I should be better than what I oppose.”
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#30 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 2:09 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:

“Appreciate all the support but – truth is I should be better than the guys baiting me,” tweeted Cuomo, whose brother is New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and father was the late three-term Gov. Mario Cuomo.

“This happens all the time these days. Often in front of my family,” he wrote. “But there is a lesson: no need to add to the ugliness; I should be better than what I oppose.”


I remember that time when trump said almost the same thing....
teedubbya Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 2:10 PM EST
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yea me too. it was the day after never
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#32 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 2:13 PM EST
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The end times
victor809 Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 2:15 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
yea me too. it was the day after never


That was a special day.

I remember I had just finished having sex with 20 supermodels... they all orgasmed 15 times each.
teedubbya Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 2:34 PM EST
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Must have been like a slip and slide
teedubbya Offline
#35 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 2:40 PM EST
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Stay classy

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-fredo-unhinged-t-shirts


There is no difference between an impromptu unhinged moment followed by apology and a planned thing...... other than the unhinged moment is bad and the planned stuff is good
victor809 Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 2:54 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Stay classy

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-fredo-unhinged-t-shirts


There is no difference between an impromptu unhinged moment followed by apology and a planned thing...... other than the unhinged moment is bad and the planned stuff is good


Wow.... at $34 a pop. They really do know the intelligence level of their audience.
ZRX1200 Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 4:08 PM EST
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If you talk like that in front of your wife and kids I would say unhinged.....
delta1 Offline
#38 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 4:19 PM EST
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a little verbal abuse is better than some hot lead...sticks and stones break bones, but words don't hurt...something like that...


not defending that sort of behavior, but it seems that libs have adopted this uncivil behavior during Trump's reign, against cons in public, and should not be surprised when the table is turned...

nowadays, if you are a public figure and go out, there's a chance this will happen...if so, just be glad the perp didn't have a gun...

Hope we can return to the days when a person can go out and have dinner and a show without getting harassed by some knucklehead with a vid-cam trying to get 15 minutes of notoriety...
Phil222 Offline
#39 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 4:20 PM EST
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#37 - Trump had a funny tweet about it, saying to red flag him and take his guns away...something to that extent.
teedubbya Offline
#40 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 4:22 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
If you talk like that in front of your wife and kids I would say unhinged.....



So the reaction (heat of the moment with apparent regret and apology) is worse than the planned action towards you in front of your family combined with the fundraising efforts as a result.

I'm not justifying either, both are bad. It's just interesting to me that some take issue with one but not the other. And I've heard no apology from those that provoked him, just glee and dollah signs.
delta1 Offline
#41 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 4:28 PM EST
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maybe the local law enforcement having jurisdiction in the places this happens can file disturbing the peace charges...that may stop this BS...
ZRX1200 Offline
#42 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 4:44 PM EST
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Oh I have issue with the guy pretending he didn’t know his real name...... and with being vocal NOW.....this has been happening and that’s my point
teedubbya Offline
#43 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2019, 4:46 PM EST
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its a bad deal all the way around. there is no justification for any of it. but selling shirts seems to condone the provocation if not encouraging similar. We have a great leader
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#44 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2019, 8:19 AM EST
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How did a CHRIS CUOMO on a steroid rage turn into anything about Maxine waters?

Chris Cuomo needs a red flag ...
His response was very aggressive ...if you live in the public world and get paid massive $$$ BUCKS you gotta deal with heckling...just like professional sports players...
teedubbya Offline
#45 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2019, 12:01 PM EST
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Red flag for jones.
ZRX1200 Offline
#46 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2019, 1:06 PM EST
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No, green light......

Delta, #38 pretty much I don’t want to see this from either side, the context of how we got here is pertinent. Teedubya that’s what I was getting at not this actual event. The bonus to me was Fredo’s reaction though.
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