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JadeRose Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Aug 23 2019, 12:42 PM EST
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Doesn't matter which one. One down, one to go
Burner02 Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Aug 23 2019, 4:37 PM EST
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JadeRose wrote:
Doesn't matter which one. One down, one to go


Now, if only George Soros will quickly follow.
Speyside Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Aug 23 2019, 4:47 PM EST
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Same awful, different style. I don't wish death on anyone, but I won't mourn any of them.
JadeRose Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Aug 23 2019, 5:34 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Same awful, different style. I don't wish death on anyone, but I won't mourn any of them.




I do. The world will be better when a whole bunch of people croak. This clown was one of them.
delta1 Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Aug 23 2019, 6:19 PM EST
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their progeny will reap the rewards...if they are like their fathers, they will carry on the family tradition...
borndead1 Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Aug 23 2019, 10:12 PM EST
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He was good on immigration and criminal justice reform, and he gave a helluva lot of money to several good causes. But he was pretty awful on environmental stuff and he was a total crony capitalist. The Koch brothers are a mixed bag, tbh.
ZRX1200 Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Aug 23 2019, 10:23 PM EST
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^ this
DrafterX Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Aug 23 2019, 11:41 PM EST
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Ya, he was anti Hillary so he's evil... this is dangerous. .. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#9 Posted: Sat, Aug 24 2019, 11:38 AM EST
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more anti government than anti any one person.
tailgater Offline
#10 Posted: Sat, Aug 24 2019, 12:19 PM EST
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David Koch: "A democrat will be elected in 2020 over my dead body"


Hillary: "Hold my beer"
tailgater Offline
#11 Posted: Sat, Aug 24 2019, 12:20 PM EST
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And for the record, anyone who rejoices in the death of a human being based on political differences is a piece of sh*t.
JadeRose Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Aug 24 2019, 12:40 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
And for the record, anyone who rejoices in the death of a human being based on political differences is a piece of sh*t.






*sob* My goodness, you're right. *sniff* I secretly wish Hitler had lived so we could ask about his feelings. Same with Mussolini and Pol Pot and Mao and Castro and Idi Amin and Sadam Hussein and...well...all of them. I beg your forgiveness!



*note - The above statement would have been what I said if I actually felt bad but I don't so I didn't actually say it.*

The Koch Brothers have done a TREMENDOUS amount of damage to both our environment and our Democracy. NONE of that is partisan but you can make it that way if your feeble mind needs to. F*ck them and their ilk. I hope they get buttf*cked in hell.




BTW.....Greed isn't a political belief but it can be the basis for one.
delta1 Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Aug 24 2019, 1:58 PM EST
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they had far more influence than just their own wealth...they mobilized wealthy cons, and especially those in the oil and gas industry to deliver a propaganda plan against climate change, education and science in general that we all will regret...
frankj1 Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Aug 24 2019, 3:29 PM EST
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Hitler had nothing to do with the recently deceased K brother.
It was the dead K brother's father who got involved with the Nazi's oil refinery biz.
delta1 Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Aug 24 2019, 5:03 PM EST
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Fred Koch was a founding member of the white supremacist John Birch Society, and both sons were/are influential members...
Whistlebritches Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Aug 24 2019, 6:40 PM EST
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The Koch's are a mixed bag...…...unlike Soro's who is 100% bag of schit
frankj1 Offline
#17 Posted: Sat, Aug 24 2019, 7:12 PM EST
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shake that bag enough and ...Hitler pops out
ZRX1200 Offline
#18 Posted: Sat, Aug 24 2019, 7:16 PM EST
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JBS white supremacists......so typical of today’s dissent technique
frankj1 Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Aug 24 2019, 7:20 PM EST
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always have wondered about the adulation of these groups for Hitler.
can't be his political/government form they like, top heavy with dictatorial power.
guess his race thingy is enough
ZRX1200 Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Aug 24 2019, 7:22 PM EST
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Government control of production, single payer healthcare, gun control all sacred cows of little L libertarians across the world, right?
frankj1 Offline
#21 Posted: Sat, Aug 24 2019, 7:39 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Government control of production, single payer healthcare, gun control all sacred cows of little L libertarians across the world, right?

JBS?

you left out Eisenhower being part of the vast Commie World Wide Conspiracy, the civil rights movement was another group with plans to establish a Commie nation and so much crazier stuff.
So crazy that William F. Buckley thought they were dangerous...McCarthyism did not go far enough for them.

Quick read just now shows they are reviving in...Texas!

Just to show you the kind of guy I am, never stopped buying and eating Wech's candies. pretty sure he lived not far from me when I was a kid, nearby Belmont MA.

Eisenhower!
tailgater Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Aug 25 2019, 8:20 AM EST
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JadeRose wrote:
*sob* My goodness, you're right. *sniff* I secretly wish Hitler had lived so we could ask about his feelings. Same with Mussolini and Pol Pot and Mao and Castro and Idi Amin and Sadam Hussein and...well...all of them. I beg your forgiveness!



*note - The above statement would have been what I said if I actually felt bad but I don't so I didn't actually say it.*

The Koch Brothers have done a TREMENDOUS amount of damage to both our environment and our Democracy. NONE of that is partisan but you can make it that way if your feeble mind needs to. F*ck them and their ilk. I hope they get buttf*cked in hell.




BTW.....Greed isn't a political belief but it can be the basis for one.


So Hitler was bad because of his politics?

Gee.
And all this time I thought it was that whole holocaust thingy.
Mr. Jones Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Aug 25 2019, 10:41 AM EST
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Where was
Warren Buffet when Koch passed?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm???🤔🤔🤔
tailgater Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 10:07 AM EST
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Was recently reading an article on the hundreds of millions of dollars that Koch donated for causes such as finding a cure for cancer.

Good thing that f*cker is dead.
frankj1 Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 11:53 AM EST
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it goes without saying that it's not good to celebrate his death. But even worse people have made major contributions to the world
DrafterX Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 11:56 AM EST
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I used to cool off beers with freon on my back deck... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 11:59 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Was recently reading an article on the hundreds of millions of dollars that Koch donated for causes such as finding a cure for cancer.

Good thing that f*cker is dead.



Meh... dying of cancer seems a lot better than many of the alternatives. I sometimes wonder why we're so eager to eliminate that as one of our options.
Speyside Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 12:04 PM EST
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There are worse fates than death, I was married to 2 of them.
DrafterX Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 12:05 PM EST
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Biden promised to cure cancer.. so vote carefully... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 12:08 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Biden promised to cure cancer.. so vote carefully... Mellow

And trumpenfurher is actively trying to increase cancer rates....

so maybe I should vote trumpenfurher.
RMAN4443 Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 12:52 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
And trumpenfurher is actively trying to increase cancer rates....

so maybe I should vote trumpenfurher.

I must have missed that report....any facts and figures to prove that statement???Think


victor809 wrote:
Meh... dying of cancer seems a lot better than many of the alternatives. I sometimes wonder why we're so eager to eliminate that as one of our options.

So if I'm reading this right, your preferred method of death is to die of cancer????? Even I wouldn't wish that on you, but if you think that it's one of the better ways to go, have at it....who am I to try and stop you....Think


I'd prefer to die in my sleep or maybe get run over by a bus and die instantly.....but I won't mock your intellectually informed decisions....Not talking
DrafterX Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 12:54 PM EST
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My grandma was run over by a bus... Sad
RMAN4443 Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 1:02 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
My grandma was run over by a bus... Sad

I'm sorry......but I'm still gonna go with the bus(quick) over the CANCER(not quick, and NOT painless)...but victor keeps telling us how smart he is, so who knows, maybe he knows something about it........but I doubt itNot talking
DrafterX Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 1:05 PM EST
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It's ok.. she got better.. the English accent never went away tho... Think
victor809 Offline
#35 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 1:15 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
I must have missed that report....any facts and figures to prove that statement???Think

This isn't tough. Look at the EPA rollbacks. More toxins in our environment will lead to more cancer. It's happened in the past, we put regulations in place, specific cancers were reduced.

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So if I'm reading this right, your preferred method of death is to die of cancer????? Even I wouldn't wish that on you, but if you think that it's one of the better ways to go, have at it....who am I to try and stop you....Think


I'd prefer to die in my sleep or maybe get run over by a bus and die instantly.....but I won't mock your intellectually informed decisions....Not talking

Like usual, you aren't reading things correctly.
I said "better than many of the alternatives". That's not "preferred". In a panoply of ways to die... it's middling bad.

I'd guess off family history, my most likely way I'll die is have my memory, my brain function gradually deteriorate over the course of 5 or 10 years. When that is complete, I'll likely have neurological damage cripple my ability to walk, and eventually move my hands. I'll be in a chair, unable to communicate or move myself for a couple years before death. I may or may not be conscious of my situation, but no one on the outside will be able to tell.

Please. do wish cancer on me.
DrafterX Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 1:21 PM EST
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Haven't heard the d'ck cancer mentioned in a while.. it musta got cured... Mellow
RMAN4443 Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 1:26 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
This isn't tough. Look at the EPA rollbacks. More toxins in our environment will lead to more cancer. It's happened in the past, we put regulations in place, specific cancers were reduced.


Like usual, you aren't reading things correctly.
I said "better than many of the alternatives". That's not "preferred". In a panoply of ways to die... it's middling bad.

I'd guess off family history, my most likely way I'll die is have my memory, my brain function gradually deteriorate over the course of 5 or 10 years. When that is complete, I'll likely have neurological damage cripple my ability to walk, and eventually move my hands. I'll be in a chair, unable to communicate or move myself for a couple years before death. I may or may not be conscious of my situation, but no one on the outside will be able to tell.

Please. do wish cancer on me.

I have to admit, your scenario sounds terrible, but death by Cancer is no piece of cake. I've watched several people waste away and die from it, so, as much as I would like to grant your wish, I cannot wish Cancer on you.....

That being said, reading your outlook on how you see your life progressing, puts your posts here in a better perspective for me.......
tailgater Offline
#38 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 1:30 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
There are worse fates than death, I was married to 2 of them.


At once?

You Mormon?
victor809 Offline
#39 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 1:39 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
I have to admit, your scenario sounds terrible, but death by Cancer is no piece of cake. I've watched several people waste away and die from it, so, as much as I would like to grant your wish, I cannot wish Cancer on you.....

That being said, reading your outlook on how you see your life progressing, puts your posts here in a better perspective for me.......


I appreciate that.
Cancer can suck. But my point is that anything at old age (60+) sucks. We will all die. The more drawn out and helpless you are during your death, the worse. Some cancers are better than others, to be honest. I've seen people die of cancer in months. I would love that personally. Gives you a little time to say goodbye to your loved ones, then go with your brain still intact, no surprise and some small amount of dignity.

I watched my mother's illness nearly kill my father as he tried to care for her. I know many of her aunts and uncles had similar diseases. Her father had Alzheimer's so bad he forgot he was addicted to cigarettes. I will, for the rest of my life, become immediately paranoid if I cannot recall a specific word. If I'm carrying the wrong set of genes, that will likely be my first warning sign, and I only have a few more years of quality life remaining after that.

I love science. I look at it as a method of thinking which humanity has developed which allows us to best answer questions about the world, discover new things about it, and generally make our lives better. But something we forget is that our bodies developed through evolution. That means over thousands of generations, we selected for the genes which gave us humans who had more children who also survived to child-bearing age. Evolution has almost zero interest in our bodies after we are no longer creating viable children. So our scientific achievements to extend our lives out to a full century are coming up against weaknesses in the body we never selected against. Cancer, Alzheimer's, dementia, parkinsons etc... if we cure one, all it means is we've bought a few more years until another one gets us. If we cure all the things currently killing us in our 80s.... guess what, we'll realize that there's something else that will do the job in our 90s.

I suppose I don't have a particularly rosy view on old age.
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#40 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 3:48 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
It's ok.. she got better.. the English accent never went away tho... Think

she got runned over by one of them double decker buses?
Whistlebritches Offline
#41 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 6:37 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
she got runned over by one of them double decker buses?



Tell her to look under the bridge...…...Charlie can help her with that accent
ZRX1200 Offline
#42 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 6:57 PM EST
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I’ve been know to leave an upper decker
frankj1 Offline
#43 Posted: Wed, Aug 28 2019, 7:15 PM EST
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a zillionaire dies.

hate and shrugs dominate the comments.

before 50 posts hit the thread, upper deckers are involved.

Can you see why I can't quit this place?
izonfire Offline
#44 Posted: Thu, Aug 29 2019, 12:01 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
a zillionaire dies.

hate and shrugs dominate the comments.

before 50 posts hit the thread, upper deckers are involved.

Can you see why I can't quit this place?



Is that some sort of Brokeback Mountain reference???
JadeRose Offline
#45 Posted: Thu, Aug 29 2019, 9:24 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
a zillionaire dies.

hate and shrugs dominate the comments.

before 50 posts hit the thread, upper deckers are involved.

Can you see why I can't quit this place?





I was gonna say that I was surprised it hadn't been queered up but then I remembered that I mentioned satanic sodomy. All bases are covered.
frankj1 Offline
#46 Posted: Thu, Aug 29 2019, 9:33 AM EST
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JadeRose wrote:
I was gonna say that I was surprised it hadn't been queered up but then I remembered that I mentioned satanic sodomy. All bases are covered.

you aren't making it easier for me to quit
JadeRose Offline
#47 Posted: Fri, Aug 30 2019, 9:58 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
you aren't making it easier for me to quit




Awwww...don't leave us, Baby. You know we love you. It's just sometimes we get upset and we get a little carried away. It won't happen no more. We promise!
DrafterX Offline
#48 Posted: Fri, Aug 30 2019, 10:18 AM EST
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But you're always upset and carried away... Mellow
JadeRose Offline
#49 Posted: Fri, Aug 30 2019, 10:22 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
But you're always upset and carried away... Mellow




I WILL TEAR OFF YOUR HEAD AND $HIT DOWN YOUR NECK, DRAF.....er...uh......No I'm not
DrafterX Offline
#50 Posted: Fri, Aug 30 2019, 10:47 AM EST
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I'm telling Ram.. Not talking
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