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Retirement: Experiences, In Retrospect, Lessons Learned etc.
8trackdisco Offline
#1 Posted:
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Starting this thread based on a few things.
-Macs having the conversation with the bosses about handing up his star @ 50.
-Tonygraz's caveat of don't retire too early, and how things get more expensive than you think.
-Ram's work ethic and seeing him finally retire and his comment that each day is just another day.

There is a lot of retirement experience here. We working hacks could learn a lot from good decisions and mistakes if you are willing to share them.

As Frasier Crane would say- I'm listening.
jespear Offline
#2 Posted:
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Okay . . . I'll start this off.

Probably common sense/general knowledge, but here goes . . .

Put ANY extra $$$ in your retirement account while still working !

DO NOT get yourself in a position, after retirement, where you can't work a side job due to SS income limits.

And lastly, take it from me . . . FIXED INCOME SUCKS !

Gene363 Online
#3 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
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The sooner you retire, the longer you will live.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanlookjr/2019/07/08/want-to-live-longer-retire-early/#2014606c319b

Get yourself a copy of Dave Ramsey's book, Total Money Makeover. His plan for living debt free and financial planning will get you to retirement sooner and in much better shape, both financially and mentally.

What to do when retired. I've been retired for a few years now, but I'm busy all the time and as busy as I want to be. I've been invited to return to work as a contract employee, but at point I have not and won't really want to return.

If your work is the one and only joy in your life retirement might be boring, but there are alternatives, you could teach others or work part time. That said, I prefer having a hobby or hobbies to pursue.
deadeyedick Offline
#4 Posted:
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DO NOT retire iffn' the Dems win the next election unless you have it stashed offshore.

Couple points:
If your life revolved around your work think about part time work or volunteering.
If you think you can live debt free in your paid off home you are wrong.
If you don't have a hobby or outside interests start thinking about some.
Can you stand your wife and more importantly can she stand you 24/7?
Your health costs are going to continue to go up even if you are in good health generally.
If you plan to move in retirement give it a long trial period before hand. Maybe rent instead of buy for a year?
Think about your mix of investments and their stability in regards to how long you expect to live.
gummy jones Offline
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Gene363 wrote:
The sooner you retire, the longer you will live.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanlookjr/2019/07/08/want-to-live-longer-retire-early/#2014606c319b


the majority of studies over the history of humankind suggest the opposite. didn't read the Forbes article you linked but the actual data suggests decreased mortality in healthy and unhealthy alike when continuing to work.

edit: just read your article - they are at least honest in their last paragraph that other studies refute this data. there is a lot of conflicting/confounding factors that must be taken into consideration.
Gene363 Online
#6 Posted:
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deadeyedick wrote:
DO NOT retire iffn' the Dems win the next election unless you have it stashed offshore.

Couple points:
If your life revolved around your work think about part time work or volunteering.
If you think you can live debt free in your paid off home you are wrong.
If you don't have a hobby or outside interests start thinking about some.
Can you stand your wife and more importantly can she stand you 24/7?
Your health costs are going to continue to go up even if you are in good health generally.
If you plan to move in retirement give it a long trial period before hand. Maybe rent instead of buy for a year?
Think about your mix of investments and their stability in regards to how long you expect to live.



Excellent point, it did take a couple of years for my wife and I to get past playing the, "You're not boss of me!" game. LOL
Gene363 Online
#7 Posted:
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gummy jones wrote:
the majority of studies over the history of humankind suggest the opposite. didn't read the Forbes article you linked but the actual data suggests decreased mortality in healthy and unhealthy alike when continuing to work.

edit: just read your article - they are at least honest in their last paragraph that other studies refute this data. there is a lot of conflicting/confounding factors that must be taken into consideration.


Good to balance things, if your job is a joy, e.g., my family physician and my financial counselor, you may wish to work forever. OTOH, I worked for a contractor at a government site and while I made myself satisfied with the things I accomplished, I had to constantly shield myself from the cloud of stupid that constantly enveloped the site. The cloud of stupidity with the curse of a very strong work ethic made life difficult. Life has fantastic since retiring.
delta1 Offline
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I retired a few years earlier than originally planned...no longer liked going to work because I had a terrible boss...last two years of my work-life were miserable and stressful, so I pulled the plug...

after nearly six years of retirement, and four grand-kids later, it turned out to be the right decision...wife retired at the same time..babysitting takes up most of the day...no financial worries due to CalPERS defined benefit retirement for me and CalSTRS defined benefit retirement for my wife...

most days are the same and retired life for me has very little stress...planned outings for fishing, sports events and travel break up the routine...play tennis and walk to keep physically active and somewhat fit...

some days the toughest decision is "which cigar will I smoke tonight?"
izonfire Offline
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delta1 wrote:
..babysitting takes up most of the day...


Yeah, but who’s babysitting you???
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Gene363 wrote:
Good to balance things, if your job is a joy, e.g., my family physician and my financial counselor, you may wish to work forever. OTOH, I worked for a contractor at a government site and while I made myself satisfied with the things I accomplished, I had to constantly shield myself from the cloud of stupid that constantly enveloped the site. The cloud of stupidity with the curse of a very strong work ethic made life difficult. Life has fantastic since retiring.





I understand this completely. I love what I do for a living. I like my immediate colleagues. We are a tight knit team that is VERY good at what we do. The ONLY smart thing our management has done is is leave us the f*ck alone because they ARE smart enough to know that we are the only ones that understand it. Other than that my company has gone from being well managed by Germans to being poorly run by a bunch of Missouri good-ol' boys that clearly have no long term plan.
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I hope to retire around 90. If I'm lucky.
pacman357 Offline
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jespear wrote:
Okay . . . I'll start this off.

Probably common sense/general knowledge, but here goes . . .

Put ANY extra $$$ in your retirement account while still working !

DO NOT get yourself in a position, after retirement, where you can't work a side job due to SS income limits.

And lastly, take it from me . . . FIXED INCOME SUCKS !


Second that. I'm not "retired", I am disabled, and have kept my license to practice law active and stayed current on my continuing education credits in the hopes that I can one day return to practice. I'm just a few days shy of turning 56. However, I was more grasshopper than ant, thought I had a bunch of time to catch up, then Mother Nature gave me a hard shove to the sidelines.

Save, save, save. Also, if you have not already done so, try to marry someone amazing to be there to catch you when you fall. At least I got one of those two things right.
tamapatom Offline
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I am tired.....then the next day I am re-tired. After that I get tired again. Looking for something less tiring.
Panama Red1 Offline
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I retired and immediately realized that i enjoyed working, I spent several years driving for Retirement communities(loved it) figure i will work till i'm 75(73 now)
by the way what the heck kinda name is TAMPON TOM ??
Mr. Jones Offline
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I was FORCED into ..."a sort of retirement"....
By: several things ...some normal, some totally abnormal...

i.e. my separation 2011 & divorce 2012....

Plus my mother was in failing health and needed a live in caretaker...

Then the entire FBI-SSG GANGSTALKING ONSLAUGHT
FROM WAY early 2013 till 2016 solid..off and on 2017 &2018.. now just some occasional H.U.T. INtrusions
By pissed off vindictive ROGUE FBI AGENTS or their
Hired early released felon scumbags forced into doing their bidding and dirty work... Inevitable workplace mobbing at any new normal job was totally unacceptable to me so it forced me into retirement and the grub existence I am in..

I got SS AT 62 because I absolutely had to...if I had a good job with decent pay??? I would've worked till I was 65 1/2..
For sure..

Staying at home is not for everybody and your spouse or girlfriend is not used to you home all the time...it can get stressful...

I recommend having a cabin to get away from the above mentioned personna's...it helps tremendously!!!

I recommend to start selling off crap you don't need...
Have yard/ garage sales 3? A year...
You make $$$ and get rid of clutter...

You rich guys may get a thrill trash picking , thrift store picking or flea mkt( picking and selling) a few times a year..

People throw away great stuff...and around my area it is always 80%++ in working condition !!! Or easily rehabbed and fixed ( and you have time to do it)
For you to use , sell or fix it and sell...

Baby your cars!! Nobody needs a car payment/ loan in retirement...always be on the look out for a cream puff used car that is super cheap...buy and use it..then sell your old car and make money on it.

Recycle and reuse....just remember...
METAL = $$$MONEY$$$
IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING METALLIC TO BE TRASHED
Make a pile and separate ferous and nonferous then go to the metal recycling yard twice a year and make money off your trash...SCREW THE TRASH MAN...SAVE YOUR OWN CANS FOR 6 months ...then get 3-4 cases of free beer from the metal money...
tonygraz Offline
#16 Posted:
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Watch your finances particularly in the first few years. There will be some bad years.
Big_Bear Offline
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One of my favorite stories:

An American investment banker was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.

The Mexican replied, “only a little while. The American then asked why didn’t he stay out longer and catch more fish? The Mexican said he had enough to support his family’s immediate needs. The American then asked, “but what do you do with the rest of your time?”

The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siestas with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine, and play guitar with my amigos. I have a full and busy life.” The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would control the product, processing, and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually New York City, where you will run your expanding enterprise.”

The Mexican fisherman asked, “But, how long will this all take?”

To which the American replied, “15-20 years.”

“But what then?” Asked the Mexican.

The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions!”

“Millions – then what?”

The American said, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siestas with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos.”
delta1 Offline
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sounds like 1% propaganda intended to dupe the little man into believing his station in life is superior...
izonfire Offline
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Well, I guess we won't be hearing anymore fun insightful stories from Big Bear.
Thanks fer fucquin that up Delta!

I enjoyed the story, and it was fun hearing from the hairy, reclusive fella...
MACS Offline
#20 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
sounds like 1% propaganda intended to dupe the little man into believing his station in life is superior...


It all depends on your perspective, I guess. You could chase the dollar and be miserable while doing so... or you could do with less, spend a little less, and be happy sooner. I was happier as a worker bee. The "management" with zero control is frustrating. In the military I could "motivate" the slackers... and reward the hard workers. Not so in the civilian world.

A friend at work told me that 3 more years is really only a year and a half because we work 12 hour shifts, 7 days out of 14. Add vacations and sick days and you have 16 months of actual work.

I'm gonna have that conversation... and I'm gonna weigh my options.
izonfire Offline
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MACS wrote:
we work 12 hour shifts, 7 days out of 14. Add vacations and sick days and you have 16 months of actual work..


I would kill for that schedule. Seriously, let me know who I have to take out...
Ram27 Offline
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MACS wrote:
It all depends on your perspective, I guess. You could chase the dollar and be miserable while doing so... or you could do with less, spend a little less, and be happy sooner. I was happier as a worker bee. The "management" with zero control is frustrating. In the military I could "motivate" the slackers... and reward the hard workers. Not so in the civilian world.

A friend at work told me that 3 more years is really only a year and a half because we work 12 hour shifts, 7 days out of 14. Add vacations and sick days and you have 16 months of actual work.

I'm gonna have that conversation... and I'm gonna weigh my options.





Very well stated MAC. I myself would have kept working if wasn't for job change, yet in a way glad situation changed.
Considered options & decided to sell home & join the apartment rental crowd. No more concerns on maintenance issues or major repairs, would have been replacing heating & cooling units. Increase in taxes , utilities.
May eventually look for a part time gig, right now just enjoying life & spending time with family. It is nice not having to be at the mercy of others. Financial adjustment of course but not a major issue.
Again I agree with MAC and wish him well with his decision.


Edit**** Just applied for 3 p/t jobs. Frying pan
delta1 Offline
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izonfire wrote:
Well, I guess we won't be hearing anymore fun insightful stories from Big Bear.
Thanks fer fucquin that up Delta!

I enjoyed the story, and it was fun hearing from the hairy, reclusive fella...


hah...the follow-up to the story is that the American started up a commercial fishing business in the area where the Mexican lived, and caught so many fish the Mexican had to leave or starve...
tamapatom Offline
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Maybe the Mexican didn't fish more because the corrupt local officials would take notice and extort him out of his extra profit. We have "too big to fail".......they have "too small to regulate and tax".
Gene363 Online
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tamapatom wrote:
Maybe the Mexican didn't fish more because the corrupt local officials would take notice and extort him out of his extra profit. We have "too big to fail".......they have "too small to regulate and tax".


Exactly, just as they were directed by the local Padrone who wished to retain the status quo.
RMAN4443 Offline
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I heard the Mexican gave up fishing and crossed the border into 'Merica, and signed up for all the freebies being offered by AOC, Lizzie Warren, Bernie Sanders, et al, and never had to fish for food again.....Anxious
izonfire Offline
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Well, another pleasant little story dragged right into the schitter.
Sorry Big Bear. Take care of yourself...
frankj1 Offline
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izonfire wrote:
Well, another pleasant little story dragged right into the schitter.
Sorry Big Bear. Take care of yourself...

too late.
He already left for Mexico.
jespear Offline
#29 Posted:
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RMAN4443 wrote:
I heard the Mexican gave up fishing and crossed the border into 'Merica, and signed up for all the freebies being offered by AOC, Lizzie Warren, Bernie Sanders, et al, and never had to fish for food again.....Anxious


DUDE !
NO POLITICS in the . . . . Oh, I'm sorry. For a second there I thought this was the 500 thread. d'oh!
streetrod Offline
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Everyone is different. I enjoyed working.I always felt I would work until the day I died (after trying retirement 2 times). Tried retirement for the first time at 55, that lasted for about 3 months until I was offered a job I had always wanted. That lasted until my second retirement at 62. That lasted a little longer (6 months). Went back to work until 3 years ago when I had my severe health issues. Now only work a few days a month to help out my former business partner if he needs me.
At this point (72), I want to enjoy whatever time I have left.
8trackdisco Offline
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A ton of good stuff within.

Tomorrow night I'll start digging in for questions and clarifications.

You peeps are helpful graybeards.
wvwa34 Offline
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Great topic 8............ a lot of interesting perspectives......... 5years and out for me,but dont know if I will be able to tolerate myself after 39 years of the same industry!???? Pension,and investment accounts in fair order,BUT???????????????
Gene363 Online
#33 Posted:
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Retirement planning needs to start early with savings. As you get closer you need to be looking at what you have saved and invested for post retirement income.

Note for 62 and older: This may sounds crazy as heck, but in may ways, Medicare is about as good or better than many previous medical plans. Not as good as those I had in previous years, but better than the chiseled down plans many companies turned to in the last few years. I do have a supplemental policy, but it is a high deductible inexpensive plan. If things turn to crap I'll be out about $5k/year. but it's $62/month. Oh, and no matter how much $$$ you've contributed to Medicare over the years, if you make too much they will charge you're more. d'oh!

Before I retired I did spreadsheet after spreadsheet, mixed in all the "what if's" and price increases I could think of and took all the worst case scenarios to make my decision. I even sent my proposed budget to my financial guy who is very conservative.

In some ways being retired is less expensive than working, no work related expenses like gasoline, laundry, meals etc. OTHO, you do need a budget so you don't over spend. I'm doing more with the things I have and less acquiring, well, except for some auctions for items made of blue/black steel. Anxious

Once I quit I did not want to go back. My wife and I both worked our tails off all our lives, I didn't want a false launch. For me, the planning was like that for a trip to Mars, if you don't have it when you leave, you're not going to get it later. Even after leaving, it took some time to get used to the idea of not having to go to work again. I actually enjoy Mondays and Sunday evening.
dstieger Offline
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Greatly appreciate the insight, all.
I'm probably around six years out, and admittedly a bit nervous. I find and run 'retirement calculators' every few months. Done just fine with aggressive 401/IRA's the past 10 years, but things can change in a second, it seems. I know that every book says I need to get more conservative asap, but the allure of possibly retiring sooner and more comfortable is pretty strong.
I also recognize that I should probably be as or more focused on improving my health....but I've gotten comfortable with a certain low level of effort that hasn't failed me ....yet.
Wife has been shopping for retirement home/property for a few years now. She loves it here and can't wait to leave....guess I'm the same way.
I am very thankful for military retired health care....cost and quality are like nothing that can be duplicated anywhere....at least for us. That's a hard benefit to communicate to a young kid...either contemplating enlistment....or reenlistment. But it is huge.
Gene363 Online
#35 Posted:
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I almost forgot, when you decide you actually have enough to retire, print this Dilbert cartoon out and display it prominently.

https://dilbert.com/strip/2010-07-15

It make working so much more tolerable.
8trackdisco Offline
#36 Posted:
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jespear wrote:


DO NOT get yourself in a position, after retirement, where you can't work a side job due to SS income limits.

And lastly, take it from me . . . FIXED INCOME SUCKS !



The rules will likely change between now and me turning 62. I can imagine fixed income sucks. Cost of living doesn't get cheaper. Home insurance is up about 40% over the last 3 years. Got a new roof 20 years ago. A new one almost three times as much.
8trackdisco Offline
#37 Posted:
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Gene363 wrote:
The sooner you retire, the longer you will live.

Get yourself a copy of Dave Ramsey's book, Total Money Makeover.

If your work is the one and only joy in your life retirement might be boring, but there are alternatives, you could teach others or work part time. That said, I prefer having a hobby or hobbies to pursue.


Years ago I listened to Dave Ramsey, He had a cd series, something like Steps to Financial Freedom. Listened all the way through, applied all the rules- admittedly swapped a couple rules into a different order due to my abhorrence to debt.

I'd have to really find something I would love to want to go back to work after retiring. I don't get bored easy. There are more books, movies and documentaries than I could ever digest.

Have seen many more people outlive their their money, which is sad. Seems like the 1 in 5 people that die before they retire cause a bigger panic. Worked all those years and for what? Nuthin'.

Think that is part of why people retire earlier than they really should.
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deadeyedick wrote:


Couple points:
If you think you can live debt free in your paid off home you are wrong.
Are you referring to taxes and the cost of upkeep and insurance, or something in addition?

Can you stand your wife and more importantly can she stand you 24/7?
No and No. We give each other a fair amount of space now and will continue to do so. One set of neighbors did NOT take that into account. She's twice as bicthy as she used to be and he just stares through her with resting murder face. Only a matter of time before their house is wrapped in yellow & black tape.


Your health costs are going to continue to go up even if you are in good health generally.
That cost is the one that scares me the most. Love how doctors try to get you on second and third medications. Once they can tip you into the Internal Medicine Mixer, you'll never feel great and they have you on an endless carousel of lab appointments and med checks.

If you plan to move in retirement give it a long trial period before hand. Maybe rent instead of buy for a year?
Are you talking about moving to a different climate or type of housing (home, condo, apt etc.)

Think about your mix of investments and their stability in regards to how long you expect to live.


There lies the rub. The bourbon and cigars should be peeling a few years off of the projected longevity. The work stress will likely kill or handicap me in the next few years. It's important to have something to look forward to. Not sure how to mix those investments. Plus SS will be out of money in the next 5-10 years. Have to plan for that to not be there at all.

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Gene363 wrote:
The cloud of stupidity with the curse of a very strong work ethic made life difficult. Life has fantastic since retiring.


That is the combo killing me. I'm hopeful I have now seen Peak Stupidity on the job. There are signs things may be turning around. If it can do a 180 over the next couple years, I could see truly enjoying my work. Retirement could wait.
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delta1 wrote:
o longer liked going to work because I had a terrible boss...last two years of my work-life were miserable and stressful, so I pulled the plug...
I hear you

most days are the same and retired life for me has very little stress...planned outings for fishing, sports events and travel break up the routine...play tennis and walk to keep physically active and somewhat fit...
some days the toughest decision is "which cigar will I smoke tonight?"


Sign me up!
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#41 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
I hope to retire around 90. If I'm lucky.


How can a hard charging, well educated, well compensated ashehole like you have to work until you are 90?!

Did you marry Danm's wife too?
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#42 Posted:
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pacman357 wrote:

Save, save, save.
Yeah. I fouled that up until I was 35. Playing catch up and fighting the temptation to get too aggressive while looking down the triple barrel of a inverted yield curve, the worst months for investing historically, and a probable upcoming recession is a nasty proposition.


Also, if you have not already done so, try to marry someone amazing to be there to catch you when you fall. At least I got one of those two things right.

My wife is cool and helpful. Unless I become too much trouble.

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Panama Red1 wrote:
I retired and immediately realized that i enjoyed working, I spent several years driving for Retirement communities(loved it) figure i will work till i'm 75(73 now)

Was the job you realized you loved the one driving retired people around, or what you ended up doing?

What did you miss about your job?




8trackdisco Offline
#44 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
I was FORCED into ..."a sort of retirement"....
By: several things ...some normal, some totally abnormal...

i.e. my separation 2011 & divorce 2012....

Plus my mother was in failing health and needed a live in caretaker...

Then the entire FBI-SSG GANGSTALKING ONSLAUGHT
FROM WAY early 2013 till 2016 solid..off and on 2017 &2018.. now just some occasional H.U.T. INtrusions
By pissed off vindictive ROGUE FBI AGENTS or their
Hired early released felon scumbags forced into doing their bidding and dirty work... Inevitable workplace mobbing at any new normal job was totally unacceptable to me so it forced me into retirement and the grub existence I am in..

I got SS AT 62 because I absolutely had to...if I had a good job with decent pay??? I would've worked till I was 65 1/2..
For sure..

Staying at home is not for everybody and your spouse or girlfriend is not used to you home all the time...it can get stressful...

I recommend having a cabin to get away from the above mentioned personna's...it helps tremendously!!!

I recommend to start selling off crap you don't need...
Have yard/ garage sales 3? A year...
You make $$$ and get rid of clutter...

You rich guys may get a thrill trash picking , thrift store picking or flea mkt( picking and selling) a few times a year..

People throw away great stuff...and around my area it is always 80%++ in working condition !!! Or easily rehabbed and fixed ( and you have time to do it)
For you to use , sell or fix it and sell...

Baby your cars!! Nobody needs a car payment/ loan in retirement...always be on the look out for a cream puff used car that is super cheap...buy and use it..then sell your old car and make money on it.

Recycle and reuse....just remember...
METAL = $$$MONEY$$$
IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING METALLIC TO BE TRASHED
Make a pile and separate ferous and nonferous then go to the metal recycling yard twice a year and make money off your trash...SCREW THE TRASH MAN...SAVE YOUR OWN CANS FOR 6 months ...then get 3-4 cases of free beer from the metal money...

You've never made more sense than this post. Thank you, Mr.Jones.


rfenst Offline
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8trackdisco wrote:
You've never made more sense than this post. Thank you, Mr.Jones.

LOL.
8trackdisco Offline
#46 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Watch your finances particularly in the first few years. There will be some bad years.

What makes those initial years bad?
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delta1 wrote:
hah...the follow-up to the story is that the American started up a commercial fishing business in the area where the Mexican lived, and caught so many fish the Mexican had to leave or starve...


Do you work for Suicide Encouragement group? Geeze.
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tamapatom wrote:
Maybe the Mexican didn't fish more because the corrupt local officials would take notice and extort him out of his extra profit. We have "too big to fail".......they have "too small to regulate and tax".


*continuing the threadjack*

There are a plethora of potential inappropriate jokes around immigration, drug and gang jokes here.
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RMAN4443 wrote:
I heard the Mexican gave up fishing and crossed the border into 'Merica, and signed up for all the freebies being offered by AOC, Lizzie Warren, Bernie Sanders, et al, and never had to fish for food again.....Anxious


And the swirling continues.
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#50 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
Years ago I listened to Dave Ramsey, He had a cd series, something like Steps to Financial Freedom. Listened all the way through, applied all the rules- admittedly swapped a couple rules into a different order due to my abhorrence to debt.

I'd have to really find something I would love to want to go back to work after retiring. I don't get bored easy. There are more books, movies and documentaries than I could ever digest.

Have seen many more people outlive their their money, which is sad. Seems like the 1 in 5 people that die before they retire cause a bigger panic. Worked all those years and for what? Nuthin'.

Think that is part of why people retire earlier than they really should.


For years I worked for Bechtel and had to wait to qualify for their saving program, they have no pension, it was a 401k like before there was 401k. Net result, I took pains to save, not wanting to count on Social Security. Once I got into 401k programs, most all of my raises went into savings for retirement. My financial advisor occasionally asks if I need more income, no I always answer, so one time he told me, "You know you're not going to run out of money." It made me feel pretty good, but I'd rather leave something to my kids, not a lot, but something.
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