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The Saga of Alabama....
victor809 Offline
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Trumpenfurher really really wanted it to be in danger.

So... this all started innocently enough... trump wanted alabama to look out for that big bad hurricane. He loves alabama and doesn't want it to get hurt:


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
"In addition to Florida - South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama, will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated. Looking like one of the largest hurricanes ever. Already category 5. BE CAREFUL! GOD BLESS EVERYONE!"

Well... the national weather service, in what I can only assume was an attempt to not have people in alabama panic from suddenly being in the path of a hurricane.... had to have the misfortune of contradicting el presidente.


NWS Birmingham
@NWSBirmingham
"Alabama will NOT see any impacts from #Dorian. We repeat, no impacts from Hurricane #Dorian will be felt across Alabama. The system will remain too far east. #alwx"

That's when crap went off the rails. I mean... who does the national weather service think he is anyway? Some weather person? Why would they know more about weather than the president of the united states who sleeps through all his briefings? Well... it was on:


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
"Such a phony hurricane report by lightweight reporter @jonkarl of @ABCWorldNews. I suggested yesterday at FEMA that, along with Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina, even Alabama could possibly come into play, which WAS true. They made a big deal about this...
....when in fact, under certain original scenarios, it was in fact correct that Alabama could have received some “hurt.” Always good to be prepared! But the Fake News is only interested in demeaning and belittling. Didn’t play my whole sentence or statement. Bad people!"

This statement is obviously in response to some reporting.... on his tweet.... which you see in full above. there is no "some 'hurt'"....

But no... we're not satisfied with just leaving it at that....

At noonish, the white house twitter feed released a video of:

The White House
@WhiteHouse
"President @realDonaldTrump gives an update on Hurricane #Dorian: "
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1169300628000124929

In this, the president of the united states, I sh#t you not, holds up a map with a black sharpie drawing a circle around alabama to extend the hurricane radius of influence.

.... the president of the united states.... couldn't find a better way to fake a hurricane impact diagram on a piece of paper.... That's really what's so embarrassing about this.... that could have been done professionally at kinkos or something for 10$.

Then, around 5:30 pm, the trumpenfurher gets a bit more sophisticated. He tweets this map:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
"This was the originally projected path of the Hurricane in its early stages. As you can see, almost all models predicted it to go through Florida also hitting Georgia and Alabama. I accept the Fake News apologies!"
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1169375550806351872

Now.... you'd think this is real. I mean, it's a map... at the bottom it says "sfwmd.gov" and it shows a lot of lines of "possible paths".... a couple of which go into alabama.

But hang on.... one of them goes off the map completely... that's odd.
And.... do they even follow the dots/data points at all? or are they randomly drawn on there?

Ohh..... I see.... I suppose I shouldn't have wished for better photoshop capabilities from the president. Yeah... no....
So that map, was taken from the forecasts from sfwmd.

https://twitter.com/eugenegu/status/1169417014470795264

You can see, all they did was draw more lines on it... and ignored the actual dots which are supposed to direct how the lines are drawn.

So the president has now, to try to provide evidence that he was correct, falsified data he's presented to the US people twice in as many days.

And he still won't let it drop!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
"In the early days of the hurricane, when it was predicted that Dorian would go through Miami or West Palm Beach, even before it reached the Bahamas, certain models strongly suggested that Alabama & Georgia would be hit as it made its way through Florida & to the Gulf....
....Instead it turned North and went up the coast, where it continues now. In the one model through Florida, the Great State of Alabama would have been hit or grazed. In the path it took, no. Read my FULL FEMA statement. What I said was accurate! All Fake News in order to demean!"


He's doubled down... tripled down... quadrupled down... quintupled down... faked hurricane path maps TWICE... BADLY!!!.... all because he cannot just say "sorry, my bad".

You know what's most hilarious about the whole thing?

He's right

Took me two minutes of googling to find an ACTUAL early prediction model map from 27Aug19 of dorian's path.
http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=120454&start=700

In this map, there are two potential paths into Alabama, and one into the coast of Louisiana.

does this mean trump saw this map back on the 27th? Maybe? I don't necessarily believe he did.... nor do I believe he can remember what he had for breakfast, let alone a map from a week ago.

But what it does mean is that the incompetent people running his administration could have pulled that exact same map I found up and pointed to it.... rather than amateurishly faking two others. How can the administration surrounding the president of the united states be this disgustingly incompetent?




ZRX1200 Offline
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You got some Cheeto dust on your lips
Bumblebee395 Offline
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The TDS is strong with this one......
victor809 Offline
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Bumblebee395 wrote:
The TDS is strong with this one......


Looks like someone didn't read the post
dstieger Offline
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It's almost comical the way some people just absolutely have to try to prove they are right...whether they have a clue or not....even when it's been clearly shown they were off....and then, they must have the last word
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dstieger wrote:
It's almost comical the way some people just absolutely have to try to prove they are right...whether they have a clue or not....even when it's been clearly shown they were off....and then, they must have the last word


You keep saying that.


Speyside Offline
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Thought you needed 5 here for a quorum/dog pile. Hmmmm, my bad each of you are your own yuge dog piles.
teedubbya Offline
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Even trump supporters have to admit the sharpie drawing is odd. What's next? Is he going to draw a sharpie stick figure of Obama being born in Kenya as the truth his detectives found?
Speyside Offline
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No, erasable highlighters, it makes deniability easier.
victor809 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Even trump supporters have to admit the sharpie drawing is odd. What's next? Is he going to draw a sharpie stick figure of Obama being born in Kenya as the truth his detectives found?


Nah... they'll just blame the media for lying about him being wrong which forced him to draw in sharpie on a map....
teedubbya Offline
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what's next? taping 10 bratwurst to his hands and claiming to have huge fingers?


but Obama.... that was an embarrassment LOL. Obama was bad but we are on an accelerated curve downwards.
victor809 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
what's next? taping 10 bratwurst to his hands and claiming to have huge fingers?


Have you seen the posts on twitter mocking him?

It's pretty hilarious... from him drawing a sharpie line to make himself look taller than obama in a photo... to drawing big hands... to a sharpie drawing making it look like he has a large p3nis.

Speyside Offline
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Hey now, he doesn't use crayons anymore.
teedubbya Offline
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maybe if he draws a sharpie picture of him finding CROS drafter will get a good night sleep.
fishinguitarman Offline
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Roflmao🤣🤣🤣🤣! Somebody is REALLY reaching here

Those lines aren’t lines, they’re spaghetti models BTW.

But to make this a futile attempt at attacking our POTUS is the most childish thing I’ve ever seen!😂😂😂🤣🤮🤮
teedubbya Offline
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ummmmm wrongo mary lou... i think you need to take a closer look at the sharpie model LOL (separate maps)
Speyside Offline
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Glad you got a good laugh, to bad it is at your own expense.
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fishinguitarman wrote:
Roflmao🤣🤣🤣🤣! Somebody is REALLY reaching here

Those lines aren’t lines, they’re spaghetti models BTW.

But to make this a futile attempt at attacking our POTUS is the most childish thing I’ve ever seen!😂😂😂🤣🤮🤮



FGM: "those clothes the Emperor is wearing look absolutely fabulous...and anybody who thinks otherwise is blind!"



you may not have seen this, Ray....here's the hilarious "SHARPIE" map...straight from Saturday Night Live (can't make this stuff up)...


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2019/sep/05/donald-trump-displays-hurricane-dorian-map-doctored-with-marker-pen-video
victor809 Offline
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Speyside wrote:
Hey now, he doesn't use crayons anymore.


heheh.... sharpie and what some have speculated was Microsoft Paint.

Only the best data forgery from this administration.
delta1 Offline
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just as amateurish as Kim Jong Un's photo of him and his generals in their "War Room", plotting the launch of nuclear missiles using a map and a pointer.
victor809 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
just as amateurish as Kim Jong Un's photo of him and his generals in their "War Room", plotting the launch of nuclear missiles using a map and a pointer.


Hey now. They didn't have to edit that photo with a sharpie did they? Don't go insulting the capability of Un to produce fake propaganda... they're way better at it than trumpenfurher.
victor809 Offline
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I just realized what it is! It's like that really dumb kid at school who tries to turn an F into a B by drawing extra lines on their report card!
delta1 Offline
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and some parents bought it, kissed the kid, signed the card and sent it back...
teedubbya Offline
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he reminds me so much of Gurbanguly Berdymukhamedov
victor809 Offline
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I know nothing about that guy.
teedubbya Offline
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victor809 wrote:
I know nothing about that guy.



Look him up. He is hysterical in the things he does. Very much like dear orange leader except it is really funny when he is an irrelevant leader.

John Oliver did a segment on him last week. Very funny. I know some don't like Jon Oliver but the segment is funny. Things like an edited clip of the dude riding a bike and firing guns, proclaiming his exceptional skills in driving cars and all things really etc.


I edited it. I had the wrong dictator. It's Gurbanguly Berdymukhamedov
victor809 Offline
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Dude... they're both weird.
teedubbya Offline
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LOL

check this out

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2017/aug/03/who-is-turkmenistan-president-gurbanguly-berdimuhamedow-video-report


I know it's the guardian but this isn't anything important
teedubbya Offline
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this is worth a watch. Victor you have to watch this one. It never mentions vitamin orange but reminds me so much of him

https://slate.com/culture/2019/08/john-oliver-last-week-tonight-turkmenistan-guinness-world-records.html


In particular listen to the audio on the state media clips of him. It reminds me of hannity
victor809 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
this is worth a watch. Victor you have to watch this one. It never mentions vitamin orange but reminds me so much of him

https://slate.com/culture/2019/08/john-oliver-last-week-tonight-turkmenistan-guinness-world-records.html


In particular listen to the audio on the state media clips of him. It reminds me of hannity


Wow.... that was a trip
teedubbya Offline
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lol... pretty funny isn't it. and a little like the orange one
victor809 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
lol... pretty funny isn't it. and a little like the orange one


A lot like....

But if you replaced the horse sex with the daughter sex.
fishinguitarman Offline
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Sick bltCh🤮
teedubbya Offline
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I don’t think Ivanka has an eating disorder I just think she works out and stuff
fishinguitarman Offline
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Peloton?
teedubbya Offline
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Gazunetight
fishinguitarman Offline
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Thanks... it’s the cocaine
victor809 Offline
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Dear lord.... he really really doesn't want to let go.

He has since retweeted his obviously falsified model map from sfwmd.gov, you know, the one where there is an actual real one from 27Aug which would support him....

Then he has tweeted the following:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
"Alabama was going to be hit or grazed, and then Hurricane Dorian took a different path (up along the East Coast). The Fake News knows this very well. That’s why they’re the Fake News!"

and a few hours later:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
"Just as I said, Alabama was originally projected to be hit. The Fake News denies it!"
Included in this tweet are 4 screen grabs from NOAA.

So... I'm going to congratulate trump's admin team on finally finding a non-sharpied/non MS-Paint image to present.
These are real images... I went to NOAA and reproduced them myself.
These are... probably the closest the administration can get for information to support el-trumpenfurher.... there is no way in hell these images were ever shown to him, because they aren't really that relevant... three are showing the "earliest reasonable arrival time" of tropical force winds (ie 39mph)... one is probability of tropical force winds hitting areas (alabama is at 10% chance of tropical force winds).

but... I do agree these maps are real maps. As I said earlier, he was correct. Early models showed a chance (low) of Alabama being hit.

It's shameful that he had to falsify 2 separate documents to try to bolster his ego.
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he is our POTUS, and his clown act affects how we are perceived around the world...
victor809 Offline
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Ugh.... and it keeps coming... Trump has now re-tweeted a 30Aug tweet from the Alabama National guard


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
"I was with you all the way Alabama. The Fake News Media was not!"
the attached tweet reads:
AL National Guard
@AlabamaNG
"#HurricaneDorian is projected to reach southern Alabama by the early part of the week. We are watching closely and #ready to act. Are you?"

So.... on 05Sep, the president has now retweeted information from 29aug, and 30Aug, information which seems very unlikely he received at that time, to support his claim on 01Sep that "Alabama will be hit (much) harder than anticipated"....

Both of the sources, by the time he had tweeted this, were providing information that alabama would in fact NOT be hit.

Additionally, he is blaming the "Fake News Media" for this debacle, which was carried out completely on twitter.
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Sigh....
and the saga of Alabama gets stupider.

If you dig back to his twitter feed on 01Sep, hours before he tweeted that alabama was going to get hit, he retweeted the correct images from the most up-to-date NOAA predictions, showing Alabama wasn't going to get hit at all.

I'm going to go and assume his intern was retweeting the NOAA links. Or he doesn't actually read anything. Or he doesn't know which state is alabama....(honestly, I wouldn't really hold that last one against him.... or the first)
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Sigh....
I can't believe it. IT KEEPS GOING!

So, now Peter Brown, the Homeland Security and Counterterrorism Advisor has released a statement. The statement reads:
"As the Homeland Security and Counterterrorism Advisor, I briefed President Donald J. Trump multiple times concerning the position, forecast, risks and Federal government preparations for and response to Hurricane Dorian. I showed the President the official National Hurricane Center forecast, which included the "cone" that projects the potential path of the eye of the storm. The President and I also reviewed other products, including multiple meteorological models (often called the spaghetti models") and graphics that displayed the time of onset and geographical range of tropical storm force winds, storm surge and rainfall. These products showed possible storm impacts well outside the official forecast cone.

While speaking to the press on Sunday, September 1, the president addressed Hurricane Dorian and its potential impact on multiple states, including Alabama. The President's comments were based on the morning's Hurricane Dorian briefing, which included the possibility of tropical storm force winds in southeastern Alabama. In fact, from the evening of Tuesday, August 27, until the morning of Monday, September 2, forecasts from the National Hurricane Center showed the possibility of tropical storm force winds hitting parts of Alabama.

Additionally, the forecast track changed substantially over time, such that localities originally concerned about significant impacts, such as Puerto Rico, South Florida, and the Gulf Coast, saw minimal to no impact from Hurricane Dorain."

So.... they literally dragged up a fall guy to fall on his sword and say "I told him there was a chance!"

The memo is a lie.... I mean, it's not inaccurate... there was a 5% chance of 39mph winds in Alabama up to 2Sep. But by 31Sep the track of the hurricane had clearly changed course to head up the east coast... the images he showed at that time would have clearly shown the significant impacts to be where they ended up.

Its a beautiful memo.... lying through creative wording... I wouldn't even say omission, because if it all laid out exactly how he said, it would be technically accurate, but have absolutely no reason for trump's reaction and claim Alabama was going to be "much harder" than expected.

Again.... it's absolutely hilarious that our president has now spent 2 or 3 days trying to stop being mocked.... and at each step he does something worthy of additional mocking.
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I'm sure someone will be along shortly to tell you how incorrect and mean you are even though you have pointed out verifiable facts and laughing at the orange moron is simply impossible not to do with his never ending errors, lies, and hubris. Oh, and I guess I am your echo since I laugh at the absurd also.
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Trump does have his supporters, and they think he's great and doesn't see the downside of his efforts to prove his point that the Fake News always lies about him...
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Meanwhile, unemployment is down and the stock market is still higher than when he took office. Illegal immigration is dropping.. but none of that matters... Mellow
delta1 Offline
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you should notify his communications peeps that those are the things he should be talking about...

instead of going on national/international TV from the Oval f'n Office using a lamebrained obviously poorly doctored weather map to try to make a point about something pointless...
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Well of course it doesn’t. Vicki didn’t say that so it CANT BE TRUE!
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Peoples that aren't set on condemning the President are well aware of how good things really are... Mellow
fishinguitarman Offline
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And puppies too!
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DrafterX wrote:
Meanwhile, unemployment is down and the stock market is still higher than when he took office. Illegal immigration is dropping.. but none of that matters... Mellow


Illegal immigration was already dropping... The stock market hasn't actually increased from 1 year ago... Unemployment might be down... I would need to look.

And we've got a clown infant in the oval office.
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