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DrafterX Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Sep 8 2019, 1:53 PM EST
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And Trump.... Think



Google allegedly offered search results during the 2016 election season that manipulated voters in Hillary Clinton's favor, according to researcher Dr. Robert Epstein.

The study looked into "politically oriented searches" from a "diverse group of American voters," Epstein said in an interview airing Sunday on "Life, Liberty & Levin."

"In 2016, I set up the first-ever monitoring system that allowed me to look over the shoulders of a diverse group of American voters -- there were 95 people in 24 states," he said.

"I looked at politically oriented searches that these people were conducting on Google, Bing and Yahoo. I was able to preserve more than 13,000 searches and 98,000 web pages, and I found very dramatic bias in Google's search results... favoring Hillary Clinton -- whom I supported strongly."

Regarding the specific results of his study, Epstein claimed the findings showed what he called a sizable bias.

"That level of bias was sufficient, I calculated, to have shifted over time somewhere between 2.6 and 10.4 million votes to Hillary without anyone knowing that this had occurred," he claimed.

In response, host Mark Levin asked how such bias could materialize.

Epstein said people searching Google for politically relevant or election-related information will see search suggestions pop up as they type, and also see a number of top searches on the first page of their results. He claimed the alleged bias manifested itself largely within those two areas.

"We now know that those search suggestions have a very, very powerful effect on people and that they alone can shift opinions and votes dramatically and then search results appear below," he said.

"The point is if there's a bias in them -- which means if a search result that's high up on the list, if that takes you to a web page that makes one candidate look better than another -- if you're undecided and you're trying to make up your mind, what we've learned is that information posted high in Google search results will shift opinions among undecided people dramatically because people trust Google."

Film at 11... Think
delta1 Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Sep 8 2019, 3:42 PM EST
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Hillary lost, man...
DrafterX Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Sep 8 2019, 4:07 PM EST
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Not if you ask her... Mellow
ZRX1200 Online
#4 Posted: Sun, Sep 8 2019, 5:24 PM EST
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Right Al, so none of the stuff she got away with matter
CelticBomber Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Sep 8 2019, 5:28 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Hillary lost, man...


Thanks Obama!
dkeage Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Sep 8 2019, 5:30 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Right Al, so none of the stuff she got away with mattered
CelticBomber Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Sep 8 2019, 5:39 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Right Al, so none of the stuff she got away with matter


Really? I think it mattered. Why don't you?
teedubbya Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Sep 8 2019, 5:44 PM EST
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It actually matters more than the things happening now that can be stopped or prevented.
Phil222 Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Sep 8 2019, 8:12 PM EST
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I’ve read some concerning things about censorship and the influence of social media/search engines over the last couple of years. Maybe we should be keeping a closer eye on all of the Facebooks and Googles in the world. I’m not sure what needs to happen exactly, but thinking something prolly needs to happen.
izonfire Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Sep 8 2019, 8:22 PM EST
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Phil222 wrote:
I’ve read some concerning things about censorship and the influence of social media/search engines over the last couple of years. Maybe we should be keeping a closer eye on all of the Facebooks and Googles in the world. I’m not sure what needs to happen exactly, but thinking something prolly needs to happen.


That goes back to the monopoly/anti-trust legislation, the discussion of which seems to be non-existant. People should be much more concerned about that than it seems they are...
frankj1 Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Sep 8 2019, 8:57 PM EST
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you might like Warren more than you know.
izonfire Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Sep 8 2019, 9:00 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
you might like Warren more than you know.


I might like her more than YOU know...
frankj1 Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Sep 8 2019, 9:03 PM EST
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could be.
I'd really like to keep her in the Senate though.
izonfire Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Sep 8 2019, 9:41 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
could be.
I'd really like to keep her in the Senate though.


You might have to
victor809 Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Sep 8 2019, 10:31 PM EST
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I thought someone already posted this a week or so ago.
fishinguitarman Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 7:02 AM EST
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Trump 2020!
teedubbya Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 7:29 AM EST
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Oh I wish he was 20 20 but I’m afraid Taliban Trump is blinded by greed and his penchants for losing money.
fishinguitarman Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 7:59 AM EST
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Ahhhh a new name for our illustrious POTUS as he continues to be the great leader he is!
teedubbya Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 8:04 AM EST
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You spelled dear leader wrong.
fishinguitarman Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 8:45 AM EST
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Ooops Sorry!🤷‍♂️
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#21 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 9:09 AM EST
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Damn it Phil.....why do I keep agreeing with you?

What happened
frankj1 Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 10:33 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Damn it Phil.....why do I keep agreeing with you?

What happened

so another closet Warren supporter!
HA!
teedubbya Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 11:17 AM EST
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Isn’t she the one that investigated ammityville?
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#24 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 11:42 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
could be.
I'd really like to keep her in the Senate though.


Yeah.
She's doing a bang up job right now.


That's sarcasm, by the way.

She is terrible.

And she's getting paid for a job she isn't doing.

Which in retrospect is probably the best thing for this state.

Except our other guy is Markey. And he's useless.

tailgater Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 11:43 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Isn’t she the one that investigated ammityville?


Part of her ancestry test.
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#26 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 11:53 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Part of her ancestry test.

That and making good use of the "Oklahoma Oysters"....she's a master of Native American cooking...Not talking
tailgater Offline
#27 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 12:15 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
That and making good use of the "Oklahoma Oysters"....she's a master of Native American cooking...Not talking


I believe it's called Pow Wow Chow.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146628/Elizabeth-Warrens-Pow-Wow-Chow-Cherokee-recipes-word-word-COPIES-famous-FRENCH-chefs-techniques.html

And it was french.

And not hers.


So even her fake Indian dishes were fake.
Culinary Stolen Valor.
Phil222 Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 12:32 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Damn it Phil.....why do I keep agreeing with you?

What happened

The polarizing issues are probably more fun to discuss, but I’d be willing to bet that most of us here would agree on far more than we disagree.
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#29 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 3:07 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Right Al, so none of the stuff she got away with matter


not my point...was she helped? there appeared to be shenanigans on the internet to hurt her, also...as well as to help Trump, who actually won (Mueller Report)

why turn a blind eye towards stuff done to help Trump?

let's clean it ALL up...
teedubbya Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 3:10 PM EST
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I don’t know much about warren but absolutely think we should put together a list of all her lies and put it next to the list of whomever she is running against.
delta1 Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 3:15 PM EST
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but the cons will insist that Trump can't be measured by the same standards as anybody else...cuz he's like uh idiot...
victor809 Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 3:44 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
but the cons will insist that Trump can't be measured by the same standards as anybody else...cuz he's like uh idiot...


trump's presidency is the republican version of the special olympics.
teedubbya Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 3:46 PM EST
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Not really. The special olympics have winners. No one is going to win this train wreck.
victor809 Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 3:53 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Not really. The special olympics have winners. No one is going to win this train wreck.


He runs in a circle... sh#ts himself and then picks his nose and they say "good boy" and give him a gold medal.... this goes on almost daily.

Sounds like the special olympics to me.
teedubbya Offline
#35 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 4:12 PM EST
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You do t give the special olympics enough credit.
victor809 Offline
#36 Posted: Mon, Sep 9 2019, 4:18 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
You do t give the special olympics enough credit.


true...
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#37 Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019, 10:05 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I don’t know much about warren but absolutely think we should put together a list of all her lies and put it next to the list of whomever she is running against.

well, there's the Native American thing, and the cook book.
Not sure what else.

She may have forced herself sexually on students when she was a professor though, but I heard she paid off the victims.
victor809 Offline
#38 Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019, 10:11 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
well, there's the Native American thing, and the cook book.
Not sure what else.

She may have forced herself sexually on students when she was a professor though, but I heard she paid off the victims.

What, is she gonna run as a Republican?
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#39 Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019, 10:21 AM EST
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You don't think Monica got paid..?? Mellow
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#40 Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019, 11:16 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
not my point...was she helped? there appeared to be shenanigans on the internet to hurt her, also...as well as to help Trump, who actually won (Mueller Report)

why turn a blind eye towards stuff done to help Trump?

let's clean it ALL up...



Great Al lets.....problem for me is the downplay of everything she, and actively employed federal government employees did because she lost. I don’t care who won or lost THATS my point.
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#41 Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019, 12:06 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
well, there's the Native American thing, and the cook book.
Not sure what else.

She may have forced herself sexually on students when she was a professor though, but I heard she paid off the victims.

She also tried to get us to believe she drinks beer, like us common peons.....HA....Beer
izonfire Offline
#42 Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019, 12:11 PM EST
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She wouldn’t have to force herself on Delta.
He can’t wait to toss her salad...
DrafterX Offline
#43 Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019, 12:14 PM EST
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I heard she once put a cigar out on CROS' chest... Mad
dstieger Offline
#44 Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019, 12:29 PM EST
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Is it ok if he asked her to do it?
DrafterX Offline
#45 Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019, 12:39 PM EST
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Well, i guess so... it does sound like somethin CROS would be into.. Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#46 Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019, 3:33 PM EST
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Fake news. CROS had his chest amputated in 2005 due to the sugars and stuff.
delta1 Offline
#47 Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019, 3:39 PM EST
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I could see myself getting behind Warren...

just to hear what kinds of noise she would make...
teedubbya Offline
#48 Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019, 3:40 PM EST
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It would be like effing the church lady
DrafterX Offline
#49 Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019, 4:05 PM EST
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How would you know that..?? Mellow
delta1 Offline
#50 Posted: Tue, Sep 10 2019, 4:05 PM EST
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the OP seems to be describing what the Russians did, but in reverse...they pushed info seekers on the internet to negative stuff on Hillary...maybe potential Hillary voters convinced to not vote................cons didn't think that was a big deal...Trump won...

is the solution to prohibit Google, Facebook and other internet platforms from letting customers/candidates buy ad space and other services to push a candidate?
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