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OK - I agree I need some schooling on the subject.
Evidently, the sports arena has been hijacked and used for political purposes numerous times.

I believe in the ideology of my argument.
Should exceptions be made to that? Certainly.
In the case of serious human rights abuses.
And what is the threshold to meet that classification?

Should it be based on a handful of questionable, highly publicized cases?
The media only presents only a tiny fraction of the injustices that occur every day.
Which ones are highlighted and why? Is there an agenda?
It’s obvious every time I look at multiple news sources.
Selective outrage at selective stories.
Suppression of stories that contradict the agenda.

No doubt why their is so much distrust today.
Are we ever shown the “truth”?

Just because an athlete possesses tremendous physical abilities,
Does that make them any more righteous than you or me?
Their position gives them a platform. Are they supported by truth?
Or perceived truth based on what has been widely presented?

Does someone want to become the next multi-million dollar SJW???

I'd pour my beer on them... well, think about it anyways... stadium beers are expensive..

gotta sneak in your own...it's the American Way!

So you should be the arbiter of acceptable and unacceptable protest? Every US Olympic athlete pays their own way from start to finish. Just because they wear the uniform of the US doesn't mean they give up any rights. The National Anthem played at the beginning of all sporting events in the US is because the US Military was looking for ways to get young people to enlist. So they offered money to each league to play the Anthem and stir up patriotism, Especially at college games. All this info is public. The Military has admitted to it. The documents are public. Maybe YOU SHOULD do some homework before criticizing these men and women who spent the majority of their lives working towards something where they could make a statement and start a conversation. They earned their right to make a public statement. You don't have to agree with it but you should respect it.

The thought process is the same. If you honestly thought he was comparing the possible violence for disobedience you are purposefully being dishonest. You might be taken more serious if you weren't always so dishonest in your arguments. You and Victor are two sides of the same coin. Penny for your thoughts?

You gotta admit that would be a cool coin.

I don't believe that any citizen should give up any rights. I believe we all have a right to peaceful protest.
I do not believe any player has a right to hijack opening ceremonies for their own righteous cause.
That is the team's time, the event's time, to be enjoyed by the fans who paid to see that event.
It is not a public moment to do with whatever you feel like doing.
They can form protests, proclaim their cause, make public appearances, form organizations, spread propaganda on their own time.

BTW - These athletes have worked a majority of their lives to achieve athletic excellence, nothing necessarily more.

OK - by your reasoning, she should be allowed to kneel in protest. Therefore, every other single player should be allowed to protest for their own personal pet cause. We all have causes that our dear to our hearts. Her cause can not supersede any others. That would only be fair and righteous, correct???

- The hippy should be allowed to strike a yoga pose to represent peace and world unity
- The vegan should be allowed to wear a suit of meat
- The tree-hugger should be allowed to wear shrubbery on her head
- The environmentalist should be allowed to wear solar panels
- The pet adoption supporter should be allowed to stand in a kennel of pups
- The LGBTQ member should be allowed to wear a rainbow banner
- The outdoors woman should be allowed to don her coonskin cap and rifle
- The auto accident awareness chick should be allowed to wear a busted up car door
- The wiccan should be able to wear her witches hat
- The anti-Masshole player should have her mini-Masshole wearing a gag and straight jacket in tow
- etc, ...

You do agree, right?
Each one has a right to their personal protest, yes?
You can't righteously deny any of them their right to protest.
That wouldn't be righteous.

So now you have an event that has been completely hijacked and turned into a chaotic carnival!
Yippee sportsmanship!!!

By allowing one, you must allow others, which then becomes a very slippery slope indeed...
(and no, I'm not referring to the Chinese national you have tied and lubed up in the basement)
(again, no offense to my Asian brothers and sisters, except for my Asian wannabe Latino friend)




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Americans loved it when Jesse Owens showed up Hitler at the 1936 Olympics in Berlin...I guess protests at sporting events on the world's stage are OK, but only in some cases...

Owens was still was just a black man, a second class citizen, when he came home...

Actually, I was using hyperbole to illustrate my point.
It’s all absurd. It’s a team sport. She is taking the spotlight from everyone else.
Drawing all attention to her cause.
If she has it, everyone else should have it as well.
That would only be fair...

I thought his password is smellmyfinger all caps.

Noted. Coloncoin.

He in deep schitt

nice!

The story of Peter Norman’ is fascinating.

“I couldn’t see why a black man couldn’t drink the same water from a water fountain, take the same bus or go to the same school as a white man.

There was a social injustice that I couldn’t do anything about from where I was, but I certainly hated it.

It has been said that sharing my silver medal with that incident on the victory dais detracted from my performance.

On the contrary.

I have to confess, I was rather proud to be part of it”.

Where is Freud when you need him?

All I said was you had to respect a person's right to say what they wanted, not what they said.

No, I don't, but you are making up something that wasn't there at that time. Owens did protest at the 68 Olympics. Follow the Harry Edwards comment. Edwards did and does some interesting things. If you think Owens made a political statement, please enlighten me. I see an athlete who was great, won gold medals, and made Hitler look foolish. But I see no protest or political statement.

Tail, wouldn't there be no we in the equation? Their employers set the rules, same as any other employer. Or are you stating that you as a taxpayer have a right to have input on team USA women's soccer? I would see that as a slippery slope. The we that I do see is that we can choose to watch or not watch. Also we have the right to express our opinions.

You're not being tricky. Or accurate.
They've earned an audience to watch them perform. Not pontificate or otherwise make a statement that is personal.

Perhaps the guy who sings the national anthem should then have the "right" to play on the team? I mean, he earned his right to be on the field through hard work and dedication.
Or let's be more realistic. He's given a microphone. Should he be allowed to break mid song and preach about his vegan lifestyle?

wait...some highly trained athletes who have become better at what they do than virtually all the rest of us, put in more hours getting there than virtually all the rest of us, and have risen to the level of a top three in the entire world (Olympics) or top few dozen (Pro Sports) find themselves in a position to be seen/heard by a yuuuuge audience and express the same rights we have but we don't get on that platform of opportunity...?


waaaaaaahhhhhhhh! American Way, whiners. Life's not fair, our system of competition creates the best, the best get opportunities the rest of us don't...what have I left out about our way of life?

Bunch of babies.

OK, more seriously, I wouldn't do it on the platform, but if I had that kind of fame and felt that strongly and was interviewed and it came up, I just might express my views if I felt injustice was happening. I'm an American, damn it, and shutting up to please those opposed to my views is cowardly.

Has anyone thought how they'd feel if an athlete grabbed the mic and said MAGA? Would you still complain? It's the message, not the medium (did I just channel Warhol?
Admit it to yourselves. But remember, the stuff we consider ugly is the definition of our freedom to express without fear.

if I was a bookie, I wouldn't take God's action.

I would. I’ll take god plus 7

Well he’s not very athletic

Where did you get that?

Oh yeah. You made it up.

If you have a valid point, you don't have to lie.

Your lie is duly noted.



In case you still don't comprehend (understand), I don't want anyone displaying a personal protest during the national anthem.

Didn't mean to confuse you.