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teedubbya Offline
#101 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 12:44 PM EST
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I was hoping further clarification might provide for a softening, like izon was looking for but nope. It just kept solidifying the stupidity.
teedubbya Offline
#102 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 12:45 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I got over it tho... Mellow



Yea but only after I showed you my boobs.


And to be clear if I heard anyone saying the NRA or any other group has done more damage than the terrorists did on 911, particularly on 911, I would find them equally idiotic. It's not about the politics or which side....
delta1 Offline
#103 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 12:53 PM EST
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this echoes the mindset of the House Un-American Activities Committee and the rise of McCarthyism in the 50's that unleashed intolerance of political opposition into a witch hunt that destroyed many innocent Americans and is a dark stain on our history...

totally contradicts one of America's touchstones ... this nation's motto: E Pluribus Unum

guess "pluribus" has been redefined to mean "many like-minded" in the minds of some...

but we still love and respect your right to believe what you believe, wish you no ill will, or demand that you take a one way trip anywhere...
teedubbya Offline
#104 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 12:57 PM EST
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Well one thing is clear.... the extreme left (defined as past and current leadership) are unamerican, and equal to or worse than the terrorists that took down the WTC.


I don't know but if I really thought someone was unamerican and worse than the terrorists that did the WTC I think I would be compelled to take action.


Its hopefully just stupid and harmless hyperboly or rhetoric. Anyone who has their head down, blinders on and followed their politics so far down this this path needs help. They are lost..
delta1 Offline
#105 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 1:08 PM EST
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but they have become emboldened and are expressing their limited views more publicly due to the current leadership in the WH and his propaganda machine...


so, yes, Drafter, this is all Trump's fault...d'oh!
Phil222 Offline
#106 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 1:09 PM EST
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steve02 wrote:
That is incorrect. Reagan, as president elect, said that within seconds after being sworn in, he’d nuke Iran. They believed him and released the hostages just prior to the swearing in.

Do you have a source for this because I looked briefly and didn't see anything like this. I did see one place say we freed up almost 8 billion in assets in exchange, and another article saying that Reagan freed up another half-billion. I'm not sure if this was part of the initial 8 billion or not.

Reagan Agrees to Return to Iran Frozen Assets Worth $454 Million
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-05-13-mn-4265-story.html
Phil222 Offline
#107 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 1:13 PM EST
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There have been actions taken by people on both sides of the aisle that could be considered damaging to America depending on your political beliefs. To the best of my knowledge, the actions taken by our politicians were done so in the hopes of making America a better country. The actions taken by the terrorists on 9/11 were done so to kill as many Americans as possible, and hopefully lead to the destruction of our country in the process. Is it really fair to compare the two? Maybe it is...guess I just don't understand why someone would want to do it.
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#108 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 1:14 PM EST
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Phil222 wrote:
Do you have a source for this because I looked briefly and didn't see anything like this. I did see one place say we freed up almost 8 billion in assets in exchange and another article saying that Reagan freed up another half-billion. I'm not sure if this was part of the initial 8 billion or not.

Reagan Agrees to Return to Iran Frozen Assets Worth $454 Million
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-05-13-mn-4265-story.html



these the same bags of money Obama sent Iran?

we sure owe them bastids shiploads of cash...
teedubbya Offline
#109 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 1:28 PM EST
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If my side did it it is ok. If theirs did it is evil. Simple.
RMAN4443 Offline
#110 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 1:30 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
If my side did it it is ok. If theirs did it is evil. Simple.

That's the attitude....Anxious
victor809 Offline
#111 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 1:45 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Well one thing is clear.... the extreme left (defined as past and current leadership) are unamerican, and equal to or worse than the terrorists that took down the WTC.


I don't know but if I really thought someone was unamerican and worse than the terrorists that did the WTC I think I would be compelled to take action.


Its hopefully just stupid and harmless hyperboly or rhetoric. Anyone who has their head down, blinders on and followed their politics so far down this this path needs help. They are lost..


I've always thought of it as a real weakness.

I mean.... murderers are bad. If I saw someone in the process of murdering people and I didn't try to do something to stop it.... I don't know if I could live with myself after that.

Someone doing something worse than murdering people.... and he's not even trying to stop it.

I wouldn't be able to live with myself after that level of cowardice
DrafterX Offline
#112 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 2:07 PM EST
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If you can live with yourself so far i think you'll make it... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#113 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 2:16 PM EST
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Victor is no coward. I saw him try to make a dude dance once just for stealing glasses.

Poor poor CROS.
DrafterX Offline
#114 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 2:17 PM EST
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I didn't mean coward.. but no doubt he's seen some weird chit.... you too prolly.... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#115 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 2:18 PM EST
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Once when I was playing ping pong in ding dang.....
victor809 Offline
#116 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 2:21 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I didn't mean coward.. but no doubt he's seen some weird chit.... you too prolly.... Mellow


nothing as weird as you doing the truffle shuffle in your underwear.
teedubbya Offline
#117 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 2:22 PM EST
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I was in Thailand, playing Ping-Pong in Ding Dang. I was in a real high-stakes game in some opium den. Turned out the guys I was playing aren't the kind of guys who like to lose. After I beat them... they beat me. Worked me over pretty good. And this is hard to say... but they held me down... and they shoved a ping pong paddle up my ass. It's never been the same. I'm damaged goods. Wasn't the handle. I've been ****ting pancakes ever since.
teedubbya Offline
#118 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 2:26 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
.You and I are not so different teedubbya. I've had all kinds of things shoved up my ass. But you know what I did? I got over it!. Mellow


True true
teedubbya Offline
#119 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 2:28 PM EST
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Why did drafter delete his post? I thought it was brave.
victor809 Offline
#120 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 2:29 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Why did drafter delete his post? I thought it was brave.


He musta gotten worried it would attract the wrong kind of attention here
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#121 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 2:30 PM EST
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Mad
teedubbya Offline
#122 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 2:31 PM EST
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I don’t blame him.
teedubbya Offline
#123 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 2:39 PM EST
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Drafter seems upset
delta1 Offline
#124 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 5:20 PM EST
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hey Drafter, I gots some old spare ping pong paddles laying around somewhere...you wants?
RMAN4443 Offline
#125 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 6:08 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
hey Drafter, I gots some old spare ping pong paddles laying around somewhere...you wants?

Just don't ask where he wants you to put them....Anxious
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#126 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 7:08 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Just don't ask where he wants you to put them....Anxious

or where he's been storing them
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#127 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 7:57 PM EST
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Sad
teedubbya Offline
#128 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 8:22 PM EST
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Poor poor pancakeX
izonfire Offline
#129 Posted: Thu, Sep 12 2019, 10:43 PM EST
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Fudge pancakes.

Eeeeeeewwwwww............
teedubbya Offline
#130 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 7:53 AM EST
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Don’t call drafter names.
DrafterX Offline
#131 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 10:22 AM EST
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You're face is a Fudge pancake... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#132 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 11:26 AM EST
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Tell izon you are sorry
izonfire Offline
#133 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 1:07 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Tell izon you are sorry


That he said you're face is a Fudge pancake?
I would think he might wanna apologize to you.

Or your face might wanna apologize to the public.

Or maybe you could display it as a protest.
Maybe along the sidelines at a football game...
teedubbya Offline
#134 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 1:15 PM EST
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You are the one that called him fudge pancakes
delta1 Offline
#135 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 1:32 PM EST
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hmmmmmm.....IHOP sounds good right about now
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#136 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 1:52 PM EST
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I've heard of paddle shifters but never paddle ......never mind.
izonfire Offline
#137 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 1:52 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
You are the one that called him fudge pancakes

Would fudge paddlecakes be better?

delta1 wrote:
hmmmmmm.....IHOP sounds good right about now

Served by Drafter? I wouldn't be surprised if you get a surprise in your stack...
izonfire Offline
#138 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 1:54 PM EST
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Krazeehorse wrote:
I've heard of paddle shifters but never paddle ......never mind.


I heard Vic likes being called "Waddlecakes"
Just what I heard...
izonfire Offline
#139 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 8:04 PM EST
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Had one last thought on the content of this thread -

There were those who were incensed at the thought of certain Democratic leaders being compared to terrorists.
Yet, not so long ago in a previous thread, Trump and his supporters were labelled as Nazis.

Shouldn't this be met with the same type of outrage?

Isn't this just the other side of the same coin???
delta1 Offline
#140 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 8:05 PM EST
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https://www.ihop.com/en/menu/pancakes/chocolate-chocolate-chip-pancakes
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#141 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 8:23 PM EST
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izonfire wrote:
Had one last thought on the content of this thread -

There were those who were incensed at the thought of certain Democratic leaders being compared to terrorists.
Yet, not so long ago in a previous thread, Trump and his supporters were labelled as Nazis.

Shouldn't this be met with the same type of outrage?

Isn't this just the other side of the same coin???


There you go invoking intellectual honesty again. What in the hell are you thinking? d'oh!
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#142 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 8:24 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
https://www.ihop.com/en/menu/pancakes/chocolate-chocolate-chip-pancakes



Drool Drool Drool Drool Drool
Speyside Offline
#143 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 8:48 PM EST
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So answer me this IZON, Trump said there were good people on the white supremicist side. His supporters backed him on this. What Democrat said there were good people on the terrorist side? Nor do I remember any Democratic supporters stating anything similar. If you think there is an equivalency please provide some input to substantiate your position.
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#144 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 8:53 PM EST
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Unless of course Carnack the magnificent is speaking to you from the great beyond. Personally I would find it way more interesting if Andy wasn't stuck in the box and goofing on Elvis and you from Pokipsie. I'll bring the milk and cookies.
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#145 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 9:02 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
So answer me this IZON, Trump said there were good people on the white supremicist side.


That was NOT the “white supremacist” side. Only some were. It was a group protesting the removal of statues.
Just like the protesters of the straight white parade were not all terrorists. Only some were.
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#146 Posted: Fri, Sep 13 2019, 9:06 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Unless of course Carnack the magnificent is speaking to you from the great beyond. Personally I would find it way more interesting if Andy wasn't stuck in the box and goofing on Elvis and you from Pokipsie. I'll bring the milk and cookies.


You know that’s not in your diet. Nor mine. (Cookies anyway)
I’d be happy to join you for a drink and a smoke though.
And yes, yours can be tea. Lavender though.
No chamomile! It’s a palate killer
RMAN4443 Offline
#147 Posted: Sat, Sep 14 2019, 8:42 AM EST
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izonfire wrote:
That was NOT the “white supremacist” side. Only some were. It was a group protesting the removal of statues.
Just like the protesters of the straight white parade were not all terrorists. Only some were.

Applause
Speyside Offline
#148 Posted: Sat, Sep 14 2019, 9:31 AM EST
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Good people don't march with white supremicists or ANTIFA, no matter what the premis of the march. It is a shame that white supremicists, neo Nazi's, and ANTIFA hijacked the protest for their own purposes. Would you march alongside of people shouting anti Semitic slogans? No, you would leave or confront them. Because you are good people. Would I march alongside ANTIFA thugs? No, I would leave or confront them. I would like to think I am a good person, but I leave that up to others to decide.
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#149 Posted: Sat, Sep 14 2019, 9:48 AM EST
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If the dems and their leadership have a subset of their supporters that are terrorists and they are hesitant to denounce terrorism out of fear of losing supporters or any other cutesy reason then I agree with izons scenario and there should be equal outrage.

I just haven’t seen terrorists supporting the party or the leaders like I have the white nationalists. That’s very different than the all trump supporters are white nationalists crap. I’m not saying that and going down that path is disingenuous.

So no, I don’t se the equivalence. It’s a good try though. It just might be possible that the op is stupid and disrespectful towards those that died on 911. I’m not sure why much time would be spent to normalize it or justify it.

And if you do happen to find an equivalence it wouldn’t help the OP. It would shame the equivalence. Both bad rather than making the OP ok.

The OP is among the stupidest posts ever and it is a shame there are idiots that think that way.
teedubbya Offline
#150 Posted: Sat, Sep 14 2019, 9:55 AM EST
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My dad and my in-laws are Trump supporters and are not white nationalists or racists.

If you take a few moments to look at various white nationalists propaganda they do support trump and much of his policy. Some of the language is very similar. Some of the white nationalists rhetoric used to be taboo but has now been mainstreamed intentionally or not. I dunno.

One is a subset of the other. Not vice versa. And none of that changes the stupidity and disrespectful OP. Likely over 50% of those that died on 911 were dems (I don’t know... but the majority were in NYC).
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