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Colin Kaepernick revisited
tailgater Offline
#1 Posted:
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Considering the state of NFL QB's today, Kaepernick should be getting looks from some teams.

What say you?

opelmanta1900 Offline
#2 Posted:
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How many people have played qb in the nfl who no longer play in the nfl but could play if they got the call?

My guess is a lot...

My guess is also that kapernicks call is coming right after Tebow's...
fishinguitarman Offline
#3 Posted:
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He’s not worth it... a distraction

Freakin pre Madonna
Mr. Jones Offline
#4 Posted:
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Put in the "M.U.S.T. Stand during tHE NaTIonAL ANtHEM CLAUSE" at #1 in his contract and
#2 being:
"N.O. duece rights protesting AT ALL OR YOUR FIRED AUTOMATICALLY...
& Clause #3 " YOU GET ONLY WOMENS WAGES FOR BEING A WHINNING BEOTCH and you'll like it.."

THEN MAYBE?
Speyside Offline
#5 Posted:
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Jets
Pittsburgh
Miami
Indianapolis
Washington
Saints
Jacksonville
Carolina


He would/could start there due to injuries/ineptitude.
fishinguitarman Offline
#6 Posted:
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PLEASE not the Saints!
dstieger Offline
#7 Posted:
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Are there over 60 hurt qbs?

Most teams carry 3 plus maybe one practice squad qb, no? At least they used to. That means to me there's some 60 guys who've already been declared as more ready or able or whatever...to start....than Kap, Tebow or anyone else. Right?


Then again, with the QBs bubble boy officiating, you could probably put Favre or Kurt Warner or even Aikman out there to read a d, stand and chuck it better than some of the guys I've watched

How are these guys even getting hurt
teedubbya Offline
#8 Posted:
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He should be playing. There are much bigger divas who are. I never found him great, but he is an upgrade to what is currently playing for many of the teams above.

However..... I think there is another issue with him beyond the kneeling thing. While he is better than many playing, I think his $$ demands are not proportional to his talent. He'd need to come in cheap ie backup dollahs not all pro dallah.

And tebow always sucked as a pro
frankj1 Offline
#9 Posted:
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Comparisons of the fates of Tebow and CK are way off base.

Tebow simply can't throw at an NFL level, and he never could. Period.

He moved on to baseball anyway...total nonsense that he has been blackballed due to religious demonstrations in games. Might have drawn complaints from some of the viewing public and columnists but actually led to much popularity and fame and caught on with positive public mimicking much like the Pete Frates Ice Water Challenge...lots of videos were posted for a couple of years...even led to network TV gigs like a bit he used to do on Good Morning America or some equivalent mainstream network show.
Was playing for a minor league team in the Mets system, at least was still at it early this season...another sport in which he sucked
Never been blackballed anywhere other than the Wiccan Society maybe

So Tebow has had multiple chances in two sports for reasons excluding talent. Has had national television opportunities. All despite kneeling, crossing or whatever else he did, proclaiming his virginity and stuff...a bit much for me but I'd hire him for any job if he could do it.

CK may believe he is a starter level QB, and he is incorrect about that. But he is very likely a far superior option as a 2nd or 3rd string QB to several who are currently forced to be starting this week.
Some are his demands, much has been being blackballed.
rfenst Offline
#10 Posted:
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Leave Tim Tebow alone!
ZRX1200 Offline
#11 Posted:
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He couldn’t beat out BLAINE FUGGING GABBERT......

If he can get a job more power to him. It’s a what have you done for me lately sport. He hasn’t done anything.

And let’s be sure to fail to mention the crap he pulled with the Ravens ownership, THAT is why he won’t get a job other than his wonderful work he does for Nike.
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I forgot why i was boycotting Nike... thanks..!! ThumpUp
tailgater Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
Comparisons of the fates of Tebow and CK are way off base.

Tebow simply can't throw at an NFL level, and he never could. Period.

He moved on to baseball anyway...total nonsense that he has been blackballed due to religious demonstrations in games. Might have drawn complaints from some of the viewing public and columnists but actually led to much popularity and fame and caught on with positive public mimicking much like the Pete Frates Ice Water Challenge...lots of videos were posted for a couple of years...even led to network TV gigs like a bit he used to do on Good Morning America or some equivalent mainstream network show.
Was playing for a minor league team in the Mets system, at least was still at it early this season...another sport in which he sucked
Never been blackballed anywhere other than the Wiccan Society maybe

So Tebow has had multiple chances in two sports for reasons excluding talent. Has had national television opportunities. All despite kneeling, crossing or whatever else he did, proclaiming his virginity and stuff...a bit much for me but I'd hire him for any job if he could do it.

CK may believe he is a starter level QB, and he is incorrect about that. But he is very likely a far superior option as a 2nd or 3rd string QB to several who are currently forced to be starting this week.
Some are his demands, much has been being blackballed.



Your hatred of all things Tebow is duly noted.

I joke, but please don't bring up Tebow's kneeling when we're discussing Kaepernick. Unless you think a personal celebratory kneel/pray is equally egregious to a (supposed) personal protest during the national anthem.

I won't even mention the off field comparison.
One can't contain his love for his God.
The other can't contain his hatred for law enforcement.

OK.
I will mention it.


Kaepernick is a PUNK.
His skill level didn't justify spending money on him considering the PR distraction due to said punk-ness.
But today it probably does.

He's not the devil.
And if TB12 went down for the season I'd take a hard look at him.

But I'm a Pats fan.
I have no soul.



tailgater Offline
#14 Posted:
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Wrong forum, noob!
frankj1 Offline
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I missed where I said I hate Tebow. Even said I'd hire him if he could do the job... I've yet to see what he has mastered career wise, yet he will out earn most of us in his life. But he will likely donate a good chunk too, start philanthropies/foundations, do a lot of good helpful things for other humans with his money and his personal time.
I always found him an appealing person, clean living, dedicated, devoted, good leadership qualities, better morals than me.

My real point is that I believe it is a stretch to think neither is in the NFL now for anything close to the same reasons.
Tebow probably got even more shots in many areas due to the stuff that got him noticed, totally an opposite reaction.
He believes, and believes strongly, I know others of my acquaintance who can match his faith, maybe beat it. No issue for me.

But he is also the face of a brand and there might just be the tiniest bit of marketing...not positive, but not many climb to fame during and after a poor career without at least some publicist's help.
And I'm perfectly OK with that if it is happening. Everyone needs to get paid.

The nation has long accepted displays of religious beliefs in sports. Seems like every home run has the batter either pointing skyward or crossing himself before crossing home plate.
I've seen boxers begin post-bout interviews thanking their Lord and Savior for choosing them to bash in the other person's brains instead of the other way around.
I've also seen Adrian Gonzalez (sp?) kill the competitive mood of a Red Sox team by shrugging off defeat as God's will.
It's all ok by me. But I was happy when AGon was traded!

I have to admit that I do not know very much if anything at all about CK off the field, other than I believe he was adopted by white parents. Which doesn't tell me anything either.
I'm guessing here, but I don't know that he hates police or not, though I am certain he hates what he believes to be his perception of their use of force unnecessarily and disproportionately against his race.

Factually correct or not, he has become probably the most despised athlete I can think of, other than the convicted rapists/killers.

at least we agree that he'd be worth a look if Brady went down!
fishinguitarman Offline
#16 Posted:
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CK needs to be a mortician
tailgater Offline
#17 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
I missed where I said I hate Tebow. !


No.
You missed where I said "I joke"

Bloviate much?


tailgater Offline
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Frank,
You spend 10 minutes trying to convince us that you're "OK" with the religious based displays in sports.
Then you admit that you were glad when the Sox traded Gonzalez.

At the time, AGon was among the best sluggers in baseball.

So why were you glad he was traded?

Can't be his chest-thump and pointing to the sky. You just convinced us that you were OK with it...

Palama Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
I forgot why i was boycotting Nike... thanks..!! ThumpUp


I started my boycott as soon as the dipsheet's comments cancelled the 4th of July shoe. Granted, I don't buy a lotta shoes these days but got my first pair of Sketchers last month and they're great! Also bought some shirts with the Betsy Ross flag to further passive-aggressively counter the dumbchit.
teedubbya Offline
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I boycotted them when I figured out most of their shoes really suck especially for the money..... I've never cared enough about a celebrity one way or another to make purchasing decisions based on them.
fishinguitarman Offline
#21 Posted:
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I don’t like the texture of coconut 🥥
tailgater Offline
#22 Posted:
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I boycott Nike like I boycott sex with voluptuous 25 year old models.


tailgater Offline
#23 Posted:
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And I'm still highly perplexed about the numerous responses regarding coconut.

I never thought about it having a "texture".

I can eat the stuff right outta the bag.
My favorite baked good is a macaroon brownie. (mom's recipe).
Almond Joy is a to 5 candy bar.

But I don't think I've ever had coconut milk.
Hell, I didn't even know coconuts had teets.


teedubbya Offline
#24 Posted:
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have you tried to put a lime in it and mix it all up?
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tailgater wrote:
Frank,
You spend 10 minutes trying to convince us that you're "OK" with the religious based displays in sports.
Then you admit that you were glad when the Sox traded Gonzalez.

At the time, AGon was among the best sluggers in baseball.

So why were you glad he was traded?

Can't be his chest-thump and pointing to the sky. You just convinced us that you were OK with it...


yup, missed the I joke...

There are a lot of religious athletes, odds are I'd dislike at least one of them...sheeesh!

but not because of strong belief as the basis for strength of character. In this case, quite the opposite. He was a selfish stat compiler, but that's different than being a team guy and a winning type player. Some stars do all of the above.

He complained about stuff all the time, he was a locker room divider, and he accepted defeat without a champ's anguish wondering what he could have maybe done differently. Instead he said if God's plan called for them to win last night, they would have won. And he probably never had a sleepless night.

For my money, he did not have the right kind of make up to be a winner. And he used religion as an excuse, not something I can warm up to.

I think the Sox agreed with me. He went in a salary dump for pennies on the dollar...

Glad he was traded for the same reasons I was glad Nomar was traded...it made room for positive attitude team first players...and then some winning happened.
teedubbya Offline
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why does frank hate religious people?
frankj1 Offline
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truthfully, I can't recall AGon ever doing those demonstrative chest thump things.

Probably didn't want to muss up his hair.
frankj1 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
why does frank hate religious people?

it's a Prequel thang
CelticBomber Offline
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Is this thread really about QB's or someone's fantasy football standings?
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tailgater wrote:
And I'm still highly perplexed about the numerous responses regarding coconut.

I never thought about it having a "texture".

I can eat the stuff right outta the bag.
My favorite baked good is a macaroon brownie. (mom's recipe).
Almond Joy is a to 5 candy bar.

But I don't think I've ever had coconut milk.
Hell, I didn't even know coconuts had teets.




Having eaten coconut right out of the shell when I was growing up, I found it odd to eat it out of a bag. Anxious

And yeah, we’d drink the milk out of the shell too.
Speyside Offline
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Conan, why is coconut water so bland? If you know.
dstieger Offline
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CelticBomber wrote:
Is this thread really about QB's or someone's fantasy football standings?


Not hard to imagine a couple in here fantasizing about QB's on their knees
Speyside Offline
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Frank, CK and Tebow were in the exact same situation. Teams keep players that sell them tickets, teams cut players that cost them ticket sales. Tebow plays baseball for the love of sport. He was well paid as an anyalist, baseball, not so much.
tailgater Offline
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Funny.
In a league where the superstars assault women, or worse, the guy people remember hating is the religious virgin.

Still, if my starting QB got injured I'd have that whiny punk Kaepernick on speed dial.



delta1 Offline
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#33 ^ agreed spey...

if CK's abilities were good enough to turn a losing team into a winner, some teams would take a chance that the short term loss of support due to his controversial stand would be overcome by his potential winning record...although his average career QB rating is higher than today's NFL avg, it's only 10 points higher, which doesn't indicate he's a transformative top level talent that teams would gamble on...

but like tail, if I owned a team and needed a mobile QB with a decent arm, I'd sign him and take my chances with that segment of my fan base who might not show up for a bit...
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tailgater wrote:
Funny.
In a league where the superstars assault women, or worse, the guy people remember hating is the religious virgin.

Still, if my starting QB got injured I'd have that whiny punk Kaepernick on speed dial.




who hated Tebow?
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Speyside wrote:
Frank, CK and Tebow were in the exact same situation. Teams keep players that sell them tickets, teams cut players that cost them ticket sales. Tebow plays baseball for the love of sport. He was well paid as an anyalist, baseball, not so much.

I might not understand the entire post, but..
almost, if not every team is sold out for years to come.
And teams could probably still turn a profit on the broadcasting, advertisement, souvenir/clothing, etc. sales without tickets at all.
If they don't sell enough tickets or get a shot at a new facility, they move.

I think Tebow makes more than his minor league salary. Don't recall him as an analyst though.

I love sports. No one is gonna let me stink and be on their roster or payroll, even at the lowest levels of the minors.
Hell, I'd sit on the Celtics' bench, don't even need a uniform, for way below mandated minimum salary.
Bet they'd say no thanks.
delta1 Offline
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here's an article that described what was happening at the height of the kneeling controversy...circa 2016

https://theundefeated.com/features/nfl-viewership-down-and-study-suggests-its-over-protests/
CelticBomber Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
who hated Tebow?



Probably me, I'm sorry.






You could add to that list the condom industry, the people who do paternity tests. Lawyers who sue for child support, Gold diggers, Muslims, his receivers, his own pen1s etc. There are a lot of middlemen that get cut out when the QB is a virgin....
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tailgater wrote:
And I'm still highly perplexed about the numerous responses regarding coconut.

I never thought about it having a "texture".

I can eat the stuff right outta the bag.
My favorite baked good is a macaroon brownie. (mom's recipe).
Almond Joy is a to 5 candy bar.

But I don't think I've ever had coconut milk.
Hell, I didn't even know coconuts had teets.



You know why Jeffrey Dahmer kept a jar of testicles in his refrigerator????

















Because, sometimes you feel like a nut.....Anxious
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delta1 wrote:
here's an article that described what was happening at the height of the kneeling controversy...circa 2016

https://theundefeated.com/features/nfl-viewership-down-and-study-suggests-its-over-protests/

not really that much in the article.
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#42 Posted:
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RMAN4443 wrote:
You know why Jeffrey Dahmer kept a jar of testicles in his refrigerator????

















Because, sometimes you feel like a nut.....Anxious

I always wondered why he did that.
Thanks.
RMAN4443 Offline
#43 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
I always wondered why he did that.
Thanks.

You probably know what they found in his shower......


















Head and Shoulders
frankj1 Offline
#44 Posted:
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you, sir, are like uh idiot.
Thanks.
teedubbya Offline
#45 Posted:
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If you think tebow was never a legitimate nfl AB you hate him and by default you hate him for being religious and virginal.

Heathens.
teedubbya Offline
#46 Posted:
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AB = qb but my phone changed it because apple hates Tebow and thus they hate god.
teedubbya Offline
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I wonder if head and shoulders would help Tebow supporting snowflakes.
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teedubbya wrote:
I wonder if head and shoulders would help Tebow supporting snowflakes.

oooh, good one.

but if God wanted him to have dandruff...well you know the rest. Save your shampoo money.
Speyside Offline
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Frank, he was an SEC anyalist for 2 seasons I think. He also had a prominent role on ESPNS SEC station if my memory is correct. Bottom line, he made teams money, jersey sales, tickets. Are all teams really sold out? I see many empty seats for bad teams.
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frankj1 wrote:
not really that much in the article.


true, but an interesting tidbit from the article:

"a study conducted by Rasmussen Reports shows otherwise. Approximately 1,000 American adults participated in a telephone questionnaire on Oct. 2-3 that revealed nearly one-third (32 percent) are “less likely to watch an NFL game” due to players taking a stand and protesting the national anthem"

this was reflected in the commentary here on CBid among a large number of members who said they'd stop watching the NFL if the players kept kneeling...

http://www.cigarbid.com/...c/posts/655405/kneeling

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