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opelmanta1900 Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 10:22 AM EST
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Little Debbie reject Greta Thunberg was named times person of the year... A child from an upper class Swedish home who skipped a year of school to sail the world in a luxury yacht and chastise world leaders for stealing her childhood...

The person of the year was not:

Hong Kong protesters, who risked and sometimes lost their lives fighting for democracy...

MMA fighter Justin Wren, who risks his life helping disadvantaged tribes in the Congo, rescued a child from bullying, and then took that child around the US to meet other heroes who also aren't Time's person of the year...

Mr. Jones for saving the lottery companies from unclaimed tickets to deal with at tax time...
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 10:31 AM EST
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Well said.

Mr Jones deserves recognition.
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 11:44 AM EST
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If she really believes what she is preaching, maybe she should go to Tiananmen square and proclaim her religion to the Chinese. After that she could go to India. But no, she chastised Americans who have greatly reduced their carbon footprint, and continue to do it day after day. Person of the year? Maybe spoiled angry entitled brat of the year.

David
USNGunner Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 11:46 AM EST
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The media pretty much has lost all semblance of credibility. Time has pretty much jumped the shark.
victor809 Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 11:47 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Little Debbie reject Greta Thunberg was named times person of the year... A child from an upper class Swedish home who skipped a year of school to sail the world in a luxury yacht and chastise world leaders for stealing her childhood...

The person of the year was not:

Hong Kong protesters, who risked and sometimes lost their lives fighting for democracy...

MMA fighter Justin Wren, who risks his life helping disadvantaged tribes in the Congo, rescued a child from bullying, and then took that child around the US to meet other heroes who also aren't Time's person of the year...

Mr. Jones for saving the lottery companies from unclaimed tickets to deal with at tax time...


Meh.... private organization which can name anyone they want person of the year. If you notice they didn't ask any of you for your opinion on it.

They chose her for their own reasons (reasons which none of us will likely know). They could have chosen tiny hands twitler and that would be their prerogative.
victor809 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 11:49 AM EST
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USNGunner wrote:
The media pretty much has lost all semblance of credibility. Time has pretty much jumped the shark.


"The media" is a vague term and that basically makes your entire statement worthless.

Everything you get outside "information" from is media. Yet you seem to think whatever information you believe on a daily basis is credible.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 11:53 AM EST
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never stated who they should or should not have named person of the year... you may have let your own insecurities about our president sneak into my post...


What I did was simply point out the mindset of yet another liberal media organization whose hatred for the president has left them blind to reality...


as far as none of us knowing their reasons for doing so, that's laughable... everyone knows why they did it, even the liberals who pretend they don't...


opelmanta1900 Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 11:54 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
"The media" is a vague term and that basically makes your entire statement worthless.

Everything you get outside "information" from is media. Yet you seem to think whatever information you believe on a daily basis is credible.

do you have CTE? the media is not a vague term in any way shape or form...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 11:54 AM EST
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A mentally disabled dropout child of actor parents reads a prepared statement (of which she didn't write nor research!) scolding adults into whipped little puppies for not kowtowing to the UN, New World Order and Agenda 21 purported "Global Warming", Climate Change" or some other yet moving goalpost buzzword to terrify the media into covering harder than Caitlyn Jenner getting a mani/pedi and wins Time's "Man of the Year" award.

Whoopie and seriously WGAF!?

She shares the award with Adolf Hitler, so Time's arbiter of character and worthiness means less than Eric Swalwell's gaseous explosion on live TV!

In addition to Opel's candidates that didn't win I humbly submit...

Nick Sandman, whom stared down the race baiters and hate driven media wasn't their pick.

Conan, the military hero that chased the cowardly ISIS leader into pulling the ripcord on his explosive vest wasn't their pick.

Boyan Slat, the 26 year old that has invented a number of ways to solve the global problem of plastic removal in our seas wasn't their pick.

When's the last time anyone has ever read a Time magazine? When's the last time anyone has seen a Time magazine?

Yeah. So there's that. What a year, where does the time go.
USNGunner Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 11:59 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
"The media" is a vague term and that basically makes your entire statement worthless.

Everything you get outside "information" from is media. Yet you seem to think whatever information you believe on a daily basis is credible.


And you seem to think that anyone here takes you seriously? Shame on you

Troll. Not talking
victor809 Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 12:01 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
never stated who they should or should not have named person of the year... you may have let your own insecurities about our president sneak into my post...


What I did was simply point out the mindset of yet another liberal media organization whose hatred for the president has left them blind to reality...


as far as none of us knowing their reasons for doing so, that's laughable... everyone knows why they did it, even the liberals who pretend they don't...




I only used twitler as an example of someone I don't like, but wouldn't care if they named him. It had nothing to do with any "reason".

You're the one in sentence two claiming they did this in some relation to twitler.

I'm not dumb enough to assume I know why a huge organization led by a large number of people with varying goals would do something.
victor809 Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 12:04 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
do you have CTE? the media is not a vague term in any way shape or form...


Then define "the media".
Is breitbart part of your definition? Explain why or why not.
Is OANN part of your definition? Explain why or why not.
Is that moronic Prager U part of your definition? Explain why or why not.
Is the idiotic memes posted on facebook by everyone's racist uncle part of the definition? Explain why or why not.

victor809 Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 12:06 PM EST
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USNGunner wrote:
And you seem to think that anyone here takes you seriously? Shame on you

Troll. Not talking


You made a useless generic statement without any actual value and then call me a troll?
Perhaps you should say things more valuable and you'll get better responses.
frankj1 Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 12:14 PM EST
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though it must be well over 20 years since I read Time or Newsweek with any regularity outside of twice a year at the dentist office, I seem to recall that Person of the Year (formerly Man of the Year) has absolutely nothing to do with positive accomplishments but rather the person, in their opinion, who was the most newsworthy...hence the naming of Adolph Hitler one year.

It would be wrong to equate the decision makers with pushing a liberal agenda with the award...I feel funny even calling it an award as it is so meaningless in real value.
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#15 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 12:17 PM EST
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Person of the Year (called Man of the Year or Woman of the Year until 1999) is an annual issue of the United States news magazine Time that features and profiles a person, a group, an idea, or an object that "for better or for worse... has done the most to influence the events of the year".

so everyone can put down their pitchforks and go home.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 12:45 PM EST
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Any notion that this girl has done anything to influence the events of this year is nothing short of a liberal wet dream...
victor809 Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 12:50 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Any notion that this girl has done anything to influence the events of this year is nothing short of a liberal wet dream...


One could say the same thing about every single person mentioned in this thread except twitler.

And you still haven't provided an explanation for what "the media" refers to.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 12:53 PM EST
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I firmly believe that with the exception of one that we're all better than a Liberal's wet dream.
delta1 Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 3:25 PM EST
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further debunking the "liberal " tag, here are other "controversial" or con choices besides Hitler:

Stalin, Kruschev, Ayatollah Khomeini, Nixon (2x), Reagan, GWB
opelmanta1900 Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 3:32 PM EST
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Little Debbie is gonna be pissed if she finds out you think she was chosen for the same reasons Hitler and Stalin were chosen...





Out of curiosity, can anyone name a single thing she did to "to influence the events of the year"? Other than cosmic brownies and fudge rounds...
victor809 Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 3:42 PM EST
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Meh.... name any actual influence either Hong Kong Protesters, Justin Wren or Mr Jones had on the events of this year.

They did things. But the world didn't change because they did things. They actually exerted no real influence.

Your argument is empty because your choices aren't actually any better. You perceive them as better because they're more meaningful to you. But nothing has actually changed due to any of the actions.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 3:46 PM EST
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Nonsense to the core...

The extradition bill was actually retracted as a result of the Hong Kong protests...

Pygmy tribes actually drank fresh water and lived instead of dying as a result as Wren's actions and a teenage boy who was being bullied didn't kill himself...

I won't even get started on Jones cuz if you don't get that one you're a lost cause...
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#23 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 3:46 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Little Debbie is gonna be pissed if she finds out you think she was chosen for the same reasons Hitler and Stalin were chosen...





Out of curiosity, can anyone name a single thing she did to "to influence the events of the year"? Other than cosmic brownies and fudge rounds...


they were included to illustrate the wide scope of people "honored" for their impact on global events for a given year, to disprove the con narrative that there is a "liberal" slant to this award...because of the perception of Time's position among the liberal biased media...


seems Climate Change is a bigger deal to the rest of the world than it is to Trump's con audience, and Thunberg apparently got a lot of face time at world events dealing with the threat.
victor809 Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 3:54 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Nonsense to the core...

The extradition bill was actually retracted as a result of the Hong Kong protests...

yes. And I'm sure that this will have long lasting impact [eyeroll]. China has literally moved troops and started riot drills for them. Withdrawing the bill doesn't mean they've changed the minds of the people in power. It just means they forestalled the inevitable for a little longer.

Quote:

Pygmy tribes actually drank fresh water and lived instead of dying as a result as Wren's actions and a teenage boy who was being bullied didn't kill himself...
neither of these things have a measurable impact on the world.
Saving pygmy tribes that don't interact with the world is not going to influence the world. That's like saving drafter's invisible canadian girlfriend's life. A single teenage boy living or dying is not a statistical influence, otherwise literally millions of people will qualify.
Quote:

I won't even get started on Jones cuz if you don't get that one you're a lost cause...


what jones has done to influence the world goes beyond all measure but the SSG won't let anyone report on it.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 4:06 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Out of curiosity, can anyone name a single thing she did to "to influence the events of the year"? Other than cosmic brownies and fudge rounds...



Caused Time magazine to chop down more trees to print their rag, not to mention the fuel charges to deliver it wherever it's sold or delivered!!! GASP!

Imagine the Carbon Footprint being used by all to go get Time magazine and have it being delivered!!!! GASP!!!


How's THAT FOR "INFLUENCING"!
delta1 Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 4:07 PM EST
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Trump will prolly have to print another batch of Time magazine covers with his face for his adoring fans...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 4:09 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Trump will prolly have to print another batch of Time magazine covers with his face for his adoring fans...



Make that 2!whip
opelmanta1900 Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 4:10 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
yes. And I'm sure that this will have long lasting impact [eyeroll]. China has literally moved troops and started riot drills for them. Withdrawing the bill doesn't mean they've changed the minds of the people in power. It just means they forestalled the inevitable for a little longer.

neither of these things have a measurable impact on the world.
Saving pygmy tribes that don't interact with the world is not going to influence the world. That's like saving drafter's invisible canadian girlfriend's life. A single teenage boy living or dying is not a statistical influence, otherwise literally millions of people will qualify.


what jones has done to influence the world goes beyond all measure but the SSG won't let anyone report on it.

People are the world... all of them...


except Jones... those records have been destroyed...
victor809 Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 4:16 PM EST
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Poor jones
frankj1 Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 5:14 PM EST
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a yearly marketing tradition to increase sales...that's about the level of meaning and importance this award has.
It's really no reason for cons to go nuts.
frankj1 Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 5:15 PM EST
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no one complained when I was named People Magazine's Sexiest Man of the Year.
delta1 Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 7:09 PM EST
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did the cover have a close-up of your head?
frankj1 Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 7:14 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
did the cover have a close-up of your head?

they tried to get both so had to back waaay up.
the first, and maybe only, 4 page fold out though.
delta1 Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 9:00 PM EST
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lol
frankj1 Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 9:27 PM EST
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no, seriously!







HA!
delta1 Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 10:41 PM EST
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gulp........................... 4 page fold out???

at 8" per page...

life size or shrink to fit?
frankj1 Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 10:51 PM EST
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better you don't know.
wouldn't you rather sleep well tonight?
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#38 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 3:54 AM EST
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Don't worry, orange tiny hands has fake Time magazine covers printed up and he hangs them all over the place. (He really does)
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#39 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 7:12 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
they were included to illustrate the wide scope of people "honored" for their impact on global events for a given year, to disprove the con narrative that there is a "liberal" slant to this award...because of the perception of Time's position among the liberal biased media...


seems Climate Change is a bigger deal to the rest of the world than it is to Trump's con audience, and Thunberg apparently got a lot of face time at world events dealing with the threat.



"climate change" or "man made climate change"?

"Man made climate change" is a farce!

"Climate change" is a real thing. Been happening since earth's existence. If you think there's anything, ANYTHING, we
humans can do to alter, change or slow down "climate change" I have a bridge to sell you. I'll give you a really good deal.

Before any of you "climate change" alarmists tell me how stupid I am please read a book on the subject. If you have read a
book on the subject please do tell the title and author.

The polar bears are THRIVING!
victor809 Offline
#40 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 10:38 AM EST
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You first.

(ps... most real science doesn't end up in books for a year or two. If you want to impress anyone, please post the scientific literature you've read).
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#41 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 11:33 AM EST
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#23 yes it is because “climate change” is a rouse to redistribute wealth so of course the rest of the world is supporting crippling the greatest country in the world.
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#42 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 12:13 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You first.

(ps... most real science doesn't end up in books for a year or two. If you want to impress anyone, please post the scientific literature you've read).


I've mentioned "climate change" books on here before. The very best and easiest to read is

Inconvenient Facts: The science Al Gore Doesn't Want you To Know by Gregory Wrightstone. Written in a way even liberals
can understand.

The only person I need to impress is my wife. I wish it were on a nightly basis but some of you know what it's like to have
been married for a while.

Now, if you are arguing my statements about "man made climate change" I'll save the nicest bridge for you. I'll give you a
really good deal. REALLY good!
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#43 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 12:33 PM EST
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Bumblebee395 wrote:
I've mentioned climate change "books" on here before. The very best and easiest to read is

Inconvenient Facts: The science Al Gore Doesn't Want you To Know by Gregory Wrightstone. Written in a way even liberals
can understand.

The only person I need to impress is my wife. I wish it were on a nightly basis but some of you know what it's like to have
been married for a while.

Now, if you are arguing my statements about "man made climate change" I'll save the nicest bridge for you. I'll give you a
really good deal. REALLY good!


FIFY
I just dug through the gregory wrightstone website on that book.
I think your biggest problem is you need something that's "easy to read". Maybe if you read something more technical you would actually get correct information.
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#44 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 12:52 PM EST
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follow the money...also easy to read.
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#45 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 1:45 PM EST
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I read more of this guy's website.
He blatantly lies to his readers (citing data that is not from where he claims), he doesn't do the simplest of analysis of the data he presents (and hopes that his readers won't dig in and read the source material)... It appears that he doesn't actually read the articles he is refuting, or is hoping that his readers don't read them, because his arguments are not even based on the information presented in the papers.

This guy is bunk. He probably should be on Prager U. Hell, he probably was on Prager U.
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#46 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 1:57 PM EST
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An easy example of how he lies to his audience is in his section on "Heat & Life, Cold & Death" in which he is claiming to refute an article published in The Lancet on the health impact of temperature change.
Ignoring the many, many other problems in his section, let's look specifically at the premise of the Lancet article. The lancet article states that changes in temperature will lead to a number of factors globally which will increase human deaths. Drought, food shortages, spread of infectious disease, etc... primarily in low-to-middle income countries. His response is that it must be false because there has been a decrease in deaths due to heat stroke in European countries.

Note... European countries for the most part aren't falling in the low-to-middle income countries. They are not anywhere close to an adequate representation.
Secondly, note he is trying to refute an article identifying indirect impacts of climate change by saying it must be false because this direct impact (which is easily fixed in wealthy countries with an air conditioning unit) did not occur.
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#47 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 4:03 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
do you have CTE? the media is not a vague term in any way shape or form...


Did you just politely ask Victor if he was a 'tard?
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#48 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 4:07 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Did you just politely ask Victor if he was a 'tard?


No he asked if I was on the Committee on Trade and the Environment, because my answers were so cogent, he assumed I must be a professional in the industry.

You didn't clearly get that from the context, ya 'tard? Anxious
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#49 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 4:17 PM EST
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LOL, okay... that was good.
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#50 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 4:18 PM EST
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I have my moments.
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