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Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 11:33 AM EST
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I just ran across these on some other site. 6x52 torpedo. Crojo wrapper, Ecuadorian binder and DR filler, in a glass tube. I may have to pickup a 3 pack for election night 2020.

David
delta1 Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 3:12 PM EST
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what are they selling for?

given his popularity, they will become collector's items, so grab a bunch...
victor809 Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 3:46 PM EST
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If it's anything like the other merch his campaign has put out, I'm gonna assume it's made in china.

But delta's right... it'll probably become a collectors item. Because we live in the dumbest timeline.
jespear Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Dec 12 2019, 4:03 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
what are they selling for?

given his popularity, they will become collector's items, so grab a bunch...


If it's more than $6.00 / 3 pack, I doubt Mr Newell will buy them . . . BUT, knowing HIM, he'll find a way to get them below that.
Bumblebee395 Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 6:49 AM EST
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There were two 2016 cigars that I know of.

One made by Ted's cigars that came in a glass tube...which was not bad at all.

The other made for Gurkha which was very good.

By the way, neither "made in China".
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 8:37 AM EST
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I gave away a couple of the 2016s.. i think I still have one.. Think
nitro6526 Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 10:24 AM EST
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And what exactly is the point Victor? To go into a cigar discussion post about cigars and spew your vitriol because it is attached to Trumps name? Therefore inferior in your mind like Chinese products?
Give up your chinese made products, or stfu, but your bias and animosity is becoming tiring and old
victor809 Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 10:30 AM EST
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nitro6526 wrote:
And what exactly is the point Victor? To go into a cigar discussion post about cigars and spew your vitriol because it is attached to Trumps name? Therefore inferior in your mind like Chinese products?
Give up your chinese made products, or stfu, but your bias and animosity is becoming tiring and old


"Inferior in my mind like Chinese products"?
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

It's well known that most items sold by the trump2020 campaign are made in china. This is a trump2020 product. Therefore it is an amusing poke to suggest that, like the other trump2020 products, is made in china.

The hilarious part is that in general, I have no problem with chinese products (not cigars). You assume I do. I never said I had a problem with chinese products. Trump is the one who has a problem with chinese manufacturing. If you want to jump on someone for giving up chinese made products, go talk to twitler.
USNGunner Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 10:42 AM EST
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nitro6526 wrote:
And what exactly is the point Victor? To go into a cigar discussion post about cigars and spew your vitriol because it is attached to Trumps name? Therefore inferior in your mind like Chinese products?
Give up your chinese made products, or stfu, but your bias and animosity is becoming tiring and old


This. I avoid the political forum because of his nonsensical BS. Now he's trolling in the regular forums. I set the troll to ignore and I'm just done with it. Him and Chaos. Birds of a feather. Brick wall
victor809 Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 10:47 AM EST
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USNGunner wrote:
This. I avoid the political forum because of his nonsensical BS. Now he's trolling in the regular forums. I set the troll to ignore and I'm just done with it. Him and Chaos. Birds of a feather. Brick wall


Only the weak use the "ignore" feature.

And this thread was political from the start. Posting that he's going to pick up Trump2020 cigars to smoke at election night. He knew what sort of response he was going to get. One could make the argument that it was a pretty tame, non confrontational thread with some simple joking until nitro and you got here.
nitro6526 Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 10:51 AM EST
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My reading comprehension is just fine. That is what necessitated the post in a cigar forum, about cigars that are attached to the President, requiring you to make your usual crap answer.
We get it. You do not like the President. Either keep it out of the cigar discussion or stfu. Pretty simple actually
victor809 Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 10:54 AM EST
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Like I said above. This was a pretty tame thread until you showed up and started claiming all sorts of nonsense that was never said.
nitro6526 Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 11:04 AM EST
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Okay. Yeah cool story

We get it. Your liberal, (ex) California self cannot fathom someone having a discussion about cigars that does necessitate your bias. Clearly stating: Because we live in the dumbest timeline.Totally tame until someone tells you that a discussion about cigars does not require you to add your filth. Easy as discuss the cigar or STFU
victor809 Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 11:13 AM EST
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Would you rather I had said "Wrong forum noob"? Because let's face it, when the OP is stating they're going to be smoking Trump2020 cigars on election night, they started a thread with a political bias. Just because you don't look at that as political bias, but rather look at my disappointment ("we live in the dumbest timeline") of the original statement as bias isn't really my problem. That's more a you problem.

Instead you want to pretend this thread didn't start as political. Because you're blind to anything other than "those evil libs".

I'll be nice. I'll try to talk this through with you in a way that shouldn't be as polarizing. We'll look at it as sports.

If DP had posted "I've got my victory cigars ready to smoke for when the Red Sox win the Superbowl this year!" it would not be illogical for someone to post a response bashing the Red Sox. I mean, maybe they're a Lakers fan and think it's a travesty that the Red Sox flop constantly on the field to try to get fouls called. So they're going to say something like "The red sox may win the superbowl, but that's just because everything is crap this year". The OP brought that comment on. They started the conversation.



ZRX1200 Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 11:24 AM EST
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“Therefore it is an amusing poke”

Oh Victor how the mighty have fallen......
nitro6526 Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 11:25 AM EST
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I am gonna walk you through this real slow then......

Not one political word said until you opened your Liberal pie hole and added your comments. The comments were based on size, origin, and price.

The only political thing written is by you. You make it political because you assume it.
victor809 Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 11:27 AM EST
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nitro6526 wrote:
I am gonna walk you through this real slow then......

Not one political word said until you opened your Liberal pie hole and added your comments. The comments were based on size, origin, and price.

The only political thing written is by you. You make it political because you assume it.


Ummmm
" I may have to pickup a 3 pack for election night 2020"

You don't smoke a Trump 2020 cigar on election night unless you are suggesting you believe trump will win.
Now, I don't think that's a very controversial statement. But it is a political statement.

If he says he believes trump will win in 2020, I would think I would be allowed to comment on trump winning in 2020
frankj1 Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 1:05 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Would you rather I had said "Wrong forum noob"? Because let's face it, when the OP is stating they're going to be smoking Trump2020 cigars on election night, they started a thread with a political bias. Just because you don't look at that as political bias, but rather look at my disappointment ("we live in the dumbest timeline") of the original statement as bias isn't really my problem. That's more a you problem.

Instead you want to pretend this thread didn't start as political. Because you're blind to anything other than "those evil libs".

I'll be nice. I'll try to talk this through with you in a way that shouldn't be as polarizing. We'll look at it as sports.

If DP had posted "I've got my victory cigars ready to smoke for when the Red Sox win the Superbowl this year!" it would not be illogical for someone to post a response bashing the Red Sox. I mean, maybe they're a Lakers fan and think it's a travesty that the Red Sox flop constantly on the field to try to get fouls called. So they're going to say something like "The red sox may win the superbowl, but that's just because everything is crap this year". The OP brought that comment on. They started the conversation.




why do you hate sports?

great post.
HA!
jespear Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 2:51 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Would you rather I had said "Wrong forum noob"? Because let's face it, when the OP is stating they're going to be smoking Trump2020 cigars on election night, they started a thread with a political bias. Just because you don't look at that as political bias, but rather look at my disappointment ("we live in the dumbest timeline") of the original statement as bias isn't really my problem. That's more a you problem.

Instead you want to pretend this thread didn't start as political. Because you're blind to anything other than "those evil libs".

I'll be nice. I'll try to talk this through with you in a way that shouldn't be as polarizing.We'll look at it as sports.

If DP had posted "I've got my victory cigars ready to smoke for when the Red Sox win the Superbowl this year!" it would not be illogical for someone to post a response bashing the Red Sox. I mean, maybe they're a Lakers fan and think it's a travesty that the Red Sox flop constantly on the field to try to get fouls called. So they're going to say something like "The red sox may win the superbowl, but that's just because everything is crap this year".The OP brought that comment on. They started the conversation.





frankj1 wrote:
why do you hate sports?

great post.
Not great, but not bad, either
HA!



As much as I hate to admit it, I have to give Vicky his just due on this one. (Well, on the highlighted section, at least.)
When I got to THAT part of the post, I had both barrels locked and loaded, ready to blast him for his lack of knowledge about sports, but by the time I finished, I realized that he wrote it completely TIC.
Not bad, Victor. Not bad at all.
Whistlebritches Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 8:50 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Would you rather I had said "Wrong forum noob"? Because let's face it, when the OP is stating they're going to be smoking Trump2020 cigars on election night, they started a thread with a political bias. Just because you don't look at that as political bias, but rather look at my disappointment ("we live in the dumbest timeline") of the original statement as bias isn't really my problem. That's more a you problem.

Instead you want to pretend this thread didn't start as political. Because you're blind to anything other than "those evil libs".

I'll be nice. I'll try to talk this through with you in a way that shouldn't be as polarizing. We'll look at it as sports.

If DP had posted "I've got my victory cigars ready to smoke for when the Red Sox win the Superbowl this year!" it would not be illogical for someone to post a response bashing the Red Sox. I mean, maybe they're a Lakers fan and think it's a travesty that the Red Sox flop constantly on the field to try to get fouls called. So they're going to say something like "The red sox may win the superbowl, but that's just because everything is crap this year". The OP brought that comment on. They started the conversation.





Alright Vicky while I agree with Nitro I would like to add...…..Leave my **** ing Red Sox out of this.They had a tough season last year.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Dec 13 2019, 9:30 PM EST
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You Will Suffer Humiliation When The Sports Team From My Area Defeats The Sports Team From Your Area:

https://local.theonion.com/you-will-suffer-humiliation-when-the-sports-team-from-m-1819583814
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Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 6:17 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Would you rather I had said "Wrong forum noob"? Because let's face it, when the OP is stating they're going to be smoking Trump2020 cigars on election night, they started a thread with a political bias. Just because you don't look at that as political bias, but rather look at my disappointment ("we live in the dumbest timeline") of the original statement as bias isn't really my problem. That's more a you problem.

Instead you want to pretend this thread didn't start as political. Because you're blind to anything other than "those evil libs".

I'll be nice. I'll try to talk this through with you in a way that shouldn't be as polarizing. We'll look at it as sports.

If DP had posted "I've got my victory cigars ready to smoke for when the Red Sox win the Superbowl this year!" it would not be illogical for someone to post a response bashing the Red Sox. I mean, maybe they're a Lakers fan and think it's a travesty that the Red Sox flop constantly on the field to try to get fouls called. So they're going to say something like "The red sox may win the superbowl, but that's just because everything is crap this year". The OP brought that comment on. They started the conversation.




Except, Victor, I did not say "I've got my victory cigars ready to smoke for when Trump wins re-election next year." That may be what you read, but it's not what I said. What I said was "I may have to pick up some for election night", which was meant as a tongue in cheek statement. This is the main reason I now try to avoid the political board.

David
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 6:19 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
what are they selling for?

given his popularity, they will become collector's items, so grab a bunch...


Al, they are around $24 a 3 pack, so you know for sure That I won't be buying any.

David
victor809 Offline
#24 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 8:41 PM EST
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Don't play cute dp... It's not becoming.
The whole thread started political. You're talking about buying cigars branded with a political party's campaign, to smoke on election night.

I don't even care... But that opens the post up to statements about said politician. Don't get me wrong, you didn't complain about my comments (which were also pretty tongue in cheek until nitro started acting like a snowflake...)
delta1 Offline
#25 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 9:04 PM EST
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Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
Al, they are around $24 a 3 pack, so you know for sure That I won't be buying any.

David


knowing your cigar reconnaissance skills, I have no doubt you'll find some for half that...then, the question becomes: do I want to over-pay?

I was not kidding when I thought that they may become collector's items, "worth" more than current retail after Trump leaves office...his years as POTUS have been/will be historic and his supporters are fiercely loyal, so there will be a market for the cigars among his many followers...
Whistlebritches Offline
#26 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 10:59 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
knowing your cigar reconnaissance skills, I have no doubt you'll find some for half that...then, the question becomes: do I want to over-pay?

I was not kidding when I thought that they may become collector's items, "worth" more than current retail after Trump leaves office...his years as POTUS have been/will be historic and his supporters are fiercely loyal, so there will be a market for the cigars among his many followers...


Kind of like Billy Beer huh?
Tittums Offline
#27 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2019, 11:05 PM EST
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I am amused by some of the replies here. Instead of going all political let's just remember these cigars are hardly political. They're a gimmick to make a quick buck. There were Bernie and Hillary cigars as well. Based on the reviews of the liquor based cigars I question if any of them are even good.
victor809 Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 10:13 AM EST
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Tittums wrote:
I am amused by some of the replies here. Instead of going all political let's just remember these cigars are hardly political. They're a gimmick to make a quick buck. There were Bernie and Hillary cigars as well. Based on the reviews of the liquor based cigars I question if any of them are even good.


And if someone started talking about bernie or hillary cigars and smoking them on election night, I would argue that anyone would be appropriate in commenting on the quality of candidate bernie or hillary was, or whether they thought they would win, or whether the cigars came from an intern's vag...

the cigars themselves are political. They...intentionally.... have... a .... politician's... campaign .... as... a.... name.
Taken a step further, saying you would smoke them on the most political night....

But again... the only person who threw a fit was nitro. I don't blame DP for posting this, I think it's an amusing conversation. DP is a big boy, he can manage having people poke fun at chinese trump 2020 cigars.
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#29 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 10:15 AM EST
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jespear wrote:
As much as I hate to admit it, I have to give Vicky his just due on this one. (Well, on the highlighted section, at least.)
When I got to THAT part of the post, I had both barrels locked and loaded, ready to blast him for his lack of knowledge about sports, but by the time I finished, I realized that he wrote it completely TIC.
Not bad, Victor. Not bad at all.


What's sad, is I really have such a low knowledge of sports it was difficult for me to come up with references to 3 different sports.
fishinguitarman Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 10:35 AM EST
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Wrong forum dumbazz. Trolling everywhere now I see

Get back under your bridge
jespear Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 12:33 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
What's sad, is I really have such a low knowledge of sports it was difficult for me to come up with references to 3 different sports.



THIS, I know . . . Which is why I thought it warranted some acknowledgement.
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#32 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 12:46 PM EST
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jespear wrote:
THIS, I know . . . Which is why I thought it warranted some acknowledgement.


Hehehe.... maybe someday someone will start a topic about math or science....



...sigh.... no they wont.
Tittums Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 12:51 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
And if someone started talking about bernie or hillary cigars and smoking them on election night, I would argue that anyone would be appropriate in commenting on the quality of candidate bernie or hillary was, or whether they thought they would win, or whether the cigars came from an intern's vag...

the cigars themselves are political. They...intentionally.... have... a .... politician's... campaign .... as... a.... name.
Taken a step further, saying you would smoke them on the most political night....

But again... the only person who threw a fit was nitro. I don't blame DP for posting this, I think it's an amusing conversation. DP is a big boy, he can manage having people poke fun at chinese trump 2020 cigars.


I honestly walked into this thread hoping to hear opinions on the cigars themselves rather than what is on their band. There are some mixed opinions about all the cigars on the site that is selling these. I still see them as a gimmick more than political. They are selling gimmicky Maker's Mark cigars and what not when there is no money in politics.
dstieger Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 12:52 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Hehehe.... maybe someday someone will start a topic about math or science....



...sigh.... no they wont.

http://www.cigarbid.com/...little-help#post4459782

go help this poor dude
Tittums Offline
#35 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 12:53 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Hehehe.... maybe someday someone will start a topic about math or science....



...sigh.... no they wont.


I started a topic on testing the water vapor transfer rate of the thing air pillows used as packing material. I am no scientist but it seems sciencey to me. I am just a guy trying to make cheap home made Boveda packs.
Tittums Offline
#36 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 12:53 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
http://www.cigarbid.com/Forum/c/posts/m/4459782/A-little-help#post4459782

go help this poor dude


Hahha, ffs, I just posted about that after you.
victor809 Offline
#37 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 12:56 PM EST
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Tittums wrote:
I honestly walked into this thread hoping to hear opinions on the cigars themselves rather than what is on their band. There are some mixed opinions about all the cigars on the site that is selling these. I still see them as a gimmick more than political. They are selling gimmicky Maker's Mark cigars and what not when there is no money in politics.


I think a couple people posted that they weren't bad...
I do not know what the quality would be, I'm going to expect that it will be lower quality than the pricing would otherwise indicate, because they're branding them and paying someone royalties.

I mean, if they took generic $5 cigars and slapped a promotional label on them, they're planning on selling them for more than the $5 they would be worth without it.
victor809 Offline
#38 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 12:57 PM EST
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Tittums wrote:
I started a topic on testing the water vapor transfer rate of the thing air pillows used as packing material. I am no scientist but it seems sciencey to me. I am just a guy trying to make cheap home made Boveda packs.


Hehe, saw that.
delta1 Offline
#39 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 2:04 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Kind of like Billy Beer huh?


sorta...but that one was a dud, because it was his doofus brother trying to cash in...

now if someone made a Clinton cigar with a blue dress on the band (picture the Tatuaje Whore label) that would've been the ticket, if marketed right after his acquittal in the Senate...his popularity hits its peak, then...

(I know...wrong forum.................. but the train left the station already)
delta1 Offline
#40 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 2:25 PM EST
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wonder if there are torceadors who can roll Trump cigars in the shape of a middle finger, his signature salute to his enemies...those would sell like hot-cakes...
tonygraz Offline
#41 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 6:49 PM EST
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Maybe a shaggy white tail on them would be better.
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#42 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2019, 9:33 PM EST
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So because someone states they are going to buy cigars put out by a candidate it makes the post political? Following that logic he would need post in politics if he were offering them for trade?

Yep, that’s certainly deserving of the dumbest timeline.
fishinguitarman Offline
#43 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 5:43 AM EST
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It makes it political when our local village idiot trolls in here and makes it so
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#44 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 8:27 AM EST
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Barf.
victor809 Offline
#45 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 10:24 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
So because someone states they are going to buy cigars put out by a candidate it makes the post political? Following that logic he would need post in politics if he were offering them for trade?

Yep, that’s certainly deserving of the dumbest timeline.


Not what made it political anthony. I already stated what made it a political post. Not going to repeat myself because you didn't want to read it.
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#46 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 11:37 AM EST
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fishinguitarman wrote:
It makes it political when our local village idiot trolls in here and makes it so


This. Trolls can't just walk away. Them being the smartest troll under the bridge and all. d'oh!
victor809 Offline
#47 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 12:04 PM EST
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USNGunner wrote:
This. Trolls can't just walk away. Them being the smartest troll under the bridge and all. d'oh!


There's a real deep irony here given you're quoting someone I don't interact with who just can't stop following me around and talking about me.
fishinguitarman Offline
#48 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 7:39 PM EST
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Oh and you don’t troll?

You’re a very sick person
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#49 Posted: Fri, Dec 20 2019, 8:00 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Not what made it political anthony. I already stated what made it a political post. Not going to repeat myself because you didn't want to read it.


I read it very carefully, hence the comment.
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#50 Posted: Wed, Jan 1 2020, 3:35 AM EST
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get 'em now before they're gone!

https://tedscigars.com/products/the-trump-2020-victory-cigar-3-pack
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