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Right off the truck vs. patience and rest
Dg west deptford Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 05-25-2019
Posts: 45
Looking for advice on how to control myself when you get a delivery of premiums
MACS Offline
#2 Posted:
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Dg west deptford wrote:
Looking for advice on how to control myself when you get a delivery of premiums


That's easy. You have plenty of stock on hand from which to smoke.

Then you let the new stuff hang out for a couple weeks.
USNGunner Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 05-17-2019
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Dude, they're your cigars. Fire away. BigGrin

I have found though that right out of the mailbox, they generally don't burn as well and taste, well, not ready.

Pull one or two, bed the rest. Forget about it.

It's tough. But once you get a little stash built up, it's easier. I have several cabs of tats and several boxes of Fuentes I have not even opened. Just buried them to let them rest. Well, I gifted a few, but other than that they're in the humi at 65/65 sleeping and getting better.

But, you are king, of when they're ready for smoking. The czar of your cigars. The knight of when to light. Yeah, luckily, while we yearn to burn, it is by the burn we learn.

Have a go. Make notes, press on.
Palama Online
#4 Posted:
Joined: 02-05-2013
Posts: 13,221
Dg west deptford wrote:
Looking for advice on how to control myself when you get a delivery of premiums


Some good advice in the above posts. ^^^

Back when I first got into cigars, I made the nOOb mistake of taking a couple of recently arrived Short Stories to Vegas and lit one up as we were killing time waiting to check in. Iirc, they were the first SS I had ever won and although I had normally put my shipments away for at least 3 weeks, this time I had no self-restraint. They were terrible. Harsh and yet flat as anything. It was so bad I almost swore off Cameroon wrappers but later realized I had fugged up by smoking them too soon. A lesson learned and I would never again smoke anything from an online vendor without proper rest.
Dg west deptford Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 05-25-2019
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I should've smoked my Balmorals or RoMa Crafts or Padrons thatve been resting instead of my newly delivered boutique's but self control isn't a strong suit.
deadeyedick Offline
#6 Posted:
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Many years ago I opened a new box of Fuente Sharks and found mold. They used to ship with a HumiPac in each box. That has changed but I always at least open and inspect every box when it arrives. If it's a Cuban box, I will smoke one to make a note of how long before I try another.
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#7 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
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no one can fix this but you.
put on your big boy pants and follow Nancy's advice...just say no
USNGunner Offline
#8 Posted:
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deadeyedick wrote:
Many years ago I opened a new box of Fuente Sharks and found mold. They used to ship with a HumiPac in each box. That has changed but I always at least open and inspect every box when it arrives. If it's a Cuban box, I will smoke one to make a note of how long before I try another.


Dang it Rick. That is one thing I wasn't worried about. d'oh!

Now I have to go play tetris. Crap. Better safe than sorry I guess. Frying pan
borndead1 Offline
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USNGunner wrote:
Dang it Rick. That is one thing I wasn't worried about. d'oh!

Now I have to go play tetris. Crap. Better safe than sorry I guess. Frying pan



Check your tubos and dress boxes of CCs every few months. Literally EVERY mold problem I've ever had has been with tubos and dress boxes.
USNGunner Offline
#10 Posted:
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borndead1 wrote:
Check your tubos and dress boxes of CCs every few months. Literally EVERY mold problem I've ever had has been with tubos and dress boxes.


I'm good on those. I don't have any tubos, and my cc's are all in trays in the winador. I'm going to keep an eye on the coffins I have though. Thanks.
Whistlebritches Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 04-23-2006
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deadeyedick wrote:
Many years ago I opened a new box of Fuente Sharks and found mold. They used to ship with a HumiPac in each box. That has changed but I always at least open and inspect every box when it arrives. If it's a Cuban box, I will smoke one to make a note of how long before I try another.



All good advice but this^ and what I'm about to lay on you is extremely important.The inspection of every 5'r or box should be followed by a 72 hour frozen nap.You may see a beetle hole in a cigar.....I've seen them bore all the way thru cellophane however their eggs laid deep within the tobacco are undetectable.Place the 5'r/whole box in a sealable bag then toss them in the freezer.This kills any beetles along with any stowaway eggs/It's a one time treatment...……...nothing enters my humidor without going thru this process regardless of it's source.As your stash grows you'll be glad you did...…..cheap insurance from beetles is the way I see it and after retrieving them from the freezer a nice humid nap is then in order...…….helps you keep your hands off of them.Most sticks I lay down for minimum 6 months but many I know it will be years before I touch them.As you progress you'll figure out which ones benefit the most from a long nap.
Whistlebritches Offline
#12 Posted:
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borndead1 wrote:
Check your tubos and dress boxes of CCs every few months. Literally EVERY mold problem I've ever had has been with tubos and dress boxes.



I'd add cedar sleeve wrapped sticks to this list as well.All my Fuente SG's have the sleeve removed....I had a problem once.
USNGunner Offline
#13 Posted:
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Whistlebritches wrote:
I'd add cedar sleeve wrapped sticks to this list as well.All my Fuente SG's have the sleeve removed....I had a problem once.


Crap. Just got a box of 858 sun grown. You guys are killing me here.

Damned if I don't appreciate it.
KingoftheCove Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 10-08-2011
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Dg west deptford wrote:
Looking for advice on how to control myself when you get a delivery of premiums

The obvious answer.....
Send them to me..................I'll send them back when they're ready.
Whistlebritches Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 04-23-2006
Posts: 18,663
USNGunner wrote:
Crap. Just got a box of 858 sun grown. You guys are killing me here.

Damned if I don't appreciate it.



I usually just randomly inspect 3-4 out of the box maybe once a year.If I find even one with that fake plume I pull all the sleeves and re-box them.For some reason the Fuente SG wrappers wrapped in cedar are bad about growing a light mold.Never had to toss one it usually is on the wrapper and just wipes right off.


Good luck
opelmanta1900 Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 01-10-2012
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personally, I like em fresh off the truck... they just got here, they wanna stay, and they're willing to work hard to prove themselves...
ZRX1200 Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
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Here’s some great advice:

Buy a lot.

Then you can smoke a lot and still have a lot.

I’m a problem solver
Mr. Jones Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 06-12-2005
Posts: 11,391
Anything with the name "fuma" in the title...

Which are ALMOST ALWaYS left over clippings rolled into cheaper cigars..."sandwich" type cigars...

A.L.L. need to sleep in the humidor no less than 6 months...
Preferably 12 months...

Never smoke FUMA's R.O.T.T. !!!!
Dg west deptford Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 05-25-2019
Posts: 45
Great advice and info from all thanks so much. I'm going to need a bigger humidor to accomplish this mission. Still open to detailed nuance on what I miss by not waiting. Gonna start taking notes. I also need recommendations on larger count powered humidor and where to buy (if kosher for forum rules) I've been looking on Amazon. Currently I have a 200 count box humidor with a 60 gram 69rh boveda pack but it's at capacity (the lid barely closes)so I have a large freezer Ziploc bag on top with a small boveda pack in it. My lunch cooler is about to get stuffed with cigars. Do I have a problem or is this normal?
USNGunner Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 05-17-2019
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Dg west deptford wrote:
Great advice and info from all thanks so much. I'm going to need a bigger humidor to accomplish this mission. Still open to detailed nuance on what I miss by not waiting. Gonna start taking notes. I also need recommendations on larger count powered humidor and where to buy (if kosher for forum rules) I've been looking on Amazon. Currently I have a 200 count box humidor with a 60 gram 69rh boveda pack but it's at capacity (the lid barely closes)so I have a large freezer Ziploc bag on top with a small boveda pack in it. My lunch cooler is about to get stuffed with cigars. Do I have a problem or is this normal?


No, it's normal. This is an old picture. There's more in it now.

https://imgur.com/gallery/yoG1wvC
corey sellers Offline
#21 Posted:
Joined: 08-21-2011
Posts: 6,459
It's normal trust me my father inlaw asked me how many I had .Well let's just say I was wrong after I actually started counting boxes.
KingoftheCove Offline
#22 Posted:
Joined: 10-08-2011
Posts: 5,816
Dg west deptford wrote:
Great advice and info from all thanks so much. I'm going to need a bigger humidor to accomplish this mission. Still open to detailed nuance on what I miss by not waiting. Gonna start taking notes. I also need recommendations on larger count powered humidor and where to buy (if kosher for forum rules) I've been looking on Amazon. Currently I have a 200 count box humidor with a 60 gram 69rh boveda pack but it's at capacity (the lid barely closes)so I have a large freezer Ziploc bag on top with a small boveda pack in it. My lunch cooler is about to get stuffed with cigars. Do I have a problem or is this normal?

Very “normal”...
Here’s a 5 dollar 200+ count humi I made for overflow issues 9+ years ago.
It would hold probably closer to 400 in singles and fivers.

http://www.harborweb.com/santacruzflea/cigars/bucketidor.AVI
Numismaniac Offline
#23 Posted:
Joined: 01-13-2012
Posts: 11,642
What all the others said, as well as those damn paperboard cartons that some cigars are in, they're where I've been burned the most with mold. Once you get into the word of CC's, don't be worried about getting sealed boxes, they are checking for mold and other problems. I won't ever make the mistake of asking for sealed boxes again.

I would advise you to get the 150 qt Coleman cooler when Wal-mart runs them on sale, usually 40-60 bucks, you will thank me later, add in some cedar boxes from your local, many give them away, some want a few bucks.

Then add beads to your list, and I honestly think 69% isn't worth the bother, 65 is much safer.
Tittums Offline
#24 Posted:
Joined: 04-15-2019
Posts: 467
MACS wrote:
That's easy. You have plenty of stock on hand from which to smoke.


I want to say this.

USNGunner wrote:
Dude, they're your cigars. Fire away.


But at the end of the day this.

I stopped smoking fresh incoming after I got a nice collection going personally.
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#25 Posted:
Joined: 08-23-2014
Posts: 1,142
Here's a link to how I set up my first two coolers. I still use them, and they are both still full.

http://www.cigarbid.com/.../A-Couple-Of-My-Coolers

David
USNGunner Offline
#26 Posted:
Joined: 05-17-2019
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Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
Here's a link to how I set up my first two coolers. I still use them, and they are both still full.

http://www.cigarbid.com/.../A-Couple-Of-My-Coolers

David



Those are very nice. Very nice indeed.
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