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NWStogie Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 07-25-2016
Posts: 736
Hi, everyone!

I'm sorry that I haven't called or written, Frank. I've been negligent.

After 36 years of riding, I wrecked my motorcycle while out of state on a trip last Sept. I ended up spending a month in the hospital, recovering from major spinal surgery and a TBI.

It has been an interesting journey since then, with a number of twists and turns. Today, on the whole, life is very good. I'm back to walking, driving and working. One twist that I encountered with all of the medical attention focused on me was some strong indicators that I would be better off without cigars.

I'm not a fan of life without cigars (and the friendships and connections that come with them), but I'm a fan of life. I came pretty close to kicking the bucket with the wreck. I don't want to stand in line for more life lotto tickets after getting lucky in the last drawing that I participated in. If you know what I mean.

Over the last few months, I've been slowly rehoming my collection of over 1300 cigars with my cigar friends. (I think I'm down to about 6 or 700.) I've been doing mostly trades for wallet candelas, but there have been a few interesting trades for other items, too. Some of these cigars, I got at events or in trades (and a few from PIBs/bombs from you). Letting them go hasn't been easy. I'm surprised at how attached to them I still am.

If anyone is interested in wallet candela trading, please let me know and I'd be happy to send a spreadsheet of what I have. They are pretty much all non-cbid cigars, but I've been trading them at cbid prices.

Anyway... Sorry again for not calling or writing. Hope all is going well and that Hamk (if he's still around) has been behaving himself.

Mattster
Palama Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 02-05-2013
Posts: 23,669
Damn Matt! Great to see you post again but the circumstances in the months prior not so good. Gonz

Glad you were able to secure a Life Lotto Ticket and got to “cash it in” to good use.

Say “Howzit” to the Amazing Amy for me.
corey sellers Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 08-21-2011
Posts: 10,363
Well that explains where you have been sorry to hear all that has happened to you brother. Glad to hear you are doing well now send me a list and I will check it out . I have not been buying much lately.
delta1 Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 28,782
glad you survived, Bro...sad that you are departing the joys of the leaf...but you will always be a member of the brotherhood...
NWStogie Offline
#5 Posted:
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Amy says "Awww... That's nice" to your nice "howzit," Conan. She was a trooper throughout all of this. Put her life on hold and spent the month with me in CA. Figured out how to get me home in a ,wheelchair (train, instead of plane). Has been my drill sergeant and cheerleader (I've benefited from both).

Thx, Corey and Delta. I kinda miss this place.
Palama Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 02-05-2013
Posts: 23,669
NWStogie wrote:
Amy says "Awww... That's nice" to your nice "howzit," Conan. She was a trooper throughout all of this. Put her life on hold and spent the month with me in CA. Figured out how to get me home in a ,wheelchair (train, instead of plane). Has been my drill sergeant and cheerleader (I've benefited from both).

Thx, Corey and Delta. I kinda miss this place.


And that’s why she’s the “Amazing” one! ThumpUp
frankj1 Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,221
you didn't write, you didn't call... but The Lovely Caren and I are giving you a pass, Mattster.

What an ordeal! Had no idea what you were going through. Glad to see you are up and walking on your hind legs again.

Probably don't want anything (cutting waaay back) but send me the inventory anyway if you don't mind.

Don't be a stranger, my friend.

Frank
NWStogie Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 07-25-2016
Posts: 736
Frank! Thanks for the pass.

Thanks also for being willing to take a peek, even with cutting back. I'll send you the link. Feel free to share with any cigar friends who might be interested in a decent trades on some decent cigars.

I have one local friend who traded for about 300 and one of my two wineadores. He's getting set up like I used to be!

Stranger I will try not to be. Because strangers don't end up connecting with folks like you. You've been one of the many positives I've encountered through cigars.

Mattster
Whistlebritches Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 04-23-2006
Posts: 22,128
Matt you should have learned from Desolbones (Greg Wyatt) mistake back in 2014 IIRC...…..almost exact same circumstances.Greg is still kicking and smoking...…...….He's gonna live forever I tell ya.

Glad to see ya back Brother
NWStogie Offline
#10 Posted:
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Thx, WB!
Just Relax Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 09-26-2016
Posts: 587
Good to hear from you Matt but sorry it’s under these circumstances...

I wish you a speedy full recovery and hopefully will be seeing more of you posting again.

Welcome back!!
NWStogie Offline
#12 Posted:
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Thx JR!
RMAN4443 Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 09-29-2016
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glad to hear you made it through the crash and the aftermath Matt...been there done that, many years ago
So, I gotta know, curious minds and all that, You gonna ride again?...again, good to see you back
NWStogie Offline
#14 Posted:
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RMAN4443 wrote:
glad to hear you made it through the crash and the aftermath Matt...been there done that, many years ago
So, I gotta know, curious minds and all that, You gonna ride again?...again, good to see you back


Thx, Brother. No plans to ride again. I took a huge withdrawal from the grace & love bank of my family & friends. In addition to getting back on track with my life, I’m focused on making deposits back into this grace & love bank. The thought of riding again feels counter to this process, somehow. I have no memory of the accident. All i know is what my riding partner shared with me. I lost a week, waking up in the hospital with my wife and son by my side and metal rods in my back. No PTSD or fear of riding that I know of. Just a sense of rightness to keep focused on what I’ve been doing.

Hope that makes sense. If it doesn’t, I blame the head injury. 😉

Mattster
frankj1 Offline
#15 Posted:
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of course it makes sense.
Palama Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 02-05-2013
Posts: 23,669
Well said Matt. Applause
RMAN4443 Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 09-29-2016
Posts: 7,683
makes perfect sense....like I said, just a curiosity and the cat type of thing...Beer
ZRX1200 Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,589
Good to see ya posting brother!
NWStogie Offline
#19 Posted:
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Posts: 736
Thx, Z!
Pudding Mittens Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 08-15-2016
Posts: 1,291
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A friend of mine had a big, heavy, customized 1400cc Harley. Then one day out on the highway he hit a patch of gravel he failed to see. The next thing he remembers he was floating through the air with the extremely-heavy Harley floating directly above him, with time slowed down to a crawl, and he remembers thinking, "Gee I hope that big thing doesn't fall on me, I'll die".

It didn't, it crashed to Earth right next to him, instead.

He got his injuries treated and sold the bike, and will never touch another.

He likes to point out that in a car, that patch of gravel would've done exactly nothing.

It's said the lowest rates of motorcycle ownership are among E.R. doctors and nurses (who call them "donorcycles" because they get so many donated organs that way) and physicists, who unlike the average guy truly understand the horrifying magnitude of the forces involved.

Occasionally guys tell me to get a bike, and I tongue-in-cheekly reply that I will, as soon as they make them with four widely-spaced wheels for proper stability, anti-lock brakes, traction control and vehicle stability control to prevent crashes and a rigid steel cage that completely surrounds me, multiple airbags all around me, energy-absorbing crumple zones and seat belts with automatic pyrotechnic pre-tensioning for the remaining unavoidable crashes. Then I add, "oh wait, that's a CAR! I already have one of those!"

My pal is still around and smoking great cigars today, relatively intact and in good health, thank god. But he warns anyone who will listen to consider taking a pass when it comes to motorcycles. You want that open-air feeling of freedom with the wind in your hair? Consider a convertible with as many safety features as possible. It's not quite as safe as a fixed-top car, but it's pretty close, and enormously better than a motorcycle, no comparison whatsoever.
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NWStogie Offline
#21 Posted:
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Posts: 736
Nice to hear from you, PM! Glad your pal is still around. I wonder if I’m in someone’s cautionary story.
rfenst Offline
#22 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,289
Quite a story you have lived. Welcome back!
NWStogie Offline
#23 Posted:
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Thx, Brother.
Stogie1020 Offline
#24 Posted:
Joined: 12-19-2019
Posts: 5,320
Didn't know you before (i am a new guy here) but glad you are OK after the wreck and finding good homes for the cigars!
NWStogie Offline
#25 Posted:
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Posts: 736
Another Stogie!!! If you’re still here, you must’ve survived the new guy initiation. These are an awesome bunch to connect with.
frankj1 Offline
#26 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,221
haven't seen him around in a while, but weaponX had a bad crash that resulted in leg/foot/heel issues iirc.
great guy, lived in Nebraska or some place like that, taxidermist, made great antelope jerky, and sent some great bombs out.
Always used to win the new baby length/weight contests...
NWStogie Offline
#27 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
haven't seen him around in a while, but weaponX had a bad crash that resulted in leg/foot/heel issues iirc.
great guy, lived in Nebraska or some place like that, taxidermist, made great antelope jerky, and sent some great bombs out.
Always used to win the new baby length/weight contests...


Think it has something to do with the taxidermy experience?
Palama Offline
#28 Posted:
Joined: 02-05-2013
Posts: 23,669
frankj1 wrote:
haven't seen him around in a while, but weaponX had a bad crash that resulted in leg/foot/heel issues iirc.
great guy, lived in Nebraska or some place like that, taxidermist, made great antelope jerky, and sent some great bombs out.
Always used to win the new baby length/weight contests...


Oh, so that’s what happened to him. Ran across some Weapon X swag a few months ago and was wondering what happened to Kevin. And yes, he was a good dude.
frankj1 Offline
#29 Posted:
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Posts: 44,221
Palama wrote:
Oh, so that’s what happened to him. Ran across some Weapon X swag a few months ago and was wondering what happened to Kevin. And yes, he was a good dude.

I think I have the story pretty close to what happened, but he stuck around here off and on after the accident.
Nice find on his jerky thread.
jespear Offline
#30 Posted:
Joined: 03-19-2004
Posts: 9,464
Welcome back to the fold, Matt.
Glad to hear you are on the road to recovery.

And like delta said earlier . . . You will ALWAYS be a member of the "brotherhood" !

jes
NWStogie Offline
#31 Posted:
Joined: 07-25-2016
Posts: 736
Thx, Brother! I’m definitely feeling it, today. Not sure what “back” will look like, but it’s most definitely good to be. And at reconnect with you alls.
clintCigar Offline
#32 Posted:
Joined: 05-14-2019
Posts: 4,682
Glad you made it through such an ordeal NWStogie. BUT I have to address the big ass elephant in the corner here.

NWStogie wrote:
One twist that I encountered with all of the medical attention focused on me was some strong indicators that I would be better off without cigars.

What were these "strong indicators?"
NWStogie Offline
#33 Posted:
Joined: 07-25-2016
Posts: 736
Welcome aboard, Clint. Almost 2K posts in less than a year. You have me beat. This is a forum used by fans of the leaf and hosted by a cigar sales company. I’m not here to be a cautionary tale about these wonderful things we call cigars. Despite my own stuff, I’m fully supportive of this hobby. Getting into my own particulars just doesn’t seem relevant. Elephant begone.., Shoo!

Did that help?
clintCigar Offline
#34 Posted:
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I thought you were insinuating some sort of medical reason as the "strong indicators." If it's more of a non-medical personal issue then no worries. BUT any medical related issues due to cigars I feel should be shared with fellow BOTL/SOTL.
Cathcam13 Offline
#35 Posted:
Joined: 01-11-2018
Posts: 1,264
Hey NWStogie! Haven’t heard from you in forever. You are more than welcome to send me that list. As for the wreck, sorry to hear about that. I hope you are doing well.
bassman45 Offline
#36 Posted:
Joined: 07-05-2009
Posts: 4,091
Great to hear you're doing better, had 2 scary occasions on a bike,had a lady come off of a side street and pull right in front of me(ended up hitting curb and ended up in the grass). The second time a lady turned left in front of me on a wet street,ended up going down and just ended up with scrapes and bruises.That was the early 80s and haven't been on a bike since.Welcome back!
USNGunner Offline
#37 Posted:
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clintCigar wrote:
I thought you were insinuating some sort of medical reason as the "strong indicators." If it's more of a non-medical personal issue then no worries. BUT any medical related issues due to cigars I feel should be shared with fellow BOTL/SOTL.


Dude. Personal is personal. Medical or not. Nunya. BigGrin

Respect a brothers position.

(And another reading between the lines might be apropos.) ThumpUp
NWStogie Offline
#38 Posted:
Joined: 07-25-2016
Posts: 736
Clint: There you go, having feelings on CBid. Herfing

But seriously, we all know possible/potential outcomes from this hobby (including low bank account balances). I wouldn’t be sharing any new information with anyone, so just don’t feel the need. I plan on being around for a good long time, still.

Cathcam, my Southern neighbor! Good to hear from you! I’ll work to get the list updated and sent off to you soon.

Bassman: Thx, brother! Glad you made it through your experiences!
NWStogie Offline
#39 Posted:
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I’m having Hamk PTSD. Might be residual brain injury.
clintCigar Offline
#40 Posted:
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USNGunner wrote:
Dude. Personal is personal. Medical or not. Nunya. BigGrin

Respect a brothers position.

(And another reading between the lines might be apropos.) ThumpUp

So you're telling me if I was diagnosed with a medical issue DIRECTLY related to cigars you would not want to know??
NWStogie Offline
#41 Posted:
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Definitely Hamk PTSD.
Cereal City Cigar Smoker Offline
#42 Posted:
Joined: 03-30-2006
Posts: 14,587
Welcome back, Matt! Glad you are on the mend. I can't imagine all that you and your wife went through with the accident!

Live long and prosper!

Herfing
USNGunner Offline
#43 Posted:
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clintCigar wrote:
So you're telling me if I was diagnosed with a medical issue DIRECTLY related to cigars you would not want to know??


No, not necessarily. If, and only if you felt like sharing that information then fine.

Unless of course penetration of any sort was involved. Then no. d'oh!

Some don't like hanging it all out there. Privacy is actually a right.

Like the man said, we all know the potential downsides, hell, my 12 year old grandson berates me constantly. It is what it is.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#44 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2017
Posts: 14,665
Hi. I'm SOB, and I'm addicted to cigars. Thought y'all might want to know
NWStogie Offline
#45 Posted:
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Thx, CCCS! If we’re lucky, we can find growth and strength from experiences like this. For me, I feel like a lot of the “fluff” that had accumulated in my life (and my relationships) got blown away with this experience. Now, with less fluff and (hopefully) more clarity, what truly is important is held with importance. And what isn’t important, I’m not sweating so much.

For all that I put my friends & family through with this, I want to show that I’m not just back, but that I brought some good back with me, too.
I’m making deposits in their grace and love banks. Gratefully.
clintCigar Offline
#46 Posted:
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Hi. I'm SOB, and I'm addicted to cigars. Thought y'all might want to know

Is that a medical condition?? According to gunny there is no need to share with fellow BOTL/SOTL.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#47 Posted:
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Dam Skippy! Addiction is a serious medical condition from which I have no desire to be cured. And he said unless we felt like sharing. I'm just an open, honest fuddermucker
Palama Offline
#48 Posted:
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Miss this guy too.
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