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This is when it's good to know 8track on a personal level...

your vouching for him is good enough for me...looking forward to the day when we can kick back and enjoy a cigar and beverage and talk story, not politics

I just hope Obama learned his lesson and thinks twice before picking a fight next time.

Now his entire legacy will be completely undone by Trump and all Obama will have for his Presidential library is video of throwing out that first pitch and mom jeans.

I would vouch for you and Frank, too... and you're commie pinko libtards.

This whole leftie/rightie thing doesn't mean much when you sit and talk, enjoy a cigar and a drink, and get to know one another on a personal level. We mostly agree on things we disagree on (if that makes sense)... with different ideas on how to attain the American dream.

Add in completely different life experiences and you can see why our minds work differently to reach the same conclusion. I think we've forgotten how to discuss ideas and now just talk AT each other.

On today’s version of the Baghdad Bob show Bob explains how he was one of the first to realize this isn’t the flu and is indeed a brutal virus (cue laugh track). He went on to present himself as the guy that’s been trying to convince people this is worse than the flu (louder laugh track). While patently and prove able false his kardashian type following will ignore this and embrace it as the new doublespeak truth.

We also hear again how messed up everything he inherited from Obama but him mike and the doctors have fixed things. This is a recurring storyline that hopefully will sunset now that many of Bobs followers have bought it.

We also hear a personal story from bob about a friend who is macho but a little overweight who caught the evil disease, went to the hospital and is now in a coma. Assuming this is true, which is always a big assumption with the minister of disinformation, it may shed light on his turnaround since he’s seemed to be at odds with the pandemic models up to this point.

Bob also set the stage to claim anything less than 100,000 deaths is a victory for him and his admin. He left flexibility to use 200,000 as the bar but he could lower that projection from 200,000 to 400,00 at any time.

Other than this I hope Bobs performance today is sincere in terms of how we approach this from here. The future is more important than the past and here we are. If this is his new attitude kudos .... maybe he’s starting to get it. I’ve thought so before and said so in here but the following day he proved me wrong.

That whack whacky Baghdad Bob. Can’t wait for the next episode.

Yea wish we could scrap trump and Biden and start over but we get what we deserve.

I wish it was ham sammich vs meatball sub.

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Allow me to briefly depart from all the "ORANGE MAN STUPID, WRONG AND BAD!" posts to point out that Laura Ingraham interviewed a guy on her show last night who couldn't stop grinning. He was Skyping into the show from his house, because he's home and feeling perfectly healthy. Like several others she's interviewed, he was on death's doorstep with COVID-19, barely able to breathe, an infectious disease specialist doctor prescribed him hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, and "within a few hours" he could breathe normally again and he made an incredibly quick and full recovery.

Notice the similarity in timeframe of the sudden resolution of the extreme breathing difficulty:

1. This guy - "a few hours" after first dose.
2. Earlier guy on her show - "the next morning", after he took the first dose at bedtime.
3. Dr. Z's 699 patients - about 4-6 hours after their first doses

Verrrrrry interesting.

(Yes yes yes I know for god's sake please don't repeat the same lecture about anecdotals versus formal studies, we've covered the living schitt out of it. )

And now, I return you to your regularly-scheduled deluge of "ORANGE MAN STUPID, WRONG AND BAD!" posts.
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Yep.

When I hear Laura Ingram I stop listening. But I do hope the drugs work. You just won’t learn much useful from those types of shows.

Not really. One is a physical communication tool. The other is a highly produced propaganda mechanism.

You know I am hopeful for those drugs but I really don’t give a **** what the Ingram angle says or what they cherry pick. It’s just not legitimate at all. It wasn’t too long ago she to was minimizing the virus and this fits her MO.

Causality is important here. But again I’m not arguing against the drugs. But you’d never catch me peddling Ingrams crap and hoping to be taken seriously.

Not when they just open a Skype connection for the guy and he just tells his story and that's it. Then, her show is just a physical communication tool, a conduit. He would give the exact same content on any other show.

If you want to talk selection of who gets on and who doesn't, sure she has power over that.

Still, it's interesting to hear anecdotals that fit in not only with other anecdotals from other media outlets but also fit in with large group observations, like Dr. Z's 699 patients and what they experienced.


Yeah we do. But we're sharing some great info here overall. Let's keep it going.
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She has power over who she Skyped in and don’t think for a moment she doesn’t know what they are going to say and has cherry picked them for that purpose. She isn’t choosing people or families where it didn’t work (like danm) experience.

She very much has the ability to skew things and this is no harmless pass through. Her show is what it is. It’s a propaganda machine.

Infowars was notorious fir “Skyping” people in that supported his BS and proved things. It was bunk. So is she.

Aside from that I’m not arguing against the drugs. Using Ingram or other fox or msnbc entertainers trying to paint a preprogrammed picture weakens your ability to be taken serious.... which I have and do.

and again I’m hopeful for the meds.

But the horse is dead. If you really think it’s my bias so be it. I just hope they are right and it’s a miracle cure. I also hoped this was no worse than the flu. Hopefully I’ll bat .500 with my hopes.

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Wow, I never knew that news outlets are run by people who get to decide what is covered and what isn't, and that they sometimes are biased! I learned something today, awesome! Thank you

The fact remains that that guy was still cured, apparently by this two-drug cocktail. So was another guy she had on. And a guy before that.

And, curiously, their stories and "trajectories" and timelines (breathing difficulties ceasing several hours into treatment) all seem to align very closely with data from other individuals and groups who are completely unconnected to her or Fox News, including one with a sample size of 699 patients.

I guess Laura Ingraham has psychic control over lots of other doctors and researchers and individuals she and her show have never had any contact with. That must be it.

Either that or it's pure coincidence, I'm sure. It's all a Fox News conspiracy somehow!
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Again... I hope you are right but don’t get sucked in by her and her bs show. I knew folks that trusted Alex Jones. It’s the same thing.

...but without law suits from people who had children that were alive but are not alive anymore.

Not what I said. But if that’s what you think I said you should tune me out.

I’m not saying anyone is paid or even that they don’t believe what they are saying.

Are you really that invested in Laura Ingram? I gave you more credit than that.

the investment is in those drugs...but did the news come from her (read:Trump)?

mitts, I can't imagine anyone hoping all these reports are false.
I'm still gonna wait for reports from sources not dependent on audience shares, or beholden to any office holders.

no, you don't got it at all.
you're taking it like an attack.

No you really don’t get it but you don’t want to and I don’t really care if you do. It’s all good. Sorry I got under your skin. Didn’t realize how invested you were in her show.

I hope the drugs work and they are rightfully being used as a last resort. We agree on that. Enjoy the angle.

Where is this "so invested in her show" stuff coming from?

I pointed out a guy's first-hand story of being cured by a drug. If it were printed in the New York Times, and I told you guys about it, would I suddenly be "so invested in the New York Times"?

No, I didn't think so. Yet NYT is biased as all hell with content selection.
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Yes. You were the first to point out the French study, and there’s been consistently more supporting information since. You’ve been a source of hopeful information. Thank you for that.

We’re all hopeful. But don’t want to be blindly so. However, some are cynical to a fault.
I remain positive, but I don’t know why, after so much evidence of the positive effects of these drugs, there hasn’t been a widespread declaration of it’s success. That’s what has me on edge.

And there seems to be absolutely nothing to gain from a news source peddling false hope in this case...

Several factors at play, I mentioned some previously. Primarily:

1. You don't want to be the first news outlet to declare that it works, then be wrong and have egg on your face.

2. The more you point out that it seems to work, the more that dimmer-witted people will wrongly conclude that the burdensome isolation measures aren't necessary any more, which is quite dangerous, at least in the near term.

Both these factors lead news outlets to say relatively little, and wait for harder confirmation (controlled large-scale high-quality study results) before saying much.

Luckily those results are coming. Unfortunately I only caught part of this on the radio while I was driving for groceries today, but if I heard it right, there are apparently 1,100 participants in the controlled study on these two drugs that's happening now in NY, and supposedly it's on day three of treatment. So just hang in there.
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No doubt about it, they do. Tucker Carlson is unwatchable to me... as is Hannity.

I am aware it is being done. However, like I said, more and more cases like this are happening and I want to hear it from the person who lived it. It is relevant.