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Swamped at work today. Problem with working from home is it’s easy to work late. Haven’t checked are the numbers still cranking up?

Sorry to hear about the deputy MACS.
Stay safe brother...

I've been arguing with the folks at my wife's facility about this.

"Well the data..................."

"I don't give a **** about the data, my buddy has been dealing with this for weeks! Be freaking prepared!"

"Well, our pathologist says................"

"How many cases has he dealt with personally?"

Silence.

I'm not sure they get it.

Now we're down 2... 2 more in the hospital. Most cases coming out of our facility.

When you have been coming home from work do you isolate? Hate to hear what’s going on.

I've been using Instacart for years. Great service, especially now.

I mean.... we're trying. But we're not doing as well as we should be.
We're behind the curve puddin'.
New tests are being developed, but they're being produced at levels of "5,000 per week" (I beleive that is the Abbot test)... when we're getting 25,000 new cases a day that's not going to get us there. If we're getting 25,000 cases a day we should be testing way more than that a day to be controlling and quarantining. We're simply not.

PPE production is ramping up. Since they're simple devices I'm sure it'll be fine, but hospitals are still reporting shortages, I don't know if that's a production or distribution issue. I can't imagine we won't be able to resolve this issue at least, but our bureaucracy has done a great job of f-cking up the simplest tasks on this pandemic, so who knows.

I know you want to be optimisitc. And that's great. But I see so many points where we really should have done better. And we're continuing to make completely unforced errors.
Test kits that are produced are being distributed to states, not based on level of infection, but some other metric.
The Federal "ventilator stockpile"? is apparently being held back because Kushner thinks this is a "Federal stockpile" and shouldn't be distributed to the states.... I don't even understand half of that sentence I just typed.

interesting Chinese interview with one of the Wuhan funeral home managers from back in Feb

https://youtu.be/-KFxCqV1fPQ

Imma gonna leave it to show my ignorance but I didn’t know much about the Falun Gong. So I read a bit. My impression of them was off.

I don’t know if I support them but they are different than I thought.

Chuckie chuckie chuckie

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"Mysterious Heart Damage, Not Just Lung Troubles, Befalling COVID-19 Patients"

https://khn.org/news/mysterious-heart-damage-not-just-lung-troubles-befalling-covid-19-patients/

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Looks like numbers yesterday were good.
Dunno if that was an anomaly of the statistics, or a reporting error or what. We'll see what today's final numbers are, but maybe we're finally slowing our increase in cases....

Dunno if everyone saw or not... but the tiger in the zoo getting diagnosed with COVID-19 is real big news if accurate.

That would piggyback on reports from china of people's housecats being diagnosed with it (I was ignoring this because I figured there's all sorts of possible issues which could screw with that testing along with it being done out of china).

Think a bit about what it means if the virus can go from one animal (still not confirmed which) to humans, and then back to animals (cats in this case). That would strongly suggest it can go from cats back to humans, which means there is a very problematic wild disease pool potential in the form of our nations feral cats.

Example - TW gets COVID-19... while ill and diseased, he consoles himself by cuddling Fluffy, his irritable pomeranian he usually dresses up in pink princess outfits. After TW dies, his wife doesn't notice that Fluffy's got a bit of a cough, because she's spending too much time on Tinder and sending PMs to Drafter because she's looking for a man who reminds her of her beloved TW... in the genital region (all, this is totally in jest, no one get your panties in a bundle. We all know TW's wife can do much better than TW or drafter.)...

Anyway, she puts Fluffy outside when she goes out on her many, many dates and Fluffy happens to go and fight with the local feral cats population... lots of spitting and hissing and claws.... actually, Fluffy may be dating too.

Next thing you know the Feral cats in KC happen to be carrying COVID-19. No big deal, not necessarily fatal to the cats.... just remains a population where the disease can hang out.

A year later... or a few months... or longer... Jade's housecat Betty gets out, spends the night on the town. Jade is distraught, crying desperately into his chiffon gown. Fortunately, the cat comes back the next day... pregnant... and with COVID-19.

Bottom line here? If this can go animal-human-animal (just like .... nah, I'll be nice here) then we really need to make sure our population gets vaccinated for this sh#t once we develop it.

total numbers in US is still going up, but not as fast...hopefully, we're leveling off and finally flattening the curve...

the numbers of deaths trails the numbers of positive tests, according to Dr. Fauci, by about two weeks, so the death rate is expected to go up even as the positive test number goes down...


too bad we haven't done, nor are doing, more widespread testing...need to see where new hotspots may flare, where the virus may have departed with an eye towards lifting stay at home orders and re-open businesses...

and who were infected and have recovered so we can use their anti-body rich plasma for treatment

I so think the efforts seem to be working but we shall see.

He was talking about alot of puss y running around

Uk tried that for awhile and was heralded for not killing their economy etc.

Prayers for Boris. In ICU.

Course not. But it's also not lives vs dollars.
People dying or being hospitalized en mass also costs money. Treating 100k people all at once costs more than treating 20k every 2 weeks over the course of 2 months (or however it would be dragged out) because scaling up the necessary medical equipment is a resource cost.
People being hospitalized in huge amounts is a large disruption to our economy. These are people who may not be insured, will not be able to make their rent or mortgage payments etc etc.

Like I said. If it was just "let some extra people die and be able to keep the economy trucking along" I'd throw all you old and/or co-morbid people under the economy bus... (except frank, we'll keep frank quarantined for our nation's good). But someone made good arguments to me that letting a bunch of people die/get sick in the short term will still have the economic chaos we're seeing now, but with extra added medical chaos.

And vice versa. Letting this run it’s course unchecked would obliterate the economy.

Like a wave a certain segment of the media keeps pushing towards opening things up. I noticed Sweden was the hot topic this morning. On the day the same media (who for way too long thought this was just the flu) was pushing the same message about the UK the UK changed it’s plan. Some of their experts have been easily discredited.

Boris to that point minimized things and kept shaking hands etc. now he’s in icu and his pregnant girlfriend sounds pretty rough.

Stay the course. It’s hard but we can do it.

Shana's lurking.

Prolly looking to ban TW.

Is Sven in the homeland? If so tell him to shelter in place.

Does this matter though, when there are a lot of reports of people who got over it, and then got re-infected again?

Some perhaps were the "false negatives sandwiched between positives" thing (where you're positive, then fake-negative, then fake-negative again so the docs say "cured!", then you're positive again... but you were REALLY ALWAYS positive).

What if some of them weren't though? What if somebody really did beat it, really did test negative (real negative), then later got infected by it again? South Korea, from what I heard, has reported over 50 of these cases.

This would render "who has already had it" tests at least somewhat irrelevant. At that point, only a vaccine would matter (assuming it really could PERMANENTLY prevent infection).


Yeah, the longer you stay in your house, the more time you're allowing for ass-kicking treatments to be found. That's a big, big benefit of staying holed up.
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1. Isolation nearly 24x7 worsening mental illness leading to suicides.

2. Job/business/investment/life-savings losses causing poverty and despair leading to suicides.

3. Job/business/investment/life-savings losses causing homelessness leading to death (by violent attacks, exposure, disease, etc.)

4. Close quarters nearly-24x7 living causing increases in domestic violence, some of it fatal.

5. Job loss causing health insurance loss causing "condition upkeep neglect" (can no longer afford maintenance drugs, routine appointments, ongoing treatments, etc. for serious pre-existing non-COVID19-related health conditions) often leading to death.

6. If it goes on long enough, breakdown of services, supply chains and social order leading to mass criminal violence and large numbers of deaths.

There are a lot of others, that other people here can probably list. Those are just off the top of my head.
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