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fishinguitarman Offline
#801 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 2:34 PM EST
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Well! If JUST YOU says so.....
opelmanta1900 Offline
#802 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 3:30 PM EST
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Stanford recently announced they were developing a rapid test to detect antibodies from the virus...

When they announced it I told my wife I thought maybe officials were lending credence to the idea the virus has somehow gotten here earlier than we'd thought...

Apparently that's what they're now saying, officials believe the virus swept through here last fall...

And that's why California's is seeing so few deaths compared to new York... Many of us have had it...

My son was home sick for 10 days in December... My daughter was home a week... My father in law ended up in the hospital with pneumonia that wouldn't go away, and I caught a Virus that changed my body completely...

Nothing is proven but I would not doubt it if they come back with results showing California was the starting point for the US back in fall 2019...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#803 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 3:32 PM EST
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From the first article:

The Stanford blood test is just “hours” away from federal approval and could allow people to begin to return to work, Newsom said. The tests are “serological,” and could determine whether someone has developed antibodies to the coronavirus. In theory, those who develop immunity may be able to safely interact with others without catching or spreading it.


https://amp.fresnobee.com/news/california/article241774351.html
opelmanta1900 Offline
#804 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 3:34 PM EST
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From the second article:

"Researchers believe COVID-19 first appeared in fall 2019 in California — accounting for the state’s lower confirmed cases."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article241855856.html
MACS Offline
#805 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 3:56 PM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Macs, if you’re gonna use “data” in that manner?
Then the worldwide death rate as of today is 5.8%.
U.S. death rate is 3.4%.


Again... we're basing numbers off extremely limited testing.
delta1 Offline
#806 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:04 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
From the second article:

"Researchers believe COVID-19 first appeared in fall 2019 in California — accounting for the state’s lower confirmed cases."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article241855856.html



nuh uh...it was Trump's travel ban from China...
victor809 Offline
#807 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:09 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I caught a Virus that changed my body completely...


Ok Joelina....
delta1 Offline
#808 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:13 PM EST
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hah...was gonna ask if he sprouted some boobs or got a plumper derriere...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#809 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:15 PM EST
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I don't need to prove anything to you 2... Dr B Hole knows the truth... Dr B Hole knows...Not talking
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#810 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:17 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Stanford recently announced they were developing a rapid test to detect antibodies from the virus...

When they announced it I told my wife I thought maybe officials were lending credence to the idea the virus has somehow gotten here earlier than we'd thought...

Apparently that's what they're now saying, officials believe the virus swept through here last fall...

And that's why California's is seeing so few deaths compared to new York... Many of us have had it...

My son was home sick for 10 days in December... My daughter was home a week... My father in law ended up in the hospital with pneumonia that wouldn't go away, and I caught a Virus that changed my body completely...

Nothing is proven but I would not doubt it if they come back with results showing California was the starting point for the US back in fall 2019...


I lean toward that same theory, but until the antibody test is available widespread, there is no way to prove it. Here in NC, my wife had all the symptoms in February. Chest conjestion, dry cough, low grade fever and loss of smell and taste. She said it was unlike any flu/cold she ever had before, and was completely in her chest. It was an annoying illness, but she was still able to function, and never had trouble breathing. I was by her side the whole time taking care of her and never showed any symptoms. We are both in our 60s, but eat a whole food organic Keto diet, practice intermittent fasting, and consume immune system boosting suplements. I've talked with dozens in the area that had the same symptoms, including our daughters, son-in-laws and grandkids. It also blew through our schools. I hope the antibody test becomes available soon, as I would love for both of us to take it. If we both show antibodies, it would strengthen my belief that this part of NC experienced this virus back in February, and that our current lockdown is a waste.


David
delta1 Offline
#811 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:18 PM EST
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seems the genome of the corona virus running rampant in NY matches that of those in Europe, like the virus on the west coast matches the Chinese virus, so that seems to fit in the timeline...west coast first from China...east coast later from Europe...


but begs the question: why does it appear to lurk in a less virulent stage for a month or two, then explode into a contagion?
victor809 Offline
#812 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:28 PM EST
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Not sure it does. You guys are extrapolating a whole lot from very little information.

This appears to be a VERY virulent virus. It is great at it's job in that respect. I find it very difficult to believe it ended up in so many different places without people having a direct reason for it, without there being a significant uptick in hospitals. I mean, NYC literally is keeping bodies in refrigerated trucks and discussing temporary burials in parks.... if it ran through our communities previously we would have at least seen a blip on the hospital radar.
delta1 Offline
#813 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:32 PM EST
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legitimate question...

but Stanford ...(tho I didn't read the article Opel linked) seems they're studying that possibility by testing people for anti-bodies...
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#814 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:33 PM EST
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Yesterday the IHME downgraded their COVID19 death toll prediction model from over 200,000 to just 60,000. Similar to a bad flu season. I had to really search to find any reference to this, as the MSM seems to have ignored this story completely, as it doesn't fit their doom and gloom narrative. Even after the revised IHME model was released, MSNBC had a Biden advisor on, who claimed hundreds of thousands would die, and that the lockdown needed to last 12 to 18 months.

David
MACS Offline
#815 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:39 PM EST
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The IHME model, the british model... pretty much all the models are "revising". And the government says it's because we social distanced!

And then they tell you correlation does not equal causation when it comes to chloroquine.
victor809 Offline
#816 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:40 PM EST
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That evil MSM that ignores the stories....

.... and again about a story I already read.... in the evil MSM.
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#817 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:50 PM EST
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Again Victor does not understand the difference between broadcasting doom and gloom for 24/7, and a 2 minute mention of the revised IHME report. Wow, it was briefly mentioned, while proclaiming doom and gloom for the other 23 hours and 58 minutes, so that proves they are not bias. SMH.

David
victor809 Offline
#818 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:54 PM EST
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..... how are you getting your news? Do you have cable news on all the time?
I mean... most people get the news off the internet these days. So the "2 minute mention" is kind of odd. An internet article lasts forever. There's no time involved in it.

Hell, I won't even look at a news story if it's an embedded video. Someone telling you something you could easily read doubles how long it takes.
MACS Offline
#819 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 7:33 PM EST
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This was too dadgum hilarious not to share...

https://tinyurl.com/v858zyn

U.S.—Scientists across the nation are racing against time to develop a vaccine against the deadly COVID-19 virus. Despite significant progress, researchers have hit a snag. Sources confirm an effective vaccine is ready to mass produce except for one problem: manufacturers have so far been unable to give it the power to cause autism.

“Like any good vaccine, this one needs to give autism to some kids,” said Phil Mipockets, CEO of a major pharmaceutical firm. “I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night if we put something on the market that was totally safe and didn’t ruin some people’s lives.”

When the Coronavirus pandemic began spreading around the globe, the vaccine industry rejoiced at the opportunity for another excuse to hurt more children. “We hit a lull recently, since our vaccines basically eradicated polio, smallpox, and many other deadly infectious diseases,” one researcher told sources. “We needed a new reason to pump kids full of harmful toxins.”

“Thanks, Coronavirus,” he added.

Vaccine-makers say it could be early 2021 before they can mass produce an autism-causing shot that meets industry standards.
Speyside Offline
#820 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 7:56 PM EST
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Dave, CNN was running it as one of their bottom screen headlines all night, and they had people on explaining the reasoning behind the model change.

MACS, thank you for the chuckle, I needed one!
delta1 Offline
#821 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 8:12 PM EST
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Thanks MACS, that was hilarious
USNGunner Offline
#822 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 8:40 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
This was too dadgum hilarious not to share...

https://tinyurl.com/v858zyn

U.S.—Scientists across the nation are racing against time to develop a vaccine against the deadly COVID-19 virus. Despite significant progress, researchers have hit a snag. Sources confirm an effective vaccine is ready to mass produce except for one problem: manufacturers have so far been unable to give it the power to cause autism.

“Like any good vaccine, this one needs to give autism to some kids,” said Phil Mipockets, CEO of a major pharmaceutical firm. “I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night if we put something on the market that was totally safe and didn’t ruin some people’s lives.”

When the Coronavirus pandemic began spreading around the globe, the vaccine industry rejoiced at the opportunity for another excuse to hurt more children. “We hit a lull recently, since our vaccines basically eradicated polio, smallpox, and many other deadly infectious diseases,” one researcher told sources. “We needed a new reason to pump kids full of harmful toxins.”

“Thanks, Coronavirus,” he added.

Vaccine-makers say it could be early 2021 before they can mass produce an autism-causing shot that meets industry standards.



BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's funny!
8trackdisco Offline
#823 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 8:42 PM EST
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Anybody have any numbers on the rise of suicides over the last 30 days compared to a normal 30 day period prior year?
tailgater Offline
#824 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 8:56 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:


Hell, I won't even look at a news story if it's an embedded video. Someone telling you something you could easily read doubles how long it takes.


That's how I am with porn.
Palama Offline
#825 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 10:28 PM EST
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A 3-night curfew has been issued for the island of Oahu effective Friday the 10th till Monday the 13th. Curfew hours will be from 11:00 pm to 5:00 am. Anyone caught on anything with wheels - motorized or non-motorized - will be issued a citation. Exceptions for anyone going to or from work, seeking medical care or picking up medical prescriptions. If you’re walking, you’re fine.
victor809 Offline
#826 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 10:30 PM EST
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That's f-cking hilarious....

But careful with that... We used to have a few here who would take you seriously.
tonygraz Offline
#827 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 8:04 AM EST
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And probably still have a few.
USNGunner Offline
#828 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 8:53 AM EST
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Palama wrote:
A 3-night curfew has been issued for the island of Oahu effective Friday the 10th till Monday the 13th. Curfew hours will be from 11:00 pm to 5:00 am. Anyone caught on anything with wheels - motorized or non-motorized - will be issued a citation. Exceptions for anyone going to or from work, seeking medical care or picking up medical prescriptions. If you’re walking, you’re fine.


What is the point of that?
izonfire Offline
#829 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 8:58 AM EST
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USNGunner wrote:
What is the point of that?


People become super-spreaders once they climb aboard any wheeled mode of transportation.
Thought you knew that...
tailgater Offline
#830 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 10:23 AM EST
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izonfire wrote:
People become super-spreaders once they climb aboard any wheeled mode of transportation.
Thought you knew that...


I knew a girl like that in college...
teedubbya Offline
#831 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 10:28 AM EST
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New data suggests staying away from anything round.

Poor drafter.
victor809 Offline
#832 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 10:30 AM EST
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This just in. If you have previously been exposed to something round in the past 5 years and recovered, you have likely developed antibodies to the coronavirus.
teedubbya Offline
#833 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 10:32 AM EST
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Damn. I’ve never met drafter Mellow
MACS Offline
#834 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 10:36 AM EST
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I have. Guess I'm good.
tonygraz Offline
#835 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 10:58 AM EST
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Somethin fishy about that.
teedubbya Offline
#836 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 11:03 AM EST
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Poor poor opie

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/10/health/smoking-weed-coronavirus-wellness/index.html


I posted this as a joke. No idea if there is merit here.
izonfire Offline
#837 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 11:15 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Poor poor opie

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/10/health/smoking-weed-coronavirus-wellness/index.html


I posted this as a joke. No idea if there is merit here.

Sounds like someone’s blowing smoke up your ass...
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#838 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 11:20 AM EST
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"The problem, said Dr. Mitchell Glass, a pulmonologist and spokesperson for the American Lung Association, is that the last thing you want during a pandemic is to make it more difficult for a doctor to diagnose your symptoms."

The ****?

Dr. B Hole says fake news...
teedubbya Offline
#839 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 11:28 AM EST
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Love your new avatar. Didn’t notice it earlier.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#840 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 11:31 AM EST
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Changed it Like 5 days ago and it kept showing up as Cosby... Must've changed this morning somehow...
Palama Offline
#841 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 11:58 AM EST
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USNGunner wrote:
What is the point of that?



The Honolulu Mayor’s rationale was that the curfew imposed on Kauai last month seemed to work and with an apparent flattening of their curve, felt doing the same here would accelerate the flattening here. The curfew this weekend is just a test so we’ll see if it becomes the new norm.
USNGunner Offline
#842 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 12:00 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Changed it Like 5 days ago and it kept showing up as Cosby... Must've changed this morning somehow...


Wait? You're not black?
izonfire Offline
#843 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 12:09 PM EST
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USNGunner wrote:
Wait? You're not black?

Mulatto. And he's super-sensitive about it.
So don't say nuthin'...
Palama Offline
#844 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 12:11 PM EST
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USNGunner wrote:
Wait? You're not black?


I may have missed it but during the VHerf I only heard that TW was half black (...from the lower half only...) and that Izon was albino black. Did Joel make a similar confession or did the secondhand stone cause you to hallucinate that thought?
Palama Offline
#845 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 12:13 PM EST
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izonfire wrote:
Mulatto. And he's super-sensitive about it.
So don't say nuthin'...


Oops! Don’t wanna make Opie mad... 😡
izonfire Offline
#846 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 12:55 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
Oops! Don’t wanna make Opie mad... 😡

Sure as hell don't.
He'll rain hellfire down on your ass.
It was obvious from the V-Herf that he has a hair-trigger.

Me, on the other hand,
I'm completely comfortable with being an albino mulatto...
delta1 Offline
#847 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 12:58 PM EST
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Tiger would be jealous
teedubbya Offline
#848 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 1:17 PM EST
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If our entire body regenerates every 7 years does that mean opie is made out of weed?
MACS Offline
#849 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 1:18 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
If our entire body regenerates every 7 years does that mean opie is made out of weed?


Prolly Mellow
izonfire Offline
#850 Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2020, 2:51 PM EST
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Yah Mon!!!
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