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MACS Offline
#251 Posted: Sat, Mar 21 2020, 11:15 PM EST
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With factories shut down, people staying home, and sheltering in place... the corona virus has done more for the environment in a couple weeks than Greta Thunberg ever did. Anxious

Just saying... Laugh
izonfire Offline
#252 Posted: Sat, Mar 21 2020, 11:17 PM EST
Joined: 12-09-2013
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Congratulations on your 25th Drafter!
Make sure to spend some quality quarantine time together...
tonygraz Offline
#253 Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2020, 7:24 AM EST
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Posts: 20,231
DrafterX wrote:
We went to Jamaica on our 20th and thought we'd go back.. but changed our minds.. might still go.. maybe late this year.. Mellow


Happy Anniversary -25 years is remarkable - my 25th is next year, I hear the wives are up for sainthood.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#254 Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2020, 7:30 AM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Happy Anniversary -25 years is remarkable - my 25th is next year, I hear the wives are up for sainthood.

Yours might get to be pope even!

Congrats to both of you...
chazbo Offline
#255 Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2020, 9:01 AM EST
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Well we will have a new baby boom in 8-12 months😁
Ram27 Offline
#256 Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2020, 9:11 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
25th anniversary was Friday and we decided to stay home.. kinda a bummer but saved a couple thousand bucks i guess... we'll do somethin when everyone stops freaking out... Mellow



Congrats to you both. Applause




Howdy dowdy peeps..............RollEyes
Sunoverbeach Offline
#257 Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2020, 9:57 AM EST
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Posts: 14,650
Congrats, Drafter!

Wife and I did our 10yr in Jamaica. Several local folks expressed amazement anyone would stay together that long.
tonygraz Offline
#258 Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2020, 11:47 AM EST
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There are no popes in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#259 Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2020, 12:57 PM EST
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We could all use some GOOD news about this, right?

GOOD NEWS BIT #1:

Well, here's a positive thing I failed to mention earlier. You know that French study where hydroxychloriquine and azithromycin together cured 100% of people after 5-6 days?

I mentioned it was hastily done and had many inadequacies (only 6 people got the two-drug combo and were cured, it was non-randomized and non-blinded, etc.)

Those are fairly dim clouds cast over the study, however, if you look at the statistical analysis, things get much brighter. "Significance" is generally agreed to begin when a result is 20-to-1 against chance (meaning there's only a 1 out of 20 probability that it happened randomly and the effect indicated is not real).

This study is 10,000-to-1 against chance. This means the probability of the study's findings being wrong (which would mean that two-drug combo is not effective) is THE SAME as the probability of you walking into a store and buying just a single "Pick 4" lottery ticket (the kind with four digits each from 0-9) and matching the drawn number perfectly.

GOOD NEWS BIT #2:

Remember I mentioned Africa having a very low infection rate, possibly because they use chloroquine / hydroxychloriquine widely for prevention and treatment of malaria?

Turns out it isn't just Africa. Southeast Asia and South America also use the drug widely for the same reason.

Guess who also has almost no COVID-19 cases? Yeah, Southeast Asia and South America. It's not just one data point (Africa) now, it's three, which is a considerably stronger confidence level.

Hence my optimism about the two-drug combo. About 4-5 more days and I suspect we'll be hearing the "wow!" reports coming in from the field, even though the large-scale, tightly-controlled, formalized study's results will be months away. But if so, nobody will care much about the formal study, it'll be "off to the races" with mass deployment for curing and possibly prevention too (given to healthcare workers first, likely, as they're at highest risk).
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izonfire Offline
#260 Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2020, 1:06 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
There are no popes in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Is that a Cardinal rule?
izonfire Offline
#261 Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2020, 1:13 PM EST
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
This study is 10,000-to-1 against chance. This means the probability of the study's findings being wrong (which would mean that two-drug combo is not effective) is THE SAME as the probability of you walking into a store and buying just a single "Pick 4" lottery ticket (the kind with four digits each from 0-9) and matching the drawn number perfectly..

Hence my optimism about the two-drug combo. About 4-5 more days and I suspect we'll be hearing the "wow!" reports coming in from the field, even though the large-scale, tightly-controlled, formalized study's results will be months away. But if so, nobody will care much about the formal study, it'll be "off to the races" with mass deployment for curing and possibly prevention too (given to healthcare workers first, likely, as they're at highest risk).
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Bingo!!!
Whoops. Wrong game...

Thanks for the uplifting thoughts Puddin!
USNGunner Offline
#262 Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2020, 1:39 PM EST
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izonfire wrote:
Is that a Cardinal rule?


Yes, it actually is. I'm a member.
izonfire Offline
#263 Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2020, 2:31 PM EST
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USNGunner wrote:
Yes, it actually is. I'm a member.

Never did take you for a Cubs fan...
CelticBomber Offline
#264 Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2020, 2:34 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
There are no popes in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.


Pastarianism

Why should you convert?

*Flimsy moral standards.

*Every Friday is a religious holiday. If your work/school objects to that, demand your religious beliefs are respected and threaten to call the ACLU.

*Our Heaven is WAY better. We've got a Stripper Factory AND a Beer Volcano.


Behold I have been touched by his noodly appendage!
izonfire Offline
#265 Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2020, 6:23 PM EST
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Posts: 8,644
CelticBomber wrote:
Pastarianism

Why should you convert?

*Flimsy moral standards.

*Every Friday is a religious holiday. If your work/school objects to that, demand your religious beliefs are respected and threaten to call the ACLU.

*Our Heaven is WAY better. We've got a Stripper Factory AND a Beer Volcano.


Behold I have been touched by his noodly appendage!

Think I would jump straight to Pastafarianism...
Yeah mon!
USNGunner Offline
#266 Posted: Sun, Mar 22 2020, 8:29 PM EST
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Posts: 4,402
CelticBomber wrote:
Pastarianism

Why should you convert?

*Flimsy moral standards.

*Every Friday is a religious holiday. If your work/school objects to that, demand your religious beliefs are respected and threaten to call the ACLU.

*Our Heaven is WAY better. We've got a Stripper Factory AND a Beer Volcano.


Behold I have been touched by his noodly appendage!


Exactly. Much better than being slapped about the head and shoulders by a trout.
victor809 Offline
#267 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 9:51 AM EST
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Posts: 23,866
Pudding Mittens wrote:
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We could all use some GOOD news about this, right?

GOOD NEWS BIT #1:

Well, here's a positive thing I failed to mention earlier. You know that French study where hydroxychloriquine and azithromycin together cured 100% of people after 5-6 days?

I mentioned it was hastily done and had many inadequacies (only 6 people got the two-drug combo and were cured, it was non-randomized and non-blinded, etc.)

Those are fairly dim clouds cast over the study, however, if you look at the statistical analysis, things get much brighter. "Significance" is generally agreed to begin when a result is 20-to-1 against chance (meaning there's only a 1 out of 20 probability that it happened randomly and the effect indicated is not real).

This study is 10,000-to-1 against chance. This means the probability of the study's findings being wrong (which would mean that two-drug combo is not effective) is THE SAME as the probability of you walking into a store and buying just a single "Pick 4" lottery ticket (the kind with four digits each from 0-9) and matching the drawn number perfectly.

GOOD NEWS BIT #2:

Remember I mentioned Africa having a very low infection rate, possibly because they use chloroquine / hydroxychloriquine widely for prevention and treatment of malaria?

Turns out it isn't just Africa. Southeast Asia and South America also use the drug widely for the same reason.

Guess who also has almost no COVID-19 cases? Yeah, Southeast Asia and South America. It's not just one data point (Africa) now, it's three, which is a considerably stronger confidence level.

Hence my optimism about the two-drug combo. About 4-5 more days and I suspect we'll be hearing the "wow!" reports coming in from the field, even though the large-scale, tightly-controlled, formalized study's results will be months away. But if so, nobody will care much about the formal study, it'll be "off to the races" with mass deployment for curing and possibly prevention too (given to healthcare workers first, likely, as they're at highest risk).
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I hate to poop on your parade.... but I really think you may want to dial back your optimism a little.
I was reading a critique on that study over the weekend, and there were a few things that stood out. I'm working from memory here, so bear with me.

Apparently the 100% cure rate was not real. If you look at the original study there were more patients entering the study than finishing... that 6 patients that took the drug combo and were 100% cured? Well I guess some of the patients (I can't remember if it was the combo therapy or the hydroxychloroquine patients) "dropped out"... ie died/went to intensive care/left because of nausea?.... Anyway, that was a little bit of a question in the author's method of presenting the data (real easy to present good data if you only consider 100% to be the patients who make it through)

Additionally, their "undetectable" levels in PCR rounds were not the standard. There's apparently an accepted number of PCR rounds one does to show that something is of undetectable levels (don't know if you know this, but in case you don't, PCR is essentially amplification of extracted DNA... ). I don't remember the exact number of rounds they did, but it was maybe 20% less than what's considered standard. I find that odd.

And then on top of all the study questions, there are now doctors stating that combining these two drugs at INCORRECT dosages apparently can lead to some heart issues.

Oh... BTW our idiot of a president of course decided to tweet "HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains - Thank You! Hopefully they will BOTH (H works better with A, International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents) be put in use IMMEDIATELY. PEOPLE ARE DYING, MOVE FAST, and GOD BLESS EVERYONE!"
Which has led to a couple people in Africa taking the drug combo at incorrect doses and becoming ill.

HockeyDad Offline
#268 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 11:28 AM EST
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You people trusted a study from France. Sweet!
opelmanta1900 Offline
#269 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 11:36 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:


Oh... BTW our idiot of a president of course decided to tweet "HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains - Thank You! Hopefully they will BOTH (H works better with A, International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents) be put in use IMMEDIATELY. PEOPLE ARE DYING, MOVE FAST, and GOD BLESS EVERYONE!"
Which has led to a couple people in Africa taking the drug combo at incorrect doses and becoming ill.


All part of the plan...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#270 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 11:38 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
You people trusted a study from France. Sweet!

What do you mean "you people"?
MACS Offline
#271 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 12:18 PM EST
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Spoke with my doctor a few minutes ago. He said they're working on about 10 different things to combat the virus. The Malarial/zpak, as well as a few other anti-virals. Also said the blood pressure meds he takes may help stop it, which is another thing they're looking at.

*shrug*

A lot of people in the world that are much smarter than I am are working on this. Meanwhile... I'll be doing the ditch digging.
delta1 Offline
#272 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 12:31 PM EST
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we should expect that drugs intended as a cure are effective and safe...can't approve a drug that may cause severe and long-lasting side-effects...hope the FDA can figure out ways to accelerate the testing...

the numbers are beginning to look daunting...
ZRX1200 Online
#273 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 12:34 PM EST
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Al if they use existing drugs it would expedite the process.
delta1 Offline
#274 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 12:34 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
With factories shut down, people staying home, and sheltering in place... the corona virus has done more for the environment in a couple weeks than Greta Thunberg ever did. Anxious

Just saying... Laugh



gotta keep this plan in the playbook when the temps rise above 2 degrees C and sea levels overtake coastal cities...or will that be too late by then...

think that the reduction in vehicle use/burning of fossil fuels leading to the cleaner environment convince the last remaining climate change deniers?
victor809 Offline
#275 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 12:35 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
we should expect that drugs intended as a cure are effective and safe...can't approve a drug that may cause severe and long-lasting side-effects...hope the FDA can figure out ways to accelerate the testing...

the numbers are beginning to look daunting...


Honestly.... we can.

This has been my problem with pharma for a decade. And I was part of this problem. Everything has to be tested to reduce risk to the smallest level possible.

F#ck... I think a lot of people would be ok with their drugs sometimes having a chance of causing birth defects... if they were 1/2 the price and could be rolled out 10x faster.

We could roll any wild thing out we wanted.... let people self medicate to see what works... let your idiotic facebook friends be the ones to tell you what to use to get medical care if you want. if it works, great... if it doesn't and you die? meh.

But no one lets me run the country.
delta1 Offline
#276 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 12:36 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Al if they use existing drugs it would expedite the process.


hope so, Jamie...

and that they don't cause a black market for the drugs, reducing the supply for the sick who need it
delta1 Offline
#277 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 12:39 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Honestly.... we can.

This has been my problem with pharma for a decade. And I was part of this problem. Everything has to be tested to reduce risk to the smallest level possible.

F#ck... I think a lot of people would be ok with their drugs sometimes having a chance of causing birth defects... if they were 1/2 the price and could be rolled out 10x faster.

We could roll any wild thing out we wanted.... let people self medicate to see what works... let your idiotic facebook friends be the ones to tell you what to use to get medical care if you want. if it works, great... if it doesn't and you die? meh.

But no one lets me run the country.


my self medication experiments in the 70's obviously didn't kill me, but there were serious side effects that linger to this day...as is obvious to you all
MACS Offline
#278 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 1:07 PM EST
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^So that's why you're a liberal. Laugh

Sorry, Al... you just left that there.
KingoftheCove Offline
#279 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 1:08 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
^So that's why you're a liberal. Laugh

Sorry, Al... you just left that there.

Heh heh....
delta1 Offline
#280 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 4:04 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
^So that's why you're a liberal. Laugh

Sorry, Al... you just left that there.



Applause Applause

Herfing Beer
Pudding Mittens Offline
#281 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 5:26 PM EST
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If you're stuck in your house a lot nowadays, check out PlutoTV.

The "FAILARMY" live channel alone is worth installing PlutoTV. Sit back on your sofa, relax, and watch an endless stream of morons injure themselves. Great time-waster for Coronavirus lockdown time!

Oh, they have hundreds of other live channels too (all 24x7), plus hundreds (or is it thousands?) of on-demand movies and TV shows. All free.

Hard to beat free. I have their app installed on my Roku, and it's just great. My favorites are the live channels dedicated to 007 Bond movies, MST3K content and RiffTrax content.

Tons of other channels of every type imaginable. The live concert music channel is particularly nice, been loving that lately!

Just a great "plop down and kill time" app. It's like an entire cable system (including on-demand) all contained in a single app for free.

All legit too, no pirate crap. PlutoTV is owned by Viacom who properly licenses all content, so it's all nice and legal for everyone to use.

Yes, the live channels and on-demand programs have non-skippable commercials. The solution I use? Be working on a book, with a bookmark. Commercial break starts, mute and pick up book and continue reading where you left off. Break ends? Insert bookmark, set down book, unmute, watch. Works awesomely!
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CelticBomber Offline
#282 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 5:56 PM EST
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
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MST3K content and RiffTrax content.

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Joel or Mike? Think carefully before answering.....
tonygraz Offline
#283 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 7:35 PM EST
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I hope you are still not waiting for that answer.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#284 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 9:40 PM EST
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CelticBomber wrote:
Joel or Mike? Think carefully before answering.....

Both. All time periods are covered by Pluto's MST3K channel.

My opinion? Joel is better.
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CelticBomber Offline
#285 Posted: Mon, Mar 23 2020, 9:46 PM EST
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
Both. All time periods are covered by Pluto's MST3K channel.

My opinion? Joel is better.
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You made a wise choice my friend! I thought I was going to have to bite your ear off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMNaTApbo8E
Pudding Mittens Offline
#286 Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2020, 1:12 AM EST
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Laura Ingraham's show on FNC tonight (10PM timeslot) had some interesting stuff.

She again talked about hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin and how they show promise.

She interviewed a guy who was strugging with coronavirus for 9 days and thought he was going to die. Fever and difficulty breathing, no conventional meds helped. He heard about hydroxychloroquine and asked his doc to off-label approve it for him. The doc did. He didn't mention azithromycin, but recall that in the French study, hydroxychloroquine alone did great things (57% cure versus 12.5% control, with 100% cure for the combination). Also he may have been given both, but just didn't mention the azithromycin, no way to know unless she follows up with him in future shows and asks directly.

He took the first dose Friday night and went to sleep. In the morning on Saturday he said he woke up and took a deep full breath. What the hell? Then he noticed the fever was gone, and he felt like he had nothing, felt totally normal. He kept taking his doses, and he told her on the show tonight that's he's being discharged from the hospital soon, I think he said tomorrow. Most hospitals don't discharge unless you've had two negative COVID-19 tests in a row, which means his body is probably clear of detectable virus... just like in the French study. Interesting, no?

I predicted that anecdotal successes would start pouring in this week. This looks like the first one, hopefully of many.

I suspect there will be many more to follow this week. Laura also interviewed an infectious disease specialist at LSU who said her hospital and other area hospitals are giving hydroxychloroquine to quite a number of patients right now, and are watching to see what happens. Again no mention of azithromycin, but maybe they're giving it too and she just didn't mention it.

Azithromycin is so well-known, widely-used and quite low in side effects that I would think that, given the French study's impressive results with both, that many docs would give both, not just hydroxychloroquine alone. I don't know what the deal is with that. It might be clarified in the coming days though.

Keep your fingers crossed.
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victor809 Offline
#287 Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2020, 8:58 AM EST
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Weird coincidence that you would post this literally 5 minutes before I would read this:

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-woman-husband-died-chloroquine-warns-not-to-trust-trump-2020-3

Dude and his wife got a bunch of messages that chloroquine was safe and tested (from twitler, from Fox news, from facebook) and decided to self medicate with some chloroquine they got from what appears to be an aquarium kit.

You've heard, I'm assuming, the phrase "the poison is in the dose"?

People need to lay off pushing these drugs on news channels until that sh#t is properly tested and released.

Hell.... or not. I guess I don't care if more people die of dumbness.
USNGunner Offline
#288 Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2020, 9:14 AM EST
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
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Laura Ingraham's show on FNC tonight (10PM timeslot) had some interesting stuff.



I didn't see that, thanks for the heads up. I'm waiting to see. If more than half the cases come out that well that would be incredible. We will see.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#289 Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2020, 9:22 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Weird coincidence that you would post this literally 5 minutes before I would read this:

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-woman-husband-died-chloroquine-warns-not-to-trust-trump-2020-3

Dude and his wife got a bunch of messages that chloroquine was safe and tested (from twitler, from Fox news, from facebook) and decided to self medicate with some chloroquine they got from what appears to be an aquarium kit.

You've heard, I'm assuming, the phrase "the poison is in the dose"?

People need to lay off pushing these drugs on news channels until that sh#t is properly tested and released.

Hell.... or not. I guess I don't care if more people die of dumbness.

No one told these morons it was safe to take fish parasite medicine....

They didn't even take chloroquine... They took a medicine made for fish that happened to contain chloroquine as one of the ingredients...

The real news story should've read "pair of morons miraculously survived for many years before finally succumbing to moronism"...
victor809 Offline
#290 Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2020, 9:34 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
No one told these morons it was safe to take fish parasite medicine....

They didn't even take chloroquine... They took a medicine made for fish that happened to contain chloroquine as one of the ingredients...

The real news story should've read "pair of morons miraculously survived for many years before finally succumbing to moronism"...


Only one of the morons survived... so far.
From what I read they didn't take a combination med or anything. they took choroquine. Just was packaged at whatever dosage is used for anti-parasitic use in fish tanks. Which is.... who knows? And is also unregulated so may have a wide margin of error....even if he bothered converting back to human-safe dosage.
Gene363 Offline
#291 Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2020, 9:43 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
25th anniversary was Friday and we decided to stay home.. kinda a bummer but saved a couple thousand bucks i guess... we'll do somethin when everyone stops freaking out... Mellow


Congratulations!
Gene363 Offline
#292 Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2020, 9:45 AM EST
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Some positive new on Covid-19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qInCz53q-xo

The experience of countries other than China and Italy with preventing the spread of the virus, especially in hospitals.
teedubbya Offline
#293 Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2020, 9:49 AM EST
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Laura Ingrim. Oh nevermind.
victor809 Offline
#294 Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2020, 10:34 AM EST
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So apparently now we're talking about lifting the quarantines?

I'd be ok with that. It would be nice to be able to dine in at a restaurant, instead of have to grab takeout at the door.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#295 Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2020, 11:28 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Dude and his wife got a bunch of messages that chloroquine was safe and tested (from twitler, from Fox news, from facebook) and decided to self medicate with some chloroquine they got from what appears to be an aquarium kit.

Darwin Award winner.

Really, if:

1. you can't be arsed to do 5 minutes of Googling to find the dosage is critical and there are dangerous side effects

2. you ignore the Fox News and other MSM disclaimers of "there can be dangerous side effects, get a doctor to do it!"

3. you rely on medical/drug info from unqualified morons parroting crap on Twitter and Facebook

...well, you're just dumb, and there's no fix for that.

victor809 wrote:
People need to lay off pushing these drugs on news channels until that sh#t is properly tested and released.

I disagree. It cleanses the gene pool of oxygen thieves, which is a useful function. Better yet:

1. they self-cleanse, requiring nobody else to lift a finger to make it happen. Convenient!

2. There ends up being more food, water, oxygen, land and other resources for useful, non-moron people

3. If they weren't done reproducing, it also reduces or eliminates propagation of their idiocy into future generations.

Total win. What's not to like?

victor809 wrote:
Hell.... or not. I guess I don't care if more people die of dumbness.

Yup, exactly, there ya go!
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delta1 Offline
#296 Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2020, 11:29 AM EST
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yeah...freakin doctors and all their scientific studies and research always telling us what to do...whadda they know...Ima go out and party like it's 1999...don't care if anybody's coughing...


can't have a cure that's worse than the disease!!!
victor809 Offline
#297 Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2020, 12:04 PM EST
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Pudding Mittens wrote:


1. they self-cleanse, requiring nobody else to lift a finger to make it happen. Convenient!

2. There ends up being more food, water, oxygen, land and other resources for useful, non-moron people


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The woman is in critical condition taking up hospital resources during a pandemic.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#298 Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2020, 1:00 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
The woman is in critical condition taking up hospital resources during a pandemic.

Unfortunate. I do hope that situation ends soon, either:

1. She gets discharged and stops taking up hospital resources.
2. She dies and stops taking up hospital resources plus one less moron in the world.

Not only does #2 have all the benefits listed above, but it can also prevent her from wasting future hospital resources.

For example, if she recovers now, then years from now she might hear from some moron on Facebook that drinking bleach cures cancer or some other retarded schitt and she'll believe it and drink it, and she'll probably waste more hospital resources. If she's already been dead for years, she can't do that.
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victor809 Offline
#299 Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2020, 1:29 PM EST
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
Unfortunate. I do hope that situation ends soon, either:


I mean you can hope....

Doesn't mean it will do either. For all we know she may be in critical care for months. Our hopes and dreams are pretty much irrelevant.
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#300 Posted: Tue, Mar 24 2020, 1:55 PM EST
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I'm expecting another interesting occurrence in about 1 week.
All the current catastrophe has occurred within a single month... small businesses being closed, hourly workers not getting any wages, AirBnB/Hotels not getting much business....

That's all going to have an impact on the rent payments the first of the month.

I've heard stories of AirBnB "owners" in big cities actually being renters illegally subletting multiple listings through AirBnB. I don't know what percentage of the rental market that is made up of, but if it's of any significant size, that will contribute...

Essentially around the 5th of the month there will be a real income gap shifted to property owners as renters who are unable to pay their rent default.

This could be interesting.
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