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teedubbya Offline
#51 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 3:18 PM EST
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Can I quote you on that?
frankj1 Offline
#52 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 3:26 PM EST
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I used to say that a lot here, mind if I quote you, or, don't quote me, but....
Might have to dust off them two.
MACS Offline
#53 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 3:55 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
You just watch the ones that you agree with. Stay safe and healthy brother. Beer


Well, you absolutely cannot deny the spin on that one. Couple so dumb they eat fish tank cleaner... media and TDS sufferers blame it on Trump.

Good grief.
delta1 Offline
#54 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 4:17 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Delta, it's words. I will not advocate criminalizing words. Are they bad, of course. But let's not set a standard that undermines freedom of speech. That is a slippery slope. I don't want to lose my ability to call Opel a stoner, or Tail an intellectual idiot.



absolutely...freedom of speech, freedom to assemble and freedom of the press are three foundational stones on which the USA is built...

that's why morons can say whatever they want, as long as their words don't violate legal standards, like shouting FIRE in a crowded theater, libel or slander, conspiracy to commit a crime, terrorist threats, threats against the POTUS, or treason...our civilized nation can enact reasonable time, place and manner guidelines to regulate those three primary freedoms, and have done so reluctantly and sparingly in our history

these are bright lines limiting free speech in specific cases...and luckily for us most know where those lines are...


what about the crime boss who speaks in code...who doesn't actually say the specific thing like "go and burn down Joey's house and kill his wife and kids". Instead, he says "I got a problem with Joey. He's been causing me problems"
delta1 Offline
#55 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 4:25 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Well, you absolutely cannot deny the spin on that one. Couple so dumb they eat fish tank cleaner... media and TDS sufferers blame it on Trump.

Good grief.



but for Trump's public statements, would they have?
HockeyDad Offline
#56 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 4:32 PM EST
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They ate fish tank cleaner. Why are we feigning outrage?
delta1 Offline
#57 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 4:36 PM EST
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yeah, Opel was right ...


on Easter Sunday, everyone should attend their churches and party like they've been DYING to...
fiddler898 Offline
#58 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 4:58 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
but for Trump's public statements, would they have?


No fair using reason.
MACS Offline
#59 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 5:21 PM EST
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fiddler898 wrote:
No fair using reason.


Reason? HA! It was their LACK of reason, not Trump's statement.

C'mon, man!
teedubbya Offline
#60 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 5:25 PM EST
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It’s amazing g to me how critical some are when it’s not their guy yet so forgiving they are when it is. It’s really really odd and I think most do t recognize it in themselves.

If anyone is saying trump went to their house and made them taje fish cleaner they are idiots.

If anyone think trumps statements have absolutely nothing to do with it even when the idiots said it did they are idiots.

And the people that took it are idiots.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#61 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 6:06 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
but for Trump's public statements, would they have?

without trump they likely would've done something dumber... as previously stated, the real news story here is that this pair of idiots miraculously managed to survive on earth for as long as they did...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#62 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 6:08 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
yeah, Opel was right ...


on Easter Sunday, everyone should attend their churches and party like they've been DYING to...

definitely didn't say that...

I do think we should throw some kind of a mayonnaise festival at some point and start weeding at least a few genetically inferior people out...
HockeyDad Offline
#63 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 6:50 PM EST
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If they attend church on Easter, one would think their God would protect them.

I’m not going to church on Easter. I am going to prepare a nice Easter brunch. None of you are invited. Nothing personal.
teedubbya Offline
#64 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 6:56 PM EST
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Will there be French toast?
frankj1 Offline
#65 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 7:02 PM EST
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a votre sante
DrafterX Offline
#66 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 7:10 PM EST
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Is that gay-homoism code for somethin..?? Huh
frankj1 Offline
#67 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 7:47 PM EST
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I dunno, don't speak French
delta1 Offline
#68 Posted: Wed, Mar 25 2020, 8:23 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
definitely didn't say that...

I do think we should throw some kind of a mayonnaise festival at some point and start weeding at least a few genetically inferior people out...


I should've put your statement (paraphrasing) about morons taking themselves out into that post...that's what I was referring to when I acknowledged you were right...

and then connecting that to attending a mass gathering during a viral eruption after the Wizard of Alls tells them they should end their self isolation that day...



sigh...it's always crystal clear in my head, but doesn't always come out that way
DrMaddVibe Offline
#69 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 8:40 AM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Al Covid-19 is still a Chinese virus........and the Chinese are an ethnicity not a race,Asians would be a race.So calling this a Chinese virus,since it did originate in China,is technically correct.If it had originated in Ireland I would not have a problem with it being labelled an Irish virus......it is what it is



By the lefty crowd here they'll have you believing that he puts his fingers at the corners of both eyes and raises his lips to say "Chiree Floo" or "Me love you long time"...complete and utter nonsense from them. The President has a solid team around him that is doing their jobs quite effectively despite what the mouth breathing rage machines here rant about. Have to say the stellar reporters at CNN (which ironically called it the Chinese Coronavirus first!) and the "smart" people here that never have anything useful or positive to say are what keeps me laughing. So, who wants to get in the way of their march off the cliff following Pedo Joe? Let them scream and act like the big mouthed know-it-alls they've proven from any issue to be, sit back and watch them play their hand. Comical. I would much rather have the US leadership with an optimistic outlook and a true passion for this nation than a cheerleader squawking about radically transforming America and a bleak take on who and what we are as a nation. Let's look at what Obammy has to say on the twitter machine...

Barack Obama@BarackObama 23h

These are the burdens our medical heroes already face in NYC. It's only going to get harder across the country. Another reason to maintain social distancing policies at least until we have comprehensive testing in place. Not just for our sake—for theirs.

“****’s Really Going to Hit the Fan”: Inside New York’s Overburdened Hospitals
With more than nine thousand six hundred confirmed cases in New York City as of Sunday, hospitals are already struggling to keep pace.
newyorker.com

His link to the newyorker.com link shows the mobile mortuary they're putting up. Henny Penny the sky is falling!!! RUN!!!! BUY UP ALL THE TOILET PAPER!!!!

Contrast that positivity and spin that beany. Damn, our President said he wishes, hopes and wants the US to be open for business by Easter not that he's sending in the National Guard into your homes and shuffling you off to coal mines!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#70 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 8:45 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
They ate fish tank cleaner. Why are we feigning outrage?



Think of the fish dammit!!!!!horse
JadeRose Offline
#71 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 9:13 AM EST
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This is all why I lean Libertarian. If a person listen to the words of a moron, interprets them in a moronic way, performs a moronic act because of it, and dies in a moronic fashion without hurting anyone else? I'm good with that. Tragic? I suppose, if those are your people but you can't save morons from themselves and we shouldn't necessarily try. Gene pool and whatnot.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#72 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 10:29 AM EST
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Why are there morons in Gene's pool? Is that a pH imbalance thingy?
teedubbya Offline
#73 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 10:36 AM EST
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I didn’t even know he had a pool yet glad I wasn’t invited.
JadeRose Offline
#74 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 10:36 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Why are there morons in Gene's pool? Is that a pH imbalance thingy?



He lives in South Carolina. Bound to be a few swimming around
teedubbya Offline
#75 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 10:53 AM EST
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Maybe we should glue a mirror on the bottom to get rid of them more quickly.
tailgater Offline
#76 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 11:12 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:

BUT, somehow I think you may have been being humorous pointing out, yet again, my use of quotation marks when their need is not obvious. If that is the case, disregard the above response...HA!


Quotation marks used to quote people are obviously fine.
Quotes used as proverbial air quotes are used in jest.
Calling the haters "haters" diminishes the term.
Maybe your intent. Maybe not.
I'll leave that to the "smart" people...
tailgater Offline
#77 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 11:14 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
It’s amazing g to me how critical some are when it’s not their guy yet so forgiving they are when it is. It’s really really odd and I think most do t recognize it in themselves.

If anyone is saying trump went to their house and made them taje fish cleaner they are idiots.

If anyone think trumps statements have absolutely nothing to do with it even when the idiots said it did they are idiots.

And the people that took it are idiots.



Yeah.
It's not like any Dallas cops were shot because of something Obammy said.
That would be idiotic.
teedubbya Offline
#78 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 11:20 AM EST
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Yeah it’s not as if you have the ability to comprehend it applies to both parties supporters so think a but Obama response somehow adds or subtracts from the post.

Cut and paste my post in to an Obama period post and edit to fit. I’ll agree.

Both sides are blind and justify anything. You just happen to only see one which is what I’m talking about.
Buckwheat Offline
#79 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 11:28 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Oh that part is true. The az folks were dumb asses. Applause

Calling to fill the churches at Easter is irresponsible though. Just as dumb as ingesting fish cleaner or turning to Laura Ingram for news.
Confused
tailgater Offline
#80 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 11:59 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Yeah it’s not as if you have the ability to comprehend it applies to both parties supporters so think a but Obama response somehow adds or subtracts from the post.

Cut and paste my post in to an Obama period post and edit to fit. I’ll agree.

Both sides are blind and justify anything. You just happen to only see one which is what I’m talking about.


Dang.
And here I thought I was agreeing with you.
teedubbya Offline
#81 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 12:05 PM EST
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I guess I misread it or took it the wrong way. I took it as another but bammy response. When I’m wrong I’m wrong. Must be my TDS.

But remember every time the term TDS is used a retarded kid gets an erection. So I just gave someone wood.

And trump really really wants to get erected but it’s not his turn in line yet.
CelticBomber Offline
#82 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 12:20 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
absolutely...freedom of speech, freedom to assemble and freedom of the press are three foundational stones on which the USA is built...

that's why morons can say whatever they want, as long as their words don't violate legal standards, like shouting FIRE in a crowded theater, libel or slander, conspiracy to commit a crime, terrorist threats, threats against the POTUS, or treason...our civilized nation can enact reasonable time, place and manner guidelines to regulate those three primary freedoms, and have done so reluctantly and sparingly in our history

these are bright lines limiting free speech in specific cases...and luckily for us most know where those lines are...


what about the crime boss who speaks in code...who doesn't actually say the specific thing like "go and burn down Joey's house and kill his wife and kids". Instead, he says "I got a problem with Joey. He's been causing me problems"



I always wince when people use that particular quote.... Holmes himself later came to regret that decision. A guy mailed out flier's to men who had been drafted saying basically "Resist the draft. assert your rights." A bunch of people went to jail under the espionage act for voicing dissent against the draft and our participation in WW1. Some had simply signed petitions saying they would vote against a governor who supported the war. Holmes equated their voicing of their opinion the same as "The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic. ..."

While I agree with the quote I can't separate it from the well from which it was drawn.

I get the same feeling every time I hear someone say 'Money is the root of all evil!" when the actual quote is 'The love of money is the root of all evil."

Context in general and historical context in particular are so important and so few people understand that anymore. The lack of historical context when it comes to partisan politics, the feminist movement today, the state of the liberal arts at Universities and the whole far left/right ideology of today can be largely blamed for this.
delta1 Offline
#83 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 12:22 PM EST
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I don't recall Obama saying that shooting cops would solve the problem, but Trump did say those medicines were effective and "game changers"...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#84 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 12:46 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I don't recall Obama saying that shooting cops would solve the problem, but Trump did say those medicines were effective and "game changers"...


There's this...

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/obama-war-on-cops-police-advocacy-group-225291


At least have the gall to quote him accurately.

"“HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains – Thank You!,” Trump tweeted Saturday morning. “Hopefully they will BOTH … be put in use IMMEDIATELY. PEOPLE ARE DYING, MOVE FAST, and GOD BLESS EVERYONE!”"

https://nypost.com/2020/03/21/trump-urges-americans-to-take-game-changing-drug-cocktail-to-fight-coronavirus/

There's a big difference between a chance and effective.
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#85 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 1:12 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I guess I misread it or took it the wrong way. I took it as another but bammy response. When I’m wrong I’m wrong. Must be my TDS.

But remember every time the term TDS is used a retarded kid gets an erection. So I just gave someone wood.

And trump really really wants to get erected but it’s not his turn in line yet.

Poor TW... Riddled with STD's and has dyslexia...
teedubbya Offline
#86 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 1:16 PM EST
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At least I have a small pen1s
tailgater Offline
#87 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 5:24 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I don't recall Obama saying that shooting cops would solve the problem, but Trump did say those medicines were effective and "game changers"...


Holy
Crap.


I like you delta. I really do.
But you've got nuthin on a bag of bricks sometimes.
tailgater Offline
#88 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 5:25 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
At least I have a small pen1s


Give it back.
delta1 Offline
#89 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 5:36 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
There's this...

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/obama-war-on-cops-police-advocacy-group-225291


At least have the gall to quote him accurately.

"“HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains – Thank You!,” Trump tweeted Saturday morning. “Hopefully they will BOTH … be put in use IMMEDIATELY. PEOPLE ARE DYING, MOVE FAST, and GOD BLESS EVERYONE!”"

https://nypost.com/2020/03/21/trump-urges-americans-to-take-game-changing-drug-cocktail-to-fight-coronavirus/

There's a big difference between a chance and effective.


re Obama:

did you read the whole article? that was an opinion by a head of a police advocacy group...not Obama's words


re: Trump:

he said "real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine."

the last eight words in that quote indicates his degree of confidence about the drugs' efficacy...followed by his aspiration that both meds be put to use immediately...wouldn't say that unless he thinks they are effective...

like "Trump has a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of US politics" would mean that someone who said that believes Trump is doing an effective job ... otherwise why say that?

and he may've been right...let's hope that the tests of the two meds (and others) currently underway by the FDA prove that Trump was right
HockeyDad Offline
#90 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 5:52 PM EST
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We should modernize the expression to “Like shouting TOILET PAPER in a crowded Costco”.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#91 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 6:25 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
re Obama:

did you read the whole article? that was an opinion by a head of a police advocacy group...not Obama's words


Why yes I did. I should've known you'd try to make it a GOTCHA post. To deny that he didn't create the atmosphere like the LEO were saying in that article...cue the Beer Summit ring a bell? If I had a son he'd look like Trayvon Martin ring a bell?
delta1 wrote:


[quote=delta1]re: Trump:

he said "real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine."

the last eight words in that quote indicates his degree of confidence about the drugs' efficacy...followed by his aspiration that both meds be put to use immediately...wouldn't say that unless he thinks they are effective...

like "Trump has a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of US politics" would mean that someone who said that believes Trump is doing an effective job ... otherwise why say that...l

and he may've been right...let's hope that the tests of the two meds (and others) currently underway by the FDA prove that Trump was right


That's NOT what you said though. You said he called them effective. Based on the reports out of Europe and Australia I would venture to say that he might be right in that they could be a game changer. Stop it with the lying. Hell, the other day one of you went off the cliff when the President was joking that the presstitutes weren't practicing social distancing and that they had to leave. He was smiling and laughing when he said it even. The guy can't even catch a break when he's joking around with you.
delta1 Offline
#92 Posted: Thu, Mar 26 2020, 6:37 PM EST
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pointless to debate any further...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#93 Posted: Fri, Mar 27 2020, 7:30 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
pointless to debate any further...


Because you lack logic AND rationality.

You're just a water carrier for someone else's anger.
Speyside Offline
#94 Posted: Fri, Mar 27 2020, 8:00 AM EST
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There will be a vaccine/medication that is effective on COVID19. The real question is when. Since I believe the medical/science community I disagree with the president. Unless we get lucky it will take about 18 months. I do not share his optimism.
delta1 Offline
#95 Posted: Fri, Mar 27 2020, 5:25 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Because you lack logic AND rationality.

You're just a water carrier for someone else's anger.


ok...you want me to respond...

if you actually read the entire article you would have read that another opinion was that other reasons existed that led to the shootings. This contrary opinion was expressed by a leader of a police union. Here's a quote from the middle of the article, after the National Ass'n Police Organization's director put the blame on Obama in the beginning of the article:

"DC Police Union Secretary Jimmy White admitted there was a clear racial disparity in the criminal justice system, and police officers needed better relationships with their communities.

"To put all the blame on one aspect of the problem is incorrect. You can't just say it's only Obama that has created this culture," White told POLITICO on Friday. "We have to look into communities, into employment, we have to look into everything." "



and when one says something has a real chance to be the biggest game changer in the history of medicine...he's saying a one percent chance...a ten percent chance...a fifty percent chance...a 75 percent chance ...a 95 percent chance ...a hundred percent chance...that it will be effective...that the combo of drugs would have a chance to be effective

one doesn't add that level of hype if the chance of its effectiveness is minimal...

he's not saying that it has a chance to make him a wad of cash...a chance to smell nice...a chance to taste good...a chance to kill people...he even said history of medicine

the purpose of medicine is to have some effectiveness in making sick people healthier
DrMaddVibe Offline
#96 Posted: Fri, Mar 27 2020, 6:55 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
ok...you want me to respond...



No, actually I don't.

I didn't even bother to read the rest of your last post.
delta1 Offline
#97 Posted: Fri, Mar 27 2020, 7:24 PM EST
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I know you disagree with my political views and opinions, just as I do yours...not much chance that either of us will convince the other that we are right...


facts do matter...what facts led you to conclude I was angry?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#98 Posted: Sun, Mar 29 2020, 11:23 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
facts do matter...what facts led you to conclude I was angry?


All of them, you petty ****.
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#99 Posted: Sun, Mar 29 2020, 11:52 PM EST
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Group hug???
Celtic’s ready...
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#100 Posted: Mon, Mar 30 2020, 12:19 PM EST
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Hey Doc *************************************************************************************

Got him good for ya Delta!
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