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How Covid Kills
Gene363 Offline
#1 Posted:
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Dr. Duc Vuong, World's #1 Weight Loss Surgeon, Author of 13 books, explains how coronavirus kills its victims.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J0d59dd-qM
MACS Offline
#2 Posted:
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That dude said the corona virus is your pimp.

Dang.
victor809 Offline
#3 Posted:
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Not to ask the obvious, but why would the "world's#1 weight loss surgeon" be the one who should be giving this overview?
frankj1 Offline
#4 Posted:
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you just asked the obvious...
MACS Offline
#5 Posted:
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That's what I ask when I see a handful of chiropractors (not even a medical doctor) on youtube giving advice on diets and nutrition and stuff.

However... this guy is an actual Medical Doctor, with a degree, a residency, etc... just because he specializes in weight loss surgery doesn't mean he isn't well versed in general practice, right? I mean, most doctors go through the same MD school and then either go into general practice or a specialty, right?
victor809 Offline
#6 Posted:
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No, you're right... He's still a medical Dr.

Just odd to me. We have actual epidemiologists from the CDC and WHO who tell us about this disease.

But the one people want to watch is a weight loss Dr?
delta1 Offline
#7 Posted:
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at least he's not Chinese...he's believable...
Speyside Offline
#8 Posted:
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Victor, though unlikely, it is entirely possible that Dr DUC is an expert.

Bill Gates has no medical background, yet he is one of the most forward thinking and knowledgeable people in the world on pandemics, pandemic preparedness, and pandemic vaccine development in the world.
MACS Offline
#9 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
No, you're right... He's still a medical Dr.

Just odd to me. We have actual epidemiologists from the CDC and WHO who tell us about this disease.

But the one people want to watch is a weight loss Dr?


I just wanted to highlight that part... prolly the only time you've said that to me. LOL

Does it matter where you get your information if it's accurate? Watch the video. I don't think he contradicts what has been said. He's pretty adamant that it's serious, and he explains it in layman's terms.

Maybe that last part is the key.
MACS Offline
#10 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
at least he's not Chinese...he's believable...


Plenty of chinese people that were believable. I say were because the emperor over there shut them up. I don't believe a damn thing they say, now.

Did they find that billionaire who called Xi a clown?
KingoftheCove Online
#11 Posted:
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His delivery is a bit forced and rough.
He states up front that his patient base is particularly ulenerable (obese), hence his extra interest and concern.
Mr. Jones Offline
#12 Posted:
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#10 Macs...

Nope...

I'm purty sure he just "UP AND DISAPPEARED"...

IMAGINE THAT...
JUST LIKE CENTRAL AMERICA IN all of THE 1980's...
Here today...gone tomorrow...

Just ask USNgunner...he was there...or he was to busy looking out for fer-de-lance's and Bushmaster vipers while sitting around a camp fire...AT NIGHT...ALL DRUNKED UP..

AIN'T???
USNGunner Offline
#13 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:

Just ask USNgunner...he was there...or he was to busy looking out for fer-de-lance's and Bushmaster vipers while sitting around a camp fire...AT NIGHT...ALL DRUNKED UP..

AIN'T???


LOL.

Nope. Hate snakes. Had an 870 for those.

A lot of folks got ghosted down there though. On a regular basis. Thousands. Actual thousands. Not good times.
KingoftheCove Online
#14 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
No, you're right... He's still a medical Dr.

Just odd to me. We have actual epidemiologists from the CDC and WHO who tell us about this disease.

But the one people want to watch is a weight loss Dr?

Eh........for Drafter, I’m gonna interject.
Epidemiologists study Incidence, Prevalence and Mortality, and then overlay other data bits, depending on what they are attempting to predict/project or analyze after the fact.

Etiologists study causation, etc.
When you have GOOD data for both, you can implement fairly effective containment, and ultimately treatment and prevention measures.

If you’re missing one piece, your kinda fuqed a little.

If you’re missing both, as the world was initially, thanks to the Chinese policies, well............you see what you get.
frankj1 Offline
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Eh........for Drafter, I’m gonna interject.
Epidemiologists study Incidence, Prevalence and Mortality, and then overlay other data bits, depending on what they are attempting to predict/project or analyze after the fact.

Etiologists study causation, etc.
When you have GOOD data for both, you can implement fairly effective containment, and ultimately treatment and prevention measures.

If you’re missing one piece, your kinda fuqed a little.

If you’re missing both, as the world was initially, thanks to the Chinese policies, well............you see what you get.

yeah...No School!!!
KingoftheCove Online
#16 Posted:
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No gaddam State Parks!
KingoftheCove Online
#17 Posted:
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Gotta hike in to da surf spot now!
Too old for dat chit!
MACS Offline
#18 Posted:
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When I was in HS smoking pot and skipping school would get you in a world of hurt.

Kids today... they're living the dream!! Pot is legal and school is canceled.
USNGunner Offline
#19 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
When I was in HS smoking pot and skipping school would get you in a world of hurt.

Kids today... they're living the dream!! Pot is legal and school is canceled.



God damn. Never looked at it like that. Spot on buddy, spot on! Applause
Mr. Jones Offline
#20 Posted:
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I saw two 14 year old boys eating and laughing around 11am a few days ago at a Turkey Hill convienence store
about 2 days ago....one was oblivious...the other watched intensely my trash lotto ticket antics and was calculating his future earnings...

One smart dude and one dumb f*k...both stoned.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#21 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
I'm purty sure he just "UP AND DISAPPEARED"...

IMAGINE THAT...
JUST LIKE CENTRAL AMERICA IN all of THE 1980's...
Here today...gone tomorrow...

Free helicopter rides!

(Yes I know that was South America not Central America, you nit-pickers!)

USNGunner wrote:
Nope. Hate snakes. Had an 870 for those.

Great gun. My favorite variant has the extended-capacity mag tube and a recoil-reducing top-folding stock with pistol grip.
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USNGunner Offline
#22 Posted:
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
Great gun. My favorite variant has the extended-capacity mag tube and a recoil-reducing top-folding stock with pistol grip.
.


That'll work.
tonygraz Offline
#23 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
When I was in HS smoking pot and skipping school would get you in a world of hurt.

Kids today... they're living the dream!! Pot is legal and school is canceled.



But they virtually can't get away with anything - big brother and his cameras are watching.
danmdevries Offline
#24 Posted:
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He explains well what is so disturbing about this.

And how we can't treat it.
MACS Offline
#25 Posted:
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But, Danm... haven't we always been so hindered by pneumonia? Isn't this why pneumonia kills the old and infirm?

The problem is so many at once, no?
teedubbya Offline
#26 Posted:
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This isn’t your grandpappys pneumonia. So many at once is definitely one facet of the issue but this is a brutal virus in and of itself unless you are one of the lucky that it does next to nothing. The human body is amazing.
Mr. Jones Offline
#27 Posted:
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#21 pudding

Nitpicking???

Do your research...

It was B.O.T.H. SOUTH AMERICA ANNNNDDDD
IN CENTRAL AMERICA IN THE 80's...

You just hear way more about Chile in S.A. because it was so bad there...but it was going on in C.A. too...on a lesser scale but just as real...
victor809 Offline
#28 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I just wanted to highlight that part... prolly the only time you've said that to me. LOL

Does it matter where you get your information if it's accurate? Watch the video. I don't think he contradicts what has been said. He's pretty adamant that it's serious, and he explains it in layman's terms.

Maybe that last part is the key.


The fact that this is not the first time you've made this joke sort of contradicts your first sentence?
victor809 Offline
#29 Posted:
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Eh........for Drafter, I’m gonna interject.
Epidemiologists study Incidence, Prevalence and Mortality, and then overlay other data bits, depending on what they are attempting to predict/project or analyze after the fact.

Etiologists study causation, etc.
When you have GOOD data for both, you can implement fairly effective containment, and ultimately treatment and prevention measures.

If you’re missing one piece, your kinda fuqed a little.

If you’re missing both, as the world was initially, thanks to the Chinese policies, well............you see what you get.


Heck, I'd have settled for a pathologist. :)

anyway... if he's right, he's right, if he's wrong Danm'll tell us.

My main reason for pointing it out is this is how you get these damn "Dr Oz" types.
KingoftheCove Online
#30 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
But, Danm... haven't we always been so hindered by pneumonia? Isn't this why pneumonia kills the old and infirm?

The problem is so many at once, no?

As has been noted, it’s the speed of the decline, which is MUCH quicker than the declines noted with “traditional” viral or bacterial pneumonia.
Like Dr. Vuong said, ARDS sets in really quick.........then it’s just a cascading downward spiraling nightmare.
tailgater Offline
#31 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
at least he's not Chinese...he's believable...


Read that in a fortune cookie.
USNGunner Offline
#32 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Read that in a fortune cookie.


Fake news.
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