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Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 1:39 PM EST
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In these trying times, are you doing anything to strengthen your immune system?

What we have been doing for the past year and a half is eating a low inflammation diet. That means pasture raised organic meats and eggs, grass fed organic dairy, organic cruciferous vegitables, organic dark leafy greens, healthy fats like olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, plus raw nuts, seeds and avacados. No sugar, no grains, no starches. I saw a recent study that found that just 100 grams of glucose/fructose a day can lower your white blood cell count by 40%, plus many viruses and cancers require sugar to thrive. Many cardiologists now believe that inflammation due to sugar, grains and highly processed seed oils (Canola, soy, corn, peanut, sunflower, etc.), is the actual cause of heart disease, and not fat or colesterol. A high inflammation diet is now also being linked to the development of Type 2 Diabetes, arthritis, dementia and Alzheimer's. The average American costumes 300 to 400 grams of high inflammation carbs per day, not to mention high inflammation seed oils and factory raised meats, eggs and dairy.

We are also consuming fermented foods (sauerkraut, kimchi, organic whole milk yoghurt) to boast our good gut bateria.

Short fasts have been shown to greatly enhance one's immune system, so we are attempting to do three 18 to 20 hour fasts per week.

As an extra precaution right now, we are supplementing with A, C, D3, E, zinc, and selenium.

Finally, after reviewing a study that found that alcohol depresses and damages the immune system, we have given up consuming alcohol for the duration.

Equally important is to avoid stress and get enough quality sleep.

Are the rest of you doing anything to boast your immune system, or just hoping to avoid contact with COVID19?

David
Gene363 Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 1:47 PM EST
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Sleep
victor809 Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 1:51 PM EST
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Making sure I drink at least one serving of alcohol every day while daydreaming of the sweet sweet release of death.
victor809 Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 1:54 PM EST
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If you really want to give your immune system a boost, follow this guy's regimen

https://www.indy100.com/article/coronavirus-challenge-tiktok-larz-twitter-9426776
KingoftheCove Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 1:57 PM EST
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I’m trying to smoke better cigars...
KingoftheCove Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 1:57 PM EST
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I think it’s working so far...
CelticBomber Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 2:09 PM EST
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Punishing my liver so my other organs get more vitamins.
teedubbya Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 2:12 PM EST
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Elderberry... saw an interview on Rachel Maddow where a dude was nearly dead, took some elderberry and now is running marathons. His medical team won’t weigh in on it but I saw him. He was smiling and stuff.


I keed I keed. Relax.

Sam Bicol is good for you. I don’t thing free radicals are likely to do much if we have no immunity at all.
teedubbya Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 2:13 PM EST
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Sambucol
victor809 Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 2:20 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Elderberry... saw an interview on Rachel Maddow where a dude was nearly dead, took some elderberry and now is running marathons. His medical team won’t weigh in on it but I saw him. He was smiling and stuff.


I keed I keed. Relax.

Sam Bicol is good for you. I don’t thing free radicals are likely to do much if we have no immunity at all.


snicker
SirKnight Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 2:49 PM EST
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You guys are way off, you gotta spank the monkey, pull the pud, choke the chicken, peel the banana, visit Hanna and her five sisters, flog molly or what ever you wanna call it. Your dopamines and endorphins get released and you get the poisons out of your body.
fishinguitarman Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 3:00 PM EST
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Zinc
CelticBomber Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 3:01 PM EST
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SirKnight wrote:
You guys are way off, you gotta spank the monkey, pull the pud, choke the chicken, peel the banana, visit Hanna and her five sisters, flog molly or what ever you wanna call it. Your dopamines and endorphins get released and you get the poisons out of your body.



You think we needed a Pandemic for this? I'm WAY ahead of the curve....
victor809 Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 3:02 PM EST
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CelticBomber wrote:
You think we needed a Pandemic for this? I'm WAY ahead of the curve....


That's why you're still healthy.
MACS Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 3:05 PM EST
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Orange juice. It cures everything. Duh...

And to be sure it's sterile... add vodka.
CelticBomber Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 3:09 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
That's why you're still healthy.



and low on socks...
MACS Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 3:10 PM EST
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CelticBomber wrote:
and low on socks...


You can wash those, ya know...
Pudding Mittens Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 3:17 PM EST
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MedCram's COVID-19 daily update videos have repeatedly commented on evidence that sufficient sleep is very important and that hot baths or sauna can probably helps greatly too. He cites and shows on-screen studies that back it up too, it's very interesting.
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teedubbya Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 3:19 PM EST
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They talked about saunas on the Rogan podcast.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 3:23 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Elderberry... saw an interview on Rachel Maddow where a dude was nearly dead, took some elderberry and now is running marathons. His medical team won’t weigh in on it but I saw him. He was smiling and stuff.

Were there also hundreds and hundreds of other patients with the exact same surprising and sudden result in multiple studies from multiple areas around the world, making this guy's story merely an additional interesting datapoint on top of a big mountain of others?

Quote:
I keed I keed. Relax.

Well, you didn't say that you're kidding via a cable news show, so I guess I believe it! Herfing
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delta1 Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 3:26 PM EST
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do saunas kill the virus? wet saunas? dry saunas?

how about jacuzzis?
teedubbya Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 3:26 PM EST
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The yes wasn't for delta.


No. Just no. You would have to get the temperature in your lungs, nose, mouth etc to a level hot enough to kill you..... so I guess the answer is sort of yes but you will be dead .


Edit: you would actually need to bring your cells up to a level that would kill you. Bring your body temp up to 103 and see how you feel.... now keep going up to get to virus killing heat. And remember the temp it takes outside to raise the temp of something inside (BBQ or Sous Vide will illustrate this).

This was an early myth that was tamped down quickly. I mentioned the Rogan video because it was clearly addressed there and why it wouldn't work but its been completely rejected by all reputable clinical folks.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 3:29 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
do saunas kill the virus? wet saunas? dry saunas?

how about jacuzzis?

He just talked about putting the body in high temperature environments in general. There's some evidence it may boost immune system function, possibly along with cold exposure afterward, or cycling hot-cold-hot-cold.

Go watch his videos, they're great. Simple and clear information from an M.D., with peer-reviewed controlled formal studies both cited and shown on-screen.

He speculates further based on them, but he clearly says it's speculation.

He also explains how hot water baths were used in the 1918 pandemic with some level of evidence of efficacy, and he talked about how doctors sometimes even induced fevers to fight some infections before antibiotics were available. Sometimes they'd even deliberately infect a patient with malaria (!!!!), let it cause a fever, let the fever work against the other disease (e.g. syphilis), then once that work is done they'd give quinine to fix the malaria. Crazy, but it seems to have worked at least sometimes.
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teedubbya Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 3:45 PM EST
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This virus will give you plenty of fever if it aims to kill you (or not...depending). No saunas do not have a chance at curing or killing the virus unless its hot enough to kill you.

I love saunas. But set your expectations right.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 3:49 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
This virus will give you plenty of fever if it aims to kill you (or not...depending). No saunas do not have a chance at curing or killing the virus unless its hot enough to kill you.

Yeah, that's one thing I was unclear about, when he was explaining all this in his videos. Most of these diseases give you a fever anyway, so....

For prevention (e.g. study showing daily sauna use lowers rhinovirus infection rates) I can see it, sure, if it strengthens the immune system. But once you've already GOT something, it seems iffy.
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teedubbya Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 3:52 PM EST
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Yea I don't know what he was saying or why but there is no chance it's beneficial other than it may relax you and make you feel good and stuff. Totally a rejected myth in relation to this or other viruses.

Same with silver, mouthwashes, hair dryers in the mouth, sunlight, etc..... although the vitamin d certainly wouldn't hurt it isnt curative.
teedubbya Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 4:02 PM EST
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Drinking alcohol, bleach, holding your breath etc. Bunch of myths out there praying on hopefulness. No just no. Science is working on it. We will get there. And it very well could be an off label use of something available or something else. We just need to be patient, flatten the curve and give it time... which sucks. There isn't a quick fix.
teedubbya Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 4:07 PM EST
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There is an entire town in Missouri built upon some of the hocus pocus. Capone and some Presidents used to hang out at a really cool hotel that they say is haunted. I've seen it on several of the ghost shows. Cool little town for a day once a year or so.
victor809 Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 4:15 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
There is an entire town in Missouri built upon some of the hocus pocus. Capone and some Presidents used to hang out at a really cool hotel that they say is haunted. I've seen it on several of the ghost shows. Cool little town for a day once a year or so.


I should head there. Got a weird bone growth in my wrist, maybe the haunted house will fix it.
Speyside Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 4:16 PM EST
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I know a couple of good alternative doctors. One is an African witch doctor. He said jumping off of ribbon falls will scare the virus out of you, but the cure is worse than the disease. It has a 100% mortality rate. The other is doctor feels good. He has no cure for the disease but guarantees you won't care. This of course is all ancidotal information subject to dual blind testing with certain other protocols. Oh, the silver stuff only works if you are a werewolf. But you are safe if you are a vampire as you don't need to breathe. Unfortunatly you are already dead.
teedubbya Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 4:25 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I should head there. Got a weird bone growth in my wrist, maybe the haunted house will fix it.



Victor you should when things resolve. Excelsior Springs. The Elms is a great OLD hotel. Look it up. Not to much in the town but a couple of bars, a good BBQ joint and the hall of fountains.... there are some winerys in the hillside too. Stay at the hotel for a night and do the ghost tour. Hokey but fun. They do have a water fest with a beer garden. It has one tap LOL.
teedubbya Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 4:26 PM EST
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I do believe in some alternative medicines but some are just silly.
teedubbya Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 4:32 PM EST
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Sorry.... thread jacked....

victor809 Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 4:35 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I do believe in some alternative medicines but some are just silly.


Yeah.... I ever tell you about Yunnan Baiyao?

It's a Chinese herb... we ran across it when we had a hospice dog with inoperable jaw cancer. To improve clotting the vet prescribed it.

I thought that was nuts... but the dog was dying anyway, so meh... Obviously didn't save the dog's life, but for the period of time it had left, it improved it. Was a real interesting herb. Could be taken internally, or packed against a wound and it would improve clotting. We did a some research and it was apparently used extensively by the Viet Cong...

Seemed to work well on the dog. I've kept the remaining pills around because I figure I can test it on myself if I ever get a nice cut. Haven't had any good cuts in the past few years though.
Dg west deptford Offline
#35 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 4:41 PM EST
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Anti-malarial & zpak are still a click away but shipping from India and I have a coupon code. It's about to be the score of the month
teedubbya Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 4:41 PM EST
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A combination of acupressure/acupuncture, massage and chiropractic solved a couple problems for me. UV treatment for my cancer wasn't exactly main stream at one time. There are lots of drugs that do better off label than on label. The gout drug I took for my heart is an example.

I'm not denigrating all of it but some are clearly debunked.

I've just seen false hope, desperation and disinformation eff up a lot of folks. The autistic community comes to mind in regards to immunizations as the cause and the whacky solutions. But who can really blame them. Its the hope for a miracle. And sometimes it happens.
victor809 Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 5:11 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
A combination of acupressure/acupuncture, massage and chiropractic solved a couple problems for me. UV treatment for my cancer wasn't exactly main stream at one time. There are lots of drugs that do better off label than on label. The gout drug I took for my heart is an example.

I'm not denigrating all of it but some are clearly debunked.

I've just seen false hope, desperation and disinformation eff up a lot of folks. The autistic community comes to mind in regards to immunizations as the cause and the whacky solutions. But who can really blame them. Its the hope for a miracle. And sometimes it happens.


I can't stand chiropractic. There's a whole lot of quackery going on there.
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#38 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 5:22 PM EST
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Oregano oil. I eat healthy, but the oregano oil is based off a friends referral. So far, so good.
tonygraz Offline
#39 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 6:39 PM EST
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Potato soup. But I might try that Italian liquor that TW mentioned before for a chaser.
Dg west deptford Offline
#40 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 6:45 PM EST
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Bat soup followed by Asiatic bear bile mixed with goat horn along with pangolin scale stew for breakfast then rhino horn and sharkfin soup with a monkey brain for lunch
corey sellers Offline
#41 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 6:47 PM EST
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Drinking more rum
frankj1 Offline
#42 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 6:52 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
A combination of acupressure/acupuncture, massage and chiropractic solved a couple problems for me. UV treatment for my cancer wasn't exactly main stream at one time. There are lots of drugs that do better off label than on label. The gout drug I took for my heart is an example.

I'm not denigrating all of it but some are clearly debunked.

I've just seen false hope, desperation and disinformation eff up a lot of folks. The autistic community comes to mind in regards to immunizations as the cause and the whacky solutions. But who can really blame them. Its the hope for a miracle. And sometimes it happens.

did you grow any hair?
teedubbya Offline
#43 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 7:00 PM EST
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Yes but not where I wanted it
USNGunner Offline
#44 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 7:12 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Potato soup. But I might try that Italian liquor that TW mentioned before for a chaser.


I hope that works. That is an old family recipe in my family as well. We eat that a lot. Hell, I may be immune.

Between all the crap the .mil pumped into me for 20 years, the potato soup, the oregano oil, the recreational stuff, the booze, there ain't a virus that could stand up to all of that. Corona pops in and says "HELL NO!" and bails.

Well, one can hope. Pray
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#45 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 7:26 PM EST
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USNGunner wrote:
I hope that works. That is an old family recipe in my family as well. We eat that a lot. Hell, I may be immune.

Between all the crap the .mil pumped into me for 20 years, the potato soup, the oregano oil, the recreational stuff, the booze, there ain't a virus that could stand up to all of that. Corona pops in and says "HELL NO!" and bails.

Well, one can hope. Pray



That and we took a schit ton of Chloroquine back in the day........we're both probably packing a residual dose
USNGunner Offline
#46 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 7:31 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
That and we took a schit ton of Chloroquine back in the day........we're both probably packing a residual dose


That would not surprise me.
teedubbya Offline
#47 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 7:31 PM EST
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I'm learning to swallow sausages without chewing. I hear it scrapes the virus off your throat.
Mr. Jones Offline
#48 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 7:35 PM EST
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Multi vitamin
Zinc
Tumeric
Saw Palmetto
Fish oil
Some other 2 things?
teedubbya Offline
#49 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 7:39 PM EST
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meth and ethanol?
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#50 Posted: Wed, Apr 1 2020, 7:40 PM EST
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TW is consuming my freeze dried s.p.u.n.k....

It cures anything..and then sum...
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