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Whistlebritches Offline
#101 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 7:01 AM EST
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My most common random thought........

WTF!!!
victor809 Offline
#102 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 9:13 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Got it, kind of dense on my part. You're saying if JJ'S God exists Trump has done nothing wrong because he had no free will in the matter. Wouldn't this also mean that Trump is a better person than you? I think Trump believes in the same God JJ does, if so based on what you are saying they both need to understand they have no free will so there is no good or bad for them. You on the other hand have free will based on your lack of belief, so you can do good or bad. Unless of course you want to say you have never done bad.


Depends on your perspective.
If JJ's god exists, then yes, you are correct... people have no free will, there is good/bad (as in people who were predetermined to make good/bad actions, but they do not bear the blame for having made those actions). If the god is truly omniscient and omnipotent then all blame rolls up to them.

Philosophically, if this god exists, whether I believe in it or not, I would be predetermined to act in exactly the way I am acting as well. Just another character created by that god as a foil, and just as blameless (but again, can be judged as good/bad based on actions).

Fortunately for all of us, there is no god, omnipotent/omniscient or otherwise. And JJ, tRump and myself are all responsible for our own actions.
victor809 Offline
#103 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 9:15 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Did trump believe in god before it benefited him politically?

Just a random thought.


If it's an omniscient/omnipresent god then he was designed to suddenly begin pretending he believed in god at 70 years of age so that many other people who like to pretend they believe in this god will get behind him and call him god's chosen to lead our country.

If there is an omniscient and omnipotent god, I suspect this story is a farce.
Speyside Offline
#104 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 9:36 AM EST
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No, my point wasn't the existence in God, or predeterminatuon. It is more of a moral one. If JJ believes in his God, then he should believe any action he takes is justified because per say his God sanctioned this and already knows it will happen. But on giving this further consideration, the implication would also be that his God is good and evil. You believe there is no God. Therefore you determine your own morality. Good/evil is a conscious choice for you. Objectively I would have to say JJ'S version of God does not exist. Objectively I would say you could be correct.
victor809 Offline
#105 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 9:44 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
No, my point wasn't the existence in God, or predeterminatuon. It is more of a moral one. If JJ believes in his God, then he should believe any action he takes is justified because per say his God sanctioned this and already knows it will happen. But on giving this further consideration, the implication would also be that his God is good and evil. You believe there is no God. Therefore you determine your own morality. Good/evil is a conscious choice for you. Objectively I would have to say JJ'S version of God does not exist. Objectively I would say you could be correct.


To be fair, JJ doesn't believe in his own god either. JJ believes in a version of his god which is logically inconsistent with the powers identified with this god. But that's fine, it's kind of like arguing over whether a griffin can fly. I mean, it has wings of an eagle, but logically those are not designed to carry something with the solid bones of a lion. The mythology says it does.... we roll with it, because it doesn't matter much. And as long as this christianity thing doesn't get involved in my life or politics, I let people roll with their mythology however they want. But if they are going to start getting involved in legal decisions, then the entire thing has to be logically consistent. Which it fails to do.
tonygraz Offline
#106 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 10:01 AM EST
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Do Catholic Priests make good babysitters ?
edin508 Offline
#107 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 10:40 AM EST
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Every day at work can be a half day if you just leave.
CelticBomber Offline
#108 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 10:59 AM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Do Catholic Priests make good babysitters ?



Yes. They pay VERY close attention. They also don't want to be paid!
fishinguitarman Offline
#109 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 11:17 AM EST
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What do Biden and Walmart have in common?

They both have kids pants half off
JadeRose Offline
#110 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 11:29 AM EST
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Only in this gaddam forum can a thread that is DESIGNED to devolve into nonsense turn into a philosophical discussion on religion and morality.
fishinguitarman Offline
#111 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 11:32 AM EST
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I didn’t do it
CelticBomber Offline
#112 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 11:35 AM EST
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JadeRose wrote:
Only in this gaddam forum can a thread that is DESIGNED to devolve into nonsense turn into a philosophical discussion on religion and morality.



Well then, it obviously wasn't Intelligently Designed.
JadeRose Offline
#113 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 11:57 AM EST
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CelticBomber wrote:
Well then, it obviously wasn't Intelligently Designed.




Of COURSE it wasn't
jjanecka Offline
#114 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 12:34 PM EST
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😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
SirKnight Offline
#115 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 1:11 PM EST
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In the my pillow mattress topper commercial why was she smiling when he said, it is like three inches of wonderful” and why was he so excited about it?
delta1 Offline
#116 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 1:19 PM EST
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lessee now...logic flies...griffins fly...ever see a dragon fly?
Speyside Offline
#117 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 1:28 PM EST
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The only time I have seen butter fly is when an ex threw it at me.
SirKnight Offline
#118 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 1:34 PM EST
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I saw a flying saucer once!
RMAN4443 Offline
#119 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 1:40 PM EST
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I've buttered my thighs....oops, wrong forum....Anxious
delta1 Offline
#120 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 1:42 PM EST
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hmmmm...maybe you should start a cooking/fave recipe thread RMAN
delta1 Offline
#121 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 1:43 PM EST
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no wait...the one whose name should never be mentioned, Cigarlady, did one.......nevermind
RMAN4443 Offline
#122 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 1:46 PM EST
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Didn't think my buttered thighs would make you hungry Al...Think
delta1 Offline
#123 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 3:00 PM EST
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we had turkey thighs for dinner the other night...I brush them with melted butter before seasoning and roasting...

wife loves dark meat, so when we're in the mood for turkey, we get thighs only, except for Thanksgiving
delta1 Offline
#124 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 3:02 PM EST
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wonder if raised turkeys know they can't fly
Sunoverbeach Offline
#125 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 3:19 PM EST
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Aren't all turkeys raised?
delta1 Offline
#126 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 3:24 PM EST
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Think

as opposed to wild?
Sunoverbeach Offline
#127 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 3:31 PM EST
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Well I figured that's where the mommy and daddy turkeys came into play
delta1 Offline
#128 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:08 PM EST
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I see....would you believe................ "farm raised" vs wild?
delta1 Offline
#129 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:12 PM EST
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why do nose and ear hair grow faster and thicker as one ages?
Sunoverbeach Offline
#130 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:20 PM EST
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Sure. Add qualifications. Shoot down my random conjecture
delta1 Offline
#131 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 4:28 PM EST
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well, it's got an obvious hole...

wild turkeys do fly, so that pre-supposes they know...
Palama Offline
#132 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 5:30 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
no wait...the one whose name should never be mentioned, Cigarlady, did one.......nevermind


No more One-Ton Chips for you! ram27bat
Sunoverbeach Offline
#133 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 5:38 PM EST
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Totally heard Seinfeld's the soup Nazi in my head with that line
Palama Offline
#134 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 5:41 PM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Totally heard Seinfeld's the soup Nazi in my head with that line


Hehe, you are correct! Applause
Dg west deptford Offline
#135 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 6:00 PM EST
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Why is my cigar wrapper sparkling?
Sunoverbeach Offline
#136 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 6:12 PM EST
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You bought cigars at the strip club?
Dg west deptford Offline
#137 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 6:22 PM EST
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Close, Thompsux
Whistlebritches Offline
#138 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 7:53 PM EST
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Why does Gunner's moustache always look like it's been dipped in soul glow?
delta1 Offline
#139 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 8:30 PM EST
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he goes to the strip club regularly?

or...he buys his cigars from Thompsux...
8trackdisco Offline
#140 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 8:39 PM EST
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Why is the pit on something as small as an avocado so large?
USNGunner Offline
#141 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 8:45 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
he goes to the strip club regularly?

or...he buys his cigars from Thompsux...


[groucho voice]Well, I'm not buying cigars from Thompsux![/groucho voice]

LOL
USNGunner Offline
#142 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 8:49 PM EST
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Why even mess with pomegranates? .
Sunoverbeach Offline
#143 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 8:54 PM EST
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Why is it called a strawberry when it is neither straw nor a berry? Kinda like a Rare Corojo in that sense
frankj1 Offline
#144 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 8:58 PM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Why is it called a strawberry when it is neither straw nor a berry? Kinda like a Rare Corojo in that sense

I've been warning about rare corojos for years now as they are neither.
delta1 Offline
#145 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 9:00 PM EST
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that can't be!!!

in the cigar industry???
Sunoverbeach Offline
#146 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 9:10 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I've been warning about rare corojos for years now as they are neither.

I thought of you as I typed that sentence
frankj1 Offline
#147 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 9:12 PM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
I thought of you as I typed that sentence

you really remembered?
Sunoverbeach Offline
#148 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 9:15 PM EST
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Absolutely. It was a greatly disillusioning day when I looked up the leaf stats. The phrase has stuck with me.
frankj1 Offline
#149 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 9:16 PM EST
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was it like a gut Punch?
USNGunner Offline
#150 Posted: Thu, Apr 9 2020, 9:19 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
was it like a gut Punch?



Or more like a nice Hawaiian Punch?
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