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Gene363 Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Jun 8 2020, 12:06 PM EST
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Just another meme, but the the so called, "Non-Player Character" face is on the winning side.
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surfish1961 Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 10:59 AM EST
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YUP.....
victor809 Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 11:28 AM EST
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As I posted elsewhere, that is not the "NPC" face...
Victor on another thread wrote:

a know Gene... the types of media you keep coming across tells me your circle seems to overlap a lot with 4chan/8chan (aka white supremacists and incels).

Let's take a look at what we have here....
On the right is "Doomer" Doomer is a variant of Wojak intended to indicate despair or nihilism over the end of the world. Doomer comes straight from 4chan. Wojak itself was originated elsewhere, but is very popular in 4chan/8chan and is frequently paired with pepe the frog (pepe the frog has been co-opted by white supremacists and incels)

On the left is "Soy Boy" or "nu-male" Wojak. Just given the name, I'm assuming you are smart enough to realize it's also something that originated with the incels/white supremacists.... (but what do I know... maybe you aren't smart enough to pick that up).

So... you posted another image with origins in the white supremacists/incels groups.

What's funnier about the entire thing is that the image argues that the 2nd amendment protesters aren't actually that concerned about government overstep. They're only concerned about the government overstep when it's something important to them... like haircuts. If it's people of a political alignment which might fight against their guns later, they're willing to watch personal rights disappear to a government with little accountability.

Real conviction there.... real conviction.


Since this dumb "MeMe" has been brought up again, I'd like to point out that unlike how it is described in the idiotic strawman argument in the cartoon, this does not have to be a binary issue.
One does not have to be support the cause of the current protests to see government overstep.

The meme stupidly implies that one should allow the government to abuse the rights of citizens it doesn't agree with, because later they may protest your rights.
Someone who was actually concerned about government tyranny, would simply start a different protest against government tyranny. If that were actually a concern.

The cartoon's simplistic arguing lays bare the simple fact that it never was about protecting our bill of rights from an overbearing government. It was just about having guns.
Buckwheat Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 12:37 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
Just another meme, but the the so called, "Non-Player Character" face is on the winning side.


Here's one for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJqfNroFp8U
Gene363 Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 2:20 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Here's one for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJqfNroFp8U


Yup, the NRA sucks The Firearms Policy Coalition, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownershi and The Second Amendment Foundation is much better.

I don't know much about it but there is also NAAGA, the National African American Gun Association.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/naaga-hire-better-educated-cops-develop-a-new-standard-for-use-of-deadly-force/
Gene363 Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 2:28 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
As I posted elsewhere, that is not the "NPC" face...


Since this dumb "MeMe" has been brought up again, I'd like to point out that unlike how it is described in the idiotic strawman argument in the cartoon, this does not have to be a binary issue.
One does not have to be support the cause of the current protests to see government overstep.

The meme stupidly implies that one should allow the government to abuse the rights of citizens it doesn't agree with, because later they may protest your rights.
Someone who was actually concerned about government tyranny, would simply start a different protest against government tyranny. If that were actually a concern.

The cartoon's simplistic arguing lays bare the simple fact that it never was about protecting our bill of rights from an overbearing government. It was just about having guns.


Simplistic, but not enough for you.
victor809 Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 3:34 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
Simplistic, but not enough for you.


Given that I actually understand the origins of it, one could say I understand your little cartoon better than you do. As simplistic as it is.
Gene363 Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 5:32 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Given that I actually understand the origins of it, one could say I understand your little cartoon better than you do. As simplistic as it is.


Oh sure a regular genius, making assumptions on two examples and magically extrapolating conclusions. Why you're a regular one man conspiracy sleuth, statistical wizard and clairvoyant.
victor809 Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 5:45 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
Oh sure a regular genius, making assumptions on two examples and magically extrapolating conclusions. Why you're a regular one man conspiracy sleuth, statistical wizard and clairvoyant.


sigh.... this isn't something that requires extrapolation or anything.

These "characters" were created to symbolize specific things. They were created by members of 4chan/8chan. It is documented what they are meant to represent.

Funny enough, your cartoon matches exactly what they are intended to represent by the message boards where they were created. So I don't know why you would bother claiming it requires some clairvoyance. I'm just telling you where these characters originated.

If a character/meme originated in a forum dedicated almost essentially to white supremacists and incels, and eventually got to you, then somewhere up that chain you'll find a person frequenting the white supremacist/incel sites.

So... from my perspective, I'm the last person in that chain. Two memes which use characters developed in those forums have now shown up in social media I frequent. Both of these memes originated from one person. As someone who wants to be nice, I've informed that person the provenance of those memes.

You've pretended that this is some imagination of mine.

I would think if you were a responsible person you would question how they got to you, and perhaps go to the person you saw post them and point out that these characters indicate someone up the chain from them is awfully comfortable with white supremacists/incels.

But you chose a different path. I honestly don't understand why you are choosing to claim this is some "clairvoyance" "statistical wizardry" or whatever you're claiming.
tailgater Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 6:00 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Well ya see, Norm, it’s like this… A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That’s why you always feel smarter after a few beers.”.

BuckyB93 Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 6:03 PM EST
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Ooooh, I knew there was something but I just couldn't get the pieces to fall in place. Vic is really Cliff Clavin. Wow, the light bulb just lit up.

Now I feel stupid for not making the connection.
victor809 Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 6:07 PM EST
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Ah yes. When one can't find a problem with the argument, complain about the person presenting it.

"Victor!!! Stop telling me things I don't want to know!"
Gene363 Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 6:08 PM EST
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You could just look at the meme for the message. If you must, imagine the characters as stick figures. The faces, other than their expressions are irrelevant. I aww the nondescript nature of the faces as a way to avoid offending anyone.
BuckyB93 Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 6:20 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Ah yes. When one can't find a problem with the argument, complain about the person presenting it.

"Victor!!! Stop telling me things I don't want to know!"


Don't stop. Where would we be without Vikipedia?
MACS Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 6:29 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Ooooh, I knew there was something but I just couldn't get the pieces to fall in place. Vic is really Cliff Clavin. Wow, the light bulb just lit up.

Now I feel stupid for not making the connection.


Cliff had likeable qualities.
victor809 Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 6:32 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
You could just look at the meme for the message. If you must, imagine the characters as stick figures. The faces, other than their expressions are irrelevant. I aww the nondescript nature of the faces as a way to avoid offending anyone.


What you saw, and what is intended by the artist don't have to match. Additionally, the provenance of any message, while not actually changing the message, can lead to questions about what other beliefs the person bringing the message may hold.

Let's play a pretend game.
1st scenario - You see a cartoon about Soros funding those clintons. You think the message is hilarious. But the depiction of Soros uses the jewish caricatures promoted by white supremacists.

If you re-post that, you are not just posting the message you find hilarious... but also whatever additional messages in the caricature which white supremacists want to promote (ex... big nose, money grubbing, media controlling, whatever).

2nd scenario - someone posts a hot bikini clad girl on cbid. Great photo. You see on the news later that she was Miss Hitler (apparently this is a thing) 2018.

In this scenario, you have to ask yourself what you know about the person who initially posted that photo. Did they know she was miss hitler? Do they frequent a site that promotes things like Miss Hitler? Maybe they don't know... Perhaps you should tell them so other people don't ask the same question when they post it somewhere else.

victor809 Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 6:32 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Don't stop. Where would we be without Vikipedia?


I actually am amused by that
frankj1 Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 8:21 PM EST
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got any Miss Hitler pics?
Gene363 Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 9:37 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
What you saw, and what is intended by the artist don't have to match. Additionally, the provenance of any message, while not actually changing the message, can lead to questions about what other beliefs the person bringing the message may hold.

Let's play a pretend game.
1st scenario - You see a cartoon about Soros funding those clintons. You think the message is hilarious. But the depiction of Soros uses the jewish caricatures promoted by white supremacists.

If you re-post that, you are not just posting the message you find hilarious... but also whatever additional messages in the caricature which white supremacists want to promote (ex... big nose, money grubbing, media controlling, whatever).

2nd scenario - someone posts a hot bikini clad girl on cbid. Great photo. You see on the news later that she was Miss Hitler (apparently this is a thing) 2018.

In this scenario, you have to ask yourself what you know about the person who initially posted that photo. Did they know she was miss hitler? Do they frequent a site that promotes things like Miss Hitler? Maybe they don't know... Perhaps you should tell them so other people don't ask the same question when they post it somewhere else.



No thanks.
ZRX1200 Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Jun 9 2020, 10:37 PM EST
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Frank the Russians missed Hitler by about a day and a half.....
Speyside Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Jun 10 2020, 7:00 AM EST
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Meh, it's a meme that is offensive and bigoted. Get over it. It doesn't physically hurt me. I think it is funny, but for different reasons. The level of stupid and hate never cease to amaze me. This is America and untill someone has infringed on my rights, you go girl.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Jun 10 2020, 7:21 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
Cliff had likeable qualities.



and was intelligent!
Gene363 Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Jun 10 2020, 1:14 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Meh, it's a meme that is offensive and bigoted. Get over it. It doesn't physically hurt me. I think it is funny, but for different reasons. The level of stupid and hate never cease to amaze me. This is America and untill someone has infringed on my rights, you go girl.


Raciest? Seriously? Without quoting Victor, please explain.

Offensive, yeah, probably to freedom hating lefties that think, only the government should have guns. LOL
NapalmMan67 Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Jun 11 2020, 12:19 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
got any Miss Hitler pics?



Don't hate me because I'm an old Kraut my Jewish friend. You did ask...


https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2020/05/Missy-Hitler-4-e1588551204822-1024x640.png


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Speyside Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Jun 11 2020, 2:26 PM EST
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Gene, your memes are always alt right circle jerks. Only someone seriously alt right would find them funny. Ya wanna tell me who asked the gun carrying portion of the country to go militia and save us? This is alt right typical BS. The left has not asked for that. To depict the left as such is racist. Even the Looney left has not asked for that. Only a bigot would characterize the left as such, And it is offensive. Remember liberty and justice for all? We are all part of the all. If you want call me part of the looney left. Just remember I am not. You have seen me argue passionately for conservative ideals also. I state what I think, and I don't limit myself with a specific ideology.
DrafterX Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Jun 11 2020, 3:23 PM EST
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NapalmMan67 wrote:
Don't hate me because I'm an old Kraut my Jewish friend. You did ask...


https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2020/05/Missy-Hitler-4-e1588551204822-1024x640.png


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Link doesn't work... Mellow
Gene363 Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Jun 11 2020, 3:37 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Gene, your memes are always alt right circle jerks. Only someone seriously alt right would find them funny. Ya wanna tell me who asked the gun carrying portion of the country to go militia and save us? This is alt right typical BS. The left has not asked for that. To depict the left as such is racist. Even the Looney left has not asked for that. Only a bigot would characterize the left as such, And it is offensive. Remember liberty and justice for all? We are all part of the all. If you want call me part of the looney left. Just remember I am not. You have seen me argue passionately for conservative ideals also. I state what I think, and I don't limit myself with a specific ideology.



Are you serious? No sarcasm flag or laughing face?

If you are serious, I can conclude t's intolerant, raciest and bigoted to call out lefties, but it's perfectly OK to do the same thing to, what you call the, "alt right" actually middle of the road people.

I guess you missed this topic down in Politics: http://www.cigarbid.com/...he-2nd-Amendment-People

"your memes are always alt right" Oh, like these?

http://www.cigarbid.com/...posts/662468/Santa-2020

http://www.cigarbid.com/...662339/As-Good-As-Masks

http://www.cigarbid.com/...s/662340/COVID19-Safety

http://www.cigarbid.com/...42-of-COVID19-isolation

http://www.cigarbid.com/Forum/c/posts/661824/PSA

http://www.cigarbid.com/.../661739/Shortage-Solved

http://www.cigarbid.com/...62469/Intelligent-Virus


Maybe this one if you have no humor: http://www.cigarbid.com/...721/Elections-Cancelled

If you picked this one, I'm really gonna LOL: http://www.cigarbid.com/...sts/661937/Timely-Advic
The left is not a race, so it cannot be raciest.
Speyside Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Jun 11 2020, 5:02 PM EST
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No, racist is appropriate. You are denigrating people who are protesting the murder of a black man. The denigration was directed a someone from the left. As there is no truth to the meme, your meme was racist. Overall your memes are bigotted and or racist. But you are correct, I miss spoke when I said all. The alt right is racist and bigoted. I did not say the right was. The looney left is also racist and bigoted. The left is not. Think many things about Victor, but if you want to point him out as a spokesman for the left you are a moron. If you think he is part of the looney left then I am wrong to say you think. You perception of the left is inaccurate. Now go back to your alt right circle jerk. Interesting you would say without quoting Victor. We come to our conclusions in a significantly different manner, and are quite different individuals. Though it is true that either of us reach conclusions due to logic and critical thinking. As we often disagree, why you think I would mimic his logic is absurdly comical. Perhaps one additional similarity is we are comfortable in our own skin and mock stupid or just call it out.
NapalmMan67 Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Jun 11 2020, 5:18 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Link doesn't work... Mellow



That's because your not Jewish.


Or, maybe try copy and paste the link to your search bar. Frying pan
Gene363 Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Jun 11 2020, 5:55 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
No, racist is appropriate. You are denigrating people who are protesting the murder of a black man. The denigration was directed a someone from the left. As there is no truth to the meme, your meme was racist. Overall your memes are bigotted and or racist. But you are correct, I miss spoke when I said all. The alt right is racist and bigoted. I did not say the right was. The looney left is also racist and bigoted. The left is not. Think many things about Victor, but if you want to point him out as a spokesman for the left you are a moron. If you think he is part of the looney left then I am wrong to say you think. You perception of the left is inaccurate. Now go back to your alt right circle jerk. Interesting you would say without quoting Victor. We come to our conclusions in a significantly different manner, and are quite different individuals. Though it is true that either of us reach conclusions due to logic and critical thinking. As we often disagree, why you think I would mimic his logic is absurdly comical. Perhaps one additional similarity is we are comfortable in our own skin and mock stupid or just call it out.


Saying the National Guard is deployed only against blacks sounds pretty bad, maybe raciest, you might want to think that one over.

The character being told to FO is not a black person or a protester, he is calling on Second Amendment Zealots to attack the National Guard troops called out to deal with rioters, he is calling for insurrection. You and I both know the National Guard would not be called out to deal with protestors.

You're calling me and my posts "alt right" so I read the definition from the Southern Poverty Law Center:

Quote:
The Alternative Right, commonly known as the "alt-right," is a set of far-right ideologies, groups and individuals whose core belief is that “white identity” is under attack by multicultural forces using “political correctness” and “social justice” to undermine white people and “their” civilization.


Link: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/alt-right

Maybe you didn't understand what you were saying, but if do and you're serious, frankly you can shove that where the sun doesn't shine.

Victor and you, as far as I am concerned, represent your selves by what you post here. I will say both of you struggle to make a point to anyone that doesn't agree with your POV without calling them an idiot, moron or stupid. That said, I was addressing your comments, not those made by Victor. Just to reiterate, what I wrote was, "Without quoting Victor, please explain". I may disagree with Victor, OK a lot, but he can fight his own battles.

"mock stupid or just call it out" Like a window into your mind this tells me a lot about you. If you wish to mock someone, look in the mirror, because you are not the sole arbitrator of truth and knowledge.
RobertHively Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Jun 11 2020, 6:06 PM EST
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All this over a freakin meme? I looked at it and a couple pairs of crochet t*tties and moved on. Btw nobody is accusing anyone else of being sexist or a misogynist. That might be next week.

So before you start in on the origins of this or that or calling me racist, don't waste your time. IDGAF.
Speyside Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Jun 11 2020, 7:34 PM EST
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Gene, non player characters only exist in computer games. Do you know that? If you look up the definition you will find that out. The only reason real people are called that or portrayed as that, or memes as that is because bigoted people started using it to represent liberals. I guess you will never admit that because you are one of those people. When your opinion is idiotic with no factual basis I will mock you or call you out. Just like in this meme, your opinion is factless, this is a bigoted meme. As are other memes you have posted.
Gene363 Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Jun 11 2020, 8:40 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Gene, non player characters only exist in computer games. Do you know that? If you look up the definition you will find that out. The only reason real people are called that or portrayed as that, or memes as that is because bigoted people started using it to represent liberals. I guess you will never admit that because you are one of those people. When your opinion is idiotic with no factual basis I will mock you or call you out. Just like in this meme, your opinion is factless, this is a bigoted meme. As are other memes you have posted.


Well boo hoo, someone made fun of a liberals, but it's perfectly OK for you to call me a raciest and white supremacist, there is nothing else to say until you apologize.
Speyside Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 7:16 AM EST
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Huh, apologise to you for pointing out what you are? Not ever happening.
Gene363 Offline
#35 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 8:09 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Huh, apologise to you for pointing out what you are? Not ever happening.


I'm not surprised, your narrow minded, intolerant and judgmental posts define you and no one else. Have a nice day.
Speyside Offline
#36 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 8:53 AM EST
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You have a nice day as well! I won't even take offense at the narrow minded comment, considering it is coming from you.
DrafterX Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 9:09 AM EST
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Speyed can be one self-righteous bassard.. Mellow
benja123 Offline
#38 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 10:37 AM EST
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I have no comment on the goings on here other than the coochy avatar of Genes is a problem for me as I can't scroll though the forum while other eyes are in the room.
AND this prolly should be in the politics forum
victor809 Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 10:39 AM EST
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benja123 wrote:
I have no comment on the goings on here other than the coochy avatar of Genes is a problem for me as I can't scroll though the forum while other eyes are in the room.
AND this prolly should be in the politics forum


Not a coochy. Gene has actually posted the full picture here somewhere....

Gene363 Offline
#40 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 10:55 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Speyed can be one self-righteous bassard.. Mellow


I kinda feel like a Soviet citizens accused of saying something counter revolutionary, forced to sign a confession by political officers, sentenced to ten years in the gulag and upon completing my sentence being told I must repay the state because my confession was false. Brick wall
Gene363 Offline
#41 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 11:01 AM EST
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benja123 wrote:
I have no comment on the goings on here other than the coochy avatar of Genes is a problem for me as I can't scroll though the forum while other eyes are in the room.
AND this prolly should be in the politics forum


victor809 wrote:
Not a coochy. Gene has actually posted the full picture here somewhere....




Here: http://www.cigarbid.com/...posts/661240/Artsy-Icon

The Politics forum doesn't allow the posting of images, though there is a link to the, (Unedited) image above in the that section.

Thanks!
victor809 Offline
#42 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 11:01 AM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
I kinda feel like a Soviet citizens accused of saying something counter revolutionary, forced to sign a confession by political officers, sentenced to ten years in the gulag and upon completing my sentence being told I must repay the state because my confession was false. Brick wall


So you're a fan of Milan Kundera? That's practically the plot of The Joke.
Gene363 Offline
#43 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 11:15 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
So you're a fan of Milan Kundera? That's practically the plot of The Joke.


No, I only know what I just found in Google, but I see the parallel. Most of my reading about the Soviet system is related to WWII and post war experiences of Soviet soldiers and Soviet prisoners of war.
tailgater Offline
#44 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 11:20 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
No, racist is appropriate. You are denigrating people who are protesting the murder of a black man. The denigration was directed a someone from the left. As there is no truth to the meme, your meme was racist. Overall your memes are bigotted and or racist. But you are correct, I miss spoke when I said all. The alt right is racist and bigoted. I did not say the right was. The looney left is also racist and bigoted. The left is not. Think many things about Victor, but if you want to point him out as a spokesman for the left you are a moron. If you think he is part of the looney left then I am wrong to say you think. You perception of the left is inaccurate. Now go back to your alt right circle jerk. Interesting you would say without quoting Victor. We come to our conclusions in a significantly different manner, and are quite different individuals. Though it is true that either of us reach conclusions due to logic and critical thinking. As we often disagree, why you think I would mimic his logic is absurdly comical. Perhaps one additional similarity is we are comfortable in our own skin and mock stupid or just call it out.


It's awesome how the term racist is over used in times like these.
You find something misses the mark? Just call it racist.
It's lazy, but you'll get your 47% who automatically agree.

benja123 Offline
#45 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 11:47 AM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
Here: http://www.cigarbid.com/...posts/661240/Artsy-Icon

The Politics forum doesn't allow the posting of images, though there is a link to the, (Unedited) image above in the that section.

Thanks!

pretty cool, sort of like the hidden pictures tests but I did see a bush

https://www.higherperspectives.com/fun-test-2495105111.html
Speyside Offline
#46 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 1:10 PM EST
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Tail, I'm right 98.2% of the time. I have no respect for Gene. I 100% respect his constitutional right to be who he is. Gene has no respect for me. I assume he has 100% respect for my constitutional right to be who I am. I think for myself. I don't follow anyone's lead but mine, with one exception, I let my wife win always while still noting my disagreement if I feel strongly enough about the topic. I thought that through for myself and decided that is what I wanted.

I don't have to be quite about what I find morally empty. I really don't care who I offend, they have offended me. You don't like that, fight back, leave, mock me, or block me. I didn't do that for a long time here. I do now, get used to it.

Anyone here who thinks their words hurt me doesn't know me. It just makes me argue more for the hell of it. There are some scared white men here that are angry because their way of life no longer represents the United States. There are some white men here who are bigots, or racists, or white supremacists.

Anyone who doesn't like what I'm saying, get over it or fight back, I really don't care what you do. Also I laugh at some of the posters here a lot. Out of respect for the Vherf I don't join in, I would call people out there and laugh at them, and that surely isn't the reason for the Vherf.
Gene363 Offline
#47 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 1:41 PM EST
Joined: 01-24-2003
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98.2% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Speyside Offline
#48 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 1:47 PM EST
Joined: 03-16-2015
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True, true. But spot only got to pee on the floor 1.8 times.
victor809 Offline
#49 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 1:56 PM EST
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
Speyside wrote:

Anyone who doesn't like what I'm saying, get over it or fight back, I really don't care what you do. Also I laugh at some of the posters here a lot. Out of respect for the Vherf I don't join in, I would call people out there and laugh at them, and that surely isn't the reason for the Vherf.


To be fair, we all behave ourselves on the Vherf. I've been on twice and haven't had to laugh at anyone yet.
tailgater Offline
#50 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2020, 2:15 PM EST
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
Speyside wrote:
Tail, I'm right 98.2% of the time. I have no respect for Gene. I 100% respect his constitutional right to be who he is. Gene has no respect for me. I assume he has 100% respect for my constitutional right to be who I am. I think for myself. I don't follow anyone's lead but mine, with one exception, I let my wife win always while still noting my disagreement if I feel strongly enough about the topic. I thought that through for myself and decided that is what I wanted.

I don't have to be quite about what I find morally empty. I really don't care who I offend, they have offended me. You don't like that, fight back, leave, mock me, or block me. I didn't do that for a long time here. I do now, get used to it.

Anyone here who thinks their words hurt me doesn't know me. It just makes me argue more for the hell of it. There are some scared white men here that are angry because their way of life no longer represents the United States. There are some white men here who are bigots, or racists, or white supremacists.

Anyone who doesn't like what I'm saying, get over it or fight back, I really don't care what you do. Also I laugh at some of the posters here a lot. Out of respect for the Vherf I don't join in, I would call people out there and laugh at them, and that surely isn't the reason for the Vherf.


Dude, you sound like tailgater.
Well, except for the "they have offended me" part.
I don't get offended.
I get even.
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