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victor809 Offline
#101 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 1:45 PM EST
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pretty sure they have been answering that question in the interview. Just because you don't understand the answer doesn't mean it wasn't given.
teedubbya Offline
#102 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 1:49 PM EST
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This is sort of interesting

https://www.rwjf.org/en/library/interactives/whereyouliveaffectshowlongyoulive.html

Health care disparities are better predicted by zip code than by genetics
BuckyB93 Offline
#103 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 2:18 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
pretty sure they have been answering that question in the interview. Just because you don't understand the answer doesn't mean it wasn't given.


And your answer is?
victor809 Offline
#104 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 2:25 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
And your answer is?


That's easy, mock less intelligent people on discount cigar forums.
BuckyB93 Offline
#105 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 2:36 PM EST
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So you're just a $hi+ stirrer and internet troll. That has already been well established.
rfenst Offline
#106 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 2:37 PM EST
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... awaiting Victor's reply...
victor809 Offline
#107 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 2:40 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
So you're just a $hi+ stirrer and internet troll. That has already been well established.


Not "just", but that's the side of me you see. For the obvious reasons identified in my original answer.
teedubbya Offline
#108 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 2:41 PM EST
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I did my best
But I guess my best wasn't good enough
Cause here we are
Back where we were before
Seems nothin' ever changes
We're back to being strangers
Wondering if we ought to stay
Or head on out the door
Just once
Can we figure out what we keep doin' wrong
Why we never last for very long
What are we doin' wrong?Just once
BuckyB93 Offline
#109 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 3:53 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Not "just", but that's the side of me you see. For the obvious reasons identified in my original answer.


Just wanted to make sure it came from you so I couldn't be accused of putting words in your mouth. A common tool in your trollbox.

The troll part is undeniable. As for the superior intelligence that you assign to yourself, that's just your arrogance speaking.
victor809 Offline
#110 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 4:18 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Just wanted to make sure it came from you so I couldn't be accused of putting words in your mouth. A common tool in your trollbox.

The troll part is undeniable. As for the superior intelligence that you assign to yourself, that's just your arrogance speaking.

Man.... you rolled in here demanding we tell you what we're doing about a systemic problem. On a thread about statues to confederates being removed. In a forum with multiple posts, which you are involved in, complaining about those pesky BLM protesters.

One doesn't have to be arrogant to be intelligent enough to mock you.

You've been working that "troll" term pretty heavily the past couple weeks. I notice that when you get your panties all twisted up over something and are later proven wrong you just duck out as quietly as possible.... mumbling something about having old information. You need to grow up a little.
MACS Offline
#111 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 4:33 PM EST
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Dr. Thomas Sowell discusses welfare... I saw this in action, and it knows no color boundaries. Lots of other articles and videos where he discusses the myth of economic inequality. Incredibly intelligent man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GklCBvS-eI
Numismaniac Offline
#112 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 5:45 PM EST
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Damn, why ya'll peckerwoods still blowing this thread up?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!


Take it to the politics section, GEEZ, and even Ram gave it to ya as well.


Buncha white guys, hehe.
Ram27 Offline
#113 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 6:09 PM EST
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Argh!
HockeyDad Offline
#114 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 6:11 PM EST
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Ram is powerless.
teedubbya Offline
#115 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 6:19 PM EST
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Omg
Speyside Offline
#116 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 6:25 PM EST
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The end of days?
HockeyDad Offline
#117 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 6:34 PM EST
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We’ve vandalized and tore down the statues to Ram27
Abrignac Offline
#118 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 6:38 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
inner city troubles are part of the legacy of segregation, our legalized society that institutionalized systemic racism that was supposedly ended by the Civil Rights Act in the social equality movements in the 1960's...but the efforts at establishing equality have not resulted in a truly equal society....

blacks in general were limited to certain specific and less desirable parts of cities all over the US during the segregation
era and there they remained...society didn't loosen its grip on bigotry overnight...whites who harbored racist beliefs didn't go away: many hardened their hearts and erected statues of intimidation in response to civil rights activism...examples included discriminatory housing practices, the refusal to sell property to blacks and other minorities in many all -white areas...law-suits over this racist practice continued into the 1980-90's

blacks continued to be denied access to many public and private places of employment, despite the laws against discrimination...many lawsuits were filed to force agencies like the LAPD and LAFD, previously all-white institutions...change came slowly and in many cases, by court decree...legislation to open up hiring opportunities included the SCOTUS approving affirmative action mandates that forced institutions to mire minorities...

there was no mass embrace of blacks into white society...so they remained where they were during the days of legalized systemic racism...in places with pervasive poverty, substandard schools, lack of work, substandard healthcare...despite many efforts to change these blackholes of poverty and despair, nothing really changed for a large number of black and brown Americans

here are some numbers that illustrate these persistent inequities:


https://www.businessinsider.com/us-systemic-racism-in-charts-graphs-data-2020-6


So you’re saying segregation caused the inner city problems? Was that before or after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Abrignac Offline
#119 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 6:42 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
You have to be kidding or uninformed.


Can you point to a law that dictates who can live where in the USA? I’ll wait patiently, but I can’t hold my breath for eternity.
Abrignac Offline
#120 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 6:59 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
*sigh* I've answered a couple of times, but you must not be interested in what I have to say, or have made up your mind


the criminal justice system's treatment of marijuana users: usage rates among blacks and whites are comparable: but the imprisonment rate and severity of sentences for blacks far outnumber that of whites...

I saw this firsthand in the police academy in 1987, before MJ was decriminalized in CA...tach officers from mostly white beach communities said they often don't cite those caught smoking MJ, maybe confiscate and FI, but no cite or arrest...contrast with tach officers from LAPD, who say MJ is a primary opening to go looking for more serious violations, but will be at least a cite and release or booking if you don't find anything else, boosts arrest numbers and clearance rate for crimes...


pretty sure you don't read/believe my posts in response...so here's some articles from more informed sources...

pretty sure you won't look at these either...but they are relatively short and easy reads



https://www.businessinsider.com/us-systemic-racism-in-charts-graphs-data-2020-6

https://time.com/5851855/systemic-racism-america/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/15/systemic-racism-what-does-mean/5343549002/


Link 1: Extrapolated a narrow conclusion from generic data that does not offer data to support the conclusion reached.

Link 2: Are you kidding? How is an essentially editorial with absofuckingloutly no facts become pertinent?

Link 3: An opinion piece based on writings of NAACP President Derrick Johnson and Glenn Harris, president of Race Forward and publisher of Colorlines. No data is cited and neither would be considered neutral sources.
Abrignac Offline
#121 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 7:03 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You only see the small part of my life that is online here, and your perspective is from the point of view of someone being criticized. I criticize very few people outside of this forum. Because most people I interact with aren't saying things which require criticism.

But I can understand why you'd want to believe I criticize everyone. It would make you feel like it isn't your particular opinions that I'm criticizing and allows you to feel justified in your ideas. Whatever makes you feel better man.


So in the real world you hang out with like minded people. Then you duck in here to criticize those who diasagree with you?
Abrignac Offline
#122 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 7:07 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
That's easy, mock less intelligent people on discount cigar forums.


Intelligence is defined many ways. Consider the well edumacated dumbass for example.
Abrignac Offline
#123 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 7:08 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
That's easy, mock less intelligent people on discount cigar forums.


Intelligence is defined many ways. Consider the well edumacated dumbass for example.
Speyside Offline
#124 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 7:25 PM EST
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Why not add in some data, factual evidence that disproves what Delta is pointing out Anthony? That certainly would add weight to your points.
corey sellers Offline
#125 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 7:40 PM EST
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Let's tear down all memorials and I mean all and let's burn all history books.Depends on who wrote the books as to what they want them say. Let's have a reset so people are done being butthurt. Has anybody looked around and seen what is going to be leading this world in years to come. From what I see it is a bunch of candie azzes.
DrafterX Offline
#126 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 7:48 PM EST
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How about replacing all the statues with statues of Harriet Tubman.. that'll make peoples forget about racism and stuff.. Mellow
corey sellers Offline
#127 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 7:55 PM EST
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Malcolm X would be better ain't you and him brothers from different mothers.
Abrignac Offline
#128 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 8:05 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Why not add in some data, factual evidence that disproves what Delta is pointing out Anthony? That certainly would add weight to your points.


It’s not my job to offer editorial advice to the author. It’s the author’s responsibility to ensure that he includes pertinent information to support a persuasive argument. That would be the same as an English teacher doing one’s research for them.

Btw, I didn’t make any points. I simply pointed out the unsubstantiated ones Al made.
corey sellers Offline
#129 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 8:09 PM EST
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Who wrote the books everyone has opinions they are like azzholes. Everyone has one prove me wrong.
DrafterX Offline
#130 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 8:10 PM EST
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Who wrote da book on love..?? Huh
MACS Offline
#131 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 8:12 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Who wrote da book on love..?? Huh


Nah... he plays first base.
DrafterX Offline
#132 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 8:20 PM EST
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Actually, Axl wrote that man... Mellow
MACS Offline
#133 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 8:24 PM EST
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Negative... Laurel and Hardy wrote that.
Speyside Offline
#134 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 8:28 PM EST
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They did have a piano for a time.
teedubbya Offline
#135 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 8:33 PM EST
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This is sort of an interesting read. Following WW2 exasperated things. When the law passed in the late 60s outlawing such things a considerable bit of damage had already been done. Wealth and poverty compound over time.

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/526655831/a-forgotten-history-of-how-the-u-s-government-segregated-america

This supplements it. It’s a domino effect.

https://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/002_04-teachers-07c.htm
teedubbya Offline
#136 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 8:51 PM EST
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I’m not trying to convince anyone and there are better academic sources to learn more. I just find it interesting and not well known.
frankj1 Offline
#137 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 9:25 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Negative... Laurel and Hardy wrote that.

Abbot and Costello
teedubbya Offline
#138 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 9:31 PM EST
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Peaches and Herb
frankj1 Offline
#139 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 9:35 PM EST
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Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice
teedubbya Offline
#140 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 9:37 PM EST
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REN and stimpy
MACS Offline
#141 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 9:37 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
Abbot and Costello


Dammit... that's what I meant. Laurel and Hardy was way before my time. Hell, so were Abbott and Costello.
frankj1 Offline
#142 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 9:43 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Dammit... that's what I meant. Laurel and Hardy was way before my time. Hell, so were Abbott and Costello.

fat and skinny would cover either.
tonygraz Offline
#143 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 10:18 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Dammit... that's what I meant. Laurel and Hardy was way before my time. Hell, so were Abbott and Costello.


Isn't Abbott a governor now ? Not so funny without Costello.
frankj1 Offline
#144 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 10:24 PM EST
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a laurel, and hearty handshake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuHKWzWtBzM
MACS Offline
#145 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 10:26 PM EST
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Can't shake hands with a clenched fist...
tonygraz Offline
#146 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 10:28 PM EST
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You are not supposed to shake hands now because of the covid.
izonfire Offline
#147 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 10:57 PM EST
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I’m here to eliminate TW’s heritage.
Where is he???
HockeyDad Offline
#148 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 11:11 PM EST
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izonfire wrote:
I’m here to eliminate TW’s heritage.
Where is he???


I tore down his statue.
Whistlebritches Offline
#149 Posted: Tue, Jun 30 2020, 11:29 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I tore down his statue.



His statue hasn't stood in a long time
BuckyB93 Offline
#150 Posted: Wed, Jul 1 2020, 6:02 AM EST
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Boston's Art Commission buckles under the weight of snowflakes.

"What I heard today is that it hurts to look at this piece, and in the Boston landscape, we should not have works that bring shame to any groups of people -- not only in Boston but across the entire United States."
- Ekua Holmes, vice-chair of the Boston Art Commission.

https://www.wcvb.com/article/boston-art-commission-unanimously-votes-to-remove-controversial-abraham-lincoln-statue-in-park-square/33017211
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