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KGB defector... 1984
MACS Offline
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPsKvG6WMI
gummy jones Offline
#2 Posted:
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saw that before


thanks for the reminder

more and more applicable daily
Stogie1020 Offline
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Thanks for posting.

I haven't seen that before, very interesting.
Gene363 Offline
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You younger guys better get your act in gear.
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#5 Posted:
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dude's a Russian spy...

decides the US is a better place than the USSR, comes here and says he's defecting...

then lectures us about how we are destroying ourselves...36 years ago...



an American counterpart doing this in Russia would have been given one to the back of the head
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There is a certain sort of symmetry. In 1984 Jimmy Carter lost to Ronald Reagan. In 2020 Donald Trump will loose to Joe Biden. So the 2 worst presidents in my lifetime will have lost their bid for reelection.
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Speyside wrote:
There is a certain sort of symmetry. In 1984 Jimmy Carter lost to Ronald Reagan. In 2020 Donald Trump will loose to Joe Biden. So the 2 worst presidents in my lifetime will have lost their bid for reelection.



Actually Jimmy Carter lost to Ronald Reagan in 1980.First election I was old enough to vote in and not only did I get to vote the Greatest President of all Time in but I had the pleasure of doing it twice.

Just for the record Reagan plowed Walter Mondale in a landslide in 84.Jimmy Carter was already back in Georgia with brother Billy farming peanuts and pushing Billy Beer.

Yea Jimmy was bad but tied in there for last is Obama.Obama may have not lost his bid for reelection but if you believe he won above board I have some ocean front property in Kansas for sale.
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Keep in mind that Carter was a much better man than Trump or Reagan who both falsely claimed they would make America great again. I find it difficult to believe that you are that young and uniformed.
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tonygraz wrote:
Keep in mind that Carter was a much better man than Trump or Reagan who both falsely claimed they would make America great again. I find it difficult to believe that you are that young and uniformed.



Tony I will repeat what I said as an 18 year old young man on my first ship,in front of my entire division,to shut the only uninformed Sailor among us up..............."Jimmy Carter wouldn't make a mole on Ronald Reagan's ass" and for you I might add,much better men do not necessarily make good leaders of men or countries.Ol Jimmy being a Navy Man still gets no slack from me.........he was what was known in our world as a walking clusterfuck,very intelligent but incapable of leading ants to a picnic
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Hell it must be the COVID Ron. Ronald Reagan has been the only president in my lifetime I felt really good voting for.
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Tony I will repeat what I said as an 18 year old young man on my first ship,in front of my entire division,to shut the only uninformed Sailor among us up..............."Jimmy Carter wouldn't make a mole on Ronald Reagan's ass" and for you I might add,much better men do not necessarily make good leaders of men or countries.Ol Jimmy being a Navy Man still gets no slack from me.........he was what was known in our world as a walking clusterfuck,very intelligent but incapable of leading ants to a picnic

So true, Ron.
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Speyside wrote:
Hell it must be the COVID Ron. Ronald Reagan has been the only president in my lifetime I felt really good voting for.



Your growing on me again.LOL
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Iran Contra... grew government after promising a smaller govt. ...very little tax cuts after promising tax cuts...nearly doubled the federal budget and the federal deficit during his time in office...
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delta1 wrote:
Iran Contra... grew government after promising a smaller govt. ...very little tax cuts after promising tax cuts...nearly doubled the federal budget and the federal deficit during his time in office...

sent fake info to congress wif his numbahs guy Greenspan about the social security crisis that did not exist and began the raid which fulfilled the premise of the lie...all because he needed to find a way to balance the budget when trickle up failed.

Raid continued until Gore, of all people, said to Lock the Box.
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delta1 wrote:
Iran Contra... grew government after promising a smaller govt. ...very little tax cuts after promising tax cuts...nearly doubled the federal budget and the federal deficit during his time in office...


At least he saw the necessity in fighting communism instead of embracing it like the looney left.

It was very expensive to break the Soviet Union and its communist stronghold.So would you have preferred to put warheads on target and boots on the ground?

Not to mention reversing the ballooning interest rates of the Carter catastrophe and bringing a torn country back together.

As a young Sailor Carter gave me little in monetary means and nothing in pride.Within the first 12 months of President Reagan as CIC my pay doubled(e-5 and below received huge raises to get us above the poverty line),the Vietnam War haters were gone and the pride of the nation and it's military did nothing but rise.It was a great time to be alive unless you were a communist...............then you might have something to complain about.
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frankj1 wrote:


Raid continued until Gore, of all people, said to Lock the Box.


Frank seriously the only box Gore locked was his rear entry box after Tipper found out Bill and Al used the term "playing a round" in a completely different way than your average American golfer.We won't even talk about how many scorecards had a "hole in one" marked.
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but he ended the raiding of social security that both parties did...started by Ronnie R when his economy was failing.
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and weren't the Viet Nam war haters right?
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NINEteen
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BuckyB93 wrote:
NINEteen

it's impossible to not like you!
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frankj1 wrote:
but he ended the raiding of social security that both parties did...started by Ronnie R when his economy was failing.


Actually started by Lyndon Johnson in 68..........have fun looking through these numbers as they used SS to plug holes in multiple places.A pyramid scheme it would appear.I do believe President reagan took SS off budget in 86 and closed that loophole.Here's some history in the link below

https://www.ssa.gov/history/BudgetTreatment.html

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frankj1 wrote:
and weren't the Viet Nam war haters right?


In most cases I would say no.First off had the politicians done their jobs and supported a war we were in like it or not the outcome would have been different IMHO.

Had DC directed resources to the field of battle rather than their pockets the war would have turned out different IMO.

We eventually won this battle just not in the trenches where it should've been won.Communism was defeated but at a much greater loss of life and it took til the late 80's.

Had the protestors directed their venom towards DC rather young men who just answered when their country called the war would have turned out different IMO.

Having been brought up and trained by mostly Nam Vets in my early days I realized their distrust of the public was brought on by their awful treatment upon return.Their distrust of the government was quite obvious.Many of their battle scars were suffered right here on American soil and I may be biased but that should never happen.You can support the Soldier/Sailor without supporting the war.I was and am really disappointed in humans who have the capability of doing this.If you didn't put it all on the line leave the front line guys out of it.......Go attack a **** ing congressman.Rant over and none it directed at you Frank..........I'm just a little impassioned about those guys as most of them sadly are gone now.

None of this means I would blindly support any war but I will never dishonor those that get called up to prosecute the war regardless of it's lack of popularity.
Gene363 Offline
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Wow, apparently he isn't the only Russian agent in the US. I would think Russia agents would be reticent to identify themselves in a public forum, just saying.
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More evidence of collegiate brainwashing.

Quote:
Academics Retract Study That Found No Racial Disparities Among People Shot By Police

Two psychologists studied 917 fatal police shootings that occurred in 2015 to try to determine if the race of the officer or the civilian who was shot influenced the shooting. Their analysis found no racial disparities among those shot and killed by police. They then published their findings in a respected, peer-reviewed journal.

But when their work was highlighted and cited (in congressional testimony and in various articles), the fact that the study was done at all became “problematic.” Apparently only studies that produce results that conform to the current conventional wisdom that all cops are racist and that they shoot black people in disproportionate numbers are allowed to be published and cited going forward.

You can imagine the effect the experience of those involved in this debacle will have on the quality of research produced by academia in the future.

My June 3 Journal op-ed quoted the [Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences] article’s conclusion verbatim. It set off a firestorm at Michigan State. The university’s Graduate Employees Union pressured the MSU press office to apologize for the “harm it caused” by mentioning my article in a newsletter. The union targeted physicist Steve Hsu, who had approved funding for Mr. [Joseph] Cesario’s research. MSU sacked Mr. Hsu from his administrative position. PNAS editorialized that Messrs. Cesario and [David] Johnson had “poorly framed” their article—the one that got through the journal’s three levels of editorial and peer review.

Mr. Cesario told this page that Mr. Hsu’s dismissal could narrow the “kinds of topics people can talk about, or what kinds of conclusions people can come to.” Now he and Mr. Johnson have themselves jeopardized the possibility of politically neutral scholarship. On Monday they retracted their paper. They say they stand behind its conclusion and statistical approach but complain about its “misuse,” specifically mentioning my op-eds.


https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/academics-retract-study-that-found-no-racial-disparities-among-people-shot-by-police/
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