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HockeyDad Offline
#51 Posted: Wed, Sep 9 2020, 1:07 PM EST
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If the government says she’s alive and can vote, she can vote!
rfenst Offline
#52 Posted: Wed, Sep 9 2020, 1:07 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Dear California Voter,

All California voters will be sent a vote-by-mail ballot with a prepaid postage return envelope for the November 3, 2020 General Election.

All voters can now get critical updates on their ballots through California’s official “Where’s My Ballot?” tracking tool. Signing up takes less than three minutes!

You can select to receive notifications on the status of your vote-by-mail ballot by text (SMS), email, or voice call, including alerts if there are any issues with your ballot and instructions for how to correct them to make sure your vote is counted.

Don't miss out on the opportunity to track your ballot every step of the way!
How the hell are the people displaced by the fires going to vote?

You are supposed to be able to track ballot sent, ballot received, and ballot counted. I think I’ll sign up for tracking to see if I’ve already voted for Biden and all tax increases!

How the hell are the people displaced by the fires going to vote without undue burden?
victor809 Offline
#53 Posted: Wed, Sep 9 2020, 1:10 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
she may not be dead, could be in the attic.


She's the faceless old woman who secretly lives in your home?
HockeyDad Offline
#54 Posted: Wed, Sep 9 2020, 1:13 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
How the hell are the people displaced by the fires going to vote without undue burden?


They’ll count their missing votes as Biden votes. With 0% of the precincts reporting, CNN has already declared Biden the winner in California.
frankj1 Online
#55 Posted: Wed, Sep 9 2020, 2:34 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
She's the faceless old woman who secretly lives in your home?

that's not Mildred.
her name is Natalie.

Natalie Attired.
victor809 Offline
#56 Posted: Wed, Sep 9 2020, 3:35 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
that's not Mildred.
her name is Natalie.

Natalie Attired.


that's weird. that's apparently the name of some clothing shopping service.

Nah, I was referencing a podcast/book thing.... no one here is going to get it, too obscure.
frankj1 Online
#57 Posted: Wed, Sep 9 2020, 5:56 PM EST
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an old old hipster phrase for well dressed...a natty dresser, nattily attired.
more for men than women I think
delta1 Offline
#58 Posted: Wed, Sep 9 2020, 7:31 PM EST
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whenever I hear Natalie, I get Wood
frankj1 Online
#59 Posted: Wed, Sep 9 2020, 8:29 PM EST
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the kind of wood that doesn't float
tailgater Offline
#60 Posted: Thu, Sep 10 2020, 12:09 PM EST
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But washes up on the beach?


Too soon?
seamusKenmare Offline
#61 Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2020, 2:42 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
Where and when did he say this? Seriously! I want to know, please validate your assertion.
You better not be BSing because the next thing you might try to say is Trump wants dead people and illegal aliens to vote too.


Wilmington NC at or after his speech aboard the USS North Carolina last week.
Dg west deptford Offline
#62 Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2020, 6:27 PM EST
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The mail in vote will be determined by whomever has the most best lawyers.
frankj1 Online
#63 Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2020, 6:36 PM EST
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no need to take Trump's advice and violate Federal Law by mailing AND voting in person to make sure your vote got counted...at least in MA mail ins can be tracked.

Just did mine, left myself plenty of time in case it did not get processed.
Easy enough for almost anyone to do...

https://www.sec.state.ma.us/wheredoivotema/track/trackmyballot.aspx
frankj1 Online
#64 Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2020, 6:42 PM EST
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per Newsweek, as of a month ago...

As a large number of Americans prepare to vote by mail in November's presidential election, the majority of states have developed systems where residents can track the status of their ballot.

Currently, 39 states and Washington, D.C., have the capability to track mail-in ballots, according to an interactive map published and updated by NBC News. These states are: Alabama; Alaska; Arkansas; Arizona; California; Colorado; Delaware; Georgia; Florida; Idaho; Iowa; Kansas; Kentucky; Louisiana; Maryland; Massachusetts; Michigan; Minnesota; Montana; Nebraska; Nevada; New Hampshire; New Jersey; North Dakota; Ohio; Oklahoma; Oregon; Pennsylvania; Rhode Island; South Carolina; South Dakota; Tennessee; Texas; Utah; Vermont; Virginia; Washington; West Virginia and Wyoming.
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#65 Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2020, 7:08 PM EST
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CelticBomber Offline
#66 Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2020, 9:27 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
The key fact is:
Trump told his supporters to go to their polling place and check if their mail-in vote had been counted, “if not, vote, which is every American’s right” — then suggested that if their mail-in ballot arrives after they’ve voted, “it won’t count because your vote’s already been cast and tabulated.”

I can understand that, I don't trust mail in voting either. How do you know your vote was counted and didn't end up in a dumpster?


No. What he said was vote by mail then go to the polling place and vote again and if the system is as good as they say it is one won't count. The problem with that is it's illegal. It's not a "Hey! Vote twice and let's see if they catch it!" system. Voting twice is illegal. There's no wiggle room.
HockeyDad Offline
#67 Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2020, 10:06 PM EST
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If the elections office counts both votes that their problem for having a crappy system.
CelticBomber Offline
#68 Posted: Wed, Sep 16 2020, 11:36 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
If the elections office counts both votes that their problem for having a crappy system.



I agree! Let's all break the law and if we don't get caught it's their fault!
HockeyDad Offline
#69 Posted: Thu, Sep 17 2020, 10:56 AM EST
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The best way to test the flaws and gaps in various counties’ elections systems is mass mail-in ballots being mandated but only giving the elections offices a few months to get ready. Vote early, vote often!
RayR Offline
#70 Posted: Thu, Sep 17 2020, 12:37 PM EST
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CelticBomber wrote:
No. What he said was vote by mail then go to the polling place and vote again and if the system is as good as they say it is one won't count. The problem with that is it's illegal. It's not a "Hey! Vote twice and let's see if they catch it!" system. Voting twice is illegal. There's no wiggle room.


Obviously you don't read or listen too good...or you just read or hear what you want oblivious of reality?
Smooth light Offline
#71 Posted: Thu, Sep 17 2020, 12:52 PM EST
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Woof woof what about my vote.
CelticBomber Offline
#72 Posted: Thu, Sep 17 2020, 6:36 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
Obviously you don't read or listen too good...or you just read or hear what you want oblivious of reality?



"So let them send it in and let them go vote, and if their system's as good as they say it is, then obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated, they'll be able to vote,"

"If it's as good as they say it is, then obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated, they'll be able to vote. So that's the way it is. And that's what they should do,"

- Donald Trump

You should loosen the straps on your hockey helmet. Obviously.

As an aside.... Exactly how much lead paint did you eat as a child?
frankj1 Online
#73 Posted: Thu, Sep 17 2020, 10:18 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
per Newsweek, as of a month ago...

As a large number of Americans prepare to vote by mail in November's presidential election, the majority of states have developed systems where residents can track the status of their ballot.

Currently, 39 states and Washington, D.C., have the capability to track mail-in ballots, according to an interactive map published and updated by NBC News. These states are: Alabama; Alaska; Arkansas; Arizona; California; Colorado; Delaware; Georgia; Florida; Idaho; Iowa; Kansas; Kentucky; Louisiana; Maryland; Massachusetts; Michigan; Minnesota; Montana; Nebraska; Nevada; New Hampshire; New Jersey; North Dakota; Ohio; Oklahoma; Oregon; Pennsylvania; Rhode Island; South Carolina; South Dakota; Tennessee; Texas; Utah; Vermont; Virginia; Washington; West Virginia and Wyoming.




ya gotta be like a idiot if you can't make this work.
If you live in the 11 stoopid states, make some noise at home.

My vote in the primaries got counted.
As will my general election vote.
Smooth light Offline
#74 Posted: Thu, Sep 17 2020, 11:09 PM EST
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But your ID is now known,by their hit squads to come and get you, and destroy. Secrecy of identity you forgot about.
Cigarrob Offline
#75 Posted: Fri, Sep 18 2020, 10:52 AM EST
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If you are serious about displaced persons voting, you can chg. address within 15 days of election, then go vote in person. I am sure the Post Office is holding mail for burned out residences to pick up in person.
Cigarrob Offline
#76 Posted: Fri, Sep 18 2020, 10:56 AM EST
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You have to show a photo I'd when voting in person as well.
Cigarrob Offline
#77 Posted: Fri, Sep 18 2020, 11:03 AM EST
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You have to show a photo I'd when voting in person as well.
Smooth light Offline
#78 Posted: Fri, Sep 18 2020, 11:30 AM EST
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All voter must for FEDERAL ELECTIONS! , CONGRESS STILL HAVEN'T PASS, VOTER ID LAW.
When are State's going to get up speed and use tech,to manage registration of voters?
Cigarrob Offline
#79 Posted: Fri, Sep 18 2020, 11:31 AM EST
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In CA., probably the same as most states they update voter registration records with Public Health records for deceased persons.
RayR Offline
#80 Posted: Fri, Sep 18 2020, 2:34 PM EST
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CelticBomber wrote:
"So let them send it in and let them go vote, and if their system's as good as they say it is, then obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated, they'll be able to vote,"

"If it's as good as they say it is, then obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated, they'll be able to vote. So that's the way it is. And that's what they should do,"

- Donald Trump

You should loosen the straps on your hockey helmet. Obviously.

As an aside.... Exactly how much lead paint did you eat as a child?




The quotes are in reference to North Carolina. Do NC mail-in voters have the ability to check if their vote has been tabulated? NCVOTER.ORG says yes, they use ballottrax so a voter can see status of your ballot, whether or not it was received and accepted. If the system works as they say, then you shouldn't then be able to vote in person and have your vote accepted and counted twice. The question being put forth then is the system trustworthy? A fair question.

There are other serious concerns with mail-in voting itself. In the Democratic Primary One in New York City one out of four mail-in ballots were disqualified for arriving late, lacking a postmark or failing to include a voter’s signature, or other defects.
403,103 mail-in ballots were received, 84,108 ballots were not counted or invalidated.

Also there have been shenanigans pulled by outside political groups.
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article243431061.html

How many ways then can mass mail-in voting potentially cause chaos in a Presidential election?
delta1 Offline
#81 Posted: Fri, Sep 18 2020, 4:53 PM EST
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we have developed, updated, trusted and accepted our election/voting processes for the past 240 plus years...even the closest elections have been accepted, although some did require judicial review and numerous re-counts...

nobody expected Trump to win in 2016 - even he and his campaign were shocked...

people cried but did not threaten an armed insurrection...

if he wins again...same...

if he loses..........
CelticBomber Offline
#82 Posted: Fri, Sep 18 2020, 5:18 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
The quotes are in reference to North Carolina. Do NC mail-in voters have the ability to check if their vote has been tabulated? NCVOTER.ORG says yes, they use ballottrax so a voter can see status of your ballot, whether or not it was received and accepted. If the system works as they say, then you shouldn't then be able to vote in person and have your vote accepted and counted twice. The question being put forth then is the system trustworthy? A fair question.

There are other serious concerns with mail-in voting itself. In the Democratic Primary One in New York City one out of four mail-in ballots were disqualified for arriving late, lacking a postmark or failing to include a voter’s signature, or other defects.
403,103 mail-in ballots were received, 84,108 ballots were not counted or invalidated.

Also there have been shenanigans pulled by outside political groups.
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article243431061.html

How many ways then can mass mail-in voting potentially cause chaos in a Presidential election?



Sophistry.

"So let them send it in and let them go vote..." Do both, see what happens. Illegal. He didn't say mail in your vote and then check the app to see if it was counted and if not then go vote in person. He said do both, see what happens.


Tell yourself whatever you like. It doesn't change what he said. You create your own reality. People don't believe what they see and hear. They see and hear what they already believe. You've created a reality for yourself no different than those other idiots running around burning stuff thinking they're justified.
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#83 Posted: Fri, Sep 18 2020, 8:16 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
The quotes are in reference to North Carolina. Do NC mail-in voters have the ability to check if their vote has been tabulated? NCVOTER.ORG says yes, they use ballottrax so a voter can see status of your ballot, whether or not it was received and accepted. If the system works as they say, then you shouldn't then be able to vote in person and have your vote accepted and counted twice. The question being put forth then is the system trustworthy? A fair question.

There are other serious concerns with mail-in voting itself. In the Democratic Primary One in New York City one out of four mail-in ballots were disqualified for arriving late, lacking a postmark or failing to include a voter’s signature, or other defects.
403,103 mail-in ballots were received, 84,108 ballots were not counted or invalidated.

Also there have been shenanigans pulled by outside political groups.
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article243431061.html

How many ways then can mass mail-in voting potentially cause chaos in a Presidential election?




North Carolina was not among the 39 states in my post.
It is still among the 11 stoopid states.

anyone sending past due date or not properly signing is also stoopid.
Sucks to be them.
AshholecigarclubDave Offline
#84 Posted: Fri, Sep 18 2020, 9:26 PM EST
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I believe so many people are afraid he’s gonna win again. Stop the madness. These elections are done electronically.
Smooth light Offline
#85 Posted: Fri, Sep 18 2020, 11:26 PM EST
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TDS! IN FULL DISPLAY
🌹smell good, not B💩 don't,
let everyone legally vote,
that's your hope,
so some can smoke dope
bgz Offline
#86 Posted: Sat, Sep 19 2020, 9:29 AM EST
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CelticBomber wrote:
Sophistry.

"So let them send it in and let them go vote..." Do both, see what happens. Illegal. He didn't say mail in your vote and then check the app to see if it was counted and if not then go vote in person. He said do both, see what happens.


Tell yourself whatever you like. It doesn't change what he said. You create your own reality. People don't believe what they see and hear. They see and hear what they already believe. You've created a reality for yourself no different than those other idiots running around burning stuff thinking they're justified.


Yep, Trump asked his supporters to commit a felony on his behalf. That's the way I read it.
DrafterX Offline
#87 Posted: Sat, Sep 19 2020, 9:34 AM EST
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He also corrected himself within a few hours... Biden says stupid chit everyday and it gets dismissed like it never happened... Mellow
bgz Offline
#88 Posted: Sat, Sep 19 2020, 9:42 AM EST
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X, he does that all the time... spits out some sociopathic mind games, then comes out later and says it was a joke... or he didn't mean it that way...

Dude... trust me, he means it every fkin time... not only is the original message calculated, but so is the clean up response.

And even if it was unintentional... it doesn't change the fact he asked his supporters to commit a felony on his behalf... ignorance is not an excuse for the potus asking half the country to commit a felony.
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#89 Posted: Sat, Sep 19 2020, 9:43 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
He also corrected himself within a few hours... Biden says stupid chit everyday and it gets dismissed like it never happened... Mellow


There's a difference between an error and an incredibly stupid comment or commentary that suggests people commit a felony or inject themselves with clorox or disinfectants.
Smooth light Offline
#90 Posted: Sat, Sep 19 2020, 10:46 AM EST
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Allegories are illustrations of principal,and concepts not true statements of your
comprehension of speech.

Stop twistings it out of context and repeating it as it was real. Perpetrating myths are not true.
RayR Offline
#91 Posted: Sat, Sep 19 2020, 11:49 AM EST
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CelticBomber wrote:
Sophistry.

"So let them send it in and let them go vote..." Do both, see what happens. Illegal. He didn't say mail in your vote and then check the app to see if it was counted and if not then go vote in person. He said do both, see what happens.


Tell yourself whatever you like. It doesn't change what he said. You create your own reality. People don't believe what they see and hear. They see and hear what they already believe. You've created a reality for yourself no different than those other idiots running around burning stuff thinking they're justified.


OHHHHH!!!! I'm so sorry, there I go again. I don't see and hear what you want to see and hear. How dare I believe that every new adventure gubment engages in will be FUBAR.
How could mass mail-in voting ever go wrong? Certainly things will work like a Swiss watch, even dead people and illegals will not be able to penetrate. After all everything gubment has done in the past has worked out exactly as they planned and promised. Right?
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#92 Posted: Sat, Sep 19 2020, 12:19 PM EST
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FUBAR; I recall when the boss asked me what the problem is. Thanks for the memories.

Have a cigar
CelticBomber Offline
#93 Posted: Sat, Sep 19 2020, 1:32 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
OHHHHH!!!! I'm so sorry, there I go again. I don't see and hear what you want to see and hear. How dare I believe that every new adventure gubment engages in will be FUBAR.
How could mass mail-in voting ever go wrong? Certainly things will work like a Swiss watch, even dead people and illegals will not be able to penetrate. After all everything gubment has done in the past has worked out exactly as they planned and promised. Right?



I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about what Trump said. Now we're debating mail in votes. Not the fact that he encouraged everyone to commit a felony? It's interesting to watch your reality shift to suit your needs.
RayR Offline
#94 Posted: Sat, Sep 19 2020, 2:31 PM EST
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CelticBomber wrote:
I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about what Trump said. Now we're debating mail in votes. Not the fact that he encouraged everyone to commit a felony? It's interesting to watch your reality shift to suit your needs.


WTF! We were talking about mail-in votes because that is what Trump was talking about.
Trump may not always be the most adept at putting words together in sentence on the fly but unlike you I could understand what he was driving at. For you it wasn't in your interest to understand what he was driving at, so you engage in surgically analysing every word looking for a gotcha. Are you sure you're not an operative for the MSM, maybe CNN or MSNBC?
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#95 Posted: Sat, Sep 19 2020, 5:21 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
WTF! We were talking about mail-in votes because that is what Trump was talking about.
Trump may not always be the most adept at putting words together in sentence on the fly but unlike you I could understand what he was driving at. For you it wasn't in your interest to understand what he was driving at, so you engage in surgically analysing every word looking for a gotcha. Are you sure you're not an operative for the MSM, maybe CNN or MSNBC?


I can see why you're confused. Every time someone holds up a mirror so you can see yourself you turn away. That way, you don't have to examine yourself to closely. We, that's you and I, were involved in a conversation about what Trump said. We were not debating the merits of mail in voting. We were discussing what Trump SAID. What he said was vote twice, see what happens. That's what he was driving at. Period. He wasn't being philosophical. Is truth beauty? Is beauty truth? That you can interpret 'til the cows come home. We, that's us again, were discussing what the President of the United States said about voting during an election for the office of the President of the United States. I expect more from the "Leader of the Free World" than "Hey everybody, go vote twice for me and let's see what happens!" (wink wink nudge nudge) just kidding! Ha ha! You all know what I mean? Right? (Wink)

You've sunk so much of your ego into supporting this guy it's impossible for you to stop and say "Woah! Slow down their good buddy! I'm your guy but, that was out of line!" This TDS disease everyone keeps talking about? You've got it too. Your symptoms are just different.


P.S. Just so you don't wind up spinning your wheels on the whole "Is truth beauty? Is beauty truth?" thing the answer is no. They're both subjective. You can't afford to spin your wheels on something like that. There's not much tread left on your tires.
DrafterX Offline
#96 Posted: Sat, Sep 19 2020, 5:56 PM EST
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Trump clarified his misstatement... why are we still talking about this..??

But OP clearly exposed the risk... Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
#97 Posted: Sat, Sep 19 2020, 6:10 PM EST
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Voting is gonna be like Covid counting this year!

15 out of 10 people in my county tested positive today and 23 of them died.
DrafterX Offline
#98 Posted: Sat, Sep 19 2020, 6:24 PM EST
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Poor bassards... Sad
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#99 Posted: Sat, Sep 19 2020, 7:52 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Trump clarified his misstatement... why are we still talking about this..??

But OP clearly exposed the risk... Mellow

what was the clarification?
DrafterX Offline
#100 Posted: Sat, Sep 19 2020, 8:00 PM EST
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He said to go to the voting place and see if your absentee ballot had been counted and if you were eligible to vote.. that way if it had been lost your vote would still count... unlike the 1,000 people, who got caught, who purposely voted twice as the OP states... but ya, the news kinda fails to mention it...Mellow
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