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Abrignac Offline
#1 Posted:
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There seems to be lots of noise here about how Trump is a terrible and shouldn’t win re-election. Yet, virtually no one who is bashing Trump has given a reason why Biden should be elected.

Beer
gummy jones Offline
#2 Posted:
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because trump
deadeyedick Offline
#3 Posted:
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Because 47 years was not long enough for him to do something?
teedubbya Offline
#4 Posted:
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Lol. But Hillary.
Gene363 Offline
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CelticBomber Offline
#6 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
There seems to be lots of noise here about how Trump is a terrible and shouldn’t win re-election. Yet, virtually no one who is bashing Trump has given a reason why Biden should be elected.

Beer




This is seesaw thinking. Trump is a moron. That doesn't mean I think Biden is a genius. Last election I voted for the green party because there was no way I was voting for Trump or Hillary. This year I'm going to write in and vote for a house plant. I hated Trump WAY before he thought of running for President.

I voted for Tulsi Gabbard in the primaries.
DrafterX Offline
#7 Posted:
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We should write in CROS... Mellow
tonygraz Offline
#8 Posted:
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But if he wins, how will we find him ?
bgz Offline
#9 Posted:
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F*ck Trump. If biden can compare to a house plant I'm in.

I mean he's almost a vegetable right?
frankj1 Offline
#10 Posted:
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Anth, it's been said many times, no one is actually excited to be voting for Biden, but that's how poorly many think of Trump.
Speyside Offline
#11 Posted:
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It isn't a vote for Biden, it's a vote against Trump.
DrafterX Offline
#12 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
It isn't a vote for Trump, it's a vote against Biden.


True... true... Mellow
bgz Offline
#13 Posted:
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Pick your poison. We know how toxic agent orange is... let's try some sleepy time.
MACS Offline
#14 Posted:
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CelticBomber wrote:
This is seesaw thinking. Trump is a moron. That doesn't mean I think Biden is a genius. Last election I voted for the green party because there was no way I was voting for Trump or Hillary. This year I'm going to write in and vote for a house plant. I hated Trump WAY before he thought of running for President.

I voted for Tulsi Gabbard in the primaries.


I've never voted for a dem, but if she were the choice, I just might be able to.
bgz Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
I voted for Sinema. McSally got a little too trumpy in the campaign. I didn't think either of them were a bad choice overall though.

My local trumpians felt victimized... they saw me as disloyal... but I didn't gaf.
Smooth light Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 06-26-2020
Posts: 3,598
Mary Ann with love that should do it 🤭.
No really, orange is better than blackened turf 🔥. But only bearly.
RayR Offline
#17 Posted:
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I wrote in Grover Cleveland once when the 2 party duopoly choices was Obama or Romney and the 3rd party choices weren't that great either. A dead honest man like Grover Cleveland was a better choice by far than those 2 lying #$#$$*&@*.

This year, likely Dr. Jo Jorgensen.
frankj1 Offline
#18 Posted:
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not Gus Hall?
so what if he's dead
DrMaddVibe Offline
#19 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
There seems to be lots of noise here about how Trump is a terrible and shouldn’t win re-election. Yet, virtually no one who is bashing Trump has given a reason why Biden should be elected.

Beer



That's because only a real idiot would say Biden should be elected. That walking gaffe has had almost 50 years of fumbling around, mumbling nonsense and crafting legislation to lock up black Americans. Harris used his legislation like a sledgehammer too!

In this BLM grifter world you'd think they'd rip Biden a new ass. Nope. He gets a Cardi B interview instead! Talk about total pandering.

#walkaway
Mcdanielsamuel Offline
#20 Posted:
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CelticBomber wrote:
This is seesaw thinking. Trump is a moron. That doesn't mean I think Biden is a genius.

Best response!
RayR Offline
#21 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
not Gus Hall?
so what if he's dead


Frank, the only good commie is a dead commie, I wouldn't vote for a live commie anymore than a dead one.
Incidentally that makes me unable to vote for Biden, he's too close to a commie for me to even consider. I'm not sure whether he's living or dead but that doesn't matter does it?
Smooth light Offline
#22 Posted:
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How about Pat Paulsen , dead and a house plant.
ZRX1200 Offline
#23 Posted:
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“He’s almost a vegetable”

Should be his campaign slogan...
frankj1 Offline
#24 Posted:
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RayR wrote:
Frank, the only good commie is a dead commie, I wouldn't vote for a live commie anymore than a dead one.
Incidentally that makes me unable to vote for Biden, he's too close to a commie for me to even consider. I'm not sure whether he's living or dead but that doesn't matter does it?

what's so weird is Biden has been the poster boy for middle of the road politics his whole career...so your characterization is without meaningful analysis of the record showing multiple times his willingness to cross the aisle and build bipartisan consensus.
Probably among the leaders in bipartisan legislation in his career.

Does that make him the stuff of a good POTUS?
No, of course not.
But it does make him less of a blind adherent to one view as you have been claiming.

I was certain I would be voting for a third or fourth party again this year. But Trump is that dangerous.
RayR Offline
#25 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
what's so weird is Biden has been the poster boy for middle of the road politics his whole career...so your characterization is without meaningful analysis of the record showing multiple times his willingness to cross the aisle and build bipartisan consensus.
Probably among the leaders in bipartisan legislation in his career.

Does that make him the stuff of a good POTUS?
No, of course not.
But it does make him less of a blind adherent to one view as you have been claiming.

I was certain I would be voting for a third or fourth party again this year. But Trump is that dangerous.


It only takes analytical blindness to convince yourself that Biden doesn't have highly socialistic tendencies. Don't get into WHATABOUTISM here either, I don't excuse Trump or the Republican Party's atrocious progressive tendencies either, but that's another story.

So what is "middle of the road politics", but an unprincipled approach to issues, all it take is a man that has no rudder.
Whenever I hear the phrase "bipartisan consensus", I immediately know its going to be stupid and evil.

Biden has always been an advocate of top-down central planning, a hallmark of communism and fascism. In other words he has never been a supporter of a free market where consumers are sovereign. (See Obamacare for instance or any of the other government interventions into the marketplace that Biden has supported)

See his current "BUILD BACK BETTER" plans, it's full of authoritarian language that only a commie would enjoy.
Everything is "Mobilize American" this and "Mobilize the American people" to do that.
He clearly believes that society in general needs to be regimented by smart people in government because the proles are morons and need to led, and producers are incompetent and need to be told what to make and how and where to make it.
To be necessarily brainwashed into believing this garbage, you need not know that the most economic troubles were caused by previous government interventions into the economy in the past.

"Mobilize American manufacturing and innovation to ensure that the future is made in America, and in all of America."
That's the old isolationist commie view that an economy can be purely built and maintained within a nations borders under the direction of government central planners. I guess trade, comparative advantage among producers, and the wants and needs of consumers are secondary or even unnecessary factors when authoritarian gubment economics is calling the shots. Yep, Joe's got a "plan to build a strong industrial base and small-business-led supply chains to retain and create millions of good-paying union jobs in manufacturing and technology across the country". Hallelujah! Comrade Joe has yet another new set of commie plans to replace the market economy, yet it all smells suspiciously the same as old failed commie plans to replace the market economy with a collectivist economy.

Mobilize American ingenuity to build a modern infrastructure and an equitable, clean energy future.
"that means investing in a modern, sustainable infrastructure and sustainable engines of growth — from roads and bridges, to energy grids and schools, to universal broadband."
God Almighty! How did we ever get along without gubment "investing" stolen loot for our own good? Obviously we peons are unable to know what we need and want and the private sector doesn't know how to capitalize on it and provide it to us without those holy central planners regimenting the economy and barker orders.
And don't forget the "climate crisis", the one that doesn't exist, the one that is just another excuse to further pick your pocket and make you poorer and the socialist oligarchs richer.

Frank, there's so much more to Comrade Joe's plans to "Mobilize America", do I really need to go on? Please say no Frank, just reading anymore of this socialist tripe is unbearable. Geez! It even makes Trump look even less dangerous by comparison.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#26 Posted:
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I didn't realize fighting for racial segregation was a middle of the road political issue...
rfenst Offline
#27 Posted:
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Posts: 39,251
CelticBomber wrote:
Trump is a moron. That doesn't mean I think Biden is a genius... I hated Trump WAY before he thought of running for President.


Me too.
frankj1 Offline
#28 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
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RayR wrote:
It only takes analytical blindness to convince yourself that Biden doesn't have highly socialistic tendencies. Don't get into WHATABOUTISM here either, I don't excuse Trump or the Republican Party's atrocious progressive tendencies either, but that's another story.

So what is "middle of the road politics", but an unprincipled approach to issues, all it take is a man that has no rudder.
Whenever I hear the phrase "bipartisan consensus", I immediately know its going to be stupid and evil.

Biden has always been an advocate of top-down central planning, a hallmark of communism and fascism. In other words he has never been a supporter of a free market where consumers are sovereign. (See Obamacare for instance or any of the other government interventions into the marketplace that Biden has supported)

See his current "BUILD BACK BETTER" plans, it's full of authoritarian language that only a commie would enjoy.
Everything is "Mobilize American" this and "Mobilize the American people" to do that.
He clearly believes that society in general needs to be regimented by smart people in government because the proles are morons and need to led, and producers are incompetent and need to be told what to make and how and where to make it.
To be necessarily brainwashed into believing this garbage, you need not know that the most economic troubles were caused by previous government interventions into the economy in the past.

"Mobilize American manufacturing and innovation to ensure that the future is made in America, and in all of America."
That's the old isolationist commie view that an economy can be purely built and maintained within a nations borders under the direction of government central planners. I guess trade, comparative advantage among producers, and the wants and needs of consumers are secondary or even unnecessary factors when authoritarian gubment economics is calling the shots. Yep, Joe's got a "plan to build a strong industrial base and small-business-led supply chains to retain and create millions of good-paying union jobs in manufacturing and technology across the country". Hallelujah! Comrade Joe has yet another new set of commie plans to replace the market economy, yet it all smells suspiciously the same as old failed commie plans to replace the market economy with a collectivist economy.

Mobilize American ingenuity to build a modern infrastructure and an equitable, clean energy future.
"that means investing in a modern, sustainable infrastructure and sustainable engines of growth — from roads and bridges, to energy grids and schools, to universal broadband."
God Almighty! How did we ever get along without gubment "investing" stolen loot for our own good? Obviously we peons are unable to know what we need and want and the private sector doesn't know how to capitalize on it and provide it to us without those holy central planners regimenting the economy and barker orders.
And don't forget the "climate crisis", the one that doesn't exist, the one that is just another excuse to further pick your pocket and make you poorer and the socialist oligarchs richer.

Frank, there's so much more to Comrade Joe's plans to "Mobilize America", do I really need to go on? Please say no Frank, just reading anymore of this socialist tripe is unbearable. Geez! It even makes Trump look even less dangerous by comparison.

sorry Ray.

I can't take anything seriously that starts with the premise that Biden is a communist. No idea how long you've been on Earth, but I've been voting age for his whole career and it's humorous to hear this new style bundling-of-all-levels-of- liberal-thought-style of attack.

The current, widely accepted definition of progressives in his own party are trying to drag him incrementally left, just read some of Sanders statements.

You are so indoctrinated into whatever it is you espouse that you have been lashing out and name calling 98.2% of politicians and posters while telling everyone else they are close minded and blind.

Neither side owns fear tactics. You've been punked.

I have weighed many of your posts, I respect and weigh many others as well, not all, but I'm gonna guess here you instantly turn up your nose at all others that differ....That nose is blocking your eyes.

I have zero issue with you believing as you do, but don't assume you have it all figured out.

as my father used to say...

Dad- only a fool is positive.
me- are you sure?
Dad- I'm positive.

delta1 Offline
#29 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I didn't realize fighting for racial segregation was a middle of the road political issue...


MAGA
HockeyDad Offline
#30 Posted:
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Biden is no communist. He’s on old white rich racist mainline career Democrat politician.

The problem is Biden will step down in two years for health reasons so President Harris can have two years to establish her agenda before running for re-election. The people will have no say at all as to who her Vice President is. It’s like trading Trump and Pence for Harris and a player to be named later.
frankj1 Offline
#31 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Biden is no communist. He’s on old white rich racist mainline career Democrat politician.

The problem is Biden will step down in two years for health reasons so President Harris can have two years to establish her agenda before running for re-election. The people will have no say at all as to who her Vice President is. It’s like trading Trump and Pence for Harris and a player to be named later.

I'd make that two year trade.
Better than if Pence took over for two years...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#32 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,389
ZRX1200 wrote:
“He’s almost a vegetable”

Should be his campaign slogan...



On meds for his sundowning.

https://youtu.be/N0dOuEra_g8
DrMaddVibe Offline
#33 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,389
HockeyDad wrote:
Biden is no communist. He’s on old white rich racist mainline career Democrat politician.

The problem is Biden will step down in two years for health reasons so President Harris can have two years to establish her agenda before running for re-election. The people will have no say at all as to who her Vice President is. It’s like trading Trump and Pence for Harris and a player to be named later.



Two years????


Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan

More like 2 weeks!!! The DNC will have the 25th Amendment clause on ice starting at the supposed inauguration!

The proles, the plantation owners and the slaves will line up to cast their TDS vote much like the nation went with the impeachment. It happened but the majority didn't want it.

LATE ADD DUE TO NEW INFO:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-accidentally-touts-plans-in-a-harris-administration-during-virtual-roundtable


Might be 2 days! Maybe 2 minutes. He's there so they can drag him across the finish line and wipe their collective asses with him or blame him for being a weak candidate to not tarnish any of the other commies.

https://youtu.be/hQ2mWrejgnc
rfenst Offline
#34 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,251
frankj1 wrote:
I'd make that two year trade.
Better than if Pence took over for two years...

Yes.

“While some of us hold policy positions that differ from those of Joe Biden and his party, the time to debate those policy differences will come later. For now, it is imperative that we stop Trump’s assault on our nation’s values and institutions and reinstate the moral foundations of our democracy.”
DrMaddVibe Offline
#35 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
For now, it is imperative that we stop Trump’s assault on our nation’s values and institutions and reinstate the moral foundations of our democracy.”



Please expound on this.

Moral foundations of our democracy? I AM curious about that.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#36 Posted:
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I was also jumping in to hear more about our "nations values"... is that like when blm says they reject the family structure that provides the most success? Are those the values we're taking about? Or antifas values, where they physically assault people they disagree with?

What are our nation's values? I remember dems pushing back against the very idea of national values when the president they elected got his ****** sucked by one of his very young employees at work...
Smooth light Offline
#37 Posted:
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Off with their heads, if they disagree.

Peaceful riots, ambush cops, entitlements f*uk working.
bgz Offline
#38 Posted:
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Nations' values... amendments 1 and 2... trump has proven he's not a friend of either... he likes to flex on the first... the second is not as obvious.
DrafterX Offline
#39 Posted:
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Does Trump rule over PA..??

A federal judge on Monday ruled that some of Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf's restrictions implemented amid the ongoing coronavirus pandemic were unconstitutional -- marking a win for businesses struggling to stay afloat amid the forced shutdown.


U.S. District Judge William Stickman IV, who was appointed by President Trump, sided with plaintiffs that included hair salons, drive-in movie theaters, a farmer's market vendor, a horse trainer and several Republican officeholders in their lawsuit against Wolf, a Democrat, and his health secretary.

The ruling found that Wolf's restrictions that required people to stay at home, placed size limits on gatherings and ordered "non-life-sustaining" businesses to shut down were unconstitutional.

The Wolf administration's pandemic policies have been overreaching, arbitrary and violated citizens' constitutional rights, Stickman wrote in his ruling.



Film at 11.... Mellow
Smooth light Offline
#40 Posted:
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Brotherly love, they love to hate everyone equality.
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