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Dg west deptford Offline
#51 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 1:27 PM EST
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Dr. Anthony Faucci said recently Trump was never dishonest about the virus. He even said in late February that the American people shouldn't change a thing about their daily routines. (So Faucci lied?) Duh! Meanwhile Trump was acting decisively to protect us by shutting down travel saving lives that Biden would've killed with pc panzy azz pandering to racists.
Thank God for Trump who doesn't care if he offends the delicate sensibilities of murderous fools like Cuomo, Pelosi, & Schumer.
Smooth light Offline
#52 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 1:29 PM EST
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How do elephants climb trees?
Act like a nut and let the squirrels take them up. 🤗
DrMaddVibe Offline
#53 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 2:58 PM EST
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Dg west deptford wrote:
Dr. Anthony Faucci said recently Trump was never dishonest about the virus. He even said in late February that the American people shouldn't change a thing about their daily routines. (So Faucci lied?) Duh! Meanwhile Trump was acting decisively to protect us by shutting down travel saving lives that Biden would've killed with pc panzy azz pandering to racists.
Thank God for Trump who doesn't care if he offends the delicate sensibilities of murderous fools like Cuomo, Pelosi, & Schumer.



Lest anyone forget what the World Health Organization had to say at the onset of this. The W.H.O.. Sounds real official and believable. Even has Health in the title.

https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/27-04-2020-who-timeline---covid-19


...but Trump and that daggone TDS.
Dg west deptford Offline
#54 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 5:05 PM EST
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It is amazing how easily the fable news network is able to deceive folks infected with the TDS.
All this stuff is just so obvious yet there's still a few poor souls who believe Trump failed us on the china attack.

Biden actually said today that if Trump gets reelected the fires, floods & storms will be worse!
Do fools actually believe Trump or his policies have the power to alter our climate?!
Maybe it's his orange-ness that caused the fires and not progressive tree huggers cancelling common sense forest management.
Have another molotov cocktail coup-tards it's misery hour
delta1 Offline
#55 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 5:22 PM EST
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If Trump has been aligned with Fauci from the beginning and continues to be on the same page...

then why is he still downplaying the virus's danger, holding political rallies indoors with thousands of attendees, no mask or social distancing requirements?

Fauci has consistently advised everyone to wear masks when you go out of the house, especially if you're unable to social distance, and that attending indoor gatherings is foolish...
Smooth light Offline
#56 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 5:25 PM EST
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You tell'em, but I think it's a waste of breath.

Their stuck on stupid.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#57 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 5:35 PM EST
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Smooth light wrote:
You tell'em, but I think it's a waste of breath.

Their stuck on stupid.

I think the voices in your head are talking sh*t about each other again...
DrafterX Offline
#58 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 6:01 PM EST
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You hear them too..?? Huh
deadeyedick Offline
#59 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 6:03 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
If Trump has been aligned with Fauci from the beginning and continues to be on the same page...

then why is he still downplaying the virus's danger, holding political rallies indoors with thousands of attendees, no mask or social distancing requirements?

Fauci has consistently advised everyone to wear masks when you go out of the house, especially if you're unable to social distance, and that attending indoor gatherings is foolish...


Pants on fire! Fauci was one of the originals to advise against masks for the masses in the early days of the pandemic. His decision was correct at the time as he feared there were not enough PPE and should be reserved for the first responders.

There is a consistent belief perpetrated by the news organizations that the US is by far in the worst shape of all the first world countries concerning COVID but last time I saw any real numbers on deaths we are about equal % of population with England, France, Italy and Spain. They must be all Trumpers I guess.
Smooth light Offline
#60 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 6:08 PM EST
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You give head both of you! No thanks 😁.
delta1 Offline
#61 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 6:12 PM EST
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here are the COVID19 mortality rates per 100K population worldwide...US has more deaths per 100K population than most every other advance nation...

more than 1 in five people who have died from the disease in the world were Americans...that's more than 20%...the US population is only 4% of the world population


the site also shows case/mortality rates, but those numbers can be skewed by testing inefficiencies or manipulation of testing by individual countries...

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
DrafterX Offline
#62 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 6:15 PM EST
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Well, if it's on da internets it true right..?? Mellow
deadeyedick Offline
#63 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 6:18 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
here are the COVID19 mortality rates per 100K population worldwide...US has more deaths per 100K population than most every other advance nation

the site also shows case/mortality rates, but those numbers can be skewed by testing inefficiencies or manipulation by individual countries...

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality


Seems that report only includes Spain. I guess France, Italy and England don't count?
delta1 Offline
#64 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 6:23 PM EST
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click on the "mortality by 100K population": at the top of the first graph, then scroll down the page to see the entire ranking of the world's countries...
Dg west deptford Offline
#65 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 6:39 PM EST
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Have you considered that we may be a tad better at accounting than other nations this skewing the stats?
Have you also considered we've got a fat problem as compared to other nations?
Just saying
delta1 Offline
#66 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 6:55 PM EST
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it's possible...

but as a counterpoint, the US has prided ourselves in the quality of our healthcare system...
tonygraz Offline
#67 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 6:58 PM EST
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Have you considered that our numbers may be lower than reality because of pressure to downplay them.
delta1 Offline
#68 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 6:59 PM EST
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that's reality...see Florida...

and CDC's new guidelines for testing, which has abandoned the idea of identifying asymptomatic carriers...
frankj1 Offline
#69 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 7:05 PM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
Pants on fire! Fauci was one of the originals to advise against masks for the masses in the early days of the pandemic. His decision was correct at the time as he feared there were not enough PPE and should be reserved for the first responders.


yes.
much different than what concerns many about misinformation that Trump continued to state to us.

and news of pressure applied to nonpartisan medical/science departments to distort their findings as it makes Trump look bad?

It gets worse...
frankj1 Offline
#70 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 7:06 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
that's reality...see Florida...

and CDC's new guidelines for testing, which has abandoned the idea of identifying asymptomatic carriers...

and Texas holding off reporting cases to spread the numbers around over the coming months...
RobertHively Offline
#71 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 7:12 PM EST
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And Georgia. Remember when I broke the story about Georgia only having 10,000 people left due to Covid-19 complications??

Totally got downplayed.
Speyside Offline
#72 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 7:23 PM EST
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Hey! That was fake news! They had 11,000 left. They had millions right.
HockeyDad Offline
#73 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 7:33 PM EST
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And California burning the Covid dead while telling the nation it was forest fire smoke.
Speyside Offline
#74 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 7:39 PM EST
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^^^
Are there any fires near you?
HockeyDad Offline
#75 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 7:43 PM EST
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No fire threat in my area but they’re stacking the bodies like cordwood and lighting them off everywhere. The smoke and ash is awful.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#76 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 9:39 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
If Trump has been aligned with Fauci from the beginning and continues to be on the same page...

then why is he still downplaying the virus's danger, holding political rallies indoors with thousands of attendees, no mask or social distancing requirements?

Fauci has consistently advised everyone to wear masks when you go out of the house, especially if you're unable to social distance, and that attending indoor gatherings is foolish...


Why?

To make sure people like you explode and stuff. Meanwhile, BLM and ANTIFA riot in the streets with no masks or social distancing.

Ever see Fauci wear a mask at a baseball game while social distancing?

Yeah.
frankj1 Offline
#77 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2020, 10:04 PM EST
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who goes to baseball games?
I actually watch, no one in the stands!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#78 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 8:52 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
who goes to baseball games?
I actually watch, no one in the stands!



You're not Platinum Membership either!


https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/anthony-fauci-face-mask-down-photo-coronavirus/507-e33379cb-d79e-479b-9960-13293c96572f


Still think its all been a great idea? "Do as I say, not as I do!"...If you can't see the hypocrisy in this, I can't and won't help you.
frankj1 Offline
#79 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 11:57 AM EST
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so small and desperate.
Thinking I am well beyond requiring help like this nonsense from you.

You can do much better.

Tell us how Trump didn't call Woodward to tell him one thing and then told us something much different.

Is it the belief of blind supporters that he lied to Woodward? Or what? Why does a POTUS always need days of others explaining about what his words really meant?

Clean up the reports because they make me look bad and it's an election year? Yeah, maybe get him some help with the truth.
DrafterX Offline
#80 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 12:16 PM EST
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Harris said when she becomes president she will mandate only straw foods will be allowed.... no matter what da governors say... Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
#81 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 12:26 PM EST
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It’s kinda funny that we’re butt hurt that Trump downplayed the Wuhan. Based on what you were told, I remember distinctly how you people cleaned out the groceries stores and even hoarded toilet paper.

Your track record with regards to information isn’t good.

deadeyedick Offline
#82 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 12:34 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
click on the "mortality by 100K population": at the top of the first graph, then scroll down the page to see the entire ranking of the world's countries...


This confirms what I said above. Mortality /100K population

Spain 63.88
Italy 58.95
France 46.21
England 62.76
US 59.45

Never hear on the news that the US is doing as good or better than many other first world countries do you? Wonder why that is.Think
rfenst Offline
#83 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 12:37 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
It’s kinda funny that we’re butt hurt that Trump downplayed the Wuhan. Based on what you were told, I remember distinctly how you people cleaned out the groceries stores and even hoarded toilet paper.

Your track record with regards to information isn’t good.


Exactly which "people" are you referring to?
DrafterX Offline
#84 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 12:37 PM EST
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The last time a politician lied and killed people was Hillary & Obama during the Bengazi thing... but it was dismissed as for the good of the country or somethin... outrage wasn't allowed or tolerated.. Mellow
rfenst Offline
#85 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 1:07 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
The last time a politician lied and killed people was Hillary & Obama during the Bengazi thing... but it was dismissed as for the good of the country or somethin... outrage wasn't allowed or tolerated.. Mellow

Oh, Yeah?
Well what about Nixon...
Smooth light Offline
#86 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 1:07 PM EST
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Two blatherskiters trying to convince each of codswallop.

DrafterX Offline
#87 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 1:15 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Oh, Yeah?
Well what about Nixon...


I said the last time.... Beer
Smooth light Offline
#88 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 1:34 PM EST
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Good old tricky ****** and bubba and the sax
Days of future past.
Smooth light Offline
#89 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 1:40 PM EST
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PC stupidity censoring names not objects. I feel sorry for people named richard.
DrafterX Offline
#90 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 1:46 PM EST
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especially Little Richard... Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
#91 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 4:19 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Exactly which "people" are you referring to?


Anybody who would get butt hurt by me saying “you people”!
delta1 Offline
#92 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 5:07 PM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
This confirms what I said above. Mortality /100K population

Spain 63.88
Italy 58.95
France 46.21
England 62.76
US 59.45

Never hear on the news that the US is doing as good or better than many other first world countries do you? Wonder why that is.Think


because the five you name have numbers that are terrible compared to most of the rest of the world...

you're bragging that we have the 11th worst mortality rate among nations in the world...a couple of them above us, doing worse: Brazil, Ecuador, Belgium, Peru, Chile...

our numbers are comparable to those of the European countries that behaved similarly to our response... a rogue's gallery near the top of the heap, just below backwards poverty stricken nations


let's look at other first world countries whose governments took the virus seriously:

Netherlands - 36.84
Canada - 24.9
Germany - 11.28
Denmark - 10.92
Austria - 8.56
Norway - 4.99
Australia - 3.26
Japan - 1.15
S. Korea - 0.71
Speyside Offline
#93 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 5:10 PM EST
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Trump lied HD, quit deflecting and address that. There is absolute proof that he lied. I am not but hurt, I am pissed, rather different. Directly address that Trump lied. Many Fn morons died because they believed him. Not a fact, just my opinion, but I think an accurate one.

If you want to have a discussion in a different thread about the economic ruin of our country and our people, and the psychiatric ruin of so many people do that in a different thread. That is a realistic truth, but not what this thread is about. I expect better intelect from you and virtually everyone else here than what RarRay, SlimShady, and DG post.
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#94 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 5:13 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
This is for the Trump supporters here. How do you justify Trumps lie about COVID19 to every American? He knew how deadly it is and has lied about it so many times I have lost count. I'm not interested in deflection, or raising other issues. I would like direct comment on my question.


How can you tell Trump is lying?

Exactly. His lips move.
delta1 Offline
#95 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 5:17 PM EST
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and when his lies are exposed...he doubles down, and knows his followers will believe his latest lie and forget his past lies...

how else to explain his jam-packed indoor rallies...
fiddler898 Offline
#96 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 5:18 PM EST
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4 lies in one statement:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/politics/fact-check-trump-mccabe-clinton-mcauliffe/index.html
fiddler898 Offline
#97 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 5:19 PM EST
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4 lies in one statement:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/politics/fact-check-trump-mccabe-clinton-mcauliffe/index.html
victor809 Offline
#98 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 5:19 PM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
This confirms what I said above. Mortality /100K population

Spain 63.88
Italy 58.95
France 46.21
England 62.76
US 59.45

Never hear on the news that the US is doing as good or better than many other first world countries do you? Wonder why that is.Think


This makes no sense.
The US is at #11 in "worst ranking" for mortality/100k.
And literally the only two 1st world countries doing worse are UK and Spain.
#12 is Italy
#13 is Sweden (hey the one everyone pointed to and said "look, they didn't shut down, we should be like them!"

We are literally in the same class as Ecuador and Brazil right now. Not exactly "first world"
Italy and Spain were hit early and hard. Their mortality rate came from that first wave. You know, the one that we should have been able to react to and have a better response?
Dg west deptford Offline
#99 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 5:24 PM EST
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Absolute proof?
Sounds alot like absolute truth. You may believe in that sort of thing Spey but some here don't accept the existence of suchlike.
Your particular use may be a bit of a stretch.
victor809 Offline
#100 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2020, 5:26 PM EST
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Dg west deptford wrote:
Absolute proof?
Sounds alot like absolute truth. You may believe in that sort of thing Spey but some here don't accept the existence of suchlike.
Your particular use may be a bit of a stretch.


Words don't have the same meaning just because they sound similar.
You're trying to play the same dumb "absolute truth" game you think is clever, but is riddled with poor reasoning.
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