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sfg391 Offline
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Okay, what do you think is the correct answer ?
I sent MY answer to Frank in a PM, before posting this, just in case someone posts the same thing. That way, they won't think I copied their answer.

If I had 4 eggs
A thief gives me 3
My farm rooster lays 5 eggs
How many eggs do I have?

MACS Offline
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Roosters don't lay eggs
sfg391 Offline
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MACS wrote:
Roosters don't lay eggs


Well, THAT'S a given, Macs. d'oh!
So how many eggs do I have ?
victor809 Offline
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Does a rooster not laying eggs make those 5 eggs disappear? Or are there still 5 eggs, just from unknown provenance?
And if a thief gives you 3 eggs, do you have 3 more eggs? Or are you just holding 3 eggs someone else owns? Did the thief steal these eggs or is he just a car thief?

this seems like a very poorly written brain teaser.
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Also the term "had 4 eggs" is past tense.


So the answer could be 0. Since you've past tense had 4...

"gives" is an indeterminate "present indefinite" tense, which can indicate something happening "right now" or something which happens regularly. So is "lays".
sfg391 Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Does a rooster not laying eggs make those 5 eggs disappear? Or are there still 5 eggs, just from unknown provenance?
And if a thief gives you 3 eggs, do you have 3 more eggs? Or are you just holding 3 eggs someone else owns? Did the thief steal these eggs or is he just a car thief?

this seems like a very poorly written brain teaser.



Agreed, but is that your final answer ?
DrafterX Offline
#7 Posted:
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If you 'had' 4 eggs do you still have them..?? Think
victor809 Offline
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So at one point in time you had 4 eggs..... maybe ("if"? for a past tense?)
A thief is either currently giving you 3 eggs, or regularly gives you 3 eggs (but hasn't necessarily yet)... so you either have 3 eggs in your possession, or will be handed 3 eggs in a regular period. Whether these eggs are now yours or not is indeterminate.
Another 5 eggs appear mysteriously, either once right now, or at a regular time. You attribute these eggs to a rooster, but that's impossible. However, the origin of these eggs shouldn't alter their existence.
victor809 Offline
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sfg391 wrote:
Agreed, but is that your final answer ?


I mean, my final answer is that it's a poorly written brain teaser.

Depending on how one intends to interpret the wording of each line, you could have anywhere from 0 eggs to 12 eggs.
victor809 Offline
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The only thing that one could say with certainty is that the 5 eggs which the author attributes to their rooster must actually exist.
Their use of a present indefinite tense however does not tell us whether these 5 eggs have occurred now, or perhaps occur on some regular basis (perhaps the 4 eggs identified in the past tense were the remaining eggs from the last time the "rooster" gave them to him)....

So all we know is that either right now, or not now but on a regular basis, 5 eggs appear in his possession. We cannot say whether they have appeared in the current present.
DrafterX Offline
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I'm eating some eggs right now... Mellow
Plowboy221 Offline
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Spaghetti
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#13 Posted:
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Reminds me I gotta feed n water the chickens today.
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4
Gene363 Offline
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Three
ZRX1200 Offline
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Are these European chickens or African chickens?
Krazeehorse Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Are these European chickens or African chickens?

Racist!
sfg391 Offline
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Thank you, gentlemen.
I KNEW you wouldn't disappoint, (especially YOU, Victor).

FWIW, these were my thoughts, as far as an answer.

"IF" you had 4 eggs is subjective, so, theoretically, you MAY NOT have 4 eggs.
A thief gives you 3. Three what ? Eggs? Dollars? Cookies?
So . . . There is no definitive numerical answer.

Basically, in the same ballpark as Victor's answer, except my answer would be a "single, (possibly a double), whereas Victor's would definitely be a "Grand Slam".

sfg
victor809 Offline
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Ah... I missed the lack of definition of what the thief gave you.... But I was so caught up in what the provenance of it might be that I ended up in the same place with that line.
Speyside Offline
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>=0

Had 4 eggs has no meaning. You could now have between 0 and an infinite number eggs.

Thief gave me 3 has no meaning. You have 3 . Of what?

My rooster played 5 eggs has no meaning. That statement is false. It is either inaccurate or a lie.

The number of eggs is undefined. Not between 0 and 12, rather between 0 and infinity.
Speyside Offline
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The correct answer is an unknown number of eggs
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#22 Posted:
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sfg391 wrote:
Thank you, gentlemen.
I KNEW you wouldn't disappoint, (especially YOU, Victor).

FWIW, these were my thoughts, as far as an answer.

"IF" you had 4 eggs is subjective, so, theoretically, you MAY NOT have 4 eggs.
A thief gives you 3. Three what ? Eggs? Dollars? Cookies?
So . . . There is no definitive numerical answer.

Basically, in the same ballpark as Victor's answer, except my answer would be a "single, (possibly a double), whereas Victor's would definitely be a "Grand Slam".

sfg

I verify that this matched the answer Single Fat Guy pm'd me.

this was a tough one to crack.
DrafterX Offline
#23 Posted:
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That's why I didn't thro an answer out.. plus I ate 3 of them... Mellow
tonygraz Offline
#24 Posted:
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You ate stolen eggs ! Destroying evidence is a crime.
Palama Offline
#25 Posted:
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I like Twizzlers more than Red Whips or Red Vines.

Of course ymmv.
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