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YouTube’s Political Censorship The company suddenly removes an interview with Trump’s virus adviser
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WSJ
By The Editorial Board
Sept. 14, 2020

Li Wenliang, the Chinese doctor who tried to raise the alarm about the coronavirus in 2019 and was muzzled by the government before himself succumbing to the disease, has become a symbol of the way controls on speech can endanger the public. America’s civil liberties ensure that couldn’t happen here. But YouTube’s latest effort at politicized censorship of a reputable physician reminds us that such impulses aren’t unique to China.

On Friday Google’s YouTube platform notified Stanford University’s Hoover Institution that it had removed a 50-minute video interview with Scott Atlas, a neuroradiologist and Hoover fellow, that was published in June. Dr. Atlas has argued publicly—including in an interview in our pages—that the social harm from strict coronavirus lockdowns is severe.

YouTube’s notice to Hoover says “YouTube does not allow content that spreads medical misinformation that contradicts the World Health Organization (WHO) or local health authorities’ medical information about COVID-19.” Note that YouTube has appointed the WHO as an arbiter for what Americans can see on the platform. The WHO has sometimes been swayed by China’s Communist Party, and as recently as January it relayed Chinese assertions that there is “no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission” of the virus.

YouTube tells us in a statement that it removed the Atlas interview for “falsely stating that a certain age group cannot transmit the virus.” The company is apparently referring to Dr. Atlas’s remark, amid a discussion about school reopening, that children “do not even transmit the disease.”

That seems to have been an exaggeration for emphasis. Dr. Atlas corrected himself in his next answer, saying that transmission by children is “not impossible, but it’s less likely.” A body of research shows precisely that. An August review from the American Academy of Pediatrics cites data suggesting that “children are not significant drivers of the COVID-19 pandemic.” While children can transmit the virus, on current evidence they don’t seem to do so as readily as adults.

The Atlas interview was posted in June, yet YouTube only removed it in September. The public can be forgiven for wondering if Dr. Atlas’s appointment as a White House coronavirus adviser last month has made him a political target. A group of Stanford faculty published an open letter sliming their former colleague last week, and the video came down two days later. Does anyone think past videos of Joe Biden’s virus advisers will be taken down if a remark turns out to be incorrect?

If the virus nightmare has taught the world anything, it’s that no one has a monopoly over the right policy advice. That’s why a free society fosters debate—so that better policies can be arrived at incrementally through argument and evidence. Understanding a presidential adviser’s views is crucial to free debate and political competition. Google may take its cues from the WHO, but it is still an American company, and it shouldn’t be surprised if there is a democratic backlash to its censorship.
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Those bassards..!! Mad
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“America’s civil liberties ensure that couldn’t happen here.”

Absolutely not true. Social media is playing an ever increasing role in controlling speech. Traditional media have become propaganda bureaus.

Facebook just purchased climate change.
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Damn YouTube commie censors. Angry

Dr. Atlas advocates a herd immunity strategy.
How is Dr. Fauci and the Vaccine industrial Complex going to make any money when herd immunity is free?
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Free??? so that's what more than a million dead Americans is worth...


https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/88401
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Stop it. The constitution guarantees the government will not limit free speech, that is it. Follow the damn constitution! I dislike when any corporation censors anything, but is their absolute right to do so. Boycott them, that is your absolute right to do so.

I think political correctness, cancel culture and so much else is morally reprehensible, that is my opinion. You know what my opinion means legally? Nothing.

When I saw this I deleted my Facebook account. I am boycotting Facebook. There are so many other ways to communicate. Rant off.
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A content provider open for lawsuits now.
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It disgusts me DOC.
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Speyside wrote:
Stop it. The constitution guarantees the government will not limit free speech, that is it. Follow the damn constitution! I dislike when any corporation censors anything, but is their absolute right to do so. Boycott them, that is your absolute right to do so.

You are correct about the Constitution.
I agree that it is YouTube's right.0


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HockeyDad wrote:
“America’s civil liberties ensure that couldn’t happen here.”

Absolutely not true. Social media is playing an ever increasing role in controlling speech. Traditional media have become propaganda bureaus.

Facebook just purchased climate change.

You may have missed the point. It was a reference to government censorship, not private censorship.
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Pull their license for being subversive.
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They need to lose their protections not be charged as subversives.
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Speyside wrote:
Stop it. The constitution guarantees the government will not limit free speech, that is it. Follow the damn constitution! I dislike when any corporation censors anything, but is their absolute right to do so. Boycott them, that is your absolute right to do so.

I think political correctness, cancel culture and so much else is morally reprehensible, that is my opinion. You know what my opinion means legally? Nothing.

When I saw this I deleted my Facebook account. I am boycotting Facebook. There are so many other ways to communicate. Rant off.


I agree with you. In my opinion, the companies have their right to free speech ad well... if they are going to build policies to spite the potus... well that's their right. One thing I learned long sgo, spite ain't cheap... but if it's worth it to them... who am I to judge.
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The reason, didn't say anything about a charge.
Progressive public or private it's my way or I got the money to control your freedom. Green greed 💸. The un-amerikan way.
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Is anyone really surprised, YouTube has censored content to please China.
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it is YouTubes right to censor... however, their ties to Google create a digital monopoly... that should be dealt with...
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delta1 wrote:
Free??? so that's what more than a million dead Americans is worth...


https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/88401


What? No mention of the inflated COVID numbers, no mention of the perverse financial incentives for reporting deaths as COVID deaths that weren't? No mention of comorbidities? No mention of democide, COVID deaths directly caused by government intervention? No mention of the collateral damage and deaths caused by the authoritarian lockdowns?
Just rile up those proles with specious data so they soil their panties in a constant state of fear and willingly accept whatever the overlords demand. So this is the latest fear mongering campaign, natural immunity doesn't really exist and relying on it as a significant part of the cure will cause millions to die!!!?



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RayR wrote:
What? No mention of the inflated COVID numbers, no mention of the perverse financial incentives for reporting deaths as COVID deaths that weren't? No mention of comorbidities? No mention of democide, COVID deaths directly caused by government intervention? No mention of the collateral damage and deaths caused by the authoritarian lockdowns?
Just rile up those proles with specious data so they soil their panties in a constant state of fear and willingly accept whatever the overlords demand. So this is the latest fear mongering campaign, natural immunity doesn't really exist and relying on it as a significant part of the cure will cause millions to die!!!?





God this is a dumb post.
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victor809 wrote:
God this is a dumb post.


No where near as dumb as your response.
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Blatherskiters of codswallop.
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
it is YouTubes right to censor... however, their ties to Google create a digital monopoly... that should be dealt with...

look up Warren, Senator Elizabeth
early Spring 2020

yes, I am calm again!
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
it is YouTubes right to censor... however, their ties to Google create a digital monopoly... that should be dealt with...

I currently have no problem with that. No one is forced to use Google or YouTube. No "compelling state interest."
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I am astounded, dumbstruck, that there are actual people who think achieving herd mentality in America is a worthy goal...
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I’m astounded that we only now care about verbal flops.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I’m astounded that we only now care about verbal flops.

It was funny, that's all.
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Z's a funny guy.... Mellow
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funny how?
delta1 Offline
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smell?
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Herd mentality,liberal agenda is trying with, we're the only ones that,know it all, fantasies.🐑🐑🐑 Follow your leader,baa baa🐑🐑🐑.

Holy sheep sh*t ❄️❄️😂
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Smooth light wrote:
Herd mentality,liberal agenda is trying with, we're the only ones that,know it all, fantasies.🐑🐑🐑 Follow your leader,baa baa🐑🐑🐑.

Holy sheep sh*t ❄️❄️😂



Trump wrote that... Not talking
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delta1 wrote:
I am astounded, dumbstruck, that there are actual people who think achieving herd mentality in America is a worthy goal...


Herd mentality has is a brain eating disease. often terminal. It leads to delusions of Progressivism meaning progress, believing gubment knows best and as your mommy and daddy that would never beat you or steal your toys and candy, believing democracy ultimately reveals the collective wisdom of the people, and believing there is such a thing as a "social contract." The symptoms are to many to list.
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What about the qtards... aren't they just as delusional as the commie progressives?
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Smooth light wrote:
Herd mentality,liberal agenda is trying with, we're the only ones that,know it all, fantasies.🐑🐑🐑 Follow your leader,baa baa🐑🐑🐑.

Holy sheep sh*t ❄️❄️😂


A Nation of Sheep by Judge Andrew Napolitano. Good book, a primer on anti-sheepism from 2007. Progressive minded folks hate it because they're 🐑🐑🐑
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RayR wrote:
BAAA BAA BAAAAA BAA BA BAAAA BAAAAAAAAA

Can anyone translate this?
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bgz wrote:
What about the qtards... aren't they just as delusional as the commie progressives?


I don't follow the fringiest of the fringe conspiracy groups. I don't even know if the crackpots have any discernible intelligent thoughts whatsoever or they are just a mishmash of braindeadedness like AOC and the squad, Bernie Sanders, or Biden on the left.
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Can anyone translate this?

Good luck on that one.
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Me thinks I offended the progressive 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑.
Maybe they would like lemmings better? 🐹🐹🐹
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Where's the pied Piper?
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