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DrafterX Offline
#51 Posted:
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Exactly Al.....

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delta1 Offline
#52 Posted:
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Think
RobertHively Offline
#53 Posted:
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Exactly Al...unless it was a no knock.

How was Taylor's boyfriend supposed to know the difference between the cops busting the door down in the middle of the night to serve a warrant vs a random a home invasion?

He might not have shot if he knew it was law enforcement, then the cops might not have ended up shooting her.






frankj1 Offline
#54 Posted:
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a few nights ago my daughter's door bell buzzed a couple of times, she lives in an apartment building, but no one answered either time she asked who it was.
Later that evening someone loudly banged on her door saying he was "the police".

Turns out someone else eventually buzzed him into the building and when asked why the police were looking to come in he replied he was responding to a phone call request to the local station.

The local station said they had not dispatched anyone to her address.

Identifying as the police does not mean it is the police, especially if you know you are not suspected of illegal behavior.
DrafterX Offline
#55 Posted:
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Sounds like I might need to hang out with your daughter a few nights... Anxious
delta1 Offline
#56 Posted:
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RobertHively wrote:
Exactly Al...unless it was a no knock.

How was Taylor's boyfriend supposed to know the difference between the cops busting the door down in the middle of the night to serve a warrant vs a random a home invasion?

He might not have shot if he knew it was law enforcement, then the cops might not have ended up shooting her.








I get what you are saying. The way this went down is a big reason why "no knock warrants" are being questioned. But the cops were doing their jobs. It is not a crime for them to make mistakes in serving warrants, nor is it a crime to shoot back when shot at. It was a tragic accident that Taylor was killed.

Does the elevated risk of a citizen or a police officer getting hurt or killed due to the nature of the warrants justify the potential benefits: evidence or the apprehension of a dangerous criminal?

Many law enforcement agencies avoid the possibility of somebody getting killed trying to arrest a dangerous suspect in his home by putting the location under surveillance and taking the guy out when he leaves.

Note that one officer was fired and charged criminally, for negligently discharging his weapon in disregard for occupants of neighboring apartments. He shot through a window that was covered with blinds without a visible line of sight target.
frankj1 Offline
#57 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Sounds like I might need to hang out with your daughter a few nights... Anxious

I'll have her leave a key under the mat. She won't answer the door bell so just yell when you go in...
can't thank you enough.
DrafterX Offline
#58 Posted:
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Laugh
RobertHively Offline
#59 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
I get what you are saying. The way this went down is a big reason why "no knock warrants" are being questioned. But the cops were doing their jobs. It is not a crime for them to make mistakes in serving warrants, nor is it a crime to shoot back when shot at. It was a tragic accident that Taylor was killed.

Does the elevated risk of a citizen or a police officer getting hurt or killed due to the nature of the warrants justify the potential benefits: evidence or the apprehension of a dangerous criminal?

Many law enforcement agencies avoid the possibility of somebody getting killed trying to arrest a dangerous suspect in his home by putting the location under surveillance and taking the guy out when he leaves.

Note that one officer was fired and charged criminally, for negligently discharging his weapon in disregard for occupants of neighboring apartments. He shot through a window that was covered with blinds without a visible line of sight target.


No knock warrants should be questioned. They are a police state tactic.

If it was a no knock warrant, those officiers (or at least the one who shot her) should've been charged with involuntary manslaughter. Make an example of them.

That said, I dont think it would have stopped the riots and looting, but there would have at least been some semblance of justice for Ms. Taylors family.

All you thin blue liners out there, think about it. These cops shot this woman to death and the only charges brought were bc they shot through a window.

When the police state comes to your door unannounced, in the middle of the night, know you'll get the same treatment when they shoot your wife or daughter. "But we don't have anything to hide!" Uh huh, how much drugs did they find in Taylor's home?

You know if it was South Carolina they woulda killed the guy too and then sprinkled the drugs all over. Remember that article Gene posted? Problem solved for the cops.

End rant.

Smooth light Offline
#60 Posted:
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Knock, knock who's there,
Police,it's my night off, Kamala Harris lives on the other side of the hallway.😙
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