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zitotczito Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 1:57 PM EST
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What's new with Cuomo, the Democrat bought and paid for media's darling.

But really, causing the murder of 15,000 NH residents is just a drop in the bucket for a Democrat. I mean they murder hundreds of thousands of born and unborn babies per year.
rfenst Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 2:16 PM EST
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zitotczito wrote:
What's new with Cuomo, the Democrat bought and paid for media's darling.

But really, causing the murder of 15,000 NH residents is just a drop in the bucket for a Democrat. I mean they murder hundreds of thousands of born and unborn babies per year.

Too little too late.

"Update: DeRosa issued a statement Friday morning.

“I was explaining that when we received the DOJ inquiry, we needed to temporarily set aside the Legislature’s request to deal with the federal request first,” DeRosa said. “We informed the houses of this at the time. We were comprehensive and transparent in our responses to the DOJ, and then had to immediately focus our resources on the second wave and vaccine rollout. As I said on a call with legislators, we could not fulfill their request as quickly as anyone would have liked. But we are committed to being better partners going forward as we share the same goal of keeping New Yorkers as healthy as possible during the pandemic.”... Sick

NY Post
Mr. Jones Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 2:59 PM EST
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PAPA Cuomo is watching his two GAVONE
SPAWN ON CNN AND turning over in his grave ..
rfenst Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 3:15 PM EST
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Mr. Jones wrote:
PAPA Cuomo is watching his two GAVONE
SPAWN ON CNN AND turning over in his grave ..

Chris sometimes good makes entertainment, despite his ranting style.
RayR Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 3:18 PM EST
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Progressives are good at killing and then trying to hide it.

Andrew Cuomo’s Aide Admits NY Hid COVID-19 Nursing Home Deaths to Avoid Federal Investigation

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2021/02/11/andrew-cuomos-aide-admits-ny-hid-covid-19-nursing-home-deaths-to-avoid-federal-investigation/

"Who Cares" Cuomo's Callous Response to Nursing Home Deaths Will Send Chills Down Your Spine

https://youtu.be/NU-s1H6-OoA
delta1 Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 6:27 PM EST
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we need to have accurate data from the government at all levels...stuff like this is why misinformation and disinformation runs rampant
RayR Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 8:09 PM EST
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Demo-Nazi turncoats are calling to rescind Il Douche Andrew Cuomo’s dictatorial powers.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/new-york-democrat-state-senators-issue-statement-calling-for-cuomos-emergency-powers-to-be-stripped

Now will Dr. Faux-chi who once praised Cuomo turn on Andrew next?

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/flashback-dr-fauci-praised-gov-cuomo-as-he-lied-to-federal-authorities-about-nursing-home-victims/
DrafterX Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 8:32 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
The liberal media is why misinformation and disinformation runs rampant



True... true... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 8:59 PM EST
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Since the numbers are all overstated anyway.....

Y’all sure like playing both sides of the coin
delta1 Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 9:04 PM EST
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truthfully, this is supposed to have magically disappeared on Nov.3...


I thought OP condemned Cuomo for sending some dead people to New Hampshire...

getting some numbers wrong, and subsequently correcting them is so much more nefarious and dastardly
teedubbya Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 9:23 PM EST
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I’m not defending cuomo. I’m making fun of the numbskulls arguing both sides as convenient.
tailgater Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 9:24 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
truthfully, this is supposed to have magically disappeared on Nov.3...


I thought OP condemned Cuomo for sending some dead people to New Hampshire...

getting some numbers wrong, and subsequently correcting them is so much more nefarious and dastardly


"getting some numbers wrong"
LOL!
Delta. My friend. You are not that naive.
tailgater Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 9:24 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I’m not defending cuomo. I’m making fun of the numbskulls arguing both sides as convenient.


So this is the impeachment thread?
delta1 Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 9:38 PM EST
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nearly 500,000 COVID deaths...not important or a fake number

but 3,000 under count...heads will roll...


need consistent and transparent data gathering and reporting from all agencies, at all levels, along with the ability to audit the numbers
teedubbya Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 10:24 PM EST
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The number of deaths are extremely under reported. Always has been.
teedubbya Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 10:24 PM EST
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And the NY stuff is unacceptable.
teedubbya Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 10:26 PM EST
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So was removing the reporting through the cdc’s nhsn to a tiny cabal reporting to and through the whitehouse so the numbers could be manipulated and understated. Why not be upset about both. They are sort of the same no? Or is one acceptable the other not. Hint.... both bad.
frankj1 Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 10:26 PM EST
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yes 15
yes 16
can we now focus on beating this rather than pulling stats showing how brilliant our politics are?
teedubbya Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 10:28 PM EST
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Workin on it :)
frankj1 Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 10:28 PM EST
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not seeing you as the problem!
teedubbya Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 10:29 PM EST
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Oh I’m a problem lol
frankj1 Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 10:30 PM EST
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you're a load.
teedubbya Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Feb 12 2021, 10:40 PM EST
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I blew it
DrafterX Offline
#24 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 1:01 AM EST
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You blew a seal..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 2:05 AM EST
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The more I read about this the worse it looks. If everything I read is true about this (and I have no direct knowledge) this would make Cuomo in the same league as Trump on the subject. Don’t mistake that comment for saying Trump is anything but despicable on the subject. Wrong is wrong.
tonygraz Offline
#26 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 8:02 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
You blew a seal..?? Huh


Jealous ?
tonygraz Offline
#27 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 8:03 AM EST
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So, will all those who said covid deaths were over reported finally STFU.
RayR Offline
#28 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 8:25 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
The more I read about this the worse it looks. If everything I read is true about this (and I have no direct knowledge) this would make Cuomo in the same league as Trump on the subject. Don’t mistake that comment for saying Trump is anything but despicable on the subject. Wrong is wrong.


Don't be ridiculous, Trump is nowhere in the same league as Cuomo. Cuomo's philosophical hero is Niccolò Machiavelli. Trump probably doesn't even know who Machiavelli was.
Cuomo's callous governing style is an outgrowth of his devotion to Machiavelli, like Machiavelli, Cuomo's moral values do not greatly affect his decisions as dictatorial governor. For Cuomo the ends he dreams up in his head justifies the means, no matter how heinous those means are. Cuomo would rather be feared than respected. He is the consummate Progressive in all respects. Trump can't hold a candle to that tyrant.
Mr. Jones Offline
#29 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 6:00 PM EST
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Cuomo's spawns Are GAVONE's
Mr. Jones Offline
#30 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 6:01 PM EST
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COVID=geriatric death by numbers paintings
tailgater Offline
#31 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 6:57 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
You blew a seal..?? Huh


It's just ice cream.
tailgater Offline
#32 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 7:01 PM EST
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I wish people would stop confusing over/under reporting by mistake, and the purposeful misrepresentation of deaths because it makes Cuomo look bad.

It's disingenuous and shows lack of character.


delta1 Offline
#33 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 7:46 PM EST
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he's certainly a character...

but he at least tried to make things happen to save lives when the stuff hit the fan...some of the scenes from the worst of the pandemic in NY were horrible...

wonder how the frontline health care workers feel about him?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#34 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 7:47 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I wish people would stop confusing over/under reporting by mistake, and the purposeful misrepresentation of deaths because it makes Cuomo look bad.

It's disingenuous and shows lack of character.





Alex, I'll take Less Than Zero for 100.
teedubbya Offline
#35 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 9:41 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I wish people would stop confusing over/under reporting by mistake, and the purposeful misrepresentation of deaths because it makes Cuomo look bad.

It's disingenuous and shows lack of character.





I’m not confusing either. I’m saying both under reporting events are intentional for self serving purposes. One wasn’t a mistake and the other purposeful. Both were purposeful and disgusting. Wrong is wrong no matter who is doing it. It’s not a hard concept if you have integrity you are not willing to suspend willingly for your guy.

Data and reporting was removed from the CDC and given to a small cabal of Trump loyalists to control. Unprecedented. That data was then manipulated, misrepresented or sh1tcanned/stifled. And cuomo did similar at a smaller level (only because that’s the limit of his influence). Same day same douches.

And yes there is also under reporting that is unintentional and unavoidable. No one is talking about that. But that’s a fact. Covid deaths are way under reported. Full stop. It’s just the way it is and there really isn’t a way to 100% fix that.


Funny though. Most in here have been echoing the bunk talking point that things are over stated and over reported. Are we at least finally past that stupidity? That would be progress and folks could pretend they never believed that garbage. They could add it to the list like being so stupid they believed trump that bammy wasn’t born here. Whole lot of stupid to be exploited by don the con.
frankj1 Offline
#36 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 10:07 PM EST
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I've been wondering how many at home deaths were never tested and never counted. People who thought they had the flu or something.

how many people have been tested? Not how many tests have been done, because that would include many who have had multiple tests done.

I'd venture to say the vast majority of people have not been tested, and that makes it believable to me that it could be true that most, or at least many, covid deaths did not happen in hospitals either and so have never been counted as such.
tailgater Offline
#37 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 10:15 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I've been wondering how many at home deaths were never tested and never counted. People who thought they had the flu or something.

how many people have been tested? Not how many tests have been done, because that would include many who have had multiple tests done.

I'd venture to say the vast majority of people have not been tested, and that makes it believable to me that it could be true that most, or at least many, covid deaths did not happen in hospitals either and so have never been counted as such.


Frank.
Since last April, nobody has died of flu like symptoms without being tested. And if they weren't tested, they were counted as a Covid death anyhow.
For crying out loud. You can't get a fever without being told to quarantine. If you cough even under your mask you get death stares. You lick one door knob and people think you're contagious.
Ain't no way people are getting sick like that during a viral pandemic and thinking grammy's chicken soup is going to cure it.



teedubbya Offline
#38 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 10:15 PM EST
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Frank especially at the beginning many MANY covid deaths were not captured. Those believing the nonsense of over counting deaths have no clue. It’s all pure garbage.

And that’s just the obvious logic part not the nuance like danm has talked about where they didn’t bother to test just assumed (ie not formally diagnosed) and out of necessity sent folks home. Some of whom unfortunately died. And were found later.

Anyone who really understands this stuff knows particularly the myth of over reporting deaths is a joke believed only by the gullible or willingly stupid.
teedubbya Offline
#39 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 10:17 PM EST
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Tail you don’t have a good grasp on how the deaths are counted/classified. Or who has been tested and when.

And assuming you have it without testing is part of an undercount in terms of deaths and likely cases.

Ironically the flu numbers are predicted/extrapolated year in year out. Not actual like covid.

You are simply wrong.

Covid deaths are way underreported period. No matter how much you don’t want that to be. They just are lol. They are. I’m not even sure why folks are even talking like that other than politics. It’s a given.It just is.
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#40 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 10:20 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Frank.
Since last April, nobody has died of flu like symptoms without being tested. And if they weren't tested, they were counted as a Covid death anyhow.
For crying out loud. You can't get a fever without being told to quarantine. If you cough even under your mask you get death stares. You lick one door knob and people think you're contagious.
Ain't no way people are getting sick like that during a viral pandemic and thinking grammy's chicken soup is going to cure it.




yeah, I think you are way off what has happened.
teedubbya Offline
#41 Posted: Sat, Feb 13 2021, 10:27 PM EST
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There are some issues in life we all know really well due to what we do day in day out. I just simply can not take the over reporting crowd serious enough to even argue with them. It’s just silly to anyone with knowledge.

I’m pretty sure trump didn’t win 2020 in a land slide. I am CERTAIN covid deaths are not over reported (I know whe can find an instance where they were so they must be across the board *rolling eyes*.

It’s not even a worthy discussion. It’s a non starter.
RayR Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
There are some issues in life we all know really well due to what we do day in day out. I just simply can not take the over reporting crowd serious enough to even argue with them. It’s just silly to anyone with knowledge.

I’m pretty sure trump didn’t win 2020 in a land slide. I am CERTAIN covid deaths are not over reported (I know whe can find an instance where they were so they must be across the board *rolling eyes*.

It’s not even a worthy discussion. It’s a non starter.


You keep it up, I mean pretending to be the authority on having knowledge. Your masters will be pleased.Frying pan
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#43 Posted: Sun, Feb 14 2021, 11:11 PM EST
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http://www.cigarbid.com/...m/c/posts/662384/100000

Just saying.......

And it’s nice to see that his aid apologized. To DNC folks for the political fallout. Not to the people he played a DIRECT role in killing. I will repeat. Had Trump taken THIS direct of an action it would not have been buried by the press like it had been by the MSM. And then maybe our enlightened folks here would have believed it. Cuz ya know, science n stuff Mellow
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#44 Posted: Mon, Feb 15 2021, 12:12 AM EST
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I still don’t get that other thread.

Cuomo wrong.
Trump wrong.

What am I missing?
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#45 Posted: Mon, Feb 15 2021, 2:03 AM EST
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Control of narrative.....honesty......
ZRX1200 Offline
#46 Posted: Mon, Feb 15 2021, 2:03 AM EST
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I should make it clear, you aren’t missing honesty hope you don’t read that wrong.
teedubbya Offline
#47 Posted: Mon, Feb 15 2021, 11:49 AM EST
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Didn’t read it that way.

I see media from all sides so I do t see the victim part I guess. What trump did was larger scale (only because it could be) and some media is outraged some supports him heavily.

Cuomos team is unforgivable in my opinion assuming what I’m hearing is true. I have more direct view of trumps shameful actions.

Some press is outraged and we are talking about it. Other press is more silent.

No argument there. At all.

Both are bad. One doesn’t make the other better or worse.
teedubbya Offline
#48 Posted: Mon, Feb 15 2021, 11:51 AM EST
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Cuomos team and cuomo are the same to me. Not an attempt to dilute things.
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#49 Posted: Mon, Feb 15 2021, 11:57 AM EST
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I have no problem letting Cheeto have blame my major issue is the control of narrative and also the layers of fault. Where there’s DIRECT action/result should garner the most outrage. This incident with Cuomo was cut/dry BEFORE it came out they covered up numbers and lied.
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#50 Posted: Mon, Feb 15 2021, 2:26 PM EST
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I don’t see the distinction but it’s not really disagreement. Both wrong, both direct damage, both heavily reported although at a different rate depending on which stream you choose.

Both should be ashamed, I bet neither is.
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