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Rep. Gates vs now former DOJ employee
ZRX1200 Offline
#51 Posted:
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Appears, rumored?

Al I dunno man, but him making that charge publicly and asking the FBI to make tapes available?

This is weird.

Has anyone here said he’s above reproach?
frankj1 Offline
#52 Posted:
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nope. just that he's not a Dem...

been meaning to ask since the op, but rather than the NYT leaked the story, wasn't the story leaked TO them and they printed it?
delta1 Offline
#53 Posted:
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Weiner, Franken, Hill, all Dems, were cut loose for much less than this...



if Gaetz has any evidence that an extortion attempt is connected to this investigation one would think he would make it public...
rfenst Offline
#54 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
Weiner, Franken, Hill, all Dems, were cut loose for much less than this...



if Gaetz has any evidence that an extortion attempt is connected to this investigation one would think he would make it public...

Meh. I think his only duty is to turn the matter over to the authorities. If it's true, we'll learn about the details. If it's not and concocted, we'll know that too.
ZRX1200 Offline
#55 Posted:
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Al let me ask you something, and this is key to my interest (not the Rep) what if he’s telling the truth and the authorities fail to act in good faith. If Matt is lying or guilty of the allegations (not charges) I hope he burns. If he’s telling the truth even if so just in regards to the former DOJ employee that’s another part of the same thing that keyed my interest.

Wiener was busted red handed......then again on his wife’s (I mean Hilldog’s scissor side piece) laptop.

Franken? He’s an **** and I think his case was overblown.

Hill? Never heard of her.
rfenst Offline
#56 Posted:
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Report: Feds look into Gaetz Bahamas trip
Orlando Sentinel

Federal investigators are probing a trip to the Bahamas that U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz allegedly took with former Orlando International Airport board appointee Jason Pirozzolo as part of a probe into potential sex-trafficking violations, CBS News reported Wednesday evening.

Citing “multiple” unnamed sources, CBS reported that investigators are probing a Bahamian trip Gaetz, a Republican from the Panhandle, took with Pirozzolo, an Orlando hand doctor and medical marijuana investor who allegedly paid for travel expenses, accommodations and female escorts.

“Investigators are trying to determine if the escorts were illegally trafficked across state or international lines for the purpose of sex with the congressman,” CBS News reported.

CBS News said Pirozzolo did not respond to repeated attempts to contact him, nor did he immediately respond to an email from the Orlando Sentinel or attempts to reach him by phone. The U.S. Department of Justice declined to comment to CBS.

Gaetz, one of the most prominent figures in Florida politics, has been the center of a national firestorm since reports last week that he is under investigation over allegations that he had sex with a 17-year-old girl and that he and former Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Greenberg recruited women online and paid them for sex.

CBS said a spokesman for Gaetz provided a statement that said: “Rep. Gaetz has never paid for sex, nor has he had sex with an underage girl. What began with blaring headlines about ‘sex trafficking’ has now turned into a general fishing exercise about vacations and consensual relationships with adults. Yesterday, we even learned of some nonsense ‘pardon’ story that turned out to be false, and today it’s just more euphemism. It’s interesting to watch the Washington wheels grinding so hard every time one of their falsehoods gets knocked down.”

Gaetz and Pirozzolo know each other well.

After Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was elected in November 2018, Gaetz recommended Pirozzolo for an appointment as the state’s surgeon general.

In 2019, responding to Orlando Sentinel questions about Pirozzolo, Gaetz said, “Dr. Pirozzolo served on the health care transition team. I asked him to make transition recommendations for the Department of Health and to interview for the position of Surgeon General, which he did.”

Pirozzolo didn’t get that appointment, which Pirozzolo said at the time was due to the potential for conflicts of interest.
“Luckily, the DeSantis team made the decision easy for me and due to the fact that I was heavily involved with the medical marijuana industry and had multiple businesses in medical marijuana — and the SG [surgeon general] and DOH [department of health] run the medical marijuana industry here in Florida, that even if I divested entirely that would be an insurmountable conflict of interest,” Pirozzolo told the Sentinel in an email in 2019.

Gaetz then recommended Pirozzolo for an appointment to the governing board of the Greater Orlando Aviation Authority, which runs Orlando International Airport — and DeSantis obliged.

Once on the board, Gaetz, Pirozzolo and another DeSantis appointee that Gaetz recommended were part of an attempt to oust the airport’s longtime general counsel and replace him with new attorneys who would have been given unadvertised, no-bid contracts.
teedubbya Offline
#57 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Al let me ask you something, and this is key to my interest (not the Rep) what if he’s telling the truth and the authorities fail to act in good faith. If Matt is lying or guilty of the allegations (not charges) I hope he burns. If he’s telling the truth even if so just in regards to the former DOJ employee that’s another part of the same thing that keyed my interest.

Wiener was busted red handed......then again on his wife’s (I mean Hilldog’s scissor side piece) laptop.

Franken? He’s an **** and I think his case was overblown.

Hill? Never heard of her.



It also swings both ways. What if he is throwing out garbage as he has consistently done in the past. The answer is to follow it through and let it play out. Both angles. But some want to focus on one more than the other. Focus on both.

It is possible there is more than one lane of wrong doing. If so follow and punish both. One doesn't absolve the other. It is possible there is only one lane of wrong doing and one victim. Play that out as well. No wrong doing at all? cool. Play it out and recognize that.

This forum alone shows our complete inability to not simply fall in to our tribal areas and dig in. Objectivity is shunned.... and of course data, fact, and experience. All that is bad stuff. When did we race to the bottom?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#58 Posted:
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Stop personalizing it all.

You're doing a terrible job of stating what others have already said...and better!
teedubbya Offline
#59 Posted:
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personalizing? so strange.
HockeyDad Offline
#60 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:


This forum alone shows our complete inability to not simply fall in to our tribal areas and dig in. Objectivity is shunned.... and of course data, fact, and experience. All that is bad stuff. When did we race to the bottom?


#resistteedubbya #notbmyteedubbya #impeachteedubbya
teedubbya Offline
#61 Posted:
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I'm sorry
DrMaddVibe Offline
#62 Posted:
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Look, I'll even ask again. Where is this source you derive from?

You profess to have all of the knowledge of Covid19 and it's multiple variants and want to save Mankind. Me, not so much you bemoan. So, what do you do...you horde onto it and put up broken links or the same one over and over and over. Do you think that makes you appear intelligent or elevated in some twisted manner? I don't. If you want to scream "The sky is falling" every 10 seconds...be my guest. It's my curse in Life to state that the "Emperor isn't wearing any clothes". Sometimes its a blessing. More often its a curse. I show everyone here with verifiable links where I get my information from. You go out of your way to besmirch or beguile your way around the differing opinions of others like a fart in an elevator. Nobody wanted what you're peddling after they see what you have. "It's for my important work!!!", "It's Top Secret", "Why, if I showed you they'd kill me and my family!" and the personal fave "If you knew what I know!" line. I've been around my share of salespeople to understand what it is you're doing. The better ones get people on the hook. You need to come up with some new material.

To date, your personal idol Dr. Fauci has been proven to be a huckster, a fraud and a liar. Writing children's books now even? Tsk tsk tsk...that's how low he's reached for the money. You, still hold the water for him. Same for WHO and the CDC. They've been exposed as liars, swindlers and con men. With all of that you still go from post to post and do your Henny Penny bit. =d> =d> =d>

Tell me where is fancy bred, or in the heart or in the head? How begot, how nourished? Reply, reply. It is engender’d in the eyes, with gazing fed; and fancy dies. In the cradle, where it lies. Let us all ring fancy’s knell; I’ll begin it – Ding, dong, bell.
teedubbya Offline
#63 Posted:
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LOL
ZRX1200 Offline
#64 Posted:
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Teedubya is just trying to get Faucci to go to prom with him.......

Yeah I thought it was clear his charges are huge, which in turn, would make them outlandish lies if untrue.
teedubbya Offline
#65 Posted:
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I get it Z. I'm not saying you will not look at things globally. Just talking in general. We all want to focus from our own angle but most will not focus from all angles.

As for Faucci, if he tried to blackmail Gaetz dad he should be punished no matter how much good he has done. You can't rest on your laurels as a get out of jail free card.
delta1 Offline
#66 Posted:
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yes, anybody who tries to extort a public official, regardless of that public official's misconduct, should be held accountable...


drain the swamp...but if that was just a distraction, Gaetz should also be held accountable for making false allegations...defamation suit?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#67 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
yes, anybody who tries to extort a public official, regardless of that public official's misconduct, should be held accountable...


drain the swamp...but if that was just a distraction, Gaetz should also be held accountable for making false allegations...defamation suit?



Wouldn't that be the crux of reporting facts I've been talking about?
ZRX1200 Offline
#68 Posted:
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Drain the swamp wasn’t a distraction.

Administrative law is a real thing that’s been abused going on 2 decades.......IMO a public employee using their position to extort someone is extraordinary (IF TRUE....apparently that must be stated) and is an even bigger sin as it’s ALSO abusing a position not just information.

If he’s lying about the extortion the same holds true in kind (I have to type this too???)
Speyside Offline
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Even if prosecuted he is innocent until proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt. This holds true for all Americans.
rfenst Offline
#70 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Even if prosecuted he is innocent until proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt. This holds true for all Americans.

Criminal conviction requires proof "beyond a reasonable doubt."
The right to serve in Congress, in my mind, requires very high standards of behavior, past and present.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Now are you beginning to see why I'm clamoring for facts? Instead what do the media give us..."Unnamed sources", "Alleged incidents" and "assumed/presumed stories". That's not reporting. That's gossip. That's innuendo. That's a rumor.

As an institution that's shielded by the sanctity of the Constitution you would think they would take that serious. It's a power grab, a political favor or a promotion to them. We're talking about playing fast and loose with the 1st Amendment, the 6th, the 7th and I can make a case for even the 9th Amendments. Now does anyone see how damaging the media is? What they're doing is wrong. It needs to be stopped.
rfenst Offline
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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/the-even-weirder-backstory-behind-the-bizarre-gaetz-sex-trafficking-investigation-story-109411909553
DrMaddVibe Offline
#73 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/the-even-weirder-backstory-behind-the-bizarre-gaetz-sex-trafficking-investigation-story-109411909553



Ok, I watched. I cringed. I LOL'd. I recalled why I really don't like her...at all.

She is EXACTLY what I wrote about in my previous post.

When an article starts out with "Let's start where I think the story starts...", not the facts is it? From there she goes into full innuendo mode...even ties him to Trump...Because.

I've seen better reporting on local High School channels that what she tossed in. She's the highest rated MSDNC show? Laughing...making faces...trying to crack jokes both verbally and visually. She's like the best news anchor that "Idiocracy" would've created. Thanks but no thanks. She can't even finish a complete sentence!
rfenst Offline
#74 Posted:
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I refuse to watch her. If I have to have the "news" on at that time slot for my wife, Cooper and Cuomo are much more entertaining performers.
ZRX1200 Offline
#75 Posted:
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I saw her tits once Mellow
rfenst Offline
#76 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I saw her tits once Mellow

Sick
tonygraz Offline
#77 Posted:
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Drafter will be jealous.
CelticBomber Offline
#78 Posted:
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UHOH.... What is it with young people these days... either they video their crime or leave a digital trail my dead great grandparents could follow
Abrignac Offline
#79 Posted:
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CelticBomber wrote:
UHOH.... What is it with young people these days... either they video their crime or leave a digital trail my dead great grandparents could follow


Exactly!
Burner02 Offline
#80 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I saw her tits once Mellow



Who would want to?
CelticBomber Offline
#81 Posted:
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Awful quiet round here....
MACS Offline
#82 Posted:
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Sooooo what's the deal? Did he sex traffic chicks or what? I don't watch the news and I haven't bothered with a search, as it'll all come up negative, no matter what.

If he did... go directly to jail, ya scum suckin' f---bag. If he did not... will the media run that story as much as they have the smear campaign before he's even charged or tried?

Rhetorical question, of course they won't.
rfenst Offline
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Not good for Matt Gaetz

WAPO

For the past week-plus, it has been clear that Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) is not in a good spot.

After a New York Times report about a Justice Department investigation into Gaetz’s alleged relationship with an underage girl, Gaetz came out and alleged an extortion plot against him. Except even being extorted — if that were actually the case — doesn’t mean you didn’t commit a crime. Gaetz then participated in a bizarre Fox News interview in which he seemed to take pains to include host Tucker Carlson in his problems. Carlson pushed back. Since then, Gaetz has kept a lower profile. Most recently, another Times report said Gaetz had sought a blanket pardon from President Donald Trump before he left office — well before it was known that Gaetz had knowledge of such allegations.

On Thursday, though, came more significantly bad news: A Gaetz associate in the Florida Republican Party — whose legal prosecution led investigators to the congressman — might be about to cop a plea.

A Florida politician at the center of an investigation into Rep. Matt Gaetz is negotiating with federal prosecutors to resolve his own sex-trafficking and other charges, a potentially ominous sign for Gaetz if his associate decides to cooperate in a bid for leniency.

Joel Greenberg, the former tax collector for Seminole County, Fla., was initially charged last summer in a bare-bones indictment that prosecutors have since superseded, adding charges of sex trafficking of a minor, stealing from the tax office and even trying to use fraud to get coronavirus relief money while out on bond. In the course of the investigation into his conduct, people familiar with the matter have said, federal authorities came across evidence that Gaetz (R-Fla.) might have committed a crime and launched a separate investigation into him.

At a status conference in Greenberg’s case on Thursday, federal prosecutor Roger Handberg told a judge that he expected a plea, though negotiations are ongoing. Fritz Scheller, an attorney for Greenberg, asked the judge to set a deadline of May 15 for the two sides to either reach a deal or move toward a trial in the summer.
Perhaps even more ominous for Gaetz were the comments of Greenberg’s lawyer.

“I’m sure Matt Gaetz is not feeling very comfortable today, all right?” Fritz Scheller said. When asked whether Greenberg had introduced Gaetz to underage girls for sex, Scheller admitted he was going to ignore the question.

This is a very important point, and it shouldn’t be discounted: Both exchanges were awkward. In neither did Scheller look like he was necessarily trying to plant a seed. He could have simply stumbled into both of them. It wasn’t a terribly confidence-inspiring display from a lawyer, as the above video and link show.

But he also did little to downplay the idea that his client might cut a plea deal that could harm Gaetz — at a time when he absolutely had to know that any such comments would be interpreted as such. It’s not clear how much wisdom might be behind any effort to preview such a deal, even if that was his intent, but he, at the very least, didn’t dispute it. And he did so while representing a client who faces significantly more legal jeopardy than Gaetz appears to.

The substance of the allegations against both men is key now. Each case involves alleged sex trafficking of a minor — a crime that carries inordinate scorn relative to other crimes and even relative to its potential prison sentence.

And aside from all of that, the fact that a high-profile associate of less significant political stature than Gaetz — and whose alleged crimes are allegedly related — could be cutting a deal is significant. Whether Greenberg is deliberately throwing his ally under the bus or not, he knows plenty that is of interest to investigators in the Gaetz case. A deal means he has to talk.

It could be that Greenberg’s lawyer bungled the whole news conference. It could also be that his potential plea deal is merely aimed at watering down the charges against him and avoiding a trial. And as the Russia investigation and the deals cut by Trump allies therein showed, cooperating doesn’t necessarily spell doom for the emerging target of the investigation.

At the same time, this is a criminal probe — rather than a public report involving a president who can’t be indicted — and prosecutors will make sure the evidence is significant, if that’s part of the deal. Greenberg also has plenty on the line, and helping the Gaetz investigation is clearly in his interest.

And if you’re Gaetz, it’s hardly a welcome sign.

Update: After this piece posted Thursday, we got the latest reminder of how Greenberg could be a liability for Gaetz. The Daily Beast reports that Gaetz sent $900 to Greenberg via Venmo, at which point Greenberg then sent three young women various sums of money totaling $900. A woman whose nickname Gaetz used in describing what the money was for was 18.
MACS Offline
#84 Posted:
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Like I said, if they charge him and convict him of sex with a minor or sex trafficking or whatever... he's a POS and will deserve what he gets.

Sure looks bad, but I seem to recall the media running with a story about some catholic kids and an Indian that was flat-out lies and the kid got paid. You'll pardon me if I am skeptical of "media reports" especially from NYT and WAPO.

Edit: Did the search... all negative stuff and they added his "ties to Trump" for good measure. Pretty predictable.

Don't read into what I am saying. I'm not defending the guy. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. What I am saying is that I don't trust the "media" one f---ing bit. And of course they have to add their own spin on it with the "ties to Trump" sh*t. Dude has been out of office and headlines for 3 months... let it go.
Mr. Jones Offline
#85 Posted:
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That #24 post by RFENST

IS PRETTY DAMNING...not sure if it would hold up in court though...lots of hearsay...but it is a "rough & damning story"
Speyside Offline
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The court of public opinion has no value. This will play out and whatever the end result is will be what counts.
rfenst Offline
#87 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
That #24 post by RFENST

IS PRETTY DAMNING...not sure if it would hold up in court though...lots of hearsay...but it is a "rough & damning story"

The hearsay rule has around 30 exceptions. If you know what you are doing, you can get almost anything into evidence at trial.

Greenberg is a very dangerous, out-of-control, local character who has been in deep trouble even before Gaetz came along. I know his father. Used to play basketball with him twice weekly for years. He is wealthy from the 100 or so dental offices he owns. The kid is a spoiled, mentally ill loser. I feel bad for his dad.

Greenberg now has 33 serious federal felony charges. He is rolling over on Gaetz to try to save his own @ss. I live in Seminole County where Greenberg was the supervisor of elections. Local paper has uber great interviews of people in the know of Gaetz and Greenberg's local antics.
rfenst Offline
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Gaetz speaks at pro-Trump women’s group event in Doral

Orlando Sentinel

U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz, embroiled in scandal after it was reported recently he had been targeted by federal sex-trafficking investigation, continued to dismiss the accusations as “smears” and said he’s “not going anywhere” Friday, during an event with a conservative women’s group in Doral.

The Panhandle congressman said he has the support of other Republicans, including former President Donald Trump, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia and Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio.

“This past week has been full of encouragement,” Gaetz said at Trump National Doral during a dinner event organized by Women for America First, which was largely responsible for organizing the rally that preceded a deadly attack on the U.S. Capitol in January.

Gaetz, who is under investigation by the U.S. Justice Department for allegations he had sex with a 17-year-old, was billed as the keynote speaker for the four-day “Save America Summit,” where Taylor Greene was expected to speak on Saturday.
The department’s investigation into Gaetz reportedly emerged from a probe into former Seminole County Tax Collector Joel Greenberg, who is facing 33 federal charges, including child sex trafficking and fraud.

On Thursday, Greenberg’s attorney said he will likely agree to a plea deal, which spurred speculation he could provide information about Gaetz to prosecutors, who are examining whether Gaetz and Greenberg paid underage girls or offered them gifts in exchange for sex, according to a report by the New York Times.

Gaetz has denied the allegations, saying a former Air Force intelligence officer tried to extort his father, former Florida Senate President Don Gaetz.

The Congressman wrote in an op-ed published Monday in the Washington Examiner he is “absolutely not resigning.” He seemed to repeat that vow in his remarks on Friday.

“I’m built for the battle and I’m not going anywhere,” Gaetz said. “The smears against me range from distortions of my personal life, to wild, and I mean, wild, conspiracy theories.”

But the pressure on Gaetz intensified on Friday, as the House Ethics Committee said it has opened an investigation into reports of sexual and other misconduct by the Florida Republican.

“The committee is aware of public allegations that Representative Matt Gaetz may have engaged in sexual misconduct and/or illicit drug use, shared inappropriate images or videos on the House floor, misused state identification records, converted campaign funds to personal use, and/or accepted a bribe, improper gratuity, or impermissible gift, in violation of House Rules, laws, or other standards of conduct,” said Chairman Rep. Ted Deutsch, D-Fla., and ranking Republican Rep. Jackie Walorski of Indiana in a statement.

Gaetz started his 17-minute speech by declaring, “my amazing fiancée Ginger, I love you with all my heart and I can assure you, the best is indeed yet to come.”

In addition to dismissing the allegations against him, he praised several women in his life, including his mother and district director. He also repeated several popular GOP talking points, including debunked claims about a “stolen” presidential election.

Gaetz’s remarks received a standing ovation from a group of a few dozen people who gathered at the outdoor event.
Bettina Langlais of Parker, Texas, said she thinks Gaetz is being targeted by Democrats who anticipate he will one day run for president.

“This guy’s being framed being framed for something where there’s really no proof,” said Langlais, 58.
Others agreed, dismissing the accusations against Gaetz as false.

“I love him and I do believe what he is saying,” said Monika Page, 71. “I believe what the media is accusing him of is fake.”
Mr. Jones Offline
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I think "Betty Langlais of Parker Texas...is correct"

The D.N.C. WANTS TO NIP THIS DUDE IN THE BUD....

NIP IT

NIP IT GOOD...

THE D.N.C. IS REALLY AFRAID OF HIS INTELLIGENCE AND HIS ON CAMERA CHARISMA...THE GUY CAN REALLY GIVE A GOOD SPEACH ..

I JUST PERSONNALLY KNOW "IN SPADES" WHAT IT IS LIKE WHEN THE D.E.E.P. STATE WANTS YOU DEAD NO MATTER WHAT...I LIVED IT FOR 6+ YEARS AND 9+ MURDER ATTEMPTS ON MY LIFE BY THE FBI-SSG DIVISION...

I'M SURPRISED OBAMA HASN'T INSTRUCTED COOL UNCLE JOE STRANOSA TO PUT A 200 PERSON FBI-SSG ADVANCE TEAM ON GAETZ's sorry ass...he would fold in a minute if they did to him what they did to me...he wouldn't last 3 months ... They would send him to the PSYCH WARD OR HE'D BUST A CAP IN HIS OWN NOGGIN...

THATS way to news worthy though...a fake heart attack drug dose in his brita water jug at home or a drugged drink at a bar and the ensuing FATAL car crash accident would be more explainable and preferable to the DEEP STATE.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#90 Posted:
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Just putting this here...


https://thenationalpulse.com/news/cnn-faked-a-story-about-matt-gaetz-but-still-wont-remove-it/


It talks about what bothers me the most about MSM and what they do and get away with DAILY.
rfenst Offline
#91 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Just putting this here...


https://thenationalpulse.com/news/cnn-faked-a-story-about-matt-gaetz-but-still-wont-remove-it/


It talks about what bothers me the most about MSM and what they do and get away with DAILY.

CNN news is biased and dishonest? I never knew.Sarcasm
However, it's night-time line-up can be very entertaining to me.
rfenst Offline
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Bombshell Letter: Gaetz Paid for Sex With Minor, Wingman Says

The Daily Beast has obtained a confession letter that Joel Greenberg wrote after asking Roger Stone to help him obtain a pardon...


https://www.thedailybeast.com/joel-greenberg-letter-written-for-roger-stone-says-matt-gaetz-paid-for-sex-with-minor?ref=scroll
DrMaddVibe Offline
#93 Posted:
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Signed,

Epstein's Mom
rfenst Offline
#94 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Signed,

Epstein's Mom


Wait! The Greenberg saga/angle gets even better...

"According to a recently filed complaint, Greenberg took more than $400,000 in COVID PPP loans and used the cash to buy Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan memorabilia, not to mention purchasing crypto-currency and other things, according to a Scribd posting."

This is only some of what he pulled off while out of jail on federal bail with home confinement...
I am ashamed to say I have been a resident of Seminole County for 40 years.
Sick


DrMaddVibe Offline
#95 Posted:
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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/joel-greenberg-matt-gaetz-brian-beute-1170370/

A history of lying....Think
Mr. Jones Offline
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Gaetz is t.o.a.s.t. now that the FBI HAS FLIPPED HIS OLD GIRLFRIEND INTO TESTIFYING AGAINST HIM...

HE'S DONE FOR BECAUSE OF "another FBI RAT TURNCOAT" turning stated evidence for immunity....the FBI can't make a case on anybody lately with paying them $$$ or threatening jail time then offering immunity...
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Matt Gaetz Exonerated from 'Pile of Lies' After Man Charged with Extortion



Florida Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz has been exonerated after 62-year-old Stephen Alford was recently indicted by the Department of Justice for extortion.

"Stephen M. Alford did knowingly and willfully devise, and intent to devise, a scheme to defraud and for obtaining money and property by means of material false and fraudulent pretenses, representations, and promises, and for the promise of executing such scheme, did cause, and attempt to cause, a wire communication to be transmitted in interstate commerce," the indictment states.

Earlier this year, Gaetz was adamant Alford was making false allegations of sexual misconduct against him in order to extort money from his successful and wealthy family.

Back in March when news broke that the Department of Justice was investigating Gaetz for sexual misconduct, the congressman maintained he was being extorted.

"The allegations of sexual misconduct against me are false," Gaetz told Axios at the time. "They are rooted in an extortion effort against my family for $25 million."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/09/01/matt-gaetz-exonerated-after-man-charged-with-extortion-n2595102?



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Dominoes a fallin' in the DNC blame game agenda! Also, another blackeye for the DNC's SS Division...the FBI!
MACS Offline
#98 Posted:
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See what I mean??

Smear campaign by the media... they ran with bullsh-t, never even wondering for a second if it was true. They didn't care, it was a republican, so run with it!
rfenst Offline
#99 Posted:
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Hey, Gaetz is toast. There is strong physical evidence (text messages and the payment of funds transferred electronically and both /witness victim testimony to convict him. Consider him "gone."
frankj1 Offline
#100 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Hey, Gaetz is toast. There is strong physical evidence (text messages and the payment of funds transferred electronically and both /witness victim testimony to convict him. Consider him "gone."

isn't "exonerated" a legal term ultimately meaning he is innocent of charges and has had charges dropped?
How is it meant/used in the link then?

I understand and am not surprised to read about Alford but yeah, I never heard anything so far to contradict the links to payments/funds transfers/victims etc.
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