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Still Believe the FBI Is Some Honorable Institution?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#51 Posted:
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Just like Whitey...

https://magazine.atavist.com/the-snitch-fbi-scott-kimball-informant-killer-colorado/?utm_source=pocket-newtab
bgz Offline
#52 Posted:
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How the hell you find that site... (not reading it...)

In Trumps world, law enforcement is bad now unless you're a street grunt... in which case you're allowed to murder minorities and other undesirables... which is good.

So with that T narrative, I have to assume DMV posted something of the lines " FBI BAD!".

Someone please let me know if I'm wrong... thanks.
teedubbya Offline
#53 Posted:
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I am sort of confused when the cops or the military are good and when they are bad. It seems to depend on how it fits each sides agenda.
bgz Offline
#54 Posted:
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Right, for conservatives they used to be mostly good... Trump moved everyone left.

I blame Canada.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#55 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
How the hell you find that site... (not reading it...)

In Trumps world, law enforcement is bad now unless you're a street grunt... in which case you're allowed to murder minorities and other undesirables... which is good.

So with that T narrative, I have to assume DMV posted something of the lines " FBI BAD!".

Someone please let me know if I'm wrong... thanks.



Not reading it...because you lack the capacity to decipher the words making sentences which make paragraphs that infor the reader. Got it. Everyone else does too. I didn't post it for you nor our Forum's Fauci Footstool. Don't like to read...DON'T.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
I am sort of confused



There. Now what you posted makes sense.
bgz Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Not reading it...because you lack the capacity to decipher the words making sentences which make paragraphs that infor the reader. Got it. Everyone else does too. I didn't post it for you nor our Forum's Fauci Footstool. Don't like to read...DON'T.


Everyone knows my vocabulary is bigger than yours... just stop. You're making yourself look more retarded than you already are.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#58 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
Everyone knows my vocabulary is bigger than yours... just stop. You're making yourself look more retarded than you already are.



Riiight.

You hold that though Big Reader.
bgz Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Riiight.

You hold that though Big Reader.


Thank you for supporting my position.

DrMaddVibe Offline
#60 Posted:
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https://twitter.com/lawyer4laws/status/1404985852078473220

What did they know?

bgz Offline
#61 Posted:
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That is interesting.

Story sounds less like big cover up and more like Machiavelli.

teedubbya Offline
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The story was interesting as presented. And the attorney for the security guard (Joiner) sure was damning. Very interesting.

Interesting enough that my mind went directly to WTF was the FBI doing and why? This is damning. Finally a legitimate arrow at the FBI. I was ready to thank DMV for the story. Fascinating.

But then my mind went to why did the video abruptly stop mid story (almost mid sentence, not quite, but it was awkwardly abrupt) rather than continue when it was pretty clear there was more in the newscast. Its as if there was more someone didn't want us to hear. Did the government cut it short because it was so damning. Censor the fox reporting? Or was it a twitter limitation. But what an odd amount of time to allow. It was at a very odd timestamp.

Then my mind went to wait.... this was 4 years or more ago.... why would there not be more info in that time and why would this be a breaking thing in the twitterverse in 2021. It was in the open (fox news) and we have other branches of government other than this one that was under the Trump administration (I think... didn't check). What about congress or the courts? Now I'm getting really mad. Defcon Mad at our lousy system of government and our lousy country. There was a Christian reverend that said god damn the united states (or America..cant recall) and that pizzed me off. We still talk about it when we talk about his influence on Bammy (in between claiming Bammy is a Muslim) But if this stuff is true does he have a point?

But then I thought....Hmmm I wonder if folks are being played for some agenda. Simple folks that won't look more and will just run with the questions.... always the questions.....questions.... just asking questions...not sayin...just askin

It's all so confusing.

Turns out there is more info. The security guards case was dismissed. Congress looked at it too. I have no doubt due to the nature of the FBI they do some unsavory things and definitely need a check. But I also have no issue with them infiltrating extremist groups. Its sort of their job. Bang the drum.

Here is the dismissal. Twitter is a great source of entertainment just not news. Highly manipulated. And I wonder why. Who would want to weaken our institutions through fueling distrust? And what rubes willingly fall for it? Then I thought most people don't have the 2 minutes it took to look deeper so I thought I'd help.

https://casetext.com/case/joiner-v-united-states-11

You are welcome.
bgz Offline
#63 Posted:
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Damn.... TW actually read and set the record straight... coulda had a thread here lol.
teedubbya Offline
#64 Posted:
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nah.... its still a thing... you know a thing
bgz Offline
#65 Posted:
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Ya... I get it... good devil bad devil. What shoulder you want?
Speyside Offline
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Tdub, I found the same information but wasn't interest in correcting anything. I DGAF about self adgendizing posts that only look to create agreement with their POV. Other than my own of course.
teedubbya Offline
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But it's still a thing right? You know a thing?
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Valid points in this article that dares to even talk about this at the forefront and the ostriches here that want to bury their heads in the sand and believe it's not happening...the usual mouth breathers. Everyone sees you for what you are.

The questions raised by the Revolver News reporting, which none of these smug FBI defenders and guardians of the liberal consensus can answer, remain:

How is it remotely credible that the FBI did not have informants in these three groups that they have been identifying as major threats for years, especially given the reporting that the leader of the Proud Boys — conveniently arrested the day before January 6 — was an FBI informant in the past, along with the confirmed reporting that the FBI had multiple informants in the Michigan Three Percenters case?

Why are low-level protesters being charged with major crimes while the alleged organizers of this riot and the leaders of these groups have not been?

Why are enormous amounts of video surveillance footage from January 6 still being concealed?

What happened to the alleged planting of pipe bombs near the Capitol?

Why did the FBI not take more aggressive action given the once-denied but now-confirmed fact that the social media platform Parler sent the FBI advanced warnings of specific plots to use violence at the Capitol?




If the FBI had advanced knowledge of what was being plotted yet did nothing to stop the attack, it raises numerous possibilities about why that is. It could be that they just had yet another “intelligence failure” of the kind that they claimed caused them to miss the 9/11 attack and therefore need massive new surveillance authorities, budget increases, and new Patriot-Act-type laws to fix it. It could be that they allowed the riot to happen because they did not take it seriously enough or because some of them supported the cause behind it, or because they realized that there would be benefits to the security state if it happened. Or it could be that they were using those operatives under their control to plot with, direct, and drive the attack -- as they have done so many times in the past — and allowed it to happen out of either negligence or intent.


Nobody is claiming to know the answers to those questions, including Revolver News, Carlson, or anyone else. Instead, they are doing the work of actual journalists — pointing out the gaping holes in the public record about what we do and do not know about an event that is being exploited to launch a new domestic War on Terror, prompt massive new police and security state spending, and empower and justify new domestic surveillance and censorship authorities. Anyone not asking these questions or, worse, trying to delegitmize them, is a propagandist and has no business calling themselves a journalist.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/questions-about-fbis-role-16-are-mocked-because-fbi-shapes-liberal-corporate-media
bgz Offline
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Lol, all I got out of that whole piece was parler ratted out the Q-Tards...


Hahahahahahahahaha
Speyside Offline
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Up to the inauguration Barr ran the DOJ. That is why no reasonable actions were taken during that whole time frame. It all was his call. It is interesting that even Parlor knows how dangerous the situation was. Qtards rule!!!
DrMaddVibe Offline
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bgz wrote:
Lol, all I got out of that whole piece was parler ratted out the Q-Tards...


Hahahahahahahahaha



That's because you lack critical thinking skills.


DrMaddVibe Offline
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Speyside wrote:
Up to the inauguration Barr ran the DOJ. That is why no reasonable actions were taken during that whole time frame. It all was his call. It is interesting that even Parlor knows how dangerous the situation was. Qtards rule!!!



Take a harder look as to who set up and runs Parler...you might understand why.
bgz Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
That's because you lack critical thinking skills.




LMFAO even harder!!!

You... telling me that?!?!?!

OMFG, too funny.

You made my day dude, really.
teedubbya Offline
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Questions always questions not sayin just askin

This message is brought to you by the letter Q
tonygraz Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Take a harder look as to who set up and runs Parler...you might understand why.


Parlor or Parler ?
bgz Offline
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So parlors and parlers are bad... stay away from both.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Revolver is doing some excellent reporting. Here they document 5 cases of FBI collusion beyond denial.

They highlight these 5 events that most have either forgot about or don't even know.

The First World Trade Center Bombing
Garland, Texas Shooting
Hal Turner
COINTELPRO
The Herald Square Bomber


The above cases only touch the surface of the FBI’s long history of entrapment/incitement schemes. Indeed, the more we learn about the FBI and the national security state generally, the more we are compelled to wonder whether they exist to do anything BUT conspire against the American people.

Stay tuned as Revolver continues to break news on the latest chapter of the FBI and national security state’s shame and infamy.


https://www.revolver.news/2021/06/five-cases-of-fbi-incitement/
Bogey1 Offline
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Very well stated. They are truly the American Gestapo or Stasi. I keep hearing about the honorable, hard working rank and file, but where are the mass resignations as the truth of this dangerous, corrupt DemonRAT organization has been revealed?
Bogey1 Offline
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Very well stated. They are truly the American Gestapo or Stasi. I keep hearing about the honorable, hard working rank and file, but where are the mass resignations as the truth of this dangerous, corrupt DemonRAT organization has been revealed?
DrMaddVibe Offline
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What The FBI Did to a Pillar of His Community After the Capitol Riot Is Shameful



As the president of his local block association in New York City, he has always looked out for his neighbors, particularly over this past year during the pandemic doing things to raise morale. He even became a Red Cross volunteer after 9/11, and he also once saved a woman when someone tried to mug her.

On top of all that, he takes care of his elderly mother, who is 94.

But, the FBI blew up his life and almost destroyed him over the past few months. His crime? Attending President Donald Trump’s rally on Jan. 6 with a friend, even though he never went into the Capitol building. He dropped in on the rally and then went back to his hotel. He was there at his hotel, with time stamps on pictures to prove it, he says, during the breach at the Capitol. He did go back to the Capitol later, filming from the outside, but the riot was over by that point.

That didn’t stop the FBI.

They showed up–unannounced–at his mother’s home where he was staying and interviewed him for 25 minutes. He told them what he had happened, even showed them video and they left. But they didn’t leave it there.

From NY Post:

The next Thursday at 6 a.m., he was awakened in his mother’s apartment by loud banging. “I opened the door and there’s about 10 tactical police soldiers and one is pointing a rifle at my head. [They had] a battering ram and a crowbar.”

They also had a search warrant, issued by District Judge Gabriel Gorenstein, which named Bolanos as the “target subject.” The front door of his empty apartment was being broken down in a simultaneous raid.

The warrant authorized the federal agents to seize his property as evidence relating to crimes including “obstruction of Congress,” “civil disorders,” “conspiracy to impede/assault federal agents,” “interstate travel to participate in riot,” and “unlawful entry on restricted buildings or grounds.”


It continued:

The FBI ransacked both apartments, upending drawers, trashing his mother’s bedroom.

He was handcuffed and taken outside to an FBI car to be interrogated for four hours.

An NBC camera crew had been tipped off and was there to film his shame. NBC quoted “sources” saying charges against him were imminent. The story would be repeated in two local publications.


He began to feel ill and had to be taken to the hospital where they told him he’d suffered a stroke. He later had another one in May from the stress. His neighbors are now treat him like a terrorist, and one who previously gave him a turkey told him that she hoped Antifa would get him, the Post reported.

Bolanos went on Laura Ingraham’s show Friday night with his troubling story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrqrMvUZWcQ&t=770s

This is a shameful story. Bolanos is 69. He was fully cooperating with them, he had documentary evidence he wasn’t there when it went down — yet still, they upended his life, not caring how that might harm him. If they had any further questions, they could have asked him. They did the 6 a.m. in the morning thing for maximum terrorizing, even tipped off NBC for that little extra shame.

He’s never been charged, and he still doesn’t have his devices back. Now, he clearly needs a lawyer to push back more on his behalf, but this appears to be something that never should have happened to begin with. They destroyed his life.

Meanwhile, let’s compare what the FBI has been doing in regard to the Capitol riot versus how BLM/Antifa rioters have been treated.

In Portland for example, you had the same people rioting, night and night, attacking the federal courthouse. Yet there seems to have been no organized effort to take down the organizers and leaders. Certainly nothing on the order of the effort mounted in regard to the Capitol riot.

Indeed, in terms of the state charges in Portland, most seem to have gotten off or not even had charges filed, despite the evidence of guilt, despite their riots being an actual ongoing conspiracy against the government and the authorities.

I do hope Joseph Bolanos gets his reputation back with this appearance. But, it’s also a stark reminder that, as we saw from my DOJ story earlier today, that law enforcement under Joe Biden looks like it’s being politicized. Something that should never happen and something that’s danger to our Republic.

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/06/26/what-the-fbi-did-to-a-pillar-of-his-community-after-the-capitol-riot-is-shameful-n402768
RayR Offline
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America's Gestapo is like all the other government monstrosities that were sold to the sheeple as do-gooder paternalism of limited scope and mission.
The sheeple then say nonsense such as: “I haven’t done anything wrong. I have nothing to fear.” God help the sheeple.
Mr. Jones Offline
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#80 DMV's Bolanos post...

That doesn't surprise me one Eye-ooohhhtttaaahhhh...

They did the exact same thing to me...after I saved HARRISBURG, PA AND THE CHESAPEAKE BAY FROM A TERRORIST DIRTY BOMB ATTACK ON 9-9- 2012...

THEY TURNED MY LIFE INTO A FREAKIN NIGHTMARE...

They held a meeting at the EDEN RESORT IN LANCASTER FOR EVERYONE ON MY STREET and a few crime watch members from my neighborhood, tOLD them all total lies about me and hired them with CASH TO GANGSTALK ME INCESSANTLY...
FOR 6+ YEARS, STOLE $1 MILLION IN CASH FROM MY HOUSE, TRIED TO KILL ME OVER 9+ TIMES WITH ARSENIC in my home water pitcher / arsenic in the creamer POWDERED COFFEE DISPENSER at Lancaster Orthopedic dr.s office put there by "BUTCH" THE RAT from the Lancaster pa American legion and his duece / black assassin buddy, and , TWO DRUGGINGS at bars, A FEDEX TRUCK DOING 65+ IN THE SQAURE OF HARRISBURG,
A staged event in front of my hut /FBI ASSASSIN agent asking for directions WITH A SILENCED 9MM IN HIS LAP ALONG WITH AN ASSASSIN FBI AGENT FAKE UPS DRIVER JUST WAITING TO LOAD MY BODY IN HIS TRUCK AFTER HE SHOT ME, a heart attack drug hand shake at Glenn Gerry brick company in Reading, pa by that POS CIA Mena Arkansas Sandinista drug and gun runner PRICK named Terry Reed , ON AND ON AND ON...

THEY DONT LIKE "loose ends"...

They prefer car "accidents" & poisonings or fake heart attacks...they shoot you as a very very last resort...

F**k the FBI

F**K THE SPECIAL SERVIELENCE GROUP DIVISION of the FBI
tonygraz Offline
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Hard to believe about the Fedex truck - they have so many bad drivers.
Mr. Jones Offline
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Hand on the bible T.R.U.E.

FEDEX 65+ MPH thru the red light at the HARRIBURG SQUARE JUST AFTER DUSK I had kakhi's and white shirt on
Not blue jeans and black shirt...

He veered over at me and missed me by less than a 8"...
SSG ASSASSIN BIGTIME...

Right in front of the downtown HILTON where I reported ( months earlier) the 10 midget Saudi's ( who couldn't lift their SILVER EMBOSSED SPY suitcases they were so heavy) and the 7 ++ foot tall EGYPTIAN CARRYING A 6 FOOT LONG SILVER EMBOSSED SPY SUITCASE THAT COULD FIT a Russian rocketlauncher, That Mutherf**ker was one scarey looking dude...HE WAS "ALL BUSINESS ...NO SMILE"
bgz Offline
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Russian rocket launcher is highly specific.

It was probably just a coffee cup from amazon.
teedubbya Offline
#86 Posted:
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Well DMV and Jones have almost convinced me. If MACS and RayR join the dream team I’ll be convinced


Whoooooooooo
teedubbya Offline
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J/k jonsie. Please don’t tell frank im being a deek.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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But Rudy....


FBI lawyer who lied to judge on FISA warrant will be able to practice law again in August after zero jail time


The Russiagate cover-up rolls merrily along, with the agitprop media almost completely ignoring a startling instance of the Deep State taking care of its own, even when they are caught red-handed committing grave felonies.

Does the name Kevin Clinesmith ring a bell? He's the FBI lawyer who lied on a FISA warrant in order to be able to spy on the Trump campaign by falsely implicating Carter Page. He was caught red-handed in altering an email 180 degrees.

Lying to a judge is a serious offense for anyone. But for an officer of the court, one who works for the government and has a heightened obligation to serve justice, to lie to a court is a very serious breach. Failure to punish government officials who perjure themselves in order to spy on innocent citizens and a presidential campaign invites the worst kind of abuse. It plants the seeds of tyranny.

Special Counsel John Durham was not interested in punishing Clinesmith severely, but at least he did ask for prison time last December, albeit under six months' worth. But federal judge James Boasberg, the very judge lied to, was sympathetic to Clinesmith and sentenced him to 12 months of probation and 400 hours of community service in January.


Judge James Boasberg.

Judge Boasberg was appointed to the federal Bench by Obama and placed on the FISA court by Chief Justice Roberts. He is reportedly a member of Skull & Bones, the ultra-elite secret society at Yale University.
Taking a Knee to Public Safety

Now, very quietly, word has spread that Clinesmith will be able to practice law again in just a couple of months.

James Freeman writes in the Wall Street Journal writes about Clinesmith's remarkable full recovery. He correctly describes him as:

the criminal who falsified evidence, which resulted in the surveillance powers of the federal government being turned against a citizen, Carter Page, for participating in a U.S. political campaign.

Freeman notes:

You'll find precious few media reports about it but fortunately Mike Scarcella of Reuters reports:

Former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith has agreed to a one-year suspension of his attorney license in Washington, D.C., following his conviction in August 2020 on a felony false-statement charge arising from the internal review of the special counsel's Russia investigation, new bar records show.

He continues:

The penalty is even more modest than it initially appears because the suspension is backdated to his conviction so this abuser of government power will be allowed to practice law again this August. Add District of Columbia Court of Appeals Board on Professional Responsibility disciplinary counsel Hamilton P. Fox, III and his assistant William R. Ross to the disgraceful ranks of swamp creatures like Judge James Boasberg who have refused to punish appropriately this federal assault on liberty.

He states that this leniency "only encourages other government officials to fabricate evidence."

Judge Boasberg didn't even get his facts straight. NBC's Pete Williams reported at the time of Clinesmith's sentencing that

Federal District Court Judge James Boasberg said that while Clinesmith's actions were serious, the warrant application probably would have been approved anyway without his misstatement. Boasberg also serves as the presiding judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

Freeman says:

The judge was wrong, which suggests that he couldn't even be bothered to read the inspector general's report. There was a reason Clinesmith doctored the infamous email and it was only after his fabrication that another official signed off on the final renewal of the surveillance warrant.

So the message to future Lisa Pages, Andrew McCabes, and Kevin Clinesmiths is, don't worry about breaking the law if you're going after opponents of the Deep State. We'll make sure you get a slap on the wrist.

I wonder what kind of job in the law will await Clinesmith. Judge Boasberg thought losing his FBI job was a big punishment. But I suspect that there is a nice job awaiting a made man who can keep his mouth shut while breaking the law in pursuit of opponents of the Deep State.

There is still a tiny sliver of hope that Clinesmith struck a deal, that Durham has gotten evidence on the record to go after bigger fish. I devoutly wish that to be the case. But I have to say that hope has been fading for quite a while, and now is vanishingly small.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/06/fbi_lawyer_that_lied_to_judge_on_fisa_warrant_will_be_able_to_practice_law_again_in_august_after_zero_jail_time.html
bgz Offline
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Flair > Rudy
teedubbya Offline
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Whooooooo
RayR Offline
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Living the lying life on the taxpayer's dime...totally cool behavior in a duhmacracy.

bgz Offline
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Remember kids... cutting and pasting doesn't make you smart... it makes you eat glue.
RayR Offline
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bgz wrote:
Remember kids... cutting and pasting doesn't make you smart... it makes you eat glue.


I didn't know you were a philosopher.
Whoooooooo!
teedubbya Offline
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I could use some glue right about now. I'm about ready to have some clue glue.
Mr. Jones Offline
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I have a two week load of ELMERS WHITE SPUNK
for your pie 🥧 🕳️ TW
teedubbya Offline
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You tossed off Elmer and kept it for two weeks? Was it multiple times over two weeks to try to collect a huge load or just one kept for two weeks?
bgz Offline
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Elmer's that dude by the dumpster on third.
Mr. Jones Offline
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You are fudd
bgz Offline
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But you got Elmer'ed.
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I've got some Gorilla glue.
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