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HockeyDad Offline
#101 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 4:07 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
There is no ban. mLB decided not to. It’s really not hard. Come on man just get it.


At least there is no ban. It’s just a boycott. I think it’s an important message to send even if it bankrupts every minority owned business in Atlanta. Sometime you gotta break a few eggs.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#102 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 4:25 PM EST
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CelticBomber wrote:
Seriously?



d'oh!


Got me.

I LOL'd
DrMaddVibe Offline
#103 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 4:26 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
At least there is no ban. It’s just a boycott. I think it’s an import message to send even if it bankrupts every minority owned business in Atlanta. Sometime you gotta break a few eggs.



Why Atlanta hasn't taken this hard a beating since Sherman rode through it!
teedubbya Offline
#104 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 4:39 PM EST
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well all of the boycotts during Jim Crow were after Sherman. They suffered years without Ray as a result. At the beginning he wasn't banned but he was later. There is a distinction.

HockeyDad wrote:
At least there is no ban. It’s just a boycott. I think it’s an import message to send even if it bankrupts every minority owned business in Atlanta. Sometime you gotta break a few eggs.


The government isn't banning anything. No one is banning anything. MLB made a decision agree or disagree. As for the Olympics and China its a fall equivalent and a dumb one at that. That is the point. It is a lazy misuse of words to push a false narrative.
HockeyDad Offline
#105 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 5:09 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
well all of the boycotts during Jim Crow were after Sherman. They suffered years without Ray as a result. At the beginning he wasn't banned but he was later. There is a distinction.



The government isn't banning anything. No one is banning anything. MLB made a decision agree or disagree. As for the Olympics and China its a fall equivalent and a dumb one at that. That is the point. It is a lazy misuse of words to push a false narrative.


Just as a point of order...I said boycott not ban and never mentioned China or the Olympics. I like Denver better than Atlanta. Screw Atlanta, China, the Olympics, and the Norwegians.
teedubbya Offline
#106 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 5:12 PM EST
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I was referring to DMV not you but merged the two in to one thought. Point of order taken.
teedubbya Offline
#107 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 5:15 PM EST
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DMV has a bad case of that Freddy Kruger thing.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#108 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 5:19 PM EST
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DAMN THE NYPOST TO HELL!
RayR Offline
#109 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 5:26 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Why Atlanta hasn't taken this hard a beating since Sherman rode through it!


Sherman said that the war "was the result of a false political doctrine that any and every people have a right to self-government.” I'm sure Biden agrees with those sentiments about his woke war on Georgia.
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#110 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 5:34 PM EST
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Yes. It was lazy and incorrect but convenient to a false narrative. If it was left leaning it would probably be more obvious and you wouldn’t have argued about it.
CelticBomber Offline
#111 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 9:20 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Just as a point of order...I said boycott not ban and never mentioned China or the Olympics. I like Denver better than Atlanta. Screw Atlanta, China, the Olympics, and the Norwegians.



I volunteer for the Norwegian F'ing. Beautiful people.... It's a result of that wall they built to keep those dirty Swedes out!
HockeyDad Offline
#112 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 9:20 PM EST
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Exactly! Screw the Swedish too!
frankj1 Offline
#113 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 9:36 PM EST
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they smell like herring
CelticBomber Offline
#114 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 9:46 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
they smell like herring



I wish I had known this was a red flag 27 years ago... Now you tell me.
frankj1 Offline
#115 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 9:56 PM EST
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CelticBomber wrote:
I wish I had known this was a red flag 27 years ago... Now you tell me.

sorry. figgered it was like not needing to warn you about peeing after eating asparagus.
Abrignac Offline
#116 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 10:53 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
The third question is at the heart of one divisive issue. Many Trump followers believe that the sanctity of every legal vote was violated during the 2020 elections, because of their claim that there was rampant voter fraud.

This belief has been repeated over and over, to justify the GOP's legislative proposals to restrict voting. All the "evidence" of this rampant voter fraud has been shown to be BS. Even the lawyer representing Sidney Powell, Trump's lawyer who made the most detailed claims of voter fraud after the election, said "no reasonable person would be expected to believe it (her wild claims)" in a defamation suit by Dominion against her.

If there was rampant voter fraud, as alleged in about 60 federal and state lawsuits filed by Trump, there would be rampant evidence...and yet, there hasn't been any...




in answer to your first two questions, I think the vast majority of Americans believe that...


but here are some articles that say a powerful few Americans who do not...

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/04/republicans-now-just-admitting-they-want-fewer-americans-to-vote

https://truthout.org/articles/gop-lawyer-admits-to-scotus-that-voting-rights-disadvantage-republican-party/

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/28/970877930/why-republicans-are-moving-to-fix-elections-that-werent-broken


Did you actually read the articles? It’s mostly left wing spin.

As far as the facts:
What is wrong with limiting early voting to 17 days? That 2 1/2 weeks. If someone can’t manage to cast a ballot in that time frame, then perhaps it’s time we move to a 24/7/365 framework? How many people are really unable to make it to the polls every other year held on the same day of November each time? This thesis is absolutely BS!

What is wrong with requiring ID to cast a vote? One is required for medical services, to drive, to purchase cigarettes or alcohol, to pick up baseball tickets from will call etc.... This another BS thesis.

Does someone really need more than 78 days to request an absentee ballot? BS!

What is wrong with requiring absentee ballots to be deposited at a registrars office? That would prevent a possibility of a midnight sojourn to deposit a few hundred harvested ballots where there is no validity integrity. Before anyone says we don’t have proof of fraud so it’s not required. Law journals are full of preventive measures, so what’s wrong with one more? BS!

Yadda, yadda yadda much adieu about noting.
Abrignac Offline
#117 Posted: Wed, Apr 7 2021, 11:00 PM EST
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BTW, voter suppression cuts two ways. A person’s vote is suppressed if they are prevented form LEGALLY casting a ballot, but not if access is governed by “common sense regulations”. (See what I did there?

But, a person’s vote is also suppressed if that persons’s LEGAL vote preempted by an ILLEGALLY cast vote.
bgz Offline
#118 Posted: Thu, Apr 8 2021, 10:08 AM EST
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Out of curiosity, I'm wondering what percentage of votes are illegal across the board.

Also, what makes you so sure that the illegal votes are coming from where you think they are coming?

As that whole sh*t show played out, it turned out that more trump supporters tried to cheat than the converse, so how do you think tightening voting laws is going to help you?

Trump told you the other side cheated more... he lied (or probably just assumed... but more than likely lied)...

I've said this before... I thought he was throwing. The more I think about it, the more I think he played all of you.

Here's a conspiracy theory for you... trump was a plant, was never meant to win, but he did. Then when he was in, he made the party look more and more nuts to anyone that's not in the party.

So the conspiracy, he with his buddies the Clintons and who ever else he is or was in bed with (probably not Epstein, but he probably worked with him) f*cked you guys over so hard.

He has you guys sounding like a bunch of liberals asking for more money, screaming voter fraud, calling each other woke because you know the q truth... saying the government isn't doing enough for you. Trump has you guys asking for more regulation, etc, etc, etc...

Ya... trump played you.
bgz Offline
#119 Posted: Thu, Apr 8 2021, 10:10 AM EST
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He probably called Hillary on election night and said "I'm sorry'.
ZRX1200 Offline
#120 Posted: Thu, Apr 8 2021, 10:15 AM EST
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I’ve been talking about this longer than Trump has been Orange....

Should dead voters be removed from voter rolls bgz?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#121 Posted: Thu, Apr 8 2021, 10:39 AM EST
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But considering the Democrats' rejection of Trump’s presidency four years earlier and their promotion of the Russian collusion investigation, it got GOP pollster David Winston to wonder if election rejection was only a Republican thing.

When he conducted his February “Winning the Issues” survey of 1,000 registered voters, he included two questions to test his doubt, asking if Trump and Biden were elected fairly or not.

In nearly identical numbers, partisans felt their candidate won fairly, and the other guy did not. Remarkably, only 19% of the country believed that both Biden and Trump won their elections fairly.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/democrats-dont-trust-elections-either-19-say-biden-trump-elected-fairly


Now, the gorilla in the room is that the US turned out in record numbers for a mumbling stumbling bigoted racist that ran a campaign from his basement? That's a BIG leap. More than Obama, the 1st Black President? More than Hillary, the 1st woman to lead the ticket? Both had sizable voter turnout numbers without denial. More than a wartime President? Even Trump turned in the most votes ever for an incumbent and we have this Dragonslayer of Virtue to save us? It raises eyebrows and leads to questions. Personally, I'd really like the turnout to be large. That means people exercising their rights. They should be legal and they should be able to show an ID to do it. You want to buy alcohol at a bar or store? You're getting carded. Want to buy smokes? You're getting carded. Get on an airplane? You're getting carded. Have tickets for a concert or sporting event at a Will Call counter? You're getting carded. Want to purchase a gun? You're getting carded. The list goes on and on and on. This notion that you cannot get a drivers license or at the least a state ID (for disabled or people that don't want to drive) is idiocy. Why water down the act of voting by allowing anyone that shows up and those that just want to stuff envelopes that pop up in trunks of cars or unsanctioned carriers? Shouldn't we all expect better? Why is it only one particular political party goes out of their way to derail this function and cry out "Restrictive", "Racist" or "Conspiracy"? I really like it when the voter is actually alive to cast a ballot, could be me...I don't know. One thing that is clear is that to say it's racist to get an ID...well that's just not true.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/poll-75-percent-americans-support-voter-id
HockeyDad Offline
#122 Posted: Thu, Apr 8 2021, 11:16 AM EST
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Having to show ID to vote is racist because a significant portion of African-Americans are not competent enough to get a state ID or drivers license.

I’ve always struggled with this statement and the blatant disrespect and racism consistently exhibited by Democrat leadership over this issue.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#123 Posted: Thu, Apr 8 2021, 11:19 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Having to show ID to vote is racist because a significant portion of African-Americans are not competent enough to get a state ID or drivers license.

I’ve always struggled with this statement and the blatant disrespect and racism consistently exhibited by Democrat leadership over this issue.



My, how you've carried that on your back. It must be tiring.
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#124 Posted: Thu, Apr 8 2021, 11:35 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Having to show ID to vote is racist because a significant portion of African-Americans are not competent enough to get a state ID or drivers license.

I’ve always struggled with this statement and the blatant disrespect and racism consistently exhibited by Democrat leadership over this issue.


Wrong, Biden said it himself: Poor kids are just as bright as white kids.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#125 Posted: Thu, Apr 8 2021, 12:26 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Wrong, Biden said it himself: Poor kids are just as bright as white kids.


..."I got hairy legs that turn blonde in the sun. The kids used to come up and reach in the pool & rub my leg down so it was straight & watch the hair come back up again. So I learned about roaches..." “I love kids jumping on my lap." Yeah, nothing racist or creepy there right?
BuckyB93 Offline
#126 Posted: Thu, Apr 8 2021, 1:26 PM EST
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Sounds like a snippet from some of the Vherfs.
teedubbya Offline
#127 Posted: Thu, Apr 8 2021, 2:37 PM EST
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those pictures served a clinical purpose
DrMaddVibe Offline
#128 Posted: Thu, Apr 8 2021, 3:47 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Sounds like a snippet from some of the Vherfs.



Sounds more like Will Ferrel's character Ashley Schaeffer in "Eastbound & Down"...

https://youtu.be/1JE4JJddZx4

Then you realize...Nope...it's just Creepy Joe.

https://youtu.be/cIB4V0FAB-U


Reality is now funnier than satire...except when it makes your skin crawl.
BuckyB93 Offline
#129 Posted: Thu, Apr 8 2021, 10:35 PM EST
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One two NINE!
Burner02 Offline
#130 Posted: Fri, Apr 9 2021, 8:23 AM EST
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MLB commissioner decided to move All-Star Game after pressure from Stacey Abrams on voting issues:

Abrams’ group and Al Sharpton urged commissioner to support a host of issues, including voter drives and H.R. 1

Major League Baseball (MLB) commissioner Robert Manfred decided to move the All-Star Game on his own after holding extensive discussions with voting rights groups associated with Lebron James, Stacey Abrams and Rev. Al Sharpton, sources familiar with the move tell Fox News.

Abrams told a senior league official that she wanted him to denounce the Georgia voting rights law, according to people with direct knowledge of the matter. People associated with Sharpton's civil rights organization, and James's voting right group, "More than a Vote" also pressured league officials, according to people with direct knowledge of the matter.

After these conversations, Manfred believed the All Star game would be turned into a political event and players would boycott the game, these people say. Baseball sources say that Abrams’ current stance, that she is disappointed about the Georgia boycott, is suspect because she was among the most prominent political operatives to pressure the league to denounce the new law. James has publicly supported the Georgia boycott.

People close to Manfred believe Abrams’ group and Sharpton also wanted the league to support other issues, including voter drives and H.R. 1, the For the People Act — sweeping election reform that recently passed the House.

"They wanted us to do more than just a pre-game ceremony...Baseball would have to be in the market for doing stuff involving voting rights," a senior MLB executive with direct knowledge of the matter tells Fox News.

Manfred decided the easiest way to deal with the matter was to leave Georgia, according to a source.

After Manfred made the decision, he told the eight-member executive committee before making the announcement, which surprised the 22 other teams. Manfred said the decision was made after discussions with the MLB Players Association and its Players Alliance.

The game will now be held in Colorado.

In a statement to Fox New, Abrams spokesman Seth Bringman downplayed her role in the entire matter. "In a single, 1-on-1 conversation with an MLB senior advisor, she urged the league to keep the All-Star game in Georgia and to speak out against the law when they do," Bringman said.


bgz Offline
#131 Posted: Fri, Apr 9 2021, 9:08 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I’ve been talking about this longer than Trump has been Orange....

Should dead voters be removed from voter rolls bgz?


I'm all for people keeping clean data. Sometimes it's easier said than done. I imagine it is done... but if Ethel died 2 months ag, she might not be purged yet.

Is it possible some are on the list? Sure... people have been doing identity theft for years. If you have solutions that will work in the real world to keep list clean, and you think your solution is better than their solution, you should probably let them know.

Data management is hard... especially when you are quite literally keeping track of everyone.
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#132 Posted: Fri, Apr 9 2021, 10:42 AM EST
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screw Ethel.... Not talking
tonygraz Offline
#133 Posted: Fri, Apr 9 2021, 12:42 PM EST
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It's got to be tough to keep the records straight, with people dying and moving away. If everyone was highly tracked, the same people complaining about dead people being on the voting rolls would be complaining that their privacy was being taken away,
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