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Last post 3 years ago by rfenst. 10 replies replies.
Why is DeSantis living in the heads of the left wing media?
Burner02 Offline
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Is it that he is a perceived front runner for the right in 2024?
Is it a deflection to draw attention away from Cuomo and NY?
Or is it a case of attack and destroy because the left can without facts?

Two weeks after the failed 60 Minutes attempted hit, Joy Reed and MSMBC are now entering the DeSantis attack.

MSNBC Tries To Smear Ron DeSantis By Baselessly Wondering If He Could Be Tied To Sex Trafficking Scandal

Far-left MSNBC host Joy Reid ran a segment on Thursday night with a partisan former federal prosecutor, Glenn Kirschner, where the two tried to loosely imply that Florida Republican Governor Ron DeSantis could be implicated in an alleged scandal involving sex trafficking — despite having absolutely no proof.

The segment focused on Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), who has been accused of being involved in sex trafficking, allegations that he vehemently denies. Gaetz has also not been charged with any crime.

“So, the question for Gaetz, because obviously Greenberg has to give somebody bigger than him, that would be Gaetz,” Reid said. “Here is at least, per the reporting, the people who were on that Bahamas trip. Notice if you see somebody’s name that rings a couple of times.”

“[You] had at least five women, per Politico, you had Gaetz; you had a guy named Jason Pirozzolo, the hand surgeon and GOP fundraiser to Ron DeSantis, who apparently Gaetz wanted to turn into the attorney general of Florida,” Reid continued. “

“If you’re Ron DeSantis, does this feel like it’s creeping closer to you?” Reid asked Kirschner. “Because these are your friends, these are your allies.”

“Yeah, just as Greenberg’s lawyer said about Matt Gaetz when he left the courthouse the other day, he said, you know what, if I were Matt Gaetz, I don’t think I’d be all that comfortable right about now,” Kirschner claimed. “You have to believe that DeSantis, I mean, these are his boys, these are his guys, right? We’ve seen the pictures.”

“We’ve heard the stories. You have to believe that Ron DeSantis, if he has done anything wrong, feels like things are creeping closer and closer to him,” Kirschner claimed.

CBS News’ “60 Minutes” tried to smear DeSantis with a deceptively edited segment that aired earlier this month. The segment was so disastrous that CBS News had to address issues with their reporting several times the following week after receiving widespread backlash over the segment, including from Democrats.

Related:

CBS Deceptively Edits Reporter’s Interaction With FL Governor Ron DeSantis. Here’s What He Really Said.

Publix, Democrat State Official Blast ‘Absolutely False And Offensive’ CBS ‘60 Minutes’ Smear Of DeSantis

CBS Slammed For Smearing Ron DeSantis On ‘60 Minutes’: ‘One Of The More Blatant Political Hatchet Jobs’

DeSantis Hits CBS After They Claim Deceptive Editing Was ‘For Clarity’: Here’s What They Didn’t Tell You

Democrat Mayor On CBS Smearing Ron DeSantis: I Explained Everything To Them In 45-Minute Interview

Emails Show CBS Had DeSantis’ Answers To Questions Before Segment Aired, Ignored Warning From Democrat




I really miss the days when the media/news reported the news and not an agenda.

rfenst Offline
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DeSantis is my governors. I think he is an @sshole. I disagree with him much of the time on some very serious matters and hope he won't be our next governor. Nevertheless, It is unfair to associate him with Greenberg and Gaetz.
RayR Offline
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You haven't made a very convincing case counselor. I would wish a curse upon you like having Andrew Cuomo or Gavin Newsom as your governor but I wouldn't want to do that to the rest of the folks in Florida who have been freed in a large part from the fascist COVID cult.
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rfenst wrote:
DeSantis is my governors. I think he is an @sshole. I disagree with him much of the time on some very serious matters and hope he won't be our next governor. Nevertheless, It is unfair to associate him with Greenberg and Gaetz.


I can appreciate your point of view. To me, he is the governor next door and my only dog in the fight is pointing out the corrupt and biased media.
rfenst Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
I can appreciate your point of view. To me, he is the governor next door and my only dog in the fight is pointing out the corrupt and biased media.
I agree about the media. What state are you in?
Burner02 Offline
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AL, 25 minutes from Pensacola.
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He might be a player in the primary, I think that’s a part, but he’s governor of a successful state and a R.
RayR Offline
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That's why DeSantis must be cancelled, he's governor of a successful state and a R.
If he was governor of a failed state and a D, he would be admired as a hero by the left progressives.
And I hear he's not woke.Shhh
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He's the governor that's done everything right in regards to the pandemic. He followed the science. The state protected the elderly. He was vocal about his position and aligned himself with 45. Look at the other states with populations larger or similar to Florida that were controlled by the DNC. They're locked down, budgets blown, tax revenues shot and large corporations and people moving from them. Governor DeSantis is a threat to their blatant failures. Following CBS's hit piece on 60 Minutes only emboldened him to go for the throat and take them to court. He will win whatever he is running for and the nation is watching.

Exposed it all. Like a gutted fish.
rfenst Offline
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Opinion: Ron DeSantis Is the Republican Autopsy
As their theory of how to move past Donald Trump, G.O.P. insiders have the governor of Florida.

By Ross Douthat
NYT Opinion Columnist


After the Republican Party suffered a surprising (well, to Republicans) defeat in the 2012 election, the Republican National Committee famously commissioned an autopsy that tried to analyze how the party had fallen short. It made a range of recommendations, but they were distilled by the headlines — and the wishful thinking of certain party elites — into a plan for the G.O.P. to win back the presidency mostly by shifting left on immigration.

Then, of course, Donald Trump came along and put that particular vision to the torch.

After Trump went down to his own defeat, it was clear that there wouldn’t be a repeat of the autopsy. Not only because the last experience ended badly, but because Trump’s narrative would not allow it: To publicly analyze what went wrong for Republicans in 2020 would be to concede that the incumbent president had somehow failed (impossible!), that Joe Biden’s victory was totally legitimate (unlikely!) and that the party somehow might need to move on from Trump himself (unthinkable!).

But just because there hasn’t been a formal reckoning, thick with focus groups and bullet points, doesn’t mean that G.O.P. elites don’t have a theory of how to fix their party’s problems in time for the next presidential cycle. It’s just that this time the theory is less a message than a man: Right now, the party’s autopsy for 2020, and its not-Trump hopes for 2024, are made flesh in the governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis.

The proximate cause of the enthusiasm for DeSantis is his handling of the pandemic, and the media’s attempted manhandling of him. When the Florida governor began reopening Florida last May, faster than some experts advised, he was cast as a feckless mini-Trump, the mayor from “Jaws” (complete with open, crowded beaches), the ultimate case study in “Florida Man” stupidity.

A year later, DeSantis is claiming vindication: His state’s Covid deaths per capita are slightly lower than the nation’s despite an aged and vulnerable population, his strategy of sealing off nursing homes while reopening schools for the fall looks like social and scientific wisdom, and his gubernatorial foils, the liberal governors cast as heroes by the press, have stumbled and fallen in various ways.

Meanwhile many media attacks on his governance have fizzled or boomeranged, most notably a “60 Minutes” hit piece that claimed to have uncovered corruption in the state’s use of the Publix supermarket for its vaccination efforts but produced no smoking gun, conspicuously edited out much of DeSantis’s rebuttal, and fell afoul of fact checkers. The governor’s public outrage in response was justified, but he must have been privately delighted, since there’s nothing that boosts the standing of a Republican politician quite like being attacked deceptively or unsuccessfully by the press.

So DeSantis has a good narrative for the Covid era — but his appeal as a post-Trump figure goes deeper than just the pandemic and its battles. The state he governs isn’t just a test case for Covid policy. It’s also been an object lesson in the adaptability of the Republican Party in the face of demographic trends that were supposed to spell its doom.

When the 2000 election famously came down to a statistical tie in Florida, many Democrats reasonably assumed that by 2020 they would be winning the state handily, thanks to its growing Hispanic population and generational turnover among Cuban-Americans, with an anti-Castro and right-wing older generation giving way to a more liberal younger one. But instead Florida’s Democrats keep falling short of power, and the Republicans keep finding new ways to win, culminating in 2020, when the Trump-led G.O.P. made dramatic inroads with Hispanics in Miami-Dade County and took the state with relative ease.

DeSantis’s career has been a distillation of this Florida-Republican adaptability. Born in Jacksonville, he went from being a double-Ivy Leaguer (Yale and Harvard Law) to a Tea Party congressman to a zealous Trump defender who won the president’s endorsement for his gubernatorial campaign. A steady march rightward, it would seem — except that after winning an extremely narrow victory over Andrew Gillum in 2018, DeSantis then swung back to the center, with educational and environmental initiatives and African-American outreach that earned him 60 percent approval ratings in his first year in office.

Combine that moderate swing with the combative persona DeSantis has developed during the pandemic, and you can see a model for post-Trump Republicanism that might — might — be able to hold the party’s base while broadening the G.O.P.’s appeal. You can think of it as a series of careful two-steps. Raise teacher’s salaries while denouncing critical race theory and left-wing indoctrination. Spend money on conservation and climate change mitigation through a program that carefully doesn’t mention climate change itself. Choose a Latina running mate while backing E-Verify laws. Welcome conflict with the press, but try to make sure you’re on favorable ground.

This is not exactly the kind of Republicanism that the party’s donor class wanted back in 2012: DeSantis is to their right on immigration and social issues, and arguably to their left on spending. But the trauma of Trumpism has taught the G.O.P. elite that some compromise with base politics is inevitable, and right now DeSantis seems like the safest version of that compromise — Trump-y when necessary, but not Trump-y all the time.

Of course all of this means that he may soon attract the ire of a certain former president, who has zero interest in someone besides himself being the party front-runner for 2024. And the idea that a non-Trump front-runner could be anointed early and actually win seems at odds with everything we’ve seen from the G.O.P. recently.

Then, too, having the press as your constant foil and enemy isn’t necessarily a plus if they manage to come up with something genuinely damaging. There is a resemblance between DeSantis and Chris Christie, who looked like a 2016 front-runner before certain difficulties involving a bridge intervened.

Still, if you were betting on someone who could theoretically run against Trump, mano a mano, and not simply get squashed, I would put DeSantis ahead of both the defeated Trump rivals (meaning Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz) and the loyal Trump subordinates (meaning Mike Pence or Nikki Haley). Not least because in a party that values performative masculinity, the Florida governor’s odd jock-nerd energy and prickly aggression are qualities Trump hasn’t faced before.

The donor-class hope that Trump will simply fade away still seems naïve. But the donors circling DeSantis at least seem to have learned one important lesson from 2016: If you want voters to say no to Donald Trump, you need to figure out, in a clear and early way, the candidate to whom you want them to say y
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