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If you've ever wondered what the actual volume of that box-pressed 60 x 6" cigar is, first you have to measure the sides of the rectangle, because a box-pressed cigar is not a true cylinder. Take, for example, the lamentably discontinued Fallen Angel Double Toro, advertised as a 60/64 x 6" cylinder. It's actually a 56/64 x 40/64 x 6" rectangular tank. The volume of this box-pressed cigar is as follows:

Rectangular tank (56/64 x 40/64 x 6" / .875 x .625 x 6")
Volume = .875 × .625 × 6
= 3.2812 inches(3)

The volume of the advertised 60 x 6" cylinder is considerably higher:

Cylinder (60/64 x 6" / .937 x 6.000)
Volume = Pi x r(2) x h
= Pi × .46859(2) × 6
= 1.3169535 x Pi
= 4.1373 inches(3)

The true volume of a box-pressed Fallen Angel Double Toro is, in other words, approximately 79% of the volume of a true cylindrical 60 x 6" cigar. So if you think you're getting a true 60-gauge cigar (and all that extra tobacco) in a box press, you have miscalculated.

@ opel
Thanks for adding nothing of value.

13,440 posts, all of them ****, I'm guessing.
Buh-bye!

The only thing I like about b0x pressed rectangular cigars is that the don't roll off of things you set them down on. Don't mess with Opie, he's our UFC guy.

Shape doesn’t matter if it’s the same amount of tobacco.

The box pressed cigars start out circular but then decides it wants to be identified differently so it undergoes a physical transformation. They used to be called Tranny cigars but it was determined that the word Tranny can have negative connotations. "Box-pressed" is considered more PC until it's not.

Should we allow box pressed and circular cigars in the same humidors without their cellos on?

"Shape doesn’t matter if it’s the same amount of tobacco."

But it isn't the same amount. How could it be?
A 56x40 shape (a rectangle) has a wrapper circumference of 192 and an area of 2240 (L x W).
A 60x60 shape (a circle) has a circumference of 188.4 (2 x Pi x R) but an area of 2826 (Pi x R squared).
Given these factors, the cylinder must have a greater volume than the rectangular tank.

All this, of course, would be moot if cigars were marketed by weight as well as volume. But manufacturers and marketers do not disclose the weights of their cigars. The weight is the missing factor. And it's crucial.

If you had the choice, all other factors being equal, of identically shaped cigars, one weighing 18 grams and the other weighing 23 grams, which would you select? Which would be the best value? The answer is obvious. And that's why cigar manufacturers and marketers talk about everything -- length and ring gauge and wrapper origin and binder credentials and filler mysticism and blender biographies -- except weights. In my view, the average weight of a cigar should be listed alongside its other credentials. Because a 23-gram cigar -- all other factors being equal -- will burn longer and be a better value for the price -- than an 18-gram cigar.

I hid BuckyB93's posts (as well as most of the others here) from my view due to Azz-hattery.
Any non-Azz-hats have anything intelligent to add to this discussion?

Plus you'll miss the fun

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and stuff

maybe the measurements of the op are correct (haven't checked) regarding what empty cylindrical and rectangular containers potentially hold, but they do not take into account the density of what is in them.
If packed and rolled a little tighter, one cigar of even the same shape will contain more filling than the other...though both appear to be filled.

Also, I'm thinking you can get more grass seed into either than popcorn.
just a side note but relevant.

However, the fact that box pressed cigars start as cylinders and then get pressed in the box should have been the definitive statement on the incorrect theory.

Though you are obviously a talented chef, WSC, for those reasons, you've been chopped.

"the fact that box pressed cigars start as cylinders and then get pressed in the box"

Indeed they do. But, as demonstrated above, a 56 x 40 final box press is not the same thing as a true, round, 60 ring-gauge cigar.
The true 60 has a greater volume.
You can't defeat geometry.
And that's the point.
That, and deceptive marketing.
And Azzhats of course.

If you want to do the math, calculate the percentage of wrapper and binder compared to filler. You will find that while you have more tobacco in a larger ring gage a smaller ring gage is a higher quality cigar.

Who smokes 60 ring guage these days?

Block me too, I won't be any help to you

Now you're making sense...

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You see that a lot in contracts and legal documents. It always confused me. By writing "This page intentionally left blank," it is no longer blank right? Why would you intentionally add a blank page to document anyway? Just to piss off the eco-tree huggers?

So many questions, so little answers. Like the whole rectangular vs round cigar. What about the other shapes? At which point down the length is the gauge defined? Shouldn't they have a reference point from where the diameter is taken? For example: perfecto, ring 46 as measured 3.25" from the foot. Then there's the whole metric system that would screw up the entire industry.

So, as had been explained here multiple times............the cigar starts out as a regular cigar, and is THEN box pressed.
I’m not clear as to why you are not grasping this concept.

Years ago, I worked for a Boutique cigar startup.
They made pretty mediocre cigars.........as some botl here who volunteered to test flight them for me may remember.
I was involved in marketing, and did some QC for them as well.

Anyways, I had a box of the 6x60s, and I remember that the difference in weight between the heaviest and lightest cigar in the box was over 5 grams..........substantial.
Does it make a difference in the smoking experience.........maybe........maybe not.
Waaaaay to many other factors involved that impact the overall smoking experience.

you are assuming every tobacco leaf is identical in weight, thickness and vein/stem ratios, so when rolled, their volume is equal...that is wrong...some leaves are thick, while others are very thin

cigar blenders use a variety of different leaves to achieve "unique " flavors

consider the variables of roller skill, RH, length of fermentation, position of leaf on the plant, etc.

the most important consideration about filling up the volume: draw...put too much tobacco in a cigar, or roll it too tight...and it becomes unsmokeable

to do what you are still whining about, cigar manufacturers could print the weight of the box of cigars...even just the net weight of the contents.
But you'd still not know the weight of each individual cigar, nor do you now know the weight of each individual tomato in the can, yet you feel you are not being deceived for some weird reason.

How many beans are in every can of Goya black beans? Is it always the same number?
Why not? Manufacturer's deception, eh?

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=how+many+bean+in+a+can+of+goya

My turn, how many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie pop?

You are correct.

WSC is a sharp as a tennis ball.

He just wanted to post a bunch of math equations hoping people would think he was wicked smaht. He is not.

The things that truly matter? Guess I'm a n00b and an azzhat but these are the things I want to know. If I don't like the blend and/or have had a bad experience with the blender's offerings, I'm not buying regardless of size, shape or weight...size doesn't matter!

But seriously, trying to avoid azzhattery...here?!?!?

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