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Best vitola is...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#1 Posted:
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the lancero... just my opinion... if yours is different then it's wrong...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted:
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I usually use the robusto as barometer of a blend...toro next.

Just my opinion.
deadeyedick Offline
#3 Posted:
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Opinionated little fooker aren't you. But I agree.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#4 Posted:
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you think this is bad, you should see my uneducated opinions... 2 words: "stronger" and "more baffling"...
Whistlebritches Offline
#5 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
the lancero... just my opinion... if yours is different then it's wrong...


I concur wholeheartedly.............. with the corona hot on it's heels
BuckyB93 Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 07-16-2004
Posts: 14,152
Corona, lancero, robusto in order of preference but the trend to larger gauges make it harder to find corona and lancero sizes.
izonfire Offline
#7 Posted:
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98.2% of my stock have been toros, but the handful of corona versions I’ve tried have been delicious.
Wouldn’t touch a lancero, as the Wombat has strongly advised against it.
And I am nothing if not obedient and respectful...
Mandoman Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 12-27-2005
Posts: 4,761
Whatever’s in my hand at the moment.
BuckyB93 Offline
#9 Posted:
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izonfire wrote:
98.2% of my stock have been toros, but the handful of corona versions I’ve tried have been delicious.
Wouldn’t touch a lancero, as the Wombat has strongly advised against it.
And I am nothing if not obedient and respectful...


Well, based on your post history... then you're nothing.

NINE!
izonfire Offline
#10 Posted:
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Well, based on your post history... then you're nothing.

NINE!

Extremely difficult to argue with that...
Sunoverbeach Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2017
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When I started would only smoke lancero/lonsdale and corona. Picked up robusto because I was severely limited on available blends in the smaller sizes. Corona gorda is my current sweet spot
BuckyB93 Offline
#12 Posted:
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Posts: 14,152
Perfecto

Like the long gone Perdomo2 and Cupido Criollo. I have a few of each left but can't bring myself to smoke them because once the are gone, they are gone forever. I should've bought more of these when they were readily available.
KingoftheCove Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 10-08-2011
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It’s 5.5 x 46

I have spoken
Palama Offline
#14 Posted:
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Depending on how you define “best”, I’d vote (...if we were doing a poll...) for Corona.

Perfect wrapper-to-filler ratio, ideal length and RG which leads to smoke time of 45 to 60-ish minutes.

Too short you say? Well hey, to paraphrase the great Ernie Banks, “Let’s smoke two!”

Don’t get me wrong, the Lancero is a great vitola too but I’ve had more draw issues with them than Coronas. The PerfecDraw tool will fix a Corona lickety-split but not always the case with the longer, thinner brother. I also need to pay more attention when I smoke a Lancero (...yah, okay, I’mma nOOb so whatja expect?...) and the sometimes l-o-n-g smoke time of close to 2 hours doesn’t always fit the available garage time.
ZRX1200 Offline
#15 Posted:
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Corona/Corona gorda/Petite Corona

Period.
Whistlebritches Offline
#16 Posted:
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Perfecto

Like the long gone Perdomo2 and Cupido Criollo. I have a few of each left but can't bring myself to smoke them because once the are gone, they are gone forever. I should've bought more of these when they were readily available.



The P2 Torfecto in the Cameroon wrapper was incredible.I'm not sure you could improve on that vitola in that particular cigar..........simply amazing.I'm not a big perfecto fan but Nick's torfecto was second to none.I have a couple maduro robustos fast asleep but I wish they were the torfectos in Cameroon.
clickbangdead Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 01-31-2009
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You know, I probably sing the praises of more lanceros than most on here, but that's mostly because there are definitely a few lines that have the Lancero as the pinnacle of their line. Cain F, Olivia V, Trinidad all meet that bar. There are some blends that just don't lend themselves to being rolled as a Lancero though. Personally, I tend to like lonsdales and Coronas/petit Coronas a lot, but enjoy everything from robusto, toro, and Churchill's, just do not prefer over-50 RG cigars.
drglnc Offline
#18 Posted:
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Lancero is my fave but toro and robusto are my norms unless cutting the grass and that is Churchill territory
tonygraz Offline
#19 Posted:
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Varies from cigar to cigar blend. I like some lanceros, dislike most coronas, tend to favor robustos and toros, like some churchills and presidentes. I think I've smokes about all of the 5 Vegas Gold vitolas and surprisingly the double bullion (6x60) seems to be the best.
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#20 Posted:
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I’ve got a bit of everything. I’m just not a huge ring guage kinda guy. I’ve got a lot of toros in the 50 ring size. I too like lanceros very well. Lately I’ve been buying Coronas. Some of the Coronas is consider corona Gordos. Hmmm.

Keep it around 50 ring guage and I’ll burn it. I even like the 47 ring Churchill pretty well.

Guess I’m not picky.
clintCigar Offline
#21 Posted:
Joined: 05-14-2019
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Corona/Corona gorda/Petite Corona

Period.

I'm on board with this. Also most short churchill's, and 50 and under Rothchildes.
Palama Offline
#22 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Corona/Corona gorda/Petite Corona

Period.


From a business perspective, wouldn’t you think manufacturers would embrace the smaller vitolas based upon the ability to roll more cigars (...and quicker...) because they use less tobacco? Especially when they have a limited edition, you’d want to increase the number of cigars to sell?

Or maybe not if you have crappy tobacco and just trying to sell them off as quickly as possible. Gonz

Lastly, is it just my imagination but whenever I read about people’s favorite vitola size, the vast majority will say smaller RG stogies and rarely ever Gordos or 56RG or greater. So who’s buying the behemoth jawbreakers? Think
madspackler Offline
#23 Posted:
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Torpedo/pyramide, corona, toro
clickbangdead Offline
#24 Posted:
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Palama wrote:
From a business perspective, wouldn’t you think manufacturers would embrace the smaller vitolas based upon the ability to roll more cigars (...and quicker...) because they use less tobacco? Especially when they have a limited edition, you’d want to increase the number of cigars to sell?

Or maybe not if you have crappy tobacco and just trying to sell them off as quickly as possible. Gonz

Lastly, is it just my imagination but whenever I read about people’s favorite vitola size, the vast majority will say smaller RG stogies and rarely ever Gordos or 56RG or greater. So who’s buying the behemoth jawbreakers? Think


Palama, my understanding is that smaller ring gauge requires more experienced (i.e., more costly) rollers in order to get consistency, hence part of the reason you are more and more jawbreakers: they are cheaper to produce even while using more tobacco.
ZRX1200 Offline
#25 Posted:
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Nick Perdomo told me that he would love to make more Coronas as they’re cheaper to make, but people don’t smoke them. I didn’t have anything nice to say so I didn’t. I think with the majority of manufacturing done with molds I think the production is more modular not using more vitolas. Look at Perdomo, how many vitolas are the exact same rg in the same line? Almost all.

Larger vitolas are also more popular with novice or recreational cigar smokers.

I believe it’s the path of least resistance.
Palama Offline
#26 Posted:
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clickbangdead wrote:
Palama, my understanding is that smaller ring gauge requires more experienced (i.e., more costly) rollers in order to get consistency, hence part of the reason you are more and more jawbreakers: they are cheaper to produce even while using more tobacco.


Yah, I thought of that later. Kinda like back-in-the-day when I tried my hand at rolling the wacky-tabacky. Horribly uneven and definitely larger than what my older brother could roll.
delta1 Offline
#27 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
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some of the best cigars I've smoked were lanceros...the Trinidad Fundador is at the top of the list, followed closely by the My Father #4, the El Triunfador ghost stick and all three colors of the Illusione HL's...

but the Montecristo Edmundo at 52 RG robusto is another fave and along with a few others like Ashton VSG and ESG I could smoke those robusto sized cigars every time...


lotsa great coronas too...Cabaiguan, Warped La Colmena, LP Dirty Rat


great cigars come in all sizes and shapes....but as mentioned above, I prefer smaller RG, 50 or less, except for the exceptional 52 RG cigars
24132413 Offline
#28 Posted:
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All depends on the blend.

The Rocky Patel Sun Grown Maduro Lancero was lame when compared to the Toro.

The Espinosa Laranja Reserva Lancero was great but didn't seem better than the Toro.

Same with the Southern Draw Rose of Sharon Lancero. Excellent smoke but about =2 the Toro.

Although not a Lancero, but still on the thinner side, the Alec Bradley Prensado Churchill (7" x 48) tastes much better than the 54-ring Toro size.

The Oliva Serie 'V' Lancero also seems to lack good flavor when compared to the 52-Ring Churchill size.

I do think the My Father Habano No. 4 Lancero tastes better than the thicker ring sizes.

Have a Box of 18 of the Cain 'F' Lancero (7" x 38) coming next week. THAT should be great.

I personally like Torpedo/Belicoso/Figurado sizes best. 6" x 52 of bigger.
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