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We should sue Afghanistan and bankrupt them.

Enough with the victimization.
The Sackler family has suffered enough…

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just speaking from my understanding, not Brewha's...

we were told that the vaccine would protect something like 95% of people.
That means that roughly 1 out of 20 would/could still get infected.

I have no idea if previous vaccines promised and delivered 100% protection...but I think it has worked like one.
Something like 90% of new cases are unvaccinated people.

They probably pumped you full of all kinds of experimental sh*t.

Anyone ever get a routine tetanus vaccine as a kid? Guess what? Its protection was not permanent. You could need another. Yet, it's still called a vaccine... Arguing whether it should be called a vaccine is idiotic in the scheme of things. Nomenclature is irrelevant.

If your argument against the vaccine solely boils down to: it doesn't provide A) total protection; and/or B) permanent protection and is therefore not effective, please cite medical authority as to your belief.

Here is how I see it:

1. The vaccine is known to overwhelmingly decrease the risk of infection;

2. If you are fully vaccinated and still get infected, then your condition isn't likely to be nearly as severe as someone who has not been fully vaccinated and gets infected;

3. If you are fully vaccinated and still get infected then you still may be contagious to others, but to a markedly lesser degree than someone who is not fully vaccinated and gets infected; and.

4. If you are fully vaccinated and still get infected so badly that you need to be hospitalized, your chance of a temporary, bad outcome or bad permanent outcome and/or death, is markedly decreased.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pfizer-scheme-to-churn-out-variant-specific-vaccines-will-lead-to-more-variants-experts-warn/

Tetanus boosters every 10 years not 10 months - so it's a bad analogy. Name one other "vaccine" that needs to be "boostered" on a 6 month schedule.

2, 3, 4 this was not what was advertised when the COVID shot came out.

Too simplify the requirements for a formal FDA approval it needs to be safe and effective.
Safe: TDB.
Effective: I'd say no based on what we are finding today. You can still get it after the shot, you can still transmit it after the shot, and it's looking like you need biannually boosters.

YMMV.

Depends on how one defines "effective." Sounds like lawyer speak... not science. Pretty pathetic.

Depends on what the meaning of the the word is, is

Ya, where are these "hospitals overwhelmed with children dying from the disease"?

Polio was far different from COVID in that it disproportionately affected children and was far scarier. You could be infected but asymptomatic or fine one day and be paralyzed and in an iron lung the next.
The polio vaccine in 1954 was experimental too and the results weren't known until a year later when infections had dropped by 80%. In the rush to jab, there was a major mishap, Cutter Laboratories produced a vaccine lot that was not inactivated properly - which eventually gave polio to an estimated 40,000 children, with 10 of them dying.

Brewha's motto: Freedom is Slavery to the Government

Yes but the “Pride in Stupidity” movement clearly owns the day.

B.S. At what rate of protection or inoculation do you deem it "effective."

You tell me counselor. Does a vaccine that doesn't protect the individual from being reinfected or transmitting it within merely months of being inoculated sound effective to you?

If so, you have a low threshold of what constitutes effective.

And I'm not talking about the quoted 95% or what ever number they've been using COVID vaccine effectiveness. I get it, nothing is 100%. But they are talking about everyone will need a booster within months, not the 5% of special cases. Everyone!

This isn't science, this is shooting from the hip and making it up as you go along.

I'll let you go through the list of common vaccines for common illnesses (polio, mumps, Hep, measles, small pox, HPV, tetanus, tuberculosis...) Find one, that after full inoculation, recommends that it be boostered within months and possibly on an ongoing basis. You'll probably mention the seasonal/annual flu shots - OK there's one but that is only historically been 50% ish effective. That's a coin flip. I wouldn't classify it as effective. Vegas wouldn't even take bets on those odds.

Maybe you want to establish a "new normal" on the definition and criteria for effectiveness. That way we can shoehorn the COVID vax into that "new normal" while ignoring precedent on what we have been accustomed to and what we should expect from effective vaccines.

Ducking? How did I duck "social responsibility"? What is my responsibility to society? I worked, I paid my taxes, I raised my kid right, I served my country AND my community when I got home. I dare say I'VE done more for society than some libtard f--kwit like you.

Since when is a social responsibility to get vaccines? You making up the rules for social responsibility oh great one?

Brewha doesn't want you to have freedom. Your "social responsibility" is to follow the rest of the lemmings over the cliff because that's where he's going and he needs the company.

Seriously?

If you carry the virus asymptotically and give it to others, no biggie?

Mr. B, is there such a thing as “social responsibility” ?

As it turns out you can do that regardless of being vaccinated. Therefore the socially responsible thing to do is to wear three masks.

I think it's funny... viruses going around killing people... do I get a vaccine?.... nah... don't trust those guys...

Wear a mask? Nah... cheap China product... don't trust that sh*t.

Fk it... going to go to this huge event about truck nuts!!. I trust those guys... none of them are vaccinated nor wear masks... none of them are going to get covid and die because we're muricans!!!

Murica!!! We're never going to win another election because are percentages are dwindling daily!!!!

It's better to be wrong than do what a liberal recommends... because well, that's freedom and this is Murica... I can choose to be stupid and die if I want to.

I find the blind enthusiasm to get the vaccine and force others to get the vaccine both amusing and disturbing.

I watch the daily news for the regular reasons: Big events. Weather.
But I get daily Covid 19 updates.
Anything to push an agenda is discussed and embraced.

But woe be the news that contradicts the narrative.
Case in point:
Data now indicates that actually getting the 'Rona 1.0 and gaining the natural antibodies provides a significant advantage when exposed to the Delta variant. Significant. (this means it helps bigly)
Mother nature kicks Phizer's azz.

We need to stop pushing a vaccine on the young and healthy. Give it to the at-risk population who may not survive the antibody-giving bout of Corona to begin with. Let the young get their virus and go back to living large.
Because if these reports prove out to be true, the vaccine is literally hurting people who shouldn't have taken it.
Literally.

But never mind that.
Probably just anecdotal evidence.

So let's listen to bgz. he's wicked smart. He's told us many times.
He may even have been recipient of a certain phone call.






Full disclosure: I know the vaccine works. We should give it to everyone who is at risk. And anyone else who simply wants it for their own piece of mind. Science be damned.
But stop hurting our kids. Stop mandating an unnecessary injection that will create future weakness towards future variants. Let nature do her thing.

This isn't polio or measles/mumps/rubella. Those diseases hurt kids. So we vaccinate the kids.
Covid doesn't. But the media and fauci have convinced people we still need to vaccinate them.
Stupid F*cks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IBo1KvNSX4

Remember Sweden did not lock down or have overly restrictive mandates? Anyone wonder how they did, or how they're doing?

I don't know the answer yet. Old adults... no brainer. Kids are a tougher decission.

That's right, it's not their body, it's not their choice...get them kids the jab!
Tell them they have to take the jab like an adult or get BANNED From Society like an adult!!

https://youtu.be/N1LAyEO1zGI

OMG!! Tailgater is advocating for super spreader events among children!!

OH! The HUGE MANATEE!!