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glue used to attach cigar bands to coolerdor lid
skillett Offline
#1 Posted:
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what kind of glue did you use and are you satisfied with outcome?

thanks.

JImmy
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted:
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Gorilla glue is what I use on my hair.
MACS Offline
#3 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Gorilla glue is what I use on my hair.


I thought you used spunk... like There's Something about Mary. LOL
DrafterX Offline
#4 Posted:
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freak... Mellow
Smooth light Offline
#5 Posted:
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Now it's ready for the spray paint.
BuckyB93 Offline
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Generally the plastic used for coolers is polypropylene or polyethylene. Both are hard (that's what she said) to glue to. Look for a glue that claims they stick to these types of plastic. SuperGlue, Crazy glue, some Gorilla glues... would be your best bet (these are cyanoacrylate type of glues, should say on back of the bottle/tube in fine print).

Don't use standard Gorilla glue. It's a polyurethane glue - reacts with ambient water in the air or surfaces and expands/foams while it cures. Good stuff for porous materials like wood, not smooth stuff like plastics or metal.

Even using a Superglue type (cyanoacrylate) or some epoxies, they won't really "bond" to the cooler. Your best shot is rough up the surface a bit so the glue has grooves to bite into. It's not so much as chemically bonding, it's more giving the glue grooves to mechanically wedge itself into it. Thin double sided sticky tape might work too but again, scuff up the surface to give the tape some grooves to bite into.
8trackdisco Offline
#7 Posted:
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Getting a bunch of cigar bands affixed to a soccer ball, interested to see how it turns out.
ZRX1200 Offline
#8 Posted:
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^you finally found a pair?
Stogie1020 Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
^you finally found a pair?

he did say "soccer" so not likely...
8trackdisco Offline
#10 Posted:
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#8… ouch!
#9… ouch!

The old 1 2 I got there. Good work, gentleman.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Someone had to do it…
Stogie1020 Offline
#12 Posted:
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Glad I could help. See you on the next one, ZRX.
8trackdisco Offline
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You guys need a tag team name.
BuckyB93 Offline
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Scared
ZRX1200 Offline
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DegenerationZRX

Fudd Wackers

The Lackluster Jailbirds

The Two Horsemen
cacman Offline
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Try mod podge
Stogie1020 Offline
#17 Posted:
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I think I like where this is going.

I smell a sitcom!
ZRX1200 Offline
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Bud-com
delta1 Offline
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Stogie1020 wrote:
I think I like where this is going.

I smell a sitcom!


you forgot the "h"
rfenst Offline
#20 Posted:
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skillett wrote:
what kind of glue did you use and are you satisfied with outcome?

thanks.

JImmy

Thunder Gerbil will know. Ping him...
rfenst Offline
#21 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Gorilla glue is what I use on my hair.

Gorilla Glue #4?
skillett Offline
#22 Posted:
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WELL, AFTER ALL THE A-HOLES AND NIT WITS PLAYED HERE FOR AWHILE - WHAT IS THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION OR AM I TO ASSUME NO ONE KNOWS.


JIMMY
Sunoverbeach Offline
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See #6 from Bucky. Prolly the best you'll get
HockeyDad Offline
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skillett wrote:
WELL, AFTER ALL THE A-HOLES AND NIT WITS PLAYED HERE FOR AWHILE - WHAT IS THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION OR AM I TO ASSUME NO ONE KNOWS.


JIMMY


It’s the fetzer valve
Abrignac Offline
#25 Posted:
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skillett wrote:
WELL, AFTER ALL THE A-HOLES AND NIT WITS PLAYED HERE FOR AWHILE - WHAT IS THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION OR AM I TO ASSUME NO ONE KNOWS.


JIMMY


I’d assume that no one else here has neither the time nor the inclination to be bothered with such a trivial matter. Consider yourself a true visionary and pathfinder. Pat yourself on the back and make me a sammich.
BuckyB93 Offline
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Again, the plastics used in most all hard sided coolers are polypropylene and polyethylene. By their very nature they are hard to bond to using just about any adhesive. That one of their benefits for their use in applications for things like coolers and storage containers - $#it don't stick so its easy to clean, hard to stain, slickery (technical term meaning slick and slippery).

Bonding these materials to other materials and even to themselves is difficult. Bonding them to themselves typically require them to be welded - heat up the mating surfaces and smoosh them together (smoosh is another technical term meaning... smoosh).

They are not like PVC where you can put on a primer and PVC glue. These are solvents that chemically soften the skin of substrate and the bonding happens by mushing or smooshing the two parts together and waiting for the solvent to evaporate.

There are some primers out there that can be used to prep the surface of polypropylene and polyethylene prior to applying the SuperGlue but I haven't had much luck with this combo for long term adhesion. If my suggestions of physically roughing up the surface to give it some "tooth" so the adhesive has places to key into don't work for you (again, I haven't had much luck for long term adhesion this way either), you could always try what industries use for surface prep: flame, corona, or plasma treatment. It'd cost a few thousands of bucks for the equipment though.

Here's a little sumptin', supmptin' on methods of bonding to polypropylene and polyethylene.
https://www.permabond.com/resource-center/comparing-flame-corona-plasma-treatment/

If that didn't answer your question, then I don't know what to tell you.

In summary, best bet is to skuff up the surface and try Super glue or two sided sticky tape. I'd go with the two sided sticky tape, the Super glue might ruin the cigar bands.
RMAN4443 Offline
#27 Posted:
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I use DUCT TAPE....can't really see the cigar bands, but damn,
those things are stuck to that cooler...

On the plus side, DUCT TAPE comes in many colors and patterns...
really makes your cooler colorful and pretty...ThumpUp
skillett Offline
#28 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
I’d assume that no one else here has neither the time nor the inclination to be bothered with such a trivial matter. Consider yourself a true visionary and pathfinder. Pat yourself on the back and make me a sammich.



just another dimwit uneducated answer dummy. pat yourself on the back, you won the trophy for stupidity.
Herfing Herfing Herfing Frying pan Frying pan
skillett Offline
#29 Posted:
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I'll just assume no one knows or have the ability to spread any good dependable information regarding glue. Thanks for nothing.

Never have been impressed with the members here. first though they were kids, then uneducated migrant workers elated to be on the internet..
skillett Offline
#30 Posted:
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Again, the plastics used in most all hard sided coolers are polypropylene and polyethylene. By their very nature they are hard to bond to using just about any adhesive. That one of their benefits for their use in applications for things like coolers and storage containers - $#it don't stick so its easy to clean, hard to stain, slickery (technical term meaning slick and slippery).

Bonding these materials to other materials and even to themselves is difficult. Bonding them to themselves typically require them to be welded - heat up the mating surfaces and smoosh them together (smoosh is another technical term meaning... smoosh).

They are not like PVC where you can put on a primer and PVC glue. These are solvents that chemically soften the skin of substrate and the bonding happens by mushing or smooshing the two parts together and waiting for the solvent to evaporate.

There are some primers out there that can be used to prep the surface of polypropylene and polyethylene prior to applying the SuperGlue but I haven't had much luck with this combo for long term adhesion. If my suggestions of physically roughing up the surface to give it some "tooth" so the adhesive has places to key into don't work for you (again, I haven't had much luck for long term adhesion this way either), you could always try what industries use for surface prep: flame, corona, or plasma treatment. It'd cost a few thousands of bucks for the equipment though.

Here's a little sumptin', supmptin' on methods of bonding to polypropylene and polyethylene.
https://www.permabond.com/resource-center/comparing-flame-corona-plasma-treatment/

If that didn't answer your question, then I don't know what to tell you.

In summary, best bet is to skuff up the surface and try Super glue or two sided sticky tape. I'd go with the two sided sticky tape, the Super glue might ruin the cigar bands.





Thank you sir for the advice. Much appreciated. 'Again, thanks a lot.
JImmy
Smooth light Offline
#31 Posted:
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Skillett if you could just read the labels on the glue package, before you asked, we know when you just lazy, stop whining and go back to your room, and do your homework.
HockeyDad Offline
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skillett wrote:
I'll just assume no one knows or have the ability to spread any good dependable information regarding glue. Thanks for nothing.

Never have been impressed with the members here. first though they were kids, then uneducated migrant workers elated to be on the internet..


Uneducated migrant workers are the backbone of this county.
izonfire Offline
#33 Posted:
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Poor poor skillett.
I’ve got some personal glue that will affix those cigar bands to your forehead…
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