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A Dishonest Afghanistan Accounting
rfenst Offline
#1 Posted:
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Biden spins a tragedy for U.S. interests into an antiwar victory.

WSJ Editorial Board

American Presidents must make hard decisions, and we’re inclined to support them when they do so overseas in the national interest. But President Biden’s defiant, accusatory defense on Tuesday of his Afghanistan withdrawal and its execution was so dishonest, and so lacking in self-reflection or accountability, that it was unworthy of the sacrifices Americans have made in that conflict.

The charitable interpretation is that this is what Mr. Biden really believes about Afghanistan in particular, war in general, and how to defend the U.S. The uncharitable view is that he and his advisers have decided that the only way out of this debacle is to lie about it, blame everyone else, and claim that defeat is really a victory. Neither one is reassuring about Mr. Biden’s character, his judgment, or—most ominously—the long three-and-a-half years left in his Presidency.

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Start with the dishonesty, although we only have space to cover some of the falsehoods. Mr. Biden again claimed he was hamstrung by Donald Trump’s bad deal with the Taliban.

Mr. Trump’s deal was rotten, but as a new President he could have altered it as he has so much else that Mr. Trump did. The Trump deal was based on the Taliban fulfilling conditions—such as negotiating a deal with the Afghan government—that they had already broken when Mr. Biden became President. Yet Mr. Biden claims he was both a prisoner of that deal and courageous for fulfilling it.

He also repeated that his only choices were total withdrawal or “escalation” with thousands of troops. His own advisers offered him alternatives in between, as did the Afghanistan Study Group. He was so bent on withdrawal, and so quickly, that he refused to adjust the military plan even as the Taliban made gains and the CIA warned that the Afghan government was likely to fall.

Mr. Biden described the evacuation as if it were a triumph, and that his Administration had planned for such a contingency in case the Afghan military collapsed. This is, literally, unbelievable. Multiple media reports have revealed that the White House was caught by surprise and preparing for vacation en masse when Kabul fell. The military had to scramble and stage a heroic effort to evacuate those who were able to get to the airport. Mr. Biden wants to take credit for putting out the fire he started.

The President even had the ill grace to blame Americans for not leaving Afghanistan sooner, and Afghans for not fighting. But his own government clearly felt no urgency, as the U.S. Embassy had to frantically destroy documents in the final hours. As for the Afghans, he demeans the sacrifice of the 66,000 who died fighting the Taliban, often next to Americans. They collapsed when they lost air support as the U.S. contractors left and after the military abandoned Bagram Air Base in the dead of night.

Most dishonest—and dangerous—was the President’s assertion that “the war in Afghanistan is now over.” No one in the jihadist movement believes that. The Taliban have won a major victory in the long war that Islamic radicals are waging against the U.S. They have secured Afghanistan for what is likely again to become a refuge for recruits for al Qaeda, ISIS-K and the Haqqani network.

Mr. Biden wants Americans to believe that the U.S. can counter this from “over the horizon,” by which he means drones and satellites. But now the U.S. has no military in the country, and no CIA listening post in Khost. It has no friendly government or allies to locate and gather intelligence on terror camps. The U.S. has all of those assets to counter terrorists in Yemen, Somalia, Iraq and Syria. Every expert we know says Mr. Biden’s claims of easy over-the-horizon capability are a fantasy.

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The President finished his remarks with a discourse on the horrors of war, which no one denies. But in laying out the costs, and the human tragedies, he also sends a signal to the world about his own resolve. He is telling rogues and autocrats that he lacks the will to send American soldiers into harm’s way. He will conduct his counterterror war only from a distance, with unmanned drones.

Those are useful and can save American lives. But they are no substitute for soldiers on the ground who can capture or kill the likes of bin Laden, or rescue Americans held hostage. The hard men in Beijing, Moscow, Tehran and the terror dens of Helmand will test Mr. Biden’s war-weariness.

Mr. Biden’s unapologetic speech also signals that the White House intends to close the books on Afghanistan and pivot to domestic affairs. No one will lose their jobs. They’ll all talk from the same script. Mr. Biden may never speak of it again. All the more reason for Congress and the press to explore the many bad decisions that led to this American security debacle.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Mr. Biden’s unapologetic speech also signals that the White House intends to close the books on Afghanistan and pivot to domestic affairs. No one will lose their jobs. They’ll all talk from the same script. Mr. Biden may never speak of it again. All the more reason for Congress and the press to explore the many bad decisions that led to this American security debacle.



Ain't nobody letting him off like that. This cycle is gonna be the gift that keeps on giving.

The Gold Star families of the 13 need more air time. We need to make sure that we don't let Biden use US taxpayer money to pay off ransoms for the Americans trapped behind Taliban lines.

The Surrender Monkey can't just cry "I won" and walk away. That crazy **** is gonna pay for his dementia!
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US-Made Armored Vehicles Supplied To Afghan Government Forces Spotted In Iran




On September 1, Iranian sources shared photos showing at least ten US-made Humvee armored vehicles being transported on the Semnan-Garmsar highway in northern Iran.

The armored vehicles, which bear the markings of the now-defunct Afghan government forces, were loaded on the back of trucks with Iranian military license plates. The convoy reportedly took off from the northeastern Iranian city of Mashhad.

US-Made Armored Vehicles Supplied To Afghan Government Forces Spotted In Iran (Photos)
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US-Made Armored Vehicles Supplied To Afghan Government Forces Spotted In Iran (Photos)
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US-Made Armored Vehicles Supplied To Afghan Government Forces Spotted In Iran (Photos)
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US-Made Armored Vehicles Supplied To Afghan Government Forces Spotted In Iran (Photos)
Click to see full-size image. Source: t.me/army_ir

US-Made Armored Vehicles Supplied To Afghan Government Forces Spotted In Iran (Photos)
Click to see full-size image. Source: t.me/army_ir

US-Made Armored Vehicles Supplied To Afghan Government Forces Spotted In Iran (Photos)
Click to see full-size image. Source: t.me/army_ir


Some observers speculated that the Humvees were taken from Afghan troops who fled from western Afghanistan to Iran in order to avoid being captured by the Taliban between July and August.

Nevertheless, the Iranian “Military Articles” channel on Telegram, which was among the first to share photos of the Humvees, claimed that they were “bought” from the Taliban.

These armored vehicles will likely enter service with the Iranian Armed Forces, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps or be sent to Tehran’s allies in the Middle East.

While taking over Afghanistan in the last few months, Taliban fighters seized billions-worth of military equipment, including hundreds of Humvees, which were supplied by the US to Afghan government forces.

According to the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction, the US supplied a total of 1,178 Humvee armored vehicles to Afghan government forces with a cost of $275,580,902 between April of 2020 and July of 2021 only.

Most of the equipment supplied by the US to Afghan government forces fell into the hands of the Taliban, the de-facto rulers of Afghanistan. The remaining equipment ended up in a way or another in Afghanistan’s neighboring countries, mainly Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and Iran, or with the Afghan resistance in the Panjshir Valley.

US forces and their Afghan proxies sabotaged or destroys loads of military equipment, including aircraft, in Kabul airport before completing their withdrawal on August 30.


https://southfront.org/us-made-armored-vehicles-supplied-to-afghan-government-forces-spotted-in-iran-photos/



So much for the Pentagon and the Secretary of Defense's claims that they "dismantled and rendered inoperable" the vehicles left behind!!!!

Anyone still believe this clown car administration? When will people start seeing the facts with their own eyes! We've been lied to and let down at the highest levels. There's withdrawing and then there's running away. Biden ran away. This is ALL on him. ALL OF IT! People that supported this buffoon...you knew he was stupid to begin with. The "He wasn't Trump" argument doesn't hold. Culpability for national security is warranted. The President was warned multiple times as far back as April that this was EXACTLY what was going to happen. There are Americans still trapped in Afghanistan.
RayR Offline
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DMV, this debacle can be interpreted as a conspiracy, a planned effort to give aid and comfort to enemies of the U.S., therefore the very definition of treason, or it is as simple as...

Yes, the Left is that Stupid
September 2, 2021
By J.R. Dunn


Quote:
We’ve been hearing a lot of speculation that the Afghan debacle is more than it seems – that rather than being a typical outcome of activity by some of the dumbest, most ill-informed, and most blinkered individuals ever to occupy places in the U.S government, it is instead a dark, convoluted conspiracy aimed at some goal sinister beyond words.

Some of this is from the usual suspects who see conspiracies every time a cat falls out of a tree, and some by more reputable people. The core concept here can be expressed simply: “There has to be something else going on. Nobody could be that stupid.”

Ah, my dear naïve children of the Springtime… I’m afraid that your first encounter with the real world remains before you.

It’s easy to see where such a conclusion comes from. The mindboggling nature of the decisions made and actions taken by Biden, Milley, and Austin et al speak for themselves: closing down your major base because the enemy asked you to… depriving your ally of technical and maintenance support, rendering all your high-tech weapons useless… leaving billions of dollars worth of military hardware to be scooped up by the enemy… attempting to send them billions more in cash… handing the enemy a list of the names (and presumably addresses) of the exact people he most wants to kill… leaving security in the hands of an enemy that more than anything in the world wants to embarrass, humiliate, and kill you…

At this point, we only need to turn to the words of French avant-gardist Jean Cocteau, which I translate as, “No matter how many times you deal with it, stupidity is always astonishing.”

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https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/09/yes_the_left_is_that_stupid.html

DrMaddVibe Offline
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He doesn't get to move on...EVER!

The DNC Surrender Monkey is a LIAR!
rfenst Offline
#6 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
He doesn't get to move on...EVER!

The DNC Surrender Monkey is a LIAR!

Ya'll need to move on. U.S. will be funding the Taliban to fight ISIS and other enemies of the U.S.in a few years. More money and maybe even munitions and parts to come in the next few years.
Krazeehorse Offline
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Just because Joe (the most qualified candidate regarding foreign policy) effed up royally don't worry about him doing the same thing with domestic policy. (sarcasm alert)
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Krazeehorse wrote:
Just because Joe (the most qualified candidate regarding foreign policy) effed up royally don't worry about him doing the same thing with domestic policy. (sarcasm alert)



That is what you get when the left wing media elects the president.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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And Zuck funds it!
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