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Biden’s Vaccine Command
bgz Offline
#51 Posted:
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RobertHively wrote:
Gotcha. 98.2% of the time I get the joke, but I really thought you were being serious. Good one.



Yeah, we watched that one kinda fly over your head.
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#52 Posted:
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So why the need for a vaccine, much less a mandate, for a virus that is about as deadly as the seasonal flu?

The question I always ask myself is, what is in this shot that they want me to have?

It's certainly not about efficacy. Israel is overwhelmed with virus at the moment. 90%+ of the people that are sick have had either 2 or 3 doses. It makes me think that the vaccine is what is making them sick.........
bgz Offline
#53 Posted:
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RobertHively wrote:
So why the need for a vaccine, much less a mandate, for a virus that is about as deadly as the seasonal flu?

The question I always ask myself is, what is in this shot that they want me to have?

It's certainly not about efficacy. Israel is overwhelmed with virus at the moment. 90%+ of the people that are sick have had either 2 or 3 doses. It makes me think that the vaccine is what is making them sick.........


Nano sex bots that replicate over time.

When they get strong enough in numbers, they go non-binary and then infiltrate your nervous system where it systematically turns you into a commie lizard people.
RayR Offline
#54 Posted:
Joined: 07-20-2020
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rfenst wrote:
1. Why do you refer to me as Herr?

2. The purpose was ideal for the times- and a good one to continue to strive for. But, reality gets in the way, for better or worse.


Would you prefer I address you by a non-gender binary pronoun?Confused I don't do those.

OK...so the traditional American principles of de-centralized limited government are good to strive for but they get in the way of progressive centralization and bigger government? Got it.Confused Glare Somehow that is supposed to be for better or worse. Mostly worse in my estimation.Brick wall





HockeyDad Offline
#55 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,065
RobertHively wrote:
So why the need for a vaccine, much less a mandate, for a virus that is about as deadly as the seasonal flu?

The question I always ask myself is, what is in this shot that they want me to have?

It's certainly not about efficacy. Israel is overwhelmed with virus at the moment. 90%+ of the people that are sick have had either 2 or 3 doses. It makes me think that the vaccine is what is making them sick.........


Gefilte fish negates the vaccine. That’s science.
rfenst Offline
#56 Posted:
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RobertHively wrote:
So why the need for a vaccine, much less a mandate, for a virus that is about as deadly as the seasonal flu?

The question I always ask myself is, what is in this shot that they want me to have?

It's certainly not about efficacy. Israel is overwhelmed with virus at the moment. 90%+ of the people that are sick have had either 2 or 3 doses. It makes me think that the vaccine is what is making them sick.........

It isn't only about death. The vaccine blunts, but admittedly does not entirely defeat Delta. Yet it still decreases the risk of hospitalization and of a bad outcome (other than death) if you get sick.

Your assessment of the number of Americans annually dying from the flu vs. covid is wrong. "61,000 people died in the worst flu season of the past decade. COVID-19 has killed eight times that many." That was as of 6 months ago. https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-die-flu/

Israel's Delta infection break-through rate is not 90+%. It is around 60% (which is not good). Moreover, in Israel "the vaccinated patients are older, unhealthy, often they were bedridden before infection, immobile and already requiring nursing care," said Noa Eliakim-Raz, head of the coronavirus ward at Rabin Medical Centre in Petach Tikva. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-doctors-find-severe-covid-19-breakthrough-cases-mostly-older-sicker-2021-08-20/ I can't find anything about the vaccine (Pfizer) actually causing covid in Israel, or anywhere else.

I am sure you have additional reasons for not wanting the vaccine and that is OK, but if that is the only data people are relying on...
rfenst Offline
#57 Posted:
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RayR wrote:
Would you prefer I address you by a non-gender binary pronoun?Confused I don't do those.

OK...so the traditional American principles of de-centralized limited government are good to strive for but they get in the way of progressive centralization and bigger government? Got it.Confused Glare Somehow that is supposed to be for better or worse. Mostly worse in my estimation.Brick wall

No, but why Herr?
rfenst Offline
#58 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Gefilte fish negates the vaccine. That’s science.

Pastrami on rye with a Dr. Brown's soda, matzoh ball soup, babka and rugelach, exponentially strengthen it!
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#59 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
It isn't only about death. The vaccine blunts, but admittedly does not entirely defeat Delta. Yet it still decreases the risk of hospitalization and of a bad outcome (other than death) if you get sick.

Your assessment of the number of Americans annually dying from the flu vs. covid is wrong. "61,000 people died in the worst flu season of the past decade. COVID-19 has killed eight times that many." That was as of 6 months ago. https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-die-flu/

Israel's Delta infection break-through rate is not 90+%. It is around 60% (which is not good). Moreover, in Israel "the vaccinated patients are older, unhealthy, often they were bedridden before infection, immobile and already requiring nursing care," said Noa Eliakim-Raz, head of the coronavirus ward at Rabin Medical Centre in Petach Tikva. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-doctors-find-severe-covid-19-breakthrough-cases-mostly-older-sicker-2021-08-20/ I can't find anything about the vaccine (Pfizer) actually causing covid in Israel, or anywhere else.

I am sure you have additional reasons for not wanting the vaccine and that is OK, but if that is the only data people are relying on...


I pay close attention to Israel bc they are at the forefront of human vaccine experimentation. They're on their fourth dose and the doctors I've listened to (just a few) say it's a pandemic of the vaccinated, which is the complete opposite of what they're saying here.

Also old age, comorbidities etc- the reasons Vax'd people are dying according to the doc you quoted, are the same reasons I don't believe the Covid death count in the U.S. There is financial and political incentive for people to die of Covid as opposed to with Covid, but not if they've been vaccinated. If they die with the vax then it's old age etc

Like you mentioned to Hockeydad in another thread, it just depends on what flavor of news you like. There is very little objective reporting "in these times". It's mainly politics. Take VAERS for example, if you look there have been thousands of vaccine deaths and injuries and supposedly only 1% of all injuries get reported. They could be lying, who knows, but health care providers stopped administering the Swine Flu Vax in 2009 because of 26 deaths. Why continue with the mrna vax when we know it's killed more people than that and injured even more. Imo it's about the money and control, not about health.

But I appreciate your serious answer, that's more than BGZ and Hockeydad could muster. Lol


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#60 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
Nano sex bots that replicate over time.

When they get strong enough in numbers, they go non-binary and then infiltrate your nervous system where it systematically turns you into a commie lizard people.


Lol I would have guessed profits and control. I think you been hanging with Ray too much.
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#61 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Gefilte fish negates the vaccine. That’s science.


TW Pm'd you the Israeli gelfilte fish model too? The predictions are bleak.

That bassard told me that I was the only person to truly get to know what's going down over there.
HockeyDad Offline
#62 Posted:
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CigarBid don’t pay me for serious answers.
RobertHively Offline
#63 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
CigarBid don’t pay me for serious answers.


Your answers are good with me, hilarious in fact.
RayR Offline
#64 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
No, but why Herr?


When you were joking with Z awhile back he called you Doctor Lawyer, and you said it was "Herr Fehr Doctor Fenster".Angel
RayR Offline
#65 Posted:
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RobertHively wrote:
Lol I would have guessed profits and control. I think you been hanging with Ray too much.


Hey! Don't blame me for Ben, he's the evil troll.
bgz Offline
#66 Posted:
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RayR wrote:
Hey! Don't blame me for Ben, he's the evil troll.


RayRay wishes he was could be more like me. Evil is freedom, Trolling is liberating.

Two things you proclaim to like yes?
rfenst Offline
#67 Posted:
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RayR wrote:
When you were joking with Z awhile back he called you Doctor Lawyer, and you said it was "Herr Fehr Doctor Fenster".Angel

RayR

You are correct. I did do that (in sarcasm). I sincerely regret it deeply. I will never do that again. I do not like being referred to as Herr, plain and simple. Just switch to adressing me with another derogatory term (if you must). I have zero problem with that.

My explanation (not an excuse) is the thread's multiple repetition of U.S. government efforts to encourage/require vaccination at the time being compared to Nazism. You preceded this with a horrible thread titled something to the effect of: This Is What It Must Have Been Like When The Nazis Hunted Down Jews, a terrible, highly disturbing, thing, for most Jews such as myself to contemplate. Again, this is not an excuse, but just context. You appear have done nothing wrong, given my self-reference.

So, I will never refer to myself again as Herr, even in sarcasm, in the same way that I simply ask that no matter our differences you not refer to me (or any of the Jews on this site) as Herr.

Yes, I am butt-hurt, as you commonly use the term, but do see how the fault was mine.

rfenst
BuckyB93 Offline
#68 Posted:
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sixty 8 serving up a....
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#69 Posted:
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Sixty nine
BuckyB93 Offline
#70 Posted:
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BOOM!

But it's got to be in capitals followed with an !

Example: (sumptin, sumpin' NINE!)

We have rules ya' know
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