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How to Destroy America in One Easy Step?
zitotczito Offline
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Elect a Brain Dead Incompetent Buffoon like Biden. that's how. To the Biden voters, all the dead thank you.
DrafterX Offline
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Biden sucks... Mellow
CelticBomber Offline
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zitotczito wrote:
Elect a Brain Dead Incompetent Buffoon like Biden. that's how. To the Biden voters, all the dead thank you.


The dead are thanking us? My people have come home to the promised land! It's time for you heathens to pay! Zombie Lives Matter!

Now, we just need brains to keep going... uhoh... we're screwed. d'oh!
Sunoverbeach Offline
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Nah. Ya never needed 'em previously. You'll be fine
CelticBomber Offline
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Nah. Ya never needed 'em previously. You'll be fine


Hah! We need a rim shot emoji!
bgz Online
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The sky has been falling ever since I can remember... no reason for it to stop now.
RayR Offline
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I heard Brain Dead Biden say he's a CAPITALIST! You gotta be kidding, I was ROTFL!
Then he channeled O'Bummer and said rich people need to pay their fair share of Marxist Taxes. I mean...Com'on Man! The guy cracks me up! LOL LOL LOL

Then I heard the Wicked Witch of the West say capitalism 'has not served our economy as well as it should'. Yes we know Nancy, honest capitalism is a bummer because Crony Capitalism is more your game and has served your family and donors well.
Then she channeled Karl Marx and said "our economic system" has helped some people thrive from the "exploitation" of workers and the environment.LOL LOL LOL

Progtard lizard people talking down to total morons
fiddler898 Offline
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RayR wrote:


Progtard lizard people talking down to total morons


Think you just pwned yourself.
RayR Offline
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So fiddler...were you butthurt when you saw yourself as a total moron in that picture?
bgz Online
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fiddler898 wrote:
Think you just pwned yourself.


If one knows they're a moron, does that make them less of a moron than one who doesn't?
Brewha Offline
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I think it would make them a moron more or less….
RayR Offline
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The real morons are the ones that haven't caught on that the likes of Biden and Pelosi consider them to be morons and deserve to be spoken to as such.
frankj1 Offline
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ray, even ardent supporters of virtually any politician (except Trumpers) know what happens as the bastids settle in, but as rfenster keeps trying to explain to you, 98.2% of the people are dedicated to making things work for themselves and loved ones once they realize what the rules are, fair or not...like paper money, for example.

Great, you win, we know it has no intrinsic value. But it's still taken in trade for goods and services everywhere (that matters) in the entire world. Even you have to trade your gold bullions in for paper if you want to buy a cigar at the shpo.

Though consider the concept of "value" in a capitalist (or even socialist) civilization for a moment. What is a piece of art worth? A talented Quarterback? A bowl of soup? Most of us would answer "whatever the market is willing to pay". Well, we are part of "the market" and it appears that the vast majority of the world's population is willing to accept a representative "value" of certain paper that is well above the value of the tree pulp material from which it is made. No one feels paper itself has innate qualities and properties of significance, but it's globally accepted as representing purchasing power.

Yup, crazy for sure. Hocus pocus too. Bet that you don't tear it up and throw it away though.

So we'll keep trying to amass more of it and use it until such time as you are inspired to leave the discount cigar forum you use a pulpit and lead the world to share your valid conclusions about reintroducing precious metals as currency.

This may require you put on pants and leave the basement...but we will support your efforts. (try to laugh, it won't hurt)


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Smooth light Offline
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Morons know and just keep on following, mutants just sit and smile and blink.
Brewha Offline
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And the fool is the twin of the wise, as the horse rides side saddle into the day of night with the song of the antelope as company.
CelticBomber Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
lead the world to share your valid conclusions about reintroducing precious metals as currency.


I don't see his posts anymore but, if he's arguing for returning to the gold standard or any precious metal standard I'm glad he's here and not out there where someone will take him seriously. Getting off the silver/gold standard immediately opened up our economy and raised more people out of poverty than anything anyone's ever done in the history of human beings.

Keep thumping your crazy pulpit here! Frying pan
bgz Online
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Ya... gold no fun anyway... it moves slower than Celtic after a bowl of cap'n crunch.
HockeyDad Offline
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CelticBomber wrote:
I don't see his posts anymore but, if he's arguing for returning to the gold standard or any precious metal standard I'm glad he's here and not out there where someone will take him seriously. Getting off the silver/gold standard immediately opened up our economy and raised more people out of poverty than anything anyone's ever done in the history of human beings.

Keep thumping your crazy pulpit here! Frying pan


In 1970 before dropping the gold standard, poverty was 13% and now was 11.4% in 2020. That doesn’t sound like raising more people out of poverty than anything anyone's ever done in the history of human beings. #winning
tonygraz Offline
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Or you could say it reduced poverty by 12.3%. But in reality the coefficient of correlation between the gold standard and poverty should be pretty minimal.
RayR Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
In 1970 before dropping the gold standard, poverty was 13% and now was 11.4% in 2020. That doesn’t sound like raising more people out of poverty than anything anyone's ever done in the history of human beings. #winning


Celtic's got a progtard education.
I guess he thinks inflation and gubment debt makes everybody richer so why would we proles need a sound monetary system? Our wise overlords care about us and want to protect our purchasing power, don't they? I guess he thinks people weren't pulled up out of poverty when gold was money like during the Industrial Revolution?

I'm not even sure at what point in time Celtic thinks the U.S. got off the silver/gold standard.
Was it when Tricky ****** reneged on the Bretton Woods Agreement (pseudo gold standard) announcing his New Economic Policy on August 15, 1971, Da program “to create a new prosperity without war.” Ya, that worked out well, the 70's were great, we haven't been in a war since and there hasn't been another financial disaster either?

Or was it FDR's Great Gold Robbery of 1933?
https://mises.org/library/great-gold-robbery-1933

Maybe some other phase during the 20th Century? WTF knows what he's talking about.




bgz Online
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RayR wrote:
Celtic's got a progtard education.
I guess he thinks inflation and gubment debt makes everybody richer so why would we proles need a sound monetary system? Our wise overlords care about us and want to protect our purchasing power, don't they? I guess he thinks people weren't pulled up out of poverty when gold was money like during the Industrial Revolution?

I'm not even sure at what point in time Celtic thinks the U.S. got off the silver/gold standard.
Was it when Tricky ****** reneged on the Bretton Woods Agreement (pseudo gold standard) announcing his New Economic Policy on August 15, 1971, Da program “to create a new prosperity without war.” Ya, that worked out well, the 70's were great, we haven't been in a war since and there hasn't been another financial disaster either?

Or was it FDR's Great Gold Robbery of 1933?
https://mises.org/library/great-gold-robbery-1933

Maybe some other phase during the 20th Century? WTF knows what he's talking about.



Well, hopefully you got a handful of "honest money"... I hope you hold it till it dips harder than a baseball player from the 70s... then I'll buy it from you.

You have this thing in your head that prevents you from seeing "other money", all you see is... bad FDR, f*ck my grandparents out of their gold. Gold good... anything else, bad!!!

That's all I see... Same tiring sh*t... I imagine you being broke or sitting on a hoard that your grandparents gave you... one of the two... I mean people with money don't b*tch as much as you right?

All money really is is an agreed upon metric of exchange. That's it.

You make it more complicated than it needs to be... not to mention you're f*ckin wrong... sh*t hits the fan, gold is just as worthless as the porcelain toilet you sh*t on.
HockeyDad Offline
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I’m doing two bathroom remodels right now and these porcelain toilets are not worthless!
RayR Offline
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bgz wrote:
Well, hopefully you got a handful of "honest money"... I hope you hold it till it dips harder than a baseball player from the 70s... then I'll buy it from you.

You have this thing in your head that prevents you from seeing "other money", all you see is... bad FDR, f*ck my grandparents out of their gold. Gold good... anything else, bad!!!

That's all I see... Same tiring sh*t... I imagine you being broke or sitting on a hoard that your grandparents gave you... one of the two... I mean people with money don't b*tch as much as you right?

All money really is is an agreed upon metric of exchange. That's it.

You make it more complicated than it needs to be... not to mention you're f*ckin wrong... sh*t hits the fan, gold is just as worthless as the porcelain toilet you sh*t on.


Blah...Blah...Blah...

Got it Ben, everything is cool in the Matrix, just take the blue pill, keep yourself plugged in, Matrix money rules, nothing bad will happen with the agreed-upon monopoly metric of exchange.
Keep on trolling for your overlords!

Oh wait...there's trouble in the Matrix, corruption at the FED has been exposed, high-ranking Fed money magicians have been accused of being involved in corruption! Chairman Powell is in damage control mode. "Fed chairman Jerome Powell has decided the Fed ought to “review” its ethics policies after it was revealed that high-ranking personnel at the Fed were actively trading stocks even as the Fed was busy pulling the levers on monetary policy. CNBC reported today: Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell directed staff to review the central bank’s ethics rules".

Are you shocked? No one who really knows anything about central banking is surprised, corruption goes hand in hand with central banksters. Those first two central banks in the U.S. were shut down for that very reason.

You’ll Be Shocked the Learn There’s Corruption at the Fed
https://austrian.economicblogs.org/mises-us/2021/mcmaken-youll-corruption-fed/
RayR Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I’m doing two bathroom remodels right now and these porcelain toilets are not worthless!


Ben has no concept of the value of hard commodities.
bgz Online
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You buy used toilets?
tonygraz Offline
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If they are not used, why install them. You could gold plate them.
RayR Offline
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bgz wrote:
You buy used toilets?


HockeyDad maybe has better knowledge of the value of porcelain toilets, but you'd be surprised at the hard commodities that are a superior store of value than those depreciating Federal Reserve Debt Notes.
HockeyDad Offline
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bgz wrote:
You buy used toilets?


I’ll have two used toilets to sell once demolition starts. Any buyers?

One of you “greenies” should repurpose these toilets to help save the planet.
rfenst Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I’m doing two bathroom remodels right now and these porcelain toilets are not worthless!

If they are the old ones that don't conserve water, people will pay well for them. I got $100 for one when we remodeled 10-12 years ago.
HockeyDad Offline
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rfenst wrote:
If they are the old ones that don't conserve water, people will pay well for them. I got $100 for one when we remodeled 10-12 years ago.


Pretty hard to find a non low flush toilet out here. You can’t get any building permit to remodel without replacing the toilets and can’t sell a house with them. I think if they catch you with one they’ll arrest you. You can shoplift $1000 in merchandise, shoot heroin on the streets, and punch an old Asian dude and you’re fine but you don’t want to get caught with a non low flow toilet.
rfenst Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
Pretty hard to find a non low flush toilet out here. You can’t get any building permit to remodel without replacing the toilets and can’t sell a house with them. I think if they catch you with one they’ll arrest you. You can shoplift $1000 in merchandise, shoot heroin on the streets, and punch an old Asian dude and you’re fine but you don’t want to get caught with a non low flow toilet.

So, come back to Florida whenever you get done there.
HockeyDad Offline
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rfenst wrote:
So, come back to Florida whenever you get done there.


I’m thinking 4 more years here then move to a no state income tax state and wifey retires.

It could be Florida if enough people get ‘Rona but I feel like I’m being oversold on the real estate opportunity. From the news out here, 80% of Florida is dead thanks to that **** Desantis.
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HockeyDad wrote:
I’m thinking 4 more years here then move to a no state income tax state and wifey retires.

It could be Florida if enough people get ‘Rona but I feel like I’m being oversold on the real estate opportunity. From the news out here, 80% of Florida is dead thanks to that **** Desantis.


Yeah... we've got homeless encampments literally miles and miles long, they must be exempt from the 'Rona... and Desantis is doing things wrong... can't make this stuff up.

Newsom is an absolute failure... and a hypocrite... and they voted to keep him. Retards.
rfenst Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I’m thinking 4 more years here then move to a no state income tax state and wifey retires.

It could be Florida if enough people get ‘Rona but I feel like I’m being oversold on the real estate opportunity. From the news out here, 80% of Florida is dead thanks to that **** Desantis.

IMNSHO, you are reading the right newspapers if they are damning Desantis. But, your probably just joking. LOL!

Orlando's home supply is still too low and demand is still too high, but that will change when the Fed stops buying mortgages and interest rates rise. Another factor is that more people are newly listing their homes right now.

Florida just might be a great deal for a cash buyer in four years...
HockeyDad Offline
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rfenst wrote:
IMNSHO, you are reading the right newspapers if they are damning Desantis. But, your probably just joking. LOL!

Orlando's home supply is still too low and demand is still too high, but that will change when the Fed stops buying mortgages and interest rates rise. Another factor is that more people are newly listing their homes right now.

Florida just might be a great deal for a cash buyer in four years...


I’m hearing that Desantis guy sucks. Here in California where we know how to get things done, we lead the nation in unemployment, homelessness, Covid deaths, Covid cases, and number of Democrats. We are **** ing leaders!
HockeyDad Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Orlando's home supply is still too low and demand is still too high, but that will change when the Fed stops buying mortgages and interest rates rise. Another factor is that more people are newly listing their homes right now.

Florida just might be a great deal for a cash buyer in four years...


‘Rona was supposed to fix the supply side.
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HockeyDad wrote:
In 1970 before dropping the gold standard, poverty was 13% and now was 11.4% in 2020. That doesn’t sound like raising more people out of poverty than anything anyone's ever done in the history of human beings. #winning


You reduced the effects of moving off the Gold Standard, to a single percentage? It's not even worth discussing if that's all you see. 200+ years of social, technological and political change and your rebuttal is 1.6%.

All Nixon did was cut the last string that tied the dollar to fixed gold prices which then set exchange rates with other countries. Those fixed prices were set by the government. Gold was worth what we said it was. By the time Nixon did that you couldn't exchange all your cash for bullion because the govt made it illegal for any private citizen to own more than 5oz of bullion. It was a wink and a nod standard. We say your money is backed by gold as long as you don't actually ask us to produce that gold. Take a look at any history book that covers just the last 140 years of the US. Look at what this country was able to do as we moved farther and farther off the gold standard. The only reason the US is the US today is because Lincoln issued a fiat currency to finance the civil war. As we moved away from the gold standard everything improved because it removed a huge limit to our economy. Instead of gold limiting our economy we used laws to set limits. Then in the 1980's one party decided to add deregulation as a plank in their platform and you got the Savings and Loan scandal all the way up to the recent housing bubble. But, the sky still isn't falling and I digress. The world still turns and peoples lives continue to improve.

Standards of living, life expectancy, levels of education, access to medicine, the development of new technologies, access to capital, creating a middle class and on and on and on. All of that was able to happen because we moved off the gold standard. This didn't just happen in the US. It happened in every capitalistic country around the world that tied their economy with ours. Totally reasonable to reduce that to 1.6%... Brick wall
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HockeyDad wrote:
I’m hearing that Desantis guy sucks. Here in California where we know how to get things done, we lead the nation in unemployment, homelessness, Covid deaths, Covid cases, and number of Democrats. We are **** ing leaders!

You are the sixth largest economic state/country in the world. I have no sympathy.
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CelticBomber wrote:
You reduced the effects of moving off the Gold Standard, to a single percentage? It's not even worth discussing if that's all you see. 200+ years of social, technological and political change and your rebuttal is 1.6%.

All Nixon did was cut the last string that tied the dollar to fixed gold prices which then set exchange rates with other countries. Those fixed prices were set by the government. Gold was worth what we said it was. By the time Nixon did that you couldn't exchange all your cash for bullion because the govt made it illegal for any private citizen to own more than 5oz of bullion. It was a wink and a nod standard. We say your money is backed by gold as long as you don't actually ask us to produce that gold. Take a look at any history book that covers just the last 140 years of the US. Look at what this country was able to do as we moved farther and farther off the gold standard. The only reason the US is the US today is because Lincoln issued a fiat currency to finance the civil war. As we moved away from the gold standard everything improved because it removed a huge limit to our economy. Instead of gold limiting our economy we used laws to set limits. Then in the 1980's one party decided to add deregulation as a plank in their platform and you got the Savings and Loan scandal all the way up to the recent housing bubble. But, the sky still isn't falling and I digress. The world still turns and peoples lives continue to improve.

Standards of living, life expectancy, levels of education, access to medicine, the development of new technologies, access to capital, creating a middle class and on and on and on. All of that was able to happen because we moved off the gold standard. This didn't just happen in the US. It happened in every capitalistic country around the world that tied their economy with ours. Totally reasonable to reduce that to 1.6%... Brick wall


You said “ raising more people out of poverty than anything anyone's ever done in the history of human beings” yet the poverty level is still very close to the same.

Dropping the gold standard gave the government ways to manipulate the economy. It didn’t create the iPhone! You a ha Eva very lofty belief in the incredible powers of fiat currency.
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rfenst wrote:
You are the sixth largest economic state/country in the world. I have no sympathy.


Well we’re still going to come for a federal handout. I’m watching the repeal of the SALT tax cap.
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HockeyDad wrote:
You said “ raising more people out of poverty than anything anyone's ever done in the history of human beings” yet the poverty level is still very close to the same.

Dropping the gold standard gave the government ways to manipulate the economy. It didn’t create the iPhone! You a ha Eva very lofty belief in the incredible powers of fiat currency.



No. The poverty level is not the same. Forget the population changes. The definition of poverty isn't anywhere near the same as it was. You can't reduce it to a number. Today's poor have access to more things even the richest in the world 100 years ago didn't. That matters. We're not talking about things like phones and video games either. We're talking clean water, infrastructure access, medical care etc. etc.

The government didn't create the IPhone by manipulating the economy. What did allow for the IPhone was opening up the market in a way that freed up capital to allow a bunch of guys in their garage create one of the most valuable companies in the world today. Average guys who had access to educations and technologies that weren't possible for most people when the economy was tied to a finite resource. I'd say that's pretty incredible.
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Well how ‘bout that! We pretty much have the same percentage of poor but they are better off now as poor than they would have been before as poor. Where do they mail their “thank-you” letter for the glorious gift of fiat currency?

Average guys who had access to educations and technologies that weren't possible for most people when the economy was tied to a finite resource! Do you mean student loan debt? I heard that is a very bad thing. It needs a government fix.
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Thanks to the glorious fiat money system and the FED artificially manipulating interest rates we have more debt than anyone could have imagined when the dollar was pegged to gold. YEAH PROGRESS!

We've had FED fueled financial bubbles and busts nearly every 10 years! YEAH PROGRESS!

We've had more wars than any war profiteer could have ever dreamed of. YEAH PROGRESS!

The value of the dollar has steadily declined, something that was virtually unheard of before the FED. YEAH PROGRESS!

We've had marvelous innovations that only a Marxist could love like the progressive income tax. YEAH PROGRESS!

Celtic, you're stuck on this idea that technological advancements wouldn't have occurred at a rapid pace if we had a sound monetary system. You must have seen that in your crystal ball.

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RayR wrote:
Thanks to the glorious fiat money system and the FED artificially manipulating interest rates we have more debt than anyone could have imagined when the dollar was pegged to gold. YEAH PROGRESS!


We also have the biggest bombs!

RayR wrote:

We've had FED fueled financial bubbles and busts nearly every 10 years! YEAH PROGRESS!


Buy the dip? Duh?

Sell the bubble? No? Nothin?

RayR wrote:

We've had more wars than any war profiteer could have ever dreamed of. YEAH PROGRESS!


Again duh?

Again, we got the biggest bombs!

RayR wrote:

The value of the dollar has steadily declined, something that was virtually unheard of before the FED. YEAH PROGRESS!


A bit less than a troy ounce was worth 20 dollars. Talk about price fixing...

Take something rare and make it a fixed price, makes sense... YEAH!!!! GOLD STANDARD!!!

RayR wrote:

We've had marvelous innovations that only a Marxist could love like the progressive income tax. YEAH PROGRESS!


Pretty much all civilizations had to pay tax in one form or another.

We already know you're an anarchist though. The more I think about it, the more I think you are more a Sex Pistols kick 'em in the head type anarchist.

RayR wrote:

Celtic, you're stuck on this idea that technological advancements wouldn't have occurred at a rapid pace if we had a sound monetary system. You must have seen that in your crystal ball.


Celtic is right... and your "sound monetary system" would still be here if it actually was sound... wouldn't it.

Who ever taught you all you know didn't know wtf they were talking about... at least not about the really real world.

They got you stuck in a fantasy anarchistic utopia.
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bgz wrote:
Who ever taught you all you know didn't know wtf they were talking about... at least not about the really real world.
They got you stuck in a fantasy anarchistic utopia.

Boom!
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Q: How to Destroy America in One Easy Step?

A: Keep voting for Democrats.



The DNC really is a terrorist organization.
RayR Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Boom!


You and Ben, and Celtic also are stuck in a real world fantasy that others have created for you, you've got constructs where everything is upside down and backward, where history and the laws of economics don't apply or are non-existent, just because you don't want them to be.
You guys are blinded by what Bastiat described in his essay, That Which is Seen, and That Which is Not Seen. He described this as the difference between a bad economist and a good economist. "the one takes account of the visible effect; the other takes account both of the effects which are seen, and also of those which it is necessary to foresee. Now this difference is enormous, for it almost always happens that when the immediate consequence is favourable, the ultimate consequences are fatal, and the converse."

You can apply this to politicians also with their grand plans like that idiot Biden and his Brainless Trust of scammers, or your own thinking as well.

Ben is just an evil troll with nothing to offer so I never expect much from him. He trolls just to be ornery and disagreeable.

So what do you got...besides "Boom!"?

How about BUST!

100 Years Later, The Federal Reserve Has Failed At Everything It's Tried

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2013/12/20/100-years-later-the-federal-reserve-has-failed-at-everything-its-tried/?sh=7e84c3622a60

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You know, I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After several decades, you know what I realize?

Ignorance is bliss.
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RayR wrote:
You and Ben, and Celtic also are in a real world fantasy that others have created for you, you've got constructs where everything is upside down and backward, where history and the laws of economics don't apply or are non-existent, just because you don't want them to be.

WTF is a real world fantasy? (rhetorical question) That's an oxymoron.
As to where I am "stuck," it's working out well for me and mine.
Thank you for your insight.
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rfenst wrote:
WTF is a real world fantasy? (rhetorical question) That's an oxymoron.
As to where I am "stuck," it's working out well for me and mine.
Thank you for your insight.


Right...

Ultimately we all want fat stacks of paper... and we want to see how much we got by looking at a screen, nobody wants stacks of heavy metal... unless you're dmv... then you probably have hoard from the 80s.
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