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'Souls to the polls': Virginia churches to air pro-McAuliffe ads featuring Kamala Harris


Hundreds of churches across Virginia are set to air a political ad starring Vice President Kamala Harris — a move that has raised eyebrows regarding the legality of bringing political campaigns into houses of worship.

Between Oct. 17 and Nov. 2, a video featuring Harris will play during the morning services of over 300 black churches across Virginia. In the video, Harris encourages viewers to vote for gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe in the upcoming election, according to CNN .

"I believe that my friend Terry McAuliffe is the leader Virginia needs at this moment," Harris says in the video. "Terry McAuliffe has a long track record of getting things done for the people of Virginia."

The video is only one part of McAuliffe's religiously minded "Souls to the Polls " media blitz. The "Souls to the Polls" events will be hosted weekly and are intended to encourage residents to vote on Sundays, with the first event held on Oct. 17, according to 10 Wavy .

The announcement generated controversy on social media, with many questioning if playing the video at church violates laws against political partisanship by religious institutions.

Twitter users critical of McAuliffe pointed to the prohibitions the IRS has set for churches and asked if McAuliffe and Harris were risking the income tax exemption that any or all of the churches enjoyed. Since 1954, Congress has prohibited all 501(c)(3) organizations, including churches, from participating in political campaigns in order to maintain their exemption from income tax.

The Nov. 2 election will pit McAuliffe against GOP candidate Glenn Youngkin, who has been endorsed by former President Donald Trump .

A recent Trafalgar Group survey of 1,095 likely election voters showed Youngkin with 48.4% of the vote to McAuliffe's 47.5%, putting Youngkin in the lead for the first time.

The IRS did not immediately respond to the Washington Examiner's request for comment.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mcauliffe-ad-vice-harris-plays-in-300-black-virginia-churches?


"The separation of church and state is a philosophic and jurisprudential concept for defining political distance in the relationship between religious organizations and the state. Conceptually, the term refers to the creation of a secular state (with or without legally explicit church–state separation) and to disestablishment, the changing of an existing, formal relationship between the church and the state. Although the concept is older, the exact phrase "separation of church and state" is derived from "wall of separation between church and state", a term coined by Thomas Jefferson. The concept was promoted by Enlightenment philosophers such as Locke."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state
ZRX1200 Offline
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Washington Post didn’t talk about this, but they did mention him beating two women of color and that wasn’t a big deal Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Does sitting Gov. Coonman McBabykiller know about this?
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"During the service" definitely violates tax exempt status.
This explains many of the nuances well:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/2015/09/20/tax-rules-forbid-churches-endorsing-candidates/?sh=71bd30b964e7
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That law is not in the CONSTITUTION. But the tax exemption is for the church.
Abrignac Offline
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Smooth light wrote:
That law is not in the CONSTITUTION. But the tax exemption is for the church.


What are you talking about?
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Newton's 4th Law of Motion - When someone wants to keep on digging a bigger hole, give them a bigger shovel.

Terry McAuliffe’s terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad campaign gets WORSE as he flips out during interview, scolds reporter and storms off


Terry McAuliffe’s campaign seems to be in a world of hurt right now. From his recent ad claiming NO NO, he really does think parents should be involved in their kid’s education to his desperate attempt to tie Glenn Youngkin to January 6, his entire approach has been a hot mess.

And now this with a 7 News reporter?

https://tinyurl.com/b8ttfnyh

Whoa INDEED.

Note, before you watch the actual video of the interview keep in mind this reporter gave each candidate 20 minutes worth of questions to answer, and Youngkin sat through the entire interview.

Terrible Terry? Not so much.

Watch this:

https://tinyurl.com/53dut3cm

Awwww, wassamatta Terry?


Terry McAuliffe's terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad campaign gets WORSE as he flips out during interview, scolds reporter and storms off (watch)
Fact-checkers trying to get ahead of 'miscaptioned' photos of empty grocery store shelves

This was so awkward and cringe it was literally painful to sit through and watch it.

McAuliffe doesn’t think voters care about education and crime.

Wow, could this guy be more out of touch with Virginia?

Terry flipped out because he couldn’t lie about it.

We have all the receipts.

And if he complains about Biden that won’t play well with the VP who is coming to campaign for McAuliffe on Thursday. We only wish this reporter had asked him about her video being played in 300+ churches throughout Virginia BUT we’ll take what we can get.

Good luck.

This isn’t even about whether or not you want a Republican or a Democrat, this is about the type of person Virginia wants running the state.

A big a*s baby who throws a tantrum and storms off because he didn’t like a question has no business being governor, anywhere.

Full transcript and video here: https://t.co/DKDQuFVwma

— Brent Scher (@BrentScher) October 20, 2021

Get this guy a banky, he needs a nappy.

Not a great look when you’re just two weeks out from the actual election, McAwful.

#TurnVARed

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/10/19/terry-mcauliffes-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-campaign-gets-worse-as-he-flips-out-during-interview-scolds-reporter-and-storms-off-watch/



Terry thinks he's running against Donald Trump. He has an anchor called Pedo Joe around his neck and he cannot tapdance nor spend his way from it!
Abrignac Offline
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That’s was sort of…..anticlimactic.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
That’s was sort of…..anticlimactic.



That's the way I feel about the DNC. In this day and age everyone knows their score. Their record cannot be hidden, they yell the loudest at their opponents doing whatever it is they're already doing themselves. A corrupt funhouse mirror.

Terry "The Bag Man" McAuliffe was given the same 20 minute window to get his points across. I know what my ears heard in the 11 minutes he decided to sit and not storm off like he had somewhere to go.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
That's the way I feel about the DNC. In this day and age everyone knows their score. Their record cannot be hidden, they yell the loudest at their opponents doing whatever it is they're already doing themselves. A corrupt funhouse mirror.

Terry "The Bag Man" McAuliffe was given the same 20 minute window to get his points across. I know what my ears heard in the 11 minutes he decided to sit and not storm off like he had somewhere to go.


Didn’t and won’t bother listening to the interview. He’s made his position on the issues quite clear. No reason to sacrifice those 11 minutes which could be put to better use watching grass grow.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Just like Newton's 4th Law of Motion...I owe it to hear what they're saying. You do too.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Just like Newton's 4th Law of Motion...I owe it to hear what they're saying. You do too.


Actually I’ve got better things to do. It’s like taking blood pressure readings every 5 minutes. Once you know the big picture it’s senseless to obsess over it.
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You should try Gavin Newsom’s 4th Law of Motion….,

You will move when I tell you that you can move.
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Abrignac wrote:
Actually I’ve got better things to do. It’s like taking blood pressure readings every 5 minutes. Once you know the big picture it’s senseless to obsess over it.

Dr. Sanchez tells us that “once you realize that nothing matters, the universe is yours”.

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Brewha wrote:
Dr. Sanchez tells us that “once you realize that nothing matters, the universe is yours”.



Metallica tells us:

So close, no matter how far
Couldn't be much more from the heart
Forever trusting who we are
And nothing else matters
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This just in:

NEW YORK—In a stunning reversal of their long-stated reluctance to take it, members of heavy-metal band Twisted Sister announced Monday that, after 24 years of fervent refusal, they are now willing to take it. "I acknowledge that we promised not to take it anymore, but things change. The world is a different place today, and with that in mind, we would like to go on record as saying that, starting right now, we are going to take it," read a statement released by the band's lead singer, Dee Snider. "To clarify, we would still prefer not to take it, but as of now, taking it is an option that we would be open to. That is all." Bassist Mark "the Animal" Mendoza also stated that, in regards to what he wants to do with his life, he no longer solely wants to rock, but would instead prefer doing other things, such as raising a family and working as a claims adjuster in Rye, NY.



So much for philosophy….
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If White Evangelicals Sold Their Souls For Trump, What Does Playing Kamala Harris Ads In Black Churches Mean?


Anti-Trumpers freaked out when the former president posed with a Bible for a photo op, but when Kamala Harris beams into hundreds of churches with a campaign video, they have nothing to say.

Virginia church congregants got a political message from the pulpit on Sunday, with more to come. It isn’t just one congregation but more than 300 churches, and it isn’t just a biblical sermon with a political application but an outright campaign clip telling congregants explicitly which candidate to vote for to accomplish political goals. And it wasn’t from a pastor. It was from the vice president of the United States.

“As you know, this is an important election coming up on Tuesday, Nov. 2, and early voting is already underway. I believe that my friend Terry McAuliffe is the leader Virginia needs at this moment,” Vice President Kamala Harris says in a video to be played in hundreds of black churches across the state. She went on to tout McAuliffe’s record on jobs, health care, education, and “getting things done for the people of Virginia.”

“So early voting has already started, and this is the first year that you can vote on Sunday. So please, vote after today’s service. And if you cannot vote today, make a plan to go vote. … And after you vote, please tell every soul you know that it is so important they vote,” she said, telling listeners how to join McAuliffe’s campaign. The video will reportedly play in numerous churches for the next couple of Sundays until the election.

This video raises a bevy of issues, not the least of which is its apparent violation of federal law for 501(c)(3)s and the spiritual implications of airing a blatantly partisan campaign video thinly veiled in weak religious language in what should be a sacred gathering.

In conversations about politics and religion, however, it’s almost impossible not to flash back to the status quo under the prior presidential administration, when any overlap of Christian values and political activism were condemned “because Trump.” Although it began before the Trump presidency and has continued in his wake, a major theme of the Trump era was a continual drip-drip of articles and arguments about the church’s relationship to the 45th president.

Pundits and other religious and political leaders with a distaste for Donald Trump and his supporters routinely invoked some combination of the words “white evangelicals,” “Trumpism,” and “Christian nationalism” to spit out pseudo-intellectual articles that all had the same basic and lazy message: White evangelicals sold their souls to Trump and destroyed Christianity by conflating Republican politics with religious faithfulness.

It appeared over and over and over, with certain moments during Trump’s presidency and the 2020 campaign drawing out particularly vicious smears of Trump-supporting Christians generally. It emerged in the Never Trump movement when he became the GOP nominee and many faithful Christians decided they would vote for him.

It happened during the Bible photo op outside St. John’s Church near the White House, a story that was lied about relentlessly by the corrupt media then used to smear Trump and his Christian supporters. It happened during the 2020 presidential race when Trump was juxtaposed with self-proclaimed Christians Pete Buttigieg and Joe Biden. And it occurred nonstop after the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol, just to name a few.

This was despite the fact that Trump didn’t closely associate himself with a Christian label. Talk to any number of conservatives who voted for Trump in 2016 or 2020, and they’ll tell you they didn’t elect him for his morals (many, of course, never wanted him to be the GOP nominee). In fact, in 2016, voters, including Republicans, considered Trump to be the “least religious” candidate, according to Pew Research.

Nevertheless, leftists and nominal conservatives concluded that Christian Trump supporters had a “branding problem,” which they said stemmed from conflating a Christian identity with a Republican one.

Now we find ourselves with the current vice president beaming herself into hundreds of black churches to tell congregants which candidate to vote for. Where are all the articles lecturing Americans on the dangers of injecting progressive politics into the pews?

Will the Never Trumpers who spent years decrying a president for his moral failings and the Christians who voted for him have anything to say about Harris’s in-church support for a man who green-lights injecting racist curriculum into schools, lies about it, supports abortion and gender mutilation for minors, and denies parents’ rights? Where’s their righteous indignation now?

The truth is that the left and Never Trumpers’ hangup about Christian Republicans isn’t actually about an overlap of politics and religion. Nor is it about “white evangelicals” destroying the future of the church with their “Christian nationalism.” The anti-Trumpers’ problem with Christian Republicans is that they don’t like our politics and the deeply held religious convictions that inform it.

If their problem were truly a conflation of politics and Christianity, we’d hear a whole lot of outcry right now over Harris’s partisan Sunday morning video. But instead, all we’ve got is crickets and early voting.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/19/if-white-evangelicals-sold-their-souls-for-trump-what-is-playing-political-ads-in-black-churches-doing/


The level of Hypocrisy is astounding...even for the DNC.
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