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Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates.
Brewha Offline
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Misinformation is to blame.


Not that NPR could ever be trusted, but here is what we all knew was going to happen:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate


Does social Darwinism fix stupid?
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Within a species, only potentially. But mother earth fixes herself. Viruses will just get worse as long as overpopulation exists.
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Remember when Kamala Harris said that "If Donald Trump told her to take the vaccine, she wouldn't"?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.
rfenst Offline
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Remember when Kamala Harris said that "If Donald Trump told her to take the vaccine, she wouldn't"?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Yeah, that is relevant and explains Covid rates and outcomes among Republicans too! LOL.
(Yes, s I agree she has a big mouth; and no, she cannot keep her mouth shut rather than make stupid comments like this.)
Upset she's our VP too? Thank Trump.
HockeyDad Offline
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Brewha wrote:
Misinformation is to blame.


Not that NPR could ever be trusted, but here is what we all knew was going to happen:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate


Does social Darwinism fix stupid?



This is glorious information. With all the Republicans dying off the Democratic Central Committee is guaranteed to win all elections and hold supermajorities nationwide. We will soon export all of California’s goodness even more nationwide than we already have.
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It ain't reaching northern Tahoe, Ima gonna build a wall. Moats, big foots, mine fields, machine gun turrets. Patrolled by ground troops with warthogs overhead. Yup, it's gonna be yuge.
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HockeyDad wrote:
This is glorious information. With all the Republicans dying off the Democratic Central Committee is guaranteed to win all elections and hold supermajorities nationwide. We will soon export all of California’s goodness even more nationwide than we already have.


Dare to dream.

Not that I want anyone to die from COVID, but there is a certain poetic justice to this............
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Brewha wrote:
Dare to dream.

Not that I want anyone to die from COVID, but there is a certain poetic justice to this............


This is one of those moments when you realize you’ve lost your humanity.
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rfenst wrote:
Yeah, that is relevant and explains Covid rates and outcomes among Republicans too! LOL.
(Yes, s I agree she has a big mouth; and no, she cannot keep her mouth shut rather than make stupid comments like this.)
Upset she's our VP too? Thank Trump.


I agree. Someone needs to put something in her pie hole and shut her up.
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Speyside2 wrote:
It ain't reaching northern Tahoe, Ima gonna build a wall. Moats, big foots, mine fields, machine gun turrets. Patrolled by ground troops with warthogs overhead. Yup, it's gonna be yuge.


When we Californians put our mind to something, it is just a matter of time. Thanks to our benevolence you may keep north Tahoe for now. Soon we may feel the need to discuss mixed use housing with set asides for lower income and below market rate housing for inclusion and equity purposes.
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Brewha wrote:
Does social Darwinism fix stupid?


No... ironically because of liberal policies.
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Wait...is this BAD news?
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JadeRose wrote:
Wait...is this BAD news?


No.

People with opposite political viewpoints dying is good news.
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HockeyDad wrote:
No.

People with opposite political viewpoints dying is good news.




I know, right?!
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rfenst wrote:
Yeah, that is relevant and explains Covid rates and outcomes among Republicans too! LOL.
(Yes, s I agree she has a big mouth; and no, she cannot keep her mouth shut rather than make stupid comments like this.)
Upset she's our VP too? Thank Trump.


Well, that certainly doesn't explain why California, New York and Connecticut had such high rates previously.

Isn't it entirely possible that, instead of trying to pigeon hole people into R or D, this is actually a case of "half the country has a higher regard for personal liberty" and "half the country wants the Government to take care of them as the Gov't sees fit"?

The mere fact that more republicans fall into the former category rather than the latter speaks louder about about the mindset of the groups and their preferred political candidates than it does about their willingness to capitulate to the desires (of the day) of the Federal Gov't.

Just my two cents. (which, with inflation, is actually of negative value, so I will gladly buy you a beer upon our finding ourselves in the same location to repay you).
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JadeRose wrote:
I know, right?!


Sometimes when they don’t die fast enough the government needs to round them and put them in camps where the process can be accelerated.
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Well, that certainly doesn't explain why California, New York and Connecticut had such high rates previously.

Isn't it entirely possible that, instead of trying to pigeon hole people into R or D, this is actually a case of "half the country has a higher regard for personal liberty" and "half the country wants the Government to take care of them as the Gov't sees fit"?

The mere fact that more republicans fall into the former category rather than the latter speaks louder about about the mindset of the groups and their preferred political candidates than it does about their willingness to capitulate to the desires (of the day) of the Federal Gov't.

Just my two cents. (which, with inflation, is actually of negative value, so I will gladly buy you a beer upon our finding ourselves in the same location to repay you).



CATO ranks California 48th in personal and economic freedoms in U.S.

Hawaii and New York are worse.

We have a mandate that the COVID-19 vaccine is required for children attending school, once the FDA fully approves the shot for the 5-11 and 12-16 age groups. Maybe this can put us to #1. No other state has it.
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If only there was a simple solution to reduce morbidity and mortality. And if it was made free of charge, bonus!


Vast majority of my covid ICU patients are unvaccinated. The few we've had that were, had several things working against them already like organ transplants, active chemotherapy, and other immunosuppressive situations where a vaccine isn't really gonna do chit for them.

I rarely have to work Covid ICU anymore. But we take the overflow. after they've been in for 2 weeks, no longer infectious so they can be moved down to my unit. Then they linger for a month or two before they finally die. It's the same chit every time. Families blame us for not fixing their person, but there's literally nothing we can do. So many times I hear the same thing too: "he/she would never want to be on life support. But we want to do everything" Umm... Shelia... your boy's been on life support for 40 days now. We can stop, or we can transition to a vent facility (fancy nursing home) until he dies. Nothing's going to change the outcome. They always want to keep going. They trust the system when they're sick, but can't trust it for prevention.

I've had them as young as 17. We don't typically take anyone under 18 but if they're too sick to transfer, sometimes we'll take em. I've lost any bit of compassion. When I'm working my 7 night stretch and I have 5-10 deaths during that week, I have nothing left to give. You want to skip out on a shot that can save your life, or significant morbidity, but then come to us to deal with the chit you know you're up against.

I don't get it.
HockeyDad Offline
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danmdevries wrote:
If only there was a simple solution to reduce morbidity and mortality. And if it was made free of charge, bonus!


We do!!! Masks!
bgz Offline
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Dan... some people just rather listen to the one that tells them what they want to hear. Evidence and reason means nothing. Someone has to be on the other side of the bell curve... otherwise it wouldn't be a bell.
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HockeyDad wrote:
Sometimes when they don’t die fast enough the government needs to round them and put them in camps where the process can be accelerated.


Heard about the 2 that Escaped Howard springs?
How scandalous!

Brew, ever considered a move to Australia?

Not that I want to see you go, but you may like it
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HockeyDad wrote:
This is one of those moments when you realize you’ve lost your humanity.

Perhaps the most human thing to do is to show the harsh truth. To highlight the stupidity and it’s consequences.

Saying “no worries, you’ll be fine” would be ….. less than human.

Try to keep up.
RayR Online
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Brew, I hear they are hiring a Commandant for the COVID CONCENTRATION CAMPS in Australia.
Sounds right up your ally.
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danmdevries wrote:
If only there was a simple solution to reduce morbidity and mortality. And if it was made free of charge, bonus!


Vast majority of my covid ICU patients are unvaccinated. The few we've had that were, had several things working against them already like organ transplants, active chemotherapy, and other immunosuppressive situations where a vaccine isn't really gonna do chit for them.

I rarely have to work Covid ICU anymore. But we take the overflow. after they've been in for 2 weeks, no longer infectious so they can be moved down to my unit. Then they linger for a month or two before they finally die. It's the same chit every time. Families blame us for not fixing their person, but there's literally nothing we can do. So many times I hear the same thing too: "he/she would never want to be on life support. But we want to do everything" Umm... Shelia... your boy's been on life support for 40 days now. We can stop, or we can transition to a vent facility (fancy nursing home) until he dies. Nothing's going to change the outcome. They always want to keep going. They trust the system when they're sick, but can't trust it for prevention.

I've had them as young as 17. We don't typically take anyone under 18 but if they're too sick to transfer, sometimes we'll take em. I've lost any bit of compassion. When I'm working my 7 night stretch and I have 5-10 deaths during that week, I have nothing left to give. You want to skip out on a shot that can save your life, or significant morbidity, but then come to us to deal with the chit you know you're up against.

I don't get it.

this needs to be topped. Can't thank you enough for your efforts during all of this chit, both at work and here as well.

people on all sides seek out supporting data and then feel they are just using the facts to form conclusions. it's disingenuous.

I'm going with the stuff you have been living with for a couple of years now.

Speyside2 Offline
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^ Danm straight!
MACS Offline
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Speaking of people searching out the data that they want to see...

This thread is exhibit A.
RayR Online
#27 Posted:
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Whew! I didn't vote for Trump or Biden, so I guess I'm good. Cool

Why do they always leave people like me out of the data? Huh
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Trumps peeps are very immunodeficienct...

And dumb...

Hence,

They catch the covid EASILY.
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danmdevries wrote:
If only there was a simple solution to reduce morbidity and mortality. And if it was made free of charge, bonus!


Vast majority of my covid ICU patients are unvaccinated. The few we've had that were, had several things working against them already like organ transplants, active chemotherapy, and other immunosuppressive situations where a vaccine isn't really gonna do chit for them.

I rarely have to work Covid ICU anymore. But we take the overflow. after they've been in for 2 weeks, no longer infectious so they can be moved down to my unit. Then they linger for a month or two before they finally die. It's the same chit every time. Families blame us for not fixing their person, but there's literally nothing we can do. So many times I hear the same thing too: "he/she would never want to be on life support. But we want to do everything" Umm... Shelia... your boy's been on life support for 40 days now. We can stop, or we can transition to a vent facility (fancy nursing home) until he dies. Nothing's going to change the outcome. They always want to keep going. They trust the system when they're sick, but can't trust it for prevention.

I've had them as young as 17. We don't typically take anyone under 18 but if they're too sick to transfer, sometimes we'll take em. I've lost any bit of compassion. When I'm working my 7 night stretch and I have 5-10 deaths during that week, I have nothing left to give. You want to skip out on a shot that can save your life, or significant morbidity, but then come to us to deal with the chit you know you're up against.

I don't get it.

Speyside2 Offline
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At one time I think California, Illinois, and New York were near or at the top of the list. So this is somewhat a meh to me other than I/we will not travel to certain states due to rate of infection. Though this is based on common sense, not red or blue. Truthfully I/we are tired of rea and blue. Simply put we choose to go with American.
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danmdevries wrote:
If only there was a simple solution to reduce morbidity and mortality. And if it was made free of charge, bonus!


Vast majority of my covid ICU patients are unvaccinated. The few we've had that were, had several things working against them already like organ transplants, active chemotherapy, and other immunosuppressive situations where a vaccine isn't really gonna do chit for them.

I rarely have to work Covid ICU anymore. But we take the overflow. after they've been in for 2 weeks, no longer infectious so they can be moved down to my unit. Then they linger for a month or two before they finally die. It's the same chit every time. Families blame us for not fixing their person, but there's literally nothing we can do. So many times I hear the same thing too: "he/she would never want to be on life support. But we want to do everything" Umm... Shelia... your boy's been on life support for 40 days now. We can stop, or we can transition to a vent facility (fancy nursing home) until he dies. Nothing's going to change the outcome. They always want to keep going. They trust the system when they're sick, but can't trust it for prevention.

I've had them as young as 17. We don't typically take anyone under 18 but if they're too sick to transfer, sometimes we'll take em. I've lost any bit of compassion. When I'm working my 7 night stretch and I have 5-10 deaths during that week, I have nothing left to give. You want to skip out on a shot that can save your life, or significant morbidity, but then come to us to deal with the chit you know you're up against.

I don't get it.



Danm, let me start by saying thanks to you and all your co-workers for all the work you do to help people (covid and non-covid). When I was PoPo, I had a standing rule to give nurses and EMTs significant slack if I ran into them. They might be the ones saving my life the next day.

You said "If only there was a simple solution to reduce morbidity and mortality." That sounds a lot like a therapuetic or a treatment. I think a lot of people were sold a bill-of-good from Fauci et al. that the vaccine would be 90%+ effective so everyone go get it. Well, that was 'slight untruth #243' in this pandemic. The truth matters, and when people keep feeling like they are getting "spun" by those in authority, the level of confidence in that authority (whether what they are saying that time is correct or incorrect) degrades sharply.

The flat honest truth is that after nearly two years of Covid, I have been lied to or had things misrepresented too many times to really have faith in the government (and their medical apparatus) to tell me what is best in regards to Covid. Having said that, I was an early adopter of the vaccine and a booster because I determined my family risks on my own and I decided to get the shots. I am fully in support of people who decide not to get it, understand their hesitation and reluctance and I will forever have lingering fears about the long-term effects of the shots.

There are even healthcare workers refusing to get vaccinated.

If you want to see exhibit "A" in the case against trusting the vaccine, ask yourself why the FDA is trying so hard to drag their feet to release the Pfizer vaccine study info. They are saying it will take 55 years to review and redact the study (350K pages) to cleanse it of proprietary info. I work in document review. This would take 40-50 people a few weeks to complete. There is likely a reason the government does not want us to see the data.
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I remember a time here in California when healthcare workers and first responders were heroes. We put signs in our yards thanking them for their hard work. We cheered them at the end of their shift as they were leaving the hospital. We avoided buying N95 masks even during brush fire season and hand made masks out of old fabric. That was a year ago.

Now we fire them if they don’t get a Covid shot.

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Stogie1020 wrote:
Danm, let me start by saying thanks to you and all your co-workers for all the work you do to help people (covid and non-covid). When I was PoPo, I had a standing rule to give nurses and EMTs significant slack if I ran into them. They might be the ones saving my life the next day.

You said "If only there was a simple solution to reduce morbidity and mortality." That sounds a lot like a therapuetic or a treatment. I think a lot of people were sold a bill-of-good from Fauci et al. that the vaccine would be 90%+ effective so everyone go get it. Well, that was 'slight untruth #243' in this pandemic. The truth matters, and when people keep feeling like they are getting "spun" by those in authority, the level of confidence in that authority (whether what they are saying that time is correct or incorrect) degrades sharply.

The flat honest truth is that after nearly two years of Covid, I have been lied to or had things misrepresented too many times to really have faith in the government (and their medical apparatus) to tell me what is best in regards to Covid. Having said that, I was an early adopter of the vaccine and a booster because I determined my family risks on my own and I decided to get the shots. I am fully in support of people who decide not to get it, understand their hesitation and reluctance and I will forever have lingering fears about the long-term effects of the shots.

There are even healthcare workers refusing to get vaccinated.

If you want to see exhibit "A" in the case against trusting the vaccine, ask yourself why the FDA is trying so hard to drag their feet to release the Pfizer vaccine study info. They are saying it will take 55 years to review and redact the study (350K pages) to cleanse it of proprietary info. I work in document review. This would take 40-50 people a few weeks to complete. There is likely a reason the government does not want us to see the data.

maybe a secret agreement to protect the money-printing formula?
Could go back as far as the original seed/pre-order money?
It's usually the money.
rfenst Offline
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Well, that certainly doesn't explain why California, New York and Connecticut had such high rates previously.

Isn't it entirely possible that, instead of trying to pigeon hole people into R or D, this is actually a case of "half the country has a higher regard for personal liberty" and "half the country wants the Government to take care of them as the Gov't sees fit"?

The mere fact that more republicans fall into the former category rather than the latter speaks louder about about the mindset of the groups and their preferred political candidates than it does about their willingness to capitulate to the desires (of the day) of the Federal Gov't.

Just my two cents. (which, with inflation, is actually of negative value, so I will gladly buy you a beer upon our finding ourselves in the same location to repay you).

Others see it as a higher public health issue (and have Supreme Court precedent on their side). Those that won't take the jab are fine with me. Just stay away from me and stop telling me that I was wrong to get it (this does not apply to you).
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Stogie1020 wrote:
If you want to see exhibit "A" in the case against trusting the vaccine, ask yourself why the FDA is trying so hard to drag their feet to release the Pfizer vaccine study info. They are saying it will take 55 years to review and redact the study (350K pages) to cleanse it of proprietary info. I work in document review. This would take 40-50 people a few weeks to complete. There is likely a reason the government does not want us to see the data.


Take a little bit of a look into this further on the Fox website. Read carefully. They are releasing all of the data in the format they use and store it in as of now, as opposed to the different formats that have been requested. In the legal world, such a request is never ordered. Period. There is a federal statute limiting the release of a certain number of pages per day. Just because somebody requests it in their preferred format, the government or anybody else should not be required to produce anything that does not exist. Should anyone be required to employ/assign 40-50 extra people to a task that the requester can equally create on their own dime, with their own employees and without others bearing the burden. This story has been misreported.
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rfenst wrote:
Others see it as a higher public health issue (and have Supreme Court precedent on their side). Those that won't take the jab are fine with me. Just stay away from me and stop telling me that I was wrong to get it (this does not apply to you).


Once I get my third jab I won’t even want two-jabbers anywhere near me. If one of those one-jabber J&J scum get within 8 feet of me I’m calling the police or the SSG.
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HockeyDad wrote:
Once I get my third jab I won’t even want two-jabbers anywhere near me. If one of those one-jabber J&J scum get within 8 feet of me I’m calling the police or the SSG.

your rights end where theirs begin, which is six feet, not eight, I think
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6 feet is an arbitrary distance, aerosol travels much farther and remains in the air 20 minutes or so.
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Speyside2 wrote:
6 feet is an arbitrary distance, aerosol travels much farther and remains in the air 20 minutes or so.

but his rights are also arbitrary
RayR Online
#40 Posted:
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Better ask the Fauch, he's the god of arbitrariness.
rfenst Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
Once I get my third jab I won’t even want two-jabbers anywhere near me. If one of those one-jabber J&J scum get within 8 feet of me I’m calling the police or the SSG.

I am going to get my fourth and fifth jabs over the next 10 days, even before they exist, because Frank and Drafter are going to come down on their own dime and "take care of things" for me. They have connections.
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rfenst wrote:
I am going to get my fourth and fifth jabs over the next 10 days, even before they exist, because Frank and Drafter are going to come down on their own dime and "take care of things" for me. They have connections.

only if you want we should do that, consigliori.
delta1 Offline
#43 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Trumps peeps are very immunodeficienct...

And dumb...

Hence,

They catch the covid EASILY.



Mr. Jones...I see you've neglected to take your meds for a bit...how's it feel to be lucid?


I don't begrudge those who distrust the vaccines and the science behind covid protocols... they are free to take their chances with their lives and those of their loved ones...I just see the irony and the pain when some of them, or their loved ones, die...their dying declaration; "I/we should have gotten vaccinated"

my loved ones and I have taken precautions in the event we cross paths with those who shun the vaccine...we avoid places where the risk of infection is elevated... being vaccinated allows us to "get back to normal" as much as possible, without too much worry...

I'm worried that our school aged grandchildren are required to mingle daily with people who choose not to get vaccinated, but they need to go to school...those places do have safety protocols in place, but are reliant on those attending to be honest about their health

it's also disheartening that many of the same people who are complaining and outraged about the continued expense and toll of the pandemic, and government and business efforts to safely respond are those who refuse to get vaccinated without awareness that their decision is a contributing factor to prolonging it...

saying the vaccines are untested and dangerous or the pandemic is a hoax or that it is not as harmful as the flu ignores the deaths of nearly 800,000 Americans and 5.26 million people throughout the world...a toll that belies those assertions
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#44 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
your rights end where theirs begin, which is six feet, not eight, I think


Six feet has not been codified by my sewer district, water district, park district, school district, city, county, state, or federal government so I am free to make my own rules. Eight foot it is.
delta1 Offline
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six feet is plenty deep...
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#46 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Six feet has not been codified by my sewer district, water district, park district, school district, city, county, state, or federal government so I am free to make my own rules. Eight foot it is.

Love it.
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Brewha wrote:
Misinformation is to blame.


Not that NPR could ever be trusted, but here is what we all knew was going to happen:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate


Does social Darwinism fix stupid?



Politicizing covid,like so many before you,just makes you look as stupid as them.


You're welcome Moron Jr
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#48 Posted:
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Lefties believing NPR and their stellar reporting have sunk to this?

I went to the link to actually read the story and haven't laughed that hard since TW was posting links with his data about how we're all gonna die from Covid!

Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan

Meanwhile....

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/great-realignment-countless-more-americans-will-be-moving-blue-states-red-states-2022

C'mon down...live free. Don't New York my Florida!

https://youtu.be/Muol4Lh9HX8
drglnc Offline
#49 Posted:
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Well, that certainly doesn't explain why California, New York and Connecticut had such high rates previously.

Isn't it entirely possible that, instead of trying to pigeon hole people into R or D, this is actually a case of "half the country has a higher regard for personal liberty" and "half the country wants the Government to take care of them as the Gov't sees fit"?

The mere fact that more republicans fall into the former category rather than the latter speaks louder about about the mindset of the groups and their preferred political candidates than it does about their willingness to capitulate to the desires (of the day) of the Federal Gov't.

Just my two cents. (which, with inflation, is actually of negative value, so I will gladly buy you a beer upon our finding ourselves in the same location to repay you).



Disposable Face Mask to lessen the chance of contraction and spread - $0.20 Per day
Vaccine to lessen the chance of contraction, spread, and to lessen symptoms if contracted - Free
Willingness to contract and spread a virus with +/- 3.4% death rate and millions of people permanently affected by long term symptoms just to "Own the libs" Priceless...
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drglnc wrote:
Disposable Face Mask to lessen the chance of contraction and spread - $0.20 Per day
Vaccine to lessen the chance of contraction, spread, and to lessen symptoms if contracted - Free
Willingness to contract and spread a virus with +/- 3.4% death rate and millions of people permanently affected by long term symptoms just to "Own the libs" Priceless...


Are you comments directed at Trump supporters or people of color?

Last I heard, the majority of blacks nor hispanics were keen on getting the vaccine.

Anyone drilled down on the left to check these numbers? Off course not.





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