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Is Separation of Church and State Coming to an End?
RMAN4443 Offline
#51 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
And what if I don't want my tax dollars used to teach kids a religion?

Tax dollars should be to teach kids facts and skills.

Like the all important Critical Race Theory??? Brick wall
RayR Offline
#52 Posted:
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Like the all important Critical Race Theory??? Brick wall


Brewha is silly. He thinks tax dollars should be to teach kids facts and skills like CRT indoctrination. He cracks me up.LOL
rfenst Offline
#53 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
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MACS wrote:
^Even people with no kids have to pay. That seems fair, right?

That's what might make the schools in your zone better and will protect you property values- because it is the way we have evolved as a country over the centuries. Could public education be improved? Sure!

Thomas Jefferson, while very bright and critical to the final version of the original Constitution, had no idea what modern society would be like in any way at all. We do and have amended dour Constitution many times since then- to meet the needs of current society.

Amendments were anticipated in the future and were foreseen, which is why the constitution allows for change. I am of the opinion it is an important "living and breathing" roadmap and compact. The rest is up to us.

(And, I don't believe that the vast majority of Americans haven't given don't give two chits about Jefferson any more other than for history, civics and political science courses. (Except RarR and a small minority of people across the U.S.).
Gene363 Offline
#54 Posted:
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From an avowed atheist:

"There is a huge difference between teaching Christianity and teaching Christian values. It's a shame and a mistake that anti religious fanatics have eliminated the teaching of Christian values, or any other values, from public schools."
rfenst Offline
#55 Posted:
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RayR wrote:
My parents were forced too, It was cheaper back then when I went to 4 room elementary schoolhouses in the burbs and The Department of Education was only a leftist wet dream. They were just getting a hankering to pass massive school budget increases and building expensive blocky soulless prison-style buildings. It was off to the races then after the progressive stampede left the barn...it was all for the public good they said.

I'm not childless.

And, I -presume, not for the sake of this post, they went to public schools.

"Ancient" four room elementary schools are in the past for the vast majority of Americans thanks to federal money and mandates about education. The mandates aren't perfect and even sometimes flawed, but still bring us closer to what we need to aspire about education.

I am a 100% product of public school educations. I pretty much paid for my own college and law school expenses (with some family help) and am much better for it. You really think a bunch of taxpayers choosing how their public school tax money will lead to better education in our nation? What about economies of scale and minimum education standards for he good of the country as a whole? Equal education for all is be better with government minimum standards and better economies of scale?

I have lived in Orlando for 40+ years and have never seen a general-charter school for regular people make it.
MACS Offline
#56 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
who paid for the schools that today's childless adults attended as kids, Shawn?


Same sorry jackalopes paying for it now, I suppose... Back in the day, at least in most schools, they were getting much more bang for the buck. Today? Not so much. Like I said, 3rd world countries are doing a lot better and paying their teachers a lot less.

And their not learning sh*t like their country was founded by racists... (CRT).
Brewha Offline
#57 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
I have zero aversion to religious schools. I think they are a good thing for those families who want them.

My beef is that I do not want public dollars to be paying for them or taken away from the common public fund needed for the very public schools attended by such a vast majority of people.

+1
frankj1 Offline
#58 Posted:
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RayR wrote:
My parents were forced too, It was cheaper back then when I went to 4 room elementary schoolhouses in the burbs and The Department of Education was only a leftist wet dream. They were just getting a hankering to pass massive school budget increases and building expensive blocky soulless prison-style buildings. It was off to the races then after the progressive stampede left the barn...it was all for the public good they said.

I'm not childless.

you're also not Shawn.
Brewha Offline
#59 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
How can you hate the First Church of Appliantology?!!!

I’m all for the separation of the religion of progressivism and state.

Maybe he doesn’t speak German….
Brewha Offline
#60 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
you're also not Shawn.

Could be how he self identifies…
Brewha Offline
#61 Posted:
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Like the all important Critical Race Theory??? Brick wall

CRT is a college study I believe…

Besides, our nation has been racist as fook.
frankj1 Offline
#62 Posted:
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I'd bet that most posters haven't stepped inside a school or monitored a class in 30 years.
No idea what the mix of students is now as society has changed so much since we were students.

And I agree with pretty much everything Robert has said...would add that the time out of school buildings during the pandemic SHOULD allow for reimagining public school education much as it has for the accepted ways business had always been conducted.
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#63 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
you're also not Shawn.

That’s not to say that he wouldn’t like a little bit of Shawn in him…
RMAN4443 Offline
#64 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
CRT is a college study I believe…

Besides, our nation has been racist as fook.

If you say it 3 times and click your heels together, it still won't be trueNot talking
rfenst Offline
#65 Posted:
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Sometimes, being naivete is a good thing.
RMAN4443 Offline
#66 Posted:
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CRT is being preached in middle school, and yes there has been/is racism in this country.
the most recent case being the Jussie Smollet hate crime hoax...
I'm not as "naive", as I am jaded...
rfenst Offline
#67 Posted:
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RMAN4443 wrote:
CRT is being preached in middle school, and yes there has been/is racism in this country.
the most recent case being the Jussie Smollet hate crime hoax...
I'm not as "naive", as I am jaded...

Jessie Smollet is liar and must be mentally ill (not an excuse for the wrong he did). He didn't enslave blacks, pummel native Americans, attack Jews, Catholics and other religions, practically enslave Chinese people, intern Japanese-Americans in prison camps, etc.' etc. He is a stupid one-off who deserves to go to prison. The reason the noose around his neck was so bothering before he was busted, is that we come from a recent history that includes harassing gay people and lynching black people, which we now should abhor. If we don't teach the past, we are doomed to repeat it. Never forget.
MACS Offline
#68 Posted:
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Yes, we are so racist many folks from other countries are still at our borders hoping to get in.

Guess they want their share of the racist dream, right?

Ever wonder what people from Africa think? Why they want to come here?

Indians (from India) are brown, right? They seem to do okay. Asians seem to do okay. I dunno, man... I don't think we're racist at all.
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#69 Posted:
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All the good ones do.


FYI I was in a classroom last week.

Also FYI, until PERS is reformed and the incestuous relationship relationship between public unions and those “negotiating” on Johnny-Q taxpayers behalf the deification of teachers needs to stop. There’s a majority of great teachers (my family included) but this has to stop before something drastic happens.
RMAN4443 Offline
#70 Posted:
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"Everyday People"

Sometimes I'm right and I can be wrong
My own beliefs are in my song
The butcher, the banker, the drummer and then
Makes no difference what group I'm in
I am everyday people, yeah, yeah

There is a blue one
Who can't accept the green one
For living with a fat one
Trying to be a skinny one
Different strokes
For different folks

And so on and so on
And scooby dooby dooby
Oh sha sha
We got to live together

I am no better and neither are you
We are the same, whatever we do
You love me, you hate me, you know me and then
You can't figure out the bag I'm in
I am everyday people, yeah yeah


There is a long hair
That doesn't like the short hair
For being such a rich one
That will not help the poor one
Different strokes
For different folks

And so on and so on
And scooby dooby dooby
Oh sha sha
We got to live together

There is a yellow one
That won't accept the black one
That won't accept the red one
That won't accept the white one
Different strokes
For different folks

And so on and so on
And scooby dooby dooby
Oh sha sha
I am everyday people
Brewha Offline
#71 Posted:
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In Texas Doobys are still a crime….Scooby or not…
Brewha Offline
#72 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Yes, we are so racist many folks from other countries are still at our borders hoping to get in.

Guess they want their share of the racist dream, right?

Ever wonder what people from Africa think? Why they want to come here?

Indians (from India) are brown, right? They seem to do okay. Asians seem to do okay. I dunno, man... I don't think we're racist at all.

So…..is CRT…..stupid?

Asking for a friend.
RMAN4443 Offline
#73 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
In Texas Doobys are still a crime….Scooby or not…

Doobys have been a crime in lots of places until recent years...never really stopped them
from being enjoyed by millions...
RayR Offline
#74 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
And, I -presume, not for the sake of this post, they went to public schools.

"Ancient" four room elementary schools are in the past for the vast majority of Americans thanks to federal money and mandates about education. The mandates aren't perfect and even sometimes flawed, but still bring us closer to what we need to aspire about education.

I am a 100% product of public school educations. I pretty much paid for my own college and law school expenses (with some family help) and am much better for it. You really think a bunch of taxpayers choosing how their public school tax money will lead to better education in our nation? What about economies of scale and minimum education standards for he good of the country as a whole? Equal education for all is be better with government minimum standards and better economies of scale?

I have lived in Orlando for 40+ years and have never seen a general-charter school for regular people make it.


Just for the record...I'm not Shawn, at least not today.

No "they", I only have one kid and she never attended a public skool although I have been forced to fund your compulsory unholy alliance of state and school all along.

Oh! So now you hate neighborhood four room elementary schools? I guess we need bigger and bigger schools to churn out more compliant drones fitting some arbitrary minimum education standards set by faceless bureaucrats, typically leftists in some far-off capitol city? And now I should thank the "federal money and mandates about education"? You gotta be kidding!

There is no constitutional authority for the general government to be involved in education funding and education dicktates unless you are one of those Progressives who tend to invoke the general welfare clause to justify all kinds of unconstitutional federal power grabs, from national healthcare to education, although no amendment was ever ratified by the states to give any such power to the general government.

"economies of scale"? Public education is not capitalism in any way unless you think those public education factories churn out for the consumer higher quality products at increasing lower prices. Nothing can be further from the truth.

The Origins of the Public School
https://fee.org/articles/the-origins-of-the-public-school/

Smooth light Offline
#75 Posted:
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I agree show me where the feds control's, education,their economy,energy,the price of goods and the air we breath.

We don't need a many state nanny.
RayR Offline
#76 Posted:
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One thing Reagan said was a basic economic truth that was on point, “If you want more of something, subsidize it; if you want less of something, tax it.”

"More of something" translates into higher costs as more players rush to feed on the easy money at the government trough.
Schools, in this case, have less incentive to economize their operations, improve quality and compete for customers on price since they are usually getting direct subsidies and students are getting easy loans guaranteed by the tax serfs if they default. Schools will just want more and more bodies since more bodies mean more money.
Government intervention in any market does not create the correct incentives and benefits as a capitalistic system does at all.
Brewha Offline
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Gene363 wrote:
From an avowed atheist:

"There is a huge difference between teaching Christianity and teaching Christian values. It's a shame and a mistake that anti religious fanatics have eliminated the teaching of Christian values, or any other values, from public schools."

“Christian values” are a bunch of crap. It’s just Christians usurping classic values, like not stealing, and suggesting they are uniquely Christian. They are not.

Now “loving Jesus” is a true Christian value. And no, I don’t think it should be in public school teaching any more than teaching to “praise Allah” , or follow the FSM.




Of course you have highlighted the clear and present danger of anti religious fanatics. Why over half of the broadcast stations on TV are run by fanatics. Yeah, them militant atheists are just everywhere….
RayR Offline
#78 Posted:
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Lying miserable authoritarian hoisted on her own petard!

Harvard Prof’s Strange Claims about Homeschoolers Debunked—by Harvard’s Own Research

Harvard Law School Professor Elizabeth Bartholet has been a major opponent of homeschool education in recent years. But do her claims withstand scrutiny?

Friday, December 3, 2021
Andrew Reder

Quote:
Harvard Law School Professor Elizabeth Bartholet has been a major opponent of homeschool education in recent years. In an interview with the Harvard Gazette last year, Bartholet outlandishly claimed that homeschooling is a threat to our children’s well-being and should be banned. Among other things, she asserted that homeschoolers are "socially awkward" and "in danger of maltreatment." As a recent homeschooling graduate who is currently studying business at Northwood University, I feel it my duty to provide a rebuttal of Bartholet’s allegations.

n an 80-page article published in the Arizona Law Review, Bartholet portrays homeschooling parents as tyrants who deliberately remove their children from society in order to do with them as they please. She argues that government needs to regulate or even outright ban homeschooling so it can keep regular tabs on children’s family life.

More...

https://fee.org/articles/harvard-prof-s-strange-claims-about-homeschoolers-debunked-by-harvard-s-own-research/




bgz Offline
#79 Posted:
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RayR wrote:
Just for the record...I'm not Shawn, at least not today.

No "they", I only have one kid and she never attended a public skool although I have been forced to fund your compulsory unholy alliance of state and school all along.

Oh! So now you hate neighborhood four room elementary schools? I guess we need bigger and bigger schools to churn out more compliant drones fitting some arbitrary minimum education standards set by faceless bureaucrats, typically leftists in some far-off capitol city? And now I should thank the "federal money and mandates about education"? You gotta be kidding!

There is no constitutional authority for the general government to be involved in education funding and education dicktates unless you are one of those Progressives who tend to invoke the general welfare clause to justify all kinds of unconstitutional federal power grabs, from national healthcare to education, although no amendment was ever ratified by the states to give any such power to the general government.

"economies of scale"? Public education is not capitalism in any way unless you think those public education factories churn out for the consumer higher quality products at increasing lower prices. Nothing can be further from the truth.

The Origins of the Public School
https://fee.org/articles/the-origins-of-the-public-school/



It sounds to me like you're advocating for a stupid population. You're almost saying that because your kid didn't participate in the system, then no kid should participate in the system and be capped at the maximal education level of their dumb azz parents (yes, most parents are dumb... yes, the school with a standard system will provide a better education on average than a dumb azz parent... again, because most parents are dumb).

Listen... I don't care if education is not diktated by the constitution... I don't care, kids need to learn, they need to be socialized, otherwise our country would be nothing but a bunch of sociopathic cave dwellers clutching their guns saying don't tread on me... but maybe that's what you want.

Even if I didn't have kids, I would vote to fund education as long as it was guaranteed to go to education. Because education is important... I mean without it, the rest of the world will kick our azzes in innovation... we'll have to import talent because Americans are too stupid on average, we'll use it as an excuse to use offshore talent... oh wait... looks like we're already doing that... and your solution is to make the situation worse?

I think you would prefer our country to be a tribal based system where we can easily get conquered by countries who don't have their head up their azz... because they chose to be not Ray... everyone will wear camo, have giant beards, and put flags on their vehicles (see the resemblance to like minded thinkers in Islamic countries).

Let's go back to stick and stones and spears and stuff... f*ck bullets, too much tech, too much brain hurt... throw rocks at tanks, we shall overcome through stupidity!!!
RayR Offline
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So da kids need to be socialized with socialism? Is that the gist of what yer saying? I like your imagery building there, very creative Ben.
The COMMIES agree with you, they say overturning the monopoly of government-run schools would be a death by a thousand cuts to THE REVOUTION..


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#81 Posted:
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Yes, it is coming to an end.

House of Representatives Votes to Eradicate Blasphemy Against Islam



The House of Representatives has passed a bill that seeks to eradicate blasphemy against Islam. The bill, H.R. 5665, is truly remarkable as it amounts to Congress making a law respecting the establishment of Islam and reducing the United States government into a tool of the world’s ayatollahs.

The actual text of the bill not only seeks to eradicate blasphemy against Islam around the world – and solely against Islam at that – but even requires the federal government to reorganize some portions of the State Department along the lines of an Islamic religious institution which will be responsible for interpreting the Quran. For example, the text of the bill mandates that “[t]he Secretary of State shall establish within the Department of State an Office” and the “purpose” of the office is described as “[m]onitoring and combating acts of Islamophobia and Islamophobic incitement that occur in foreign countries.” That is, the State Department is required to create an office that is a cross between George Orwell’s Big Brother and the Taliban.

The word ‘combat’ in the text of the law is problematic but fits in perfectly with the concept of waging violent jihad against the countries deemed to have committed blasphemy against Islam. Almost every dictionary defines the word primarily as an action pertaining to war. While the internet firm Google’s dictionary defines 'combat’ as “fighting between armed forces,” Cambridge Dictionary defines the word as “a fight, especially during a war.” According to Collins Dictionary, “combat is fighting that takes place in a war.” This is no hyperbole as the State Department has a long history of supporting Islamic terrorists such as Osama bin Laden, the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and ISIS. Former Assistant Secretary of State, Robin Raphel, ran her office as though it were an outpost of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and she lost her security clearance when she was investigated for counterintelligence activities. Little wonder then that Newt Gingrich, the former Speaker of the House, used the term “Rogue State Department” and President Donald Trump described the State Department as the “Deep State Department.”

The blasphemy law further requires the newly created office to be headed by a person appointed by the “President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate” and the person to be responsible for the “assessment and description of the nature and extent of acts of Islamophobia and Islamophobic incitement” and for determining if any utterances constitute “instances of propaganda” or “promote racial hatred or incite acts of violence against Muslim people.” Since the word ‘Islamophobia’ is not defined in the text of the legislation and words such as ‘hatred’ and ‘propaganda’ are subjective, the head of the newly created office will be ultimately responsible for interpreting the Quran and issuing legal opinions on whether statements made around the world amount to hatred or anti-Islamic propaganda under such interpretation.

In Islam, the person who interprets the Quran and issues legal opinions or edicts in the manner described by the new law is the Grand Mufti, and the opinions and edicts themselves are known as fatwas. Many of us are old enough to recall one of the most spine-chilling and famous fatwas issued by Ayatollah Khomeini against the author Salman Rushdie for committing blasphemy against Islam by writing his book, The Satanic Verses. Just as in the case of Ayatollah Khomeini, the Grand Mufti of the State Department too will have unlimited powers without any checks and balances, and neither the authority of the Mufti nor any fatwa issued by him can ever be challenged in a court of law. This is because the State Department’s opinions will be part of an annual report that is mandated by the International Religious Freedom Act of 1998 which “prohibits judicial review” of “agency actions taken under this Act.”

That kind of unlimited power might appear unconstitutional just as the blasphemy law along with its requirement that the State Department police the world and provide Halal certificates for free speech may appear unconstitutional, but those objections would not matter to dishonest judges. The courts most likely would rule that anyone who has filed a lawsuit challenging this law lacks standing as the law applies only to those outside the country and the person filing the lawsuit has not faced any injury. Therefore, even if the entire federal government were transformed into one big Islamic outfit with the sole purpose of using American resources to propagate Islam, American citizens can do nothing about it.

The entire purpose of the law, then, is to use the resources of the US government to arm-twist every other country into becoming a Sharia-compliant state. Ironically, the State Department would be responsible for squelching the freedom of expression in other countries and then publishing reports that complain about the lack of freedom of expression in those same countries!

The blasphemy bill came into existence when it was sponsored by the Somalia-born Congresswoman Ilhan Omar (to be fair to her, she is most likely nothing more than a pawn of the State Department who did what she was told) after the Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan (who sparked off the deadly Islamic riots in multiple countries in 2005 by accusing the US of flushing the Quran down the toilet in Guantanamo Bay) demanded that the US and other western nations pass such a law to protect the medieval-era barbarism perpetrated by Islamic countries from scrutiny and criticism. This of course makes perfect sense because both Somalia and the Islamic Republic of Pakistan are shining examples of countries that can teach the world about liberty, democracy, freedom of religion, and freedom of expression. After all, according to the Pakistani Constitution, “In the name of Allah, the most beneficent, the most merciful… the principles of democracy, freedom, equality, tolerance and social justice as enunciated by Islam shall be fully observed.”

The Pakistani Constitution goes on to inform us that “Islam shall be the State religion of Pakistan” (Article 2), that “there shall be freedom of the press, subject to any reasonable restrictions imposed by law in the interest of the glory of Islam” (Article 19), that “the State shall endeavour, as respects the Muslims of Pakistan to make the teaching of the Holy Quran and Islamiat compulsory” (Article 31-2), and that the qualifications to be a member of the Parliament require a person to be someone who follows the “Islamic injunction” and who “has adequate knowledge of Islamic teachings and practices obligatory duties prescribed by Islam as well as abstains from major sins” (Article 62). There is also a section on the “Federal Shariat Court.” And so it goes. On and on about Islam, the Quran, Sunnah, the Prophet, Allah, Mullah, Ulema, mosques, Arabic language, and many such topics that would be of great interest to the Taliban-type people.

For its part, the Somali Constitution states that “Islam is the religion of the State” (Article 2-1), “no religion other than Islam can be propagated in the country” (Article 2-2), “no law which is not compliant with the general principles of Shari'ah can be enacted” (Article 2-3), and “the teaching of Islam shall be compulsory for pupils in both public and private schools (Article 30-8). Strangely, Ilhan Omar herself would have been punished in Somalia for her adultery by being stoned to death as the country follows the Islamic law on this matter, but she now pushes for the advancement of Islam in America.

A simple way to enhance the reputation of Islam would be to stop beheading people, murdering women by throwing rocks at them, sending out throat-cutters and homicide bombers to kill the infidels, converting children into improvised explosive devices, and indulging in ridiculous actions such as getting beard-inspectors to run around measuring the lengths of beards of men in order to terrorize them into conforming with the Quran. Instead of taking steps to reform the Islamic world, Ilhan Omar and the supporters of this new law want the world to endorse and embrace all the cruel actions of the Islamic countries. However, by pushing for this law and appealing to America to save the reputation of Islam, they have inadvertently ended up implying another message – that Allah is unable to save the reputation of Islam and America is a greater power than Allah.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/12/house_of_representatives_votes_to_eradicate_blasphemy_against_islam_.html#.YcrYMphkSZI.twitter
RayR Offline
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I'm pro-blasphemy. The Constitution guarantees me the right to commit blasphemy. I commit blasphemy all the time as I blaspheme the state religion of Progressivism.
This bill, H.R. 5665 is an attempt to unconstitutionally enshrine arbitrary anti-blasphemy powers into the state religion of Progressivism.
May God damn them all to hell.
delta1 Offline
#83 Posted:
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calling people terrorists solely because of their religion is contrary to American values...we are descending back to the days of Joe McCarthy...

only it's more dangerous now because we have accepted and normalized hatred and violence against other Americans with whom you disagree...
Speyside2 Offline
#84 Posted:
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This has no chance. SCOTUS will deem it unconstitutional as they should. Plus no way this passes the Senate. This is just about Democrats loosing more seats in the mid term. Constitutionally we have the right to freedom of religion no more, no less.
Speyside2 Offline
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Besides, the words of the prophets are written on the bathroom walls.
Brewha Offline
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Subway walls….

And tenement halls.




Of course you may have different prophets.
Brewha Offline
#87 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
calling people terrorists solely because of their religion is contrary to American values...we are descending back to the days of Joe McCarthy...

only it's more dangerous now because we have accepted and normalized hatred and violence against other Americans with whom you disagree...

+1
RayR Offline
#88 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
calling people terrorists solely because of their religion is contrary to American values...we are descending back to the days of Joe McCarthy...

only it's more dangerous now because we have accepted and normalized hatred and violence against other Americans with whom you disagree...


You can't keep using Joe McCarthy as a villain. He was more right about the infiltration of communists in America than he even knew. I know, my statement is blasphemy according to the state religion of Progressivism.
frankj1 Offline
#89 Posted:
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McCarthy, huh?
I shouldn't be surprised.
Speyside2 Offline
#90 Posted:
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Well, Charlie McCarthy was a great puppet.
frankj1 Offline
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Speyside2 wrote:
Well, Charlie McCarthy was a great puppet.

aka a dummy
Brewha Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
aka a dummy

Not too dumb. He exploited American fear and hate.

Not too unlike some of our contemporaries.
Speyside2 Offline
#93 Posted:
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Freudian slip.
Brewha Offline
#94 Posted:
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Let’s Go Darwin!
Speyside2 Offline
#95 Posted:
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That ship has already sailed.
frankj1 Offline
#96 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Not too dumb. He exploited American fear and hate.

Not too unlike some of our contemporaries.

Charlie McCarthy, not Joe!
Ya dummy.
bgz Offline
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RayR wrote:
So da kids need to be socialized with socialism? Is that the gist of what yer saying? I like your imagery building there, very creative Ben.
The COMMIES agree with you, they say overturning the monopoly of government-run schools would be a death by a thousand cuts to THE REVOUTION..




Sure... socialized... socialism... yes, totally mean the same thing (been a while since I gave you a reminder).

Be gone with you basement dweller.
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#98 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
Sure... socialized... socialism... yes, totally mean the same thing (been a while since I gave you a reminder).

Be gone with you basement dweller.

he's got a kid at home...
bgz Offline
#99 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
he's got a kid at home...


Are those mutually exclusive?
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So he keeps his kid on the basement?
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